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post #1321 of 1595
The Dark Knight Rises was a good movie. Borderline great, but not quite there. "Awesome", would be fitting.

I consider it an "intelligent film" for the masses. Whereas the most popular movies for the masses are things like 'Avatar', 'Titanic', and other generic storylines with hundreds of millions of dollars thrown at them. The "intelligent films" for the masses are things like 'The Dark Knight(Rises)', 'Inception', 'Shutter Island', and so on. (Being that it was a film for the masses, they couldn't let Batman die..)

I personally liked The Dark Knight, Inception, and Shutter Island (or equivalent movies). Not because I found them to be "intelligent" but because they were entertaining. I accepted them for the big budget blockbusters that they were, and enjoyed the stories as well as the production values. Nothing cooler than having your house shake as Leonardo Dicaprio falls into a tub of water.

What I'm trying to say here is, I don't know if The Dark Knight Rises needs to be broken down and dissected so much. Every movie will have issues, and all can be broken down for ages. However, doing so usually ruins what entertainment value the movie had to begin with.
post #1322 of 1595
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Originally Posted by Louquid View Post

The Dark Knight Rises was a good movie. Borderline great, but not quite there. "Awesome", would be fitting.
I consider it an "intelligent film" for the masses. Whereas the most popular movies for the masses are things like 'Avatar', 'Titanic', and other generic storylines with hundreds of millions of dollars thrown at them. The "intelligent films" for the masses are things like 'The Dark Knight(Rises)', 'Inception', 'Shutter Island', and so on. (Being that it was a film for the masses, they couldn't let Batman die..)
I personally liked The Dark Knight, Inception, and Shutter Island (or equivalent movies). Not because I found them to be "intelligent" but because they were entertaining. I accepted them for the big budget blockbusters that they were, and enjoyed the stories as well as the production values. Nothing cooler than having your house shake as Leonardo Dicaprio falls into a tub of water.
What I'm trying to say here is, I don't know if The Dark Knight Rises needs to be broken down and dissected so much. Every movie will have issues, and all can be broken down for ages. However, doing so usually ruins what entertainment value the movie had to begin with.

User reported. Get this man some AVS Infractions.
post #1323 of 1595
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Originally Posted by darthrsg View Post

User reported. Get this man some AVS Infractions.
No kidding....I guess he doesn't understand the whole POINT of this forum is to piss & moan endlessly about movies.tongue.gif
post #1324 of 1595
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Originally Posted by darthrsg View Post

User reported. Get this man some AVS Infractions.

Ha seriously?
post #1325 of 1595
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Originally Posted by Louquid View Post

Ha seriously?
He was joking.wink.gif
post #1326 of 1595
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Originally Posted by Louquid View Post

The Dark Knight Rises was a good movie. Borderline great, but not quite there. "Awesome", would be fitting.
I consider it an "intelligent film" for the masses. Whereas the most popular movies for the masses are things like 'Avatar', 'Titanic', and other generic storylines with hundreds of millions of dollars thrown at them. The "intelligent films" for the masses are things like 'The Dark Knight(Rises)', 'Inception', 'Shutter Island', and so on. (Being that it was a film for the masses, they couldn't let Batman die..)
I personally liked The Dark Knight, Inception, and Shutter Island (or equivalent movies). Not because I found them to be "intelligent" but because they were entertaining. I accepted them for the big budget blockbusters that they were, and enjoyed the stories as well as the production values. Nothing cooler than having your house shake as Leonardo Dicaprio falls into a tub of water.
What I'm trying to say here is, I don't know if The Dark Knight Rises needs to be broken down and dissected so much. Every movie will have issues, and all can be broken down for ages. However, doing so usually ruins what entertainment value the movie had to begin with.

sorry dude, you are being to reasonable.
post #1327 of 1595
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Originally Posted by oink View Post

No kidding....I guess he doesn't understand the whole POINT of this forum is to piss & moan endlessly about movies.tongue.gif
ENDLESSLY
post #1328 of 1595
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Originally Posted by Louquid View Post

Ha seriously?
I got infractions for saying Chris Hardwick sucked.
post #1329 of 1595
Haha. First part seemed possibly legit.
post #1330 of 1595
Haha. See, thats the kind of stories I've heard about with the AVS infractions. Was wondering if I really was about to get one.

