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My first pair of studio monitors, need advice for right buy

post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 
Hi all, i am a fan of this forums, i read it every day but finally i needed to register in order to post my doubts and receive some help.
I'll try to be quickly for not boring you.

I am from Argentina and in my country the things are very expensive.
I am an audio lover, and have a good ear. I listen all kind and type of music absolutely ALL.
I love the sound of studio monitors and flat or similar detailed sound(i want only good sound quality and detail and no fatiguing), i don't like too much the hi-fi equipment, and in my country is VERY VERY expensive, something good is minimum u$s 2000.- too much for me. With u$s 1000 i can't buy anything good in hi-fi speakers.


Right now i listen music in a Sony MDR 7506, i love them and with a pair of cheap speakers "Edifier R1900T3" the woofer is of 5" so i can't get a good bass response in some tracks, and they aren't so good in sound quality because they are cheap but for the price is ok(u$s 180). I want a pair of studio monitors to place in my desktop to everyday listening music, i don't want to produce or mix anything and i want a buy for years and years, it's a critical inversion for me.

My room isn't too big(4m x 4.5m) but in a future i am going to live to another house and may be i will have another room. I place the speakers on a desktop which is always located near the wall so may be i must choose a studio monitors with bass reflex on the front instead of rear?¿

In my country is very hard to listen and try these kind of speakers, i only could try the RP5G2, RP6G2 and VXT4.
Firstly i wanted to pay max u$s 600 but if there is too much difference between studio monitors i can go up to u$s 1000 or u$s 1200 max. but only if it's worth it...
In my country i saw these monitors with they respective prices:

Mackie MR5 u$s 750 - Mackie MR8 u$s 1000
KRK RP5G2 u$s 550 - KRK RP8G2 u$s 770
Yamaha HS50M u$s 679 - Yamaha HS80M u$s 1125
Samson Rubicon R5A u$s 650 - Samson Rubicon R8A u$s 925
Behringer B3031A u$s 912
KRK VXT6 u$s 1150
KRK VXT 4 u$s 800 and in a future i can add a subwoofer KRK 10S u$s 650

Adam A7, Dynaudio BM5A and Mackie HR8240MKII u$s 2000 aprox, so they are impossible for me, i know they are the best !

I liked the RP5G2 but i liked a lot more the VXT4 but i am worried with the rms power output(a bit low) and with the bass response, but in a future i can add a sub.(But it's aprox the double of the price of RP5G2 for example).
The other models i can't listen them.

Thanks and sory for my english, isn't perfect.
Regards.
post #2 of 15
look hard at the JBL LSR line of monitors.
priced in several categories.
post #3 of 15
post #4 of 15
Thread Starter 
Hey thanks for reply

the JBL LSR series are too much expensive in my country
and genelec idem... u$s 1400+
post #5 of 15
you might be able to get a pair of Aurum Cantus for not too much
post #6 of 15
I always liked the Mackies. Would echo the JBL suggestion
post #7 of 15
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Originally Posted by nazanone View Post

Hey thanks for reply

the JBL LSR series are too much expensive in my country
and genelec idem... u$s 1400+

how much are JBL LSR 2328P speakers?
post #8 of 15
Thread Starter 
u$s 1850
post #9 of 15
For your application, stereo/no sub/near-field/desktop, I'd strongly suggest an 8" two way. Anything less than an 8" LF driver will most likely not be satisfying enough with regard to the lower octaves. In my experience, I've found an that generally anything smaller than an 8" LF driver in a near-field application, just doesn't have the bottom end characteristics to convey the proper weight of the recording.

So, 8" two ways....Mackie comes to mind first. They're widely used and generally have a great reputation. They may be a little too expensive for you. Behringer makes several 8" two way, and they are quite affordable. Their passive, dome tweeter version is under $200 a pair. Their active versions with the dome tweeter are under $350 a pair. Their 8" two way ribbon tweeter version, which I've never heard but I'm told it's very, very nice, can be had around $500 pair.

The JBL LSR2328P, ans active 8" two way, around $300 each should be even better. JBLs products right now are truly fantastic. Their RD work is really putting out the effort, and it's showing. Also, the revised, new 8" Mackies, are around $1300/pair.

If I were you, I'd try to listen to the difference between the JBL and Behringer models. Or, find one of these options that one of us has listed, and audition them. Bring material you're familiar with and listen near-field, desktop style.

Good luck
post #10 of 15
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Originally Posted by FOH View Post

For your application, stereo/no sub/near-field/desktop, I'd strongly suggest an 8" two way. Anything less than an 8" LF driver will most likely not be satisfying enough with regard to the lower octaves. In my experience, I've found an that generally anything smaller than an 8" LF driver in a near-field application, just doesn't have the bottom end characteristics to convey the proper weight of the recording.

