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Originally Posted by ratpacker View Post

Nolan's Batman seems to occupy a real world while still maintaining the fantasy element inherent in superhero movies but still making it feel somewhat realistic. For me, Burton's movies are true to Burton's idea of Batman, and Nolan's are true to the devotes of Batmans idea of Batman. I hope that makes sense.

Makes perfect sense. But I think a previous poster nailed it regarding the more gothic tone of Burton's film. Still, there is one thing I find lacking in ALL the live-action Bat-films...Batman is so static! We never see him leaping or swinging from building to building. Being pulled up by grappling hooks, yes.
Gliding, yes. Standing around, yes. When the first Burton movie came out, I attributed it to a lack of budget. But then Sam Raimi had Darkman do all the things I'd have liked to see Batman doing...on a fraction of the budget! Note to Mr. Nolan: if Batman is standing atop a skyscraper in the Windy City, shouldn't his cape be billowing out? At least have some of that!
post #122 of 1562
I know it's easy to associate Tim Burton with the term gothic, but I'm really not sure Batman (89) has goth written all over it. Just because it has a somewhat dark tone doesn't make it gothic. Corpse Bride, Sweeney Todd, among others, yes, but not Batman. The Wolfman with Del Toro, which is a rather underrated movie imo, at least the director's cut) is a much more gothic film. I think Nolan's Batman universe is darker than Burton's, yet it's hardly gothic. Anyways this is pobably another discussion... Thinking of sidekicks, I'm just glad Nolan refused to include Robin in his Batmans, but I hope the apparition of Catwoman, while not really a sidekick, won't ruin it.
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I know it's easy to associate Tim Burton with the term gothic, but I'm really not sure Batman (89) has goth written all over it. Just because it has a somewhat dark tone doesn't make it gothic. Corpse Bride, Sweeney Todd, among others, yes, but not Batman. The Wolfman with Del Toro, which is a rather underrated movie imo, at least the director's cut) is a much more gothic film. I think Nolan's Batman universe is darker than Burton's, yet it's hardly gothic. Anyways this is pobably another discussion... Thinking of sidekicks, I'm just glad Nolan refused to include Robin in his Batmans, but I hope the apparition of Catwoman, while not really a sidekick, won't ruin it.

What about that skyscraper-high cathedral with the massive doors? I thought the film had a definite gothic (not Goth!) look to it. Of course, one might make the argument that SLEEPY HOLLOW isn't really gothic because the windmill apparently had dynamite in it! :-)

As for Catwoman...well, I trust Nolan. But any subsequent directors, I'm not so sure.

P.S. Definitely agree with you about the DC of WOLFMAN being underrated. I found it quite entertaining and great to look at..
post #124 of 1562
Speaking of gothic, I've been wanting a movie made of Gotham By Gaslight ever since the comic came out back in 1989.
post #125 of 1562
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I don't know about all that... Serious and dark, sure. Deep thinking may be pushing it.
+1 ha ha ha ha ha
post #126 of 1562
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Matthew Modine has been cast as a bad guy called Nixon. I haven't heard anything from this actor in eons:


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A few more details about who Matthew Modine is playing in The Dark Knight Rises have reportedly emerged.

Showbiz 411 columnist Roger Friedman writes: "Matthew Modine is about to start filming key scenes in the new Batman movie. I'm told that Modine –whose character's name has been reported as Nixon– is playing an appropriate character for his name. 'He's a politician and a key villain,' says a source. This does sound like director Chris Nolan is creating an homage to another Nixon we knew long ago. At least Modine is getting to shoot his scenes in a safe studio in London."

It should be noted that if Modine's character is a politician named Nixon, it wouldn't be the first Gotham City pol to share a name with a well-known real-life one. The viral sites for The Dark Knight chronicled how candidate Harvey Dent defeated Gotham D.A. Roger Garcetti; Gil Garcetti served as Los Angeles' District Attorney from 1992-2000, his terms being marked by his office's failed prosecution of O.J. Simpson for double homicide and then later the LAPD's Rampart CRASH Scandal.

While Chris Nolan and his screenwriter brother Jonathan have certainly cooked up something uniquely theirs for the next film, they've drawn inspiration in the past from established comics lore. There are plenty of crummy politicians in the Batman realm that "Nixon" could be patterned after.

