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post #1261 of 1595
Damn, this was a fun ride. Reference all the way around. My favorite soundtrack of 2012 and the IMAX shot scenes were beautiful...
post #1262 of 1595

I thought they boosted the Bane dialog for the BD, sounded louder than what I saw at the theater.

post #1263 of 1595
The Bane voice did seem overpoweringly loud compared to other dialogue on the disc. It was like Richard Attenborough was speaking inside my head with a weird vocalizer. I was also listening with stereo headphones and experienced no issue with intelligibility. It never even occurred to me to try subtitles like you guys have mentioned. Maybe they are doing something weird with the voice in multi-channel surround that is causing this difficulty?
post #1264 of 1595
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Originally Posted by Mr. Hanky View Post

The Bane voice did seem overpoweringly loud compared to other dialogue on the disc. It was like Richard Attenborough was speaking inside my head with a weird vocalizer. I was also listening with stereo headphones and experienced no issue with intelligibility. It never even occurred to me to try subtitles like you guys have mentioned. Maybe they are doing something weird with the voice in multi-channel surround that is causing this difficulty?
I thought his voice was coming through the mains and not the center when I watched it but I may need to check again. At any rate his voice was juiced up.
post #1265 of 1595
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Michael Caine and Anne Hathaway should get noticed for their acting efforts here.
Bale and Cotillard are both fine, J. Gordon-Levitt not so much.

Cotillard deserves a Razzie for her final scene.
post #1266 of 1595
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Originally Posted by General Kenobi View Post

I thought his voice was coming through the mains and not the center when I watched it but I may need to check again. At any rate his voice was juiced up.

Yes, Bane's voice is spread to all three front channels.
post #1267 of 1595
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Cotillard deserves a Razzie for her final scene.
Hmmm, I didn't think she was so bad with what she was given.
However, it was kinda hokey and should have been done differently.
post #1268 of 1595
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Originally Posted by oink View Post

Michael Caine and Anne Hathaway should get noticed for their acting efforts here.
Bale and Cotillard are both fine, J. Gordon-Levitt not so much.

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Cotillard deserves a Razzie for her final scene.

I think any weaknesses in Cotillard's final scene should be laid at the feet of the Nolans' screenplay. Cotillard's scene reminded me of an old Red Skelton bit in which he plays a dying cowboy who makes a long speech interspersed with the phrase, "I'm goin' fast but before I go I got somthin' to say.smile.gif I think Cotillard has proved herself to be a fine actress. Indeed, she was excellent for most of the film but ended up having to walk the plank in her final scene in order to ratchet up the drama. What can I say? The Dark Knight Rises is a comic book fantasy and i'm a big boy so I can live with a little silliness, especially when it works as well as it did in this film
post #1269 of 1595
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I think any weaknesses in Cotillard's final scene should be laid at the feet of the Nolans' screenplay. Cotillard's scene reminded me of an old Red Skelton bit in which he plays a dying cowboy who makes a long speech interspersed with the phrase, "I'm goin' fast but before I go I got somthin' to say.smile.gif I think Cotillard has proved herself to be a fine actress. Indeed, she was excellent for most of the film but ended up having to walk the plank in her final scene in order to ratchet up the drama. What can I say? The Dark Knight Rises is a comic book fantasy and i'm a big boy so I can live with a little silliness, especially when it works as well as it did in this film
+1
post #1270 of 1595
Got my bd Friday, watched it both nights altho while distracted around the house during both viewings. Was wondering about the Bane voice thing, thought it a bit overbearing in relationship to the rest of the audio, and wondered how they tweaked Tom Hardy's voice, and to an extent, why the way they did. Visually stunning and the soundtrack I generally thought excellent, particularly LFEs. Plot was a bit comic book like....but wait, it it's supposed to be smile.gif Loved the toys, particularly the Bat. I had just seen Anne Hathaway on Letterman the other night, and she does seem to just have that presence both on and off screen that's quite delicious, and think she stole the show to an extent; definitely her Cat Woman and Selina Kyle are all her own. Solid performances by all, though I prefer Gary Oldman in edgier roles. Made me see Joseph Gordon Levitt in a new light, for a skinny teenage kinda guy (or my memories of his earlier career coloring things here), building somewhat since Inception, he comes across as more confident and mature, although he physically needs to be more imposing IMHO.
post #1271 of 1595
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I had just seen Anne Hathaway on Letterman the other night, and she does seem to just have that presence both on and off screen that's quite delicious, and think she stole the show to an extent; definitely her Cat Woman and Selina Kyle are all her own. Solid performances by all, though I prefer Gary Oldman in edgier roles. Made me see Joseph Gordon Levitt in a new light, for a skinny teenage kinda guy (or my memories of his earlier career coloring things here), building somewhat since Inception, he comes across as more confident and mature, although he physically needs to be more imposing IMHO.

