The Dark Knight Rises - Page 43

Damn, this was a fun ride. Reference all the way around. My favorite soundtrack of 2012 and the IMAX shot scenes were beautiful...

I thought they boosted the Bane dialog for the BD, sounded louder than what I saw at the theater.

The Bane voice did seem overpoweringly loud compared to other dialogue on the disc. It was like Richard Attenborough was speaking inside my head with a weird vocalizer. I was also listening with stereo headphones and experienced no issue with intelligibility. It never even occurred to me to try subtitles like you guys have mentioned. Maybe they are doing something weird with the voice in multi-channel surround that is causing this difficulty?

I thought his voice was coming through the mains and not the center when I watched it but I may need to check again. At any rate his voice was juiced up.

Cotillard deserves a Razzie for her final scene.

Yes, Bane's voice is spread to all three front channels.

Hmmm, I didn't think she was so bad with what she was given.
However, it was kinda hokey and should have been done differently.

I think any weaknesses in Cotillard's final scene should be laid at the feet of the Nolans' screenplay. Cotillard's scene reminded me of an old Red Skelton bit in which he plays a dying cowboy who makes a long speech interspersed with the phrase, "I'm goin' fast but before I go I got somthin' to say. I think Cotillard has proved herself to be a fine actress. Indeed, she was excellent for most of the film but ended up having to walk the plank in her final scene in order to ratchet up the drama. What can I say? The Dark Knight Rises is a comic book fantasy and i'm a big boy so I can live with a little silliness, especially when it works as well as it did in this film

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Got my bd Friday, watched it both nights altho while distracted around the house during both viewings. Was wondering about the Bane voice thing, thought it a bit overbearing in relationship to the rest of the audio, and wondered how they tweaked Tom Hardy's voice, and to an extent, why the way they did. Visually stunning and the soundtrack I generally thought excellent, particularly LFEs. Plot was a bit comic book like....but wait, it it's supposed to be Loved the toys, particularly the Bat. I had just seen Anne Hathaway on Letterman the other night, and she does seem to just have that presence both on and off screen that's quite delicious, and think she stole the show to an extent; definitely her Cat Woman and Selina Kyle are all her own. Solid performances by all, though I prefer Gary Oldman in edgier roles. Made me see Joseph Gordon Levitt in a new light, for a skinny teenage kinda guy (or my memories of his earlier career coloring things here), building somewhat since Inception, he comes across as more confident and mature, although he physically needs to be more imposing IMHO.

I agree with almost everything you said. My only reservation is that I think Gary Oldman can do no wrong. He is wonderful in everything and I thought his performance as John LeCarre's George Smiley, in Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy, was in a class with that of the iconic Alec Guinness in the BBC miniseries based on the LeCarre book. But I agree with everything else you wrote. I've already said that I thought Hathaway was wonderful and her character was central to the drama. Like you, I have reservations about Joseph Gordon-Levitt. I certainly hope he doesn't come back in a future Batman film as some sort of Caped Crusader. That would be a big mistake, it seems to me.

I still have Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy on my dvr unwatched for a few weeks now, will have to watch that sooner than later. I agree, Oldman is great and has a wide range, but I like his bad/mad roles the best (thinking of Zorg in The Fifth Element, Stansfield in The Professional, Korshunov in Air Force One, Carnegie in The Book of Eli, Mason Verger in Hannibal). I have a feeling that we just might see more of Joey G-L with that ending....maybe he'll transform himself some more and surprise us.

Watched this last night. The IMAX scenes were nothing less than gorgeous. Anne Hathaway in that cat girl outfit... get outta town.

Agreed.
I caught him acting several times.
He just doesn't have the gravitas for this stuff.

The Bat vehicle sound effect was bizarre and intriguing (when it pops out of nowhere and then overwhelms you). It was the showcase sound effect to the movie, imo.

Nightwing?

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Nightwing!

Just saw some sneak preview of Nightwing on youtube....didn't look very good. Some tag line about you wanted it you got it made me more want to say you misunderstood, take it back.

That's a fan-made short, not a sneak preview of anything legit.

Thanks, not a big youtube kinda guy, but sometimes production values like that do become actual tv...heck there's a lot of that kind of stuff on now. So what are you referring to?

YouTube is the great equalizer, turning fans into filmmakers. Die hard fans, bless their hearts, will not only write fan fiction about their favourite characters, but they will sometimes film those stories as short films and upload them to YouTube. The Nighthawk short you saw was an example of that. Heck, there is a fan-made Star Trek show that has actually gotten a fan following of its own.

So that was the Nighthawk you were referring to before, though? Or is there another project of note or just the plot somewhat goes that way?

That's the same Nighthawk that I posted the drawing of. The character is Batman's sidekick Robin, but all grown up with a new name and costume.

Thought it was Nightwing not Nighthawk.

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Yup, my mistake: Nightwing, not Nighthawk (must have had airplanes on my mind when I was typing).

I was a bit annoyed when they referred to it as an "atomic bomb". An atomic bomb is a fission era device. If we are talking about a device co-opted from a fusion powerstation, that implies hydrogen in a fusion process, and more accurately a hydrogen bomb, no? Nolan's Batman franchise is better at tech than this, so I do not give it a pass.

Yes, I agree. When I saw that scene I thought wait, what? Then after contemplating it for a few seconds I guessed it was done on purpose to dumb it down for the audience. The fusion reactor in TDKR would have been a true technological break-through since current predictions do not give us this ability until 2050 or later.

Agreed.

Hopefully, The Large Hadron Collider will get us there sooner.
The world governments should pool resources and start a Manhattan Project, nothing going forward is more important to the human race.

Fail.

OK, and your approach would be?