So should I be afraid to post my opinion of Chris Hardwick too?
post #1331 of 1595
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Originally Posted by Louquid View Post

Haha. See, thats the kind of stories I've heard about with the AVS infractions. Was wondering if I really was about to get one.
So should I be afraid to post my opinion of Chris Hardwick too?
I even censored the swear words.
post #1332 of 1595
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Originally Posted by darthrsg View Post

ENDLESSLY
Thank you for fixing my post.wink.gif

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Originally Posted by Louquid View Post

Haha. First part seemed possibly legit.
Back in the old days of this site, it was common.
Over time, things have changed.
It's much looser now.
Probably because there are alot of long-time members and we have a good feel for the personalities of each other and realize the large majority of our posts are not personal or demeaning.
I guess we have just grown-up...or gotten lazy.biggrin.gif
post #1333 of 1595
Awesome.
post #1334 of 1595
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Originally Posted by Louquid View Post

What I'm trying to say here is, I don't know if The Dark Knight Rises needs to be broken down and dissected so much. Every movie will have issues, and all can be broken down for ages. However, doing so usually ruins what entertainment value the movie had to begin with.

Personally, I didn't find Dark Knight Rises to be particularly intelligent or entertaining. I was bored stiff through most of it. What does that leave us with?
post #1335 of 1595
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Originally Posted by Josh Z View Post

"Bloated, over-hyped debacle" pretty much describes Dark Knight Rises to a T, IMO.
Well, I don't think this was hyped nearly as much as the last installment. And don't get me wrong: Heath was awesome, but Joker completely steals Batman's thunder. And I've mentioned before that I'd like to see some films with villains as the main attraction, but TDK turns into "The Joker Show".

Ledger does turn in a "tour-de-force" performance, but that's all there really is, IMO.
post #1336 of 1595
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Originally Posted by oink View Post

Thank you for fixing my post.wink.gif
Back in the old days of this site, it was common.
Over time, things have changed.
It's much looser now.
Probably because there are alot of long-time members and we have a good feel for the personalities of each other and realize the large majority of our posts are not personal or demeaning.
I guess we have just grown-up...or gotten lazy.biggrin.gif

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Personally, I didn't find Dark Knight Rises to be particularly intelligent or entertaining. I was bored stiff through most of it. What does that leave us with?

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Well, I don't think this was hyped nearly as much as the last installment. And don't get me wrong: Heath was awesome, but Joker completely steals Batman's thunder. And I've mentioned before that I'd like to see some films with villains as the main attraction, but TDK turns into "The Joker Show".
Ledger does turn in a "tour-de-force" performance, but that's all there really is, IMO.


just saw batman returns last night. must say, what an unnecessarily busy plot. all kinds of contrivances that really go nowhere.
alfred leaves and the movie ends with no resolution. marion cotilliard suddenly turns to the dark side.
bane can appear anywhere and everywhere in a moments notice.
wayne can survive a nuclear explosion.

don't get me wrong, i found it entertaining, but had many, many eye rolling moments.

and by the way, oink you're a jackkass.
post #1337 of 1595
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Originally Posted by mr. wally View Post

just saw batman returns last night. must say, what an unnecessarily busy plot. all kinds of contrivances that really go nowhere.
alfred leaves and the movie ends with no resolution. marion cotilliard suddenly turns to the dark side.
bane can appear anywhere and everywhere in a moments notice.
wayne can survive a nuclear explosion.
don't get me wrong, i found it entertaining, but had many, many eye rolling moments.
and by the way, oink you're a jackkass.
Batman Returns sucks. I would like to have seen Nolan's take on the Penguin though.
post #1338 of 1595
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Originally Posted by darthrsg View Post

Batman Returns sucks. I would like to have seen Nolan's take on the Penguin though.

To one degree or another, I have enjoyed all the Batman films. Still, it seems to me that Nolan's brilliant Batman Trilogy places all the other Batman films in fourth place and lower. Like all of Nolan's work, his Batman films require multiple viewings to mine all the gold that is there. For those who haven't done it, try it and you will see what I mean.