I agree with almost everything you said. My only reservation is that I think Gary Oldman can do no wrong. He is wonderful in everything and I thought his performance as John LeCarre's George Smiley, in Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy, was in a class with that of the iconic Alec Guinness in the BBC miniseries based on the LeCarre book. But I agree with everything else you wrote. I've already said that I thought Hathaway was wonderful and her character was central to the drama. Like you, I have reservations about Joseph Gordon-Levitt. I certainly hope he doesn't come back in a future Batman film as some sort of Caped Crusader. That would be a big mistake, it seems to me.
post #1272 of 1595
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I had just seen Anne Hathaway on Letterman the other night, and she does seem to just have that presence both on and off screen that's quite delicious, and think she stole the show to an extent; definitely her Cat Woman and Selina Kyle are all her own. Solid performances by all, though I prefer Gary Oldman in edgier roles. Made me see Joseph Gordon Levitt in a new light, for a skinny teenage kinda guy (or my memories of his earlier career coloring things here), building somewhat since Inception, he comes across as more confident and mature, although he physically needs to be more imposing IMHO.

I agree with almost everything you said. My only reservation is that I think Gary Oldman can do no wrong. He is wonderful in everything and I thought his performance as John LeCarre's George Smiley, in Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy, was in a class with that of the iconic Alec Guinness in the BBC miniseries based on the LeCarre book. But I agree with everything else you wrote. I've already said that I thought Hathaway was wonderful and her character was central to the drama. Like you, I have reservations about Joseph Gordon-Levitt. I certainly hope he doesn't come back in a future Batman film as some sort of Caped Crusader. That would be a big mistake, it seems to me.

I still have Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy on my dvr unwatched for a few weeks now, will have to watch that sooner than later. I agree, Oldman is great and has a wide range, but I like his bad/mad roles the best (thinking of Zorg in The Fifth Element, Stansfield in The Professional, Korshunov in Air Force One, Carnegie in The Book of Eli, Mason Verger in Hannibal). I have a feeling that we just might see more of Joey G-L with that ending....maybe he'll transform himself some more and surprise us.
post #1273 of 1595
Watched this last night. The IMAX scenes were nothing less than gorgeous. Anne Hathaway in that cat girl outfit... get outta town.
post #1274 of 1595
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. Like you, I have reservations about Joseph Gordon-Levitt. I certainly hope he doesn't come back in a future Batman film as some sort of Caped Crusader. That would be a big mistake, it seems to me.
Agreed.
I caught him acting several times.
He just doesn't have the gravitas for this stuff.wink.gif
post #1275 of 1595
The Bat vehicle sound effect was bizarre and intriguing (when it pops out of nowhere and then overwhelms you). It was the showcase sound effect to the movie, imo.
post #1276 of 1595
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Originally Posted by lovinthehd View Post

I had just seen Anne Hathaway on Letterman the other night, and she does seem to just have that presence both on and off screen that's quite delicious, and think she stole the show to an extent; definitely her Cat Woman and Selina Kyle are all her own. Solid performances by all, though I prefer Gary Oldman in edgier roles. Made me see Joseph Gordon Levitt in a new light, for a skinny teenage kinda guy (or my memories of his earlier career coloring things here), building somewhat since Inception, he comes across as more confident and mature, although he physically needs to be more imposing IMHO.