So, 8" two ways....Mackie comes to mind first. They're widely used and generally have a great reputation. They may be a little too expensive for you. Behringer makes several 8" two way, and they are quite affordable. Their passive, dome tweeter version is under $200 a pair. Their active versions with the dome tweeter are under $350 a pair. Their 8" two way ribbon tweeter version, which I've never heard but I'm told it's very, very nice, can be had around $500 pair.

The JBL LSR2328P, ans active 8" two way, around $300 each should be even better. JBLs products right now are truly fantastic. Their RD work is really putting out the effort, and it's showing. Also, the revised, new 8" Mackies, are around $1300/pair.

If I were you, I'd try to listen to the difference between the JBL and Behringer models. Or, find one of these options that one of us has listed, and audition them. Bring material you're familiar with and listen near-field, desktop style.

Good luck


Speaking of 8 inchers, if you don't mind buying used, you could look for a pair of the Event 20/20 powered speakers. I still have the passive ones for my now torn apart studio. They're very good sounding, and reviews I've read suggest the powered versions were even better. Should be lots cheaper than even the Behringer, but you'd be buying used. I'd guess them to be better than the Behringers (but I haven't heard the current crop) and perhaps less accurate than either the JBLs or the Mackies . . . . THey may be mildly recessed in the presence/sibilance region (a sound I happen to be attracted to).
post #11 of 15
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Originally Posted by nazanone View Post

I liked the RP5G2 but i liked a lot more the VXT4 but i am worried with the rms power output(a bit low) and with the bass response, but in a future i can add a sub.(But it's aprox the double of the price of RP5G2 for example).

The rms power output is an irrelevant figure because it doesn't take into account the sensitivity of the speakers. If you know db at 1W at 1m, then you can combine with the power output to know how loud it will get.
In a small room, I don't know why you are worried but you should try to work out the numbers by comparing to what you have at the moment.

I have the RP5G2 and like them but I find there's an audible noise floor, and it really needs balanced input. I end up turning down classical music about -20db and non-classical -30db, so they are a bit overpowered for me.
post #12 of 15
Thread Starter 
thanks guys

finally my room is 2.5meters x 2.8 meters lol... too small

so a 8" speaker is an over kill

i discarded the yamahas
so may be, the VXT are the best option... any more opinions?
in a future i can get a sub if i change of home to a bigger room.

thanks!
post #13 of 15
Thread Starter 
OK finally i made a decision so i need our opinion in order to reach it.
The last advice please .

I discarded all monitors except KRKs because they aren't overpriced in my country like the yamaha or mackie for example. They are in a very very good price, so:
I have three options.

1)Get a pair of KRK RP5G2 for u$s 550 and later add a sub when i can treat my room or change the house
2)Get a pair or KRK RP8G2 for u$s 770
3)If is worth it, i can go with VXT4 u$s 800 and later add a sub, but a lot of more money than the other options, a sub is about u$s 650 so the total is u$s 1450, the same price of Dynaudio BM5A for example. For u$s 2000 i have Mackie HR828MKII or Adam A7X but it's a LOT OF MONEY and don't have the bass extension of the other options. Too much so discarded.

So, what is the best option? Shoul i go with RP5G2 and later add the KRK 10" sub. Go with 8" with no sub, or paid more money for VXT4(more quality) and later add a sub?¿
post #14 of 15
8", no sub, rock on
post #15 of 15
Thread Starter 
OK, after about a month of reading a lot of forums and reviews in two weeks i'll buy a pair of KRK VXT4 and 10s Subwoofer.

I considered that the VXT4 is superior than the entry level monitors(like Yamaha HS Series, KRK Rokits, Mackie MRs, Samson Rubicons, Behringers, M Audio, etc)

And is good enough like the most popular and greatest monitors(like adam a7, dynaudio bm5a, genelec 8030). In my country these monitors are u$s 2000 a pair, and the VXT4 is u$s 800 the pair, so is a BIG difference and isn't worth.

Plus i can add the subwoofer(u$s 700) to cover the low frequencies that these monitors can't cover, especially the VXT4.

Plus the smaller woofer can cover better the mid frequencies than the 6" or 8" woofers.

I am going to use the speakers as nearfields in my desktop sitting on my chair for listening music, and sometimes to watch some movies at about 2 meters of distance. So the RMS power is enough(i think).

I am right in my conclusion? and thanks to all, very very useful all opinions,

Regards and thanks again!!
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