First, there's Mayor Hamilton Hill, a crony of corrupt political boss Rupert Thorne, who appeared in the comics of the '80s. Hill tried to kill cops, attempted to frame Batman by planting false evidence, and canned Jim Gordon as police commissioner. He also appeared on Batman: The Animated Series.

Then there's Mayor Armand Kroll, a hard-liner who (not knowing that Jean-Paul Valley had assumed the mantle of the Batman after Bane had crippled Bruce Wayne in the "Knightfall" storyline) praised Valley/Batman's more vicious treatment of criminals. Kroll, like Hill before him, found a reason to replace Gordon as police commissioner. Kroll later died when Ra's Al Ghul released the Clench virus in Gotham.

The "Prey" storyline -- which at one point was rumored to have been an influence on The Dark Knight Rises -- saw Wilson Klass serving as Gotham's mayor. He clashed with Gordon on a TV talk show debate about Batman before assigning Gordon to lead the task force to bring the Dark Knight down. Other potential comics characters upon whom Nixon could be based include more recent Gotham mayors such as Sebastian Hady and David Hull or councilmen like J. Carroll Corcoran and Arthur Reeves.

If there's one pattern in these corrupt Gotham pols that jumps out it's their firing of Jim Gordon as police commissioner and their dedication to seeing Batman removed (or, in Kroll's case, celebrating the substitute Batman's brutality). While we know Nestor Carbonell will reprise his role from The Dark Knight as Mayor Garcia, it's not out of the realm of possibility that he could find himself out of office (or worse) at some point in the next film.
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You know... this forum DOES have an edit button so you can have all of that info in one post instead of four consecutive ones within two minutes.
post #128 of 1562
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You know... this forum DOES have an edit button so you can have all of that info in one post instead of four consecutive ones within two minutes.

Probably trying to get his post count up.
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Big casting news: http://www.variety.com/article/VR111...ews|LatestNews

Excellent news I like Liam Neeson
post #131 of 1562
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Big casting news: http://www.variety.com/article/VR111...ews|LatestNews

Interesting. I wonder if he'll still be wearing the train.
post #132 of 1562
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Originally Posted by sb1 View Post

Interesting. I wonder if he'll still be wearing the train.

It will be UNKNOWN if he will or if hes TAKEN off quickly
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'The Dark Knight Rises' Teaser Poster Unveiled Online (Photo)

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hea...-poster-209965
post #135 of 1562
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'The Dark Knight Rises' Teaser Poster Unveiled Online (Photo)

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hea...-poster-209965

Can't wait to see this one also.
post #136 of 1562
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Can't wait to see this one also.

The teaser for this will be attached to Harry Potter.
post #137 of 1562
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Originally Posted by lwright84 View Post

The teaser for this will be attached to Harry Potter.

Definitely will look out for that.
post #138 of 1562
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The teaser for this will be attached to Harry Potter.

Has that been confirmed? I read it was "rumored" yesterday via AICN.com when they showed off the poster.

Both being WB flicks, it would make sense to toss the Bat teaser in front of the final HP movie...which I assume at least 2-3 people are going to go out & see .
post #139 of 1562
http://www.superherohype.com/news/ar...ming-next-week

Apparently the first trailer for Sherlock Holmes 2 as well.
post #140 of 1562
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Originally Posted by lwright84 View Post

http://www.superherohype.com/news/ar...ming-next-week

Apparently the first trailer for Sherlock Holmes 2 as well.

Not too bad. I will give it a rent.
post #141 of 1562
I’m there. I enjoyed the first one. Rachel McAdams. Noomi Rapace. Oh yeah, I’m definitely there.
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No surprise that the trailers are disappearing...
post #145 of 1562
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Originally Posted by SbWillie View Post
No surprise that the trailers are disappearing...
Not much to see, anyway. A true "teaser". Which, IMO, this movie really doesn't need anyway with all the hype and excitement it'll get.
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The teaser has officially been released. Here's a link to a high quality version:

http://www.flicksandbits.com/2011/07...eleased/13752/
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are they filming parts of this with IMAX cameras like the previous movie?...I remember rumors that Nolan wanted to shoot the entire movie in IMAX
post #150 of 1562
Pretty sure he is using the IMAX 15/70 again but for the whole movie? I doubt it. Very much looking forward to this one.
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