I agree with almost everything you said. My only reservation is that I think Gary Oldman can do no wrong. He is wonderful in everything and I thought his performance as John LeCarre's George Smiley, in Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy, was in a class with that of the iconic Alec Guinness in the BBC miniseries based on the LeCarre book. But I agree with everything else you wrote. I've already said that I thought Hathaway was wonderful and her character was central to the drama. Like you, I have reservations about Joseph Gordon-Levitt. I certainly hope he doesn't come back in a future Batman film as some sort of Caped Crusader. That would be a big mistake, it seems to me.

Nightwing?

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post #1277 of 1595
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Nightwing?
Nightwing!

post #1278 of 1595
Just saw some sneak preview of Nightwing on youtube....didn't look very good. Some tag line about you wanted it you got it made me more want to say you misunderstood, take it back.
post #1279 of 1595
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Originally Posted by lovinthehd View Post

Just saw some sneak preview of Nightwing on youtube....didn't look very good.
That's a fan-made short, not a sneak preview of anything legit.
post #1280 of 1595
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Just saw some sneak preview of Nightwing on youtube....didn't look very good.
That's a fan-made short, not a sneak preview of anything legit.

Thanks, not a big youtube kinda guy, but sometimes production values like that do become actual tv...heck there's a lot of that kind of stuff on now. So what are you referring to?
post #1281 of 1595
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So what are you referring to?
YouTube is the great equalizer, turning fans into filmmakers. Die hard fans, bless their hearts, will not only write fan fiction about their favourite characters, but they will sometimes film those stories as short films and upload them to YouTube. The Nighthawk short you saw was an example of that. Heck, there is a fan-made Star Trek show that has actually gotten a fan following of its own.
post #1282 of 1595
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Originally Posted by lovinthehd View Post

So what are you referring to?
YouTube is the great equalizer, turning fans into filmmakers. Die hard fans, bless their hearts, will not only write fan fiction about their favourite characters, but they will sometimes film those stories as short films and upload them to YouTube. The Nighthawk short you saw was an example of that. Heck, there is a fan-made Star Trek show that has actually gotten a fan following of its own.

So that was the Nighthawk you were referring to before, though? Or is there another project of note or just the plot somewhat goes that way?
post #1283 of 1595
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So that was the Nighthawk you were referring to before, though?
That's the same Nighthawk that I posted the drawing of. The character is Batman's sidekick Robin, but all grown up with a new name and costume.
post #1284 of 1595
Thought it was Nightwing not Nighthawk.

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post #1285 of 1595
Yup, my mistake: Nightwing, not Nighthawk (must have had airplanes on my mind when I was typing).
post #1286 of 1595
I was a bit annoyed when they referred to it as an "atomic bomb". An atomic bomb is a fission era device. If we are talking about a device co-opted from a fusion powerstation, that implies hydrogen in a fusion process, and more accurately a hydrogen bomb, no? Nolan's Batman franchise is better at tech than this, so I do not give it a pass.
post #1287 of 1595
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Originally Posted by Mr. Hanky View Post

I was a bit annoyed when they referred to it as an "atomic bomb". An atomic bomb is a fission era device. If we are talking about a device co-opted from a fusion powerstation, that implies hydrogen in a fusion process, and more accurately a hydrogen bomb, no? Nolan's Batman franchise is better at tech than this, so I do not give it a pass.

Yes, I agree. When I saw that scene I thought wait, what? Then after contemplating it for a few seconds I guessed it was done on purpose to dumb it down for the audience. The fusion reactor in TDKR would have been a true technological break-through since current predictions do not give us this ability until 2050 or later.
post #1288 of 1595
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Originally Posted by Mr.G View Post

Yes, I agree. When I saw that scene I thought wait, what? Then after contemplating it for a few seconds I guessed it was done on purpose to dumb it down for the audience.
Agreed.

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The fusion reactor in TDKR would have been a true technological break-through since current predictions do not give us this ability until 2050 or later.
Hopefully, The Large Hadron Collider will get us there sooner.
The world governments should pool resources and start a Manhattan Project, nothing going forward is more important to the human race.wink.gif
post #1289 of 1595
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The world governments should pool resources

Fail.
post #1290 of 1595
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Fail.
OK, and your approach would be?
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