On another subject, sort of, I saw Anne Hathaway's performance as Fantinte in Tom Hooper's Les Miserables today and fell more deeply in love with her than ever. If there ever was a role more antithetical to her Selina Ward/Catwoman turn in Dark Knight Rises than the doomed Fantine in Les Mis, I don't know what it might be. No matter, Hathaway was as sensational in the role of Fantine as she had been as the Catwoman.
post #1339 of 1595
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Originally Posted by Josh Z View Post

Personally, I didn't find Dark Knight Rises to be particularly intelligent or entertaining. I was bored stiff through most of it. What does that leave us with?
What was the big turn-off for you?

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and by the way, oink you're a jackkass.
Apology accepted, Captain Needa.....wink.gif
post #1340 of 1595
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Originally Posted by Josh Z View Post

Personally, I didn't find Dark Knight Rises to be particularly intelligent or entertaining. I was bored stiff through most of it. What does that leave us with?

It leaves us with some insight into your movie tastes. That you didn't like Dark Knight Rises and perhaps you don't like long/slow movies.

Though I didn't feel this movie was long or slow.
post #1341 of 1595
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Originally Posted by Louquid View Post

The Dark Knight Rises was a good movie. Borderline great, but not quite there. "Awesome", would be fitting.
I consider it an "intelligent film" for the masses. Whereas the most popular movies for the masses are things like 'Avatar', 'Titanic', and other generic storylines with hundreds of millions of dollars thrown at them. The "intelligent films" for the masses are things like 'The Dark Knight(Rises)', 'Inception', 'Shutter Island', and so on. (Being that it was a film for the masses, they couldn't let Batman die..)
I personally liked The Dark Knight, Inception, and Shutter Island (or equivalent movies). Not because I found them to be "intelligent" but because they were entertaining. I accepted them for the big budget blockbusters that they were, and enjoyed the stories as well as the production values. Nothing cooler than having your house shake as Leonardo Dicaprio falls into a tub of water.
What I'm trying to say here is, I don't know if The Dark Knight Rises needs to be broken down and dissected so much. Every movie will have issues, and all can be broken down for ages. However, doing so usually ruins what entertainment value the movie had to begin with.

Wait what?

The fact that

1.Batman can walk on the ice when others fall through the ice
2. The city is in peril yet batman finds time to post a bat of fire on the bridge
3.Batman jumps out the batplane to go hand to hand combat when he can take out everything and everyone right then and there

Just those simple 3 things show no intelligence was required when making this movie. Inception was the only intelligent movie Nolan made in the past few years. TDKR was the worst. That was the Ipad mini to the DK's Ipad. He knew people would buy it no matter how crap it was.
post #1342 of 1595
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Originally Posted by DavidML3 View Post

Wait what?
The fact that
1.Batman can walk on the ice when others fall through the ice
2. The city is in peril yet batman finds time to post a bat of fire on the bridge
3.Batman jumps out the batplane to go hand to hand combat when he can take out everything and everyone right then and there

3. He wanted revenge on Bane, who literally broke him. Understandable that he would want to confront him hand to hand...

2. Did you know that "fans" complained that there was no "bat of fire" in TDK, as it was featured on the poster? They wanted to include it in TDKR for this very reason. Also, in the context of the film, it gives hope to the people when they finally see it. It shows them that Batman is here for them. How or when he did it really isn't necessary imo.

1. One could assume that his suit is equiped with some sort of sensor thingies, making it possible for him to walk on the thickest part of the ice. It's a military suit in the first place.

So yeah, I know, this is too far fetched etc, but he's Batman - people seem to forget that it's still a super-hero movie, no matter how much "grounded in reality" the filmmakers wanted it to be. Christopher Nolan was most likely aware of it as well...
post #1343 of 1595
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Originally Posted by DavidML3 View Post

Wait what?
The fact that
1.Batman can walk on the ice when others fall through the ice
2. The city is in peril yet batman finds time to post a bat of fire on the bridge
3.Batman jumps out the batplane to go hand to hand combat when he can take out everything and everyone right then and there
Just those simple 3 things show no intelligence was required when making this movie. Inception was the only intelligent movie Nolan made in the past few years. TDKR was the worst. That was the Ipad mini to the DK's Ipad. He knew people would buy it no matter how crap it was.

1. He's Batman.
2. He's Batman. These movies are about symbols and such. This flaming bat was akin to the flag in the Star Spangled Banner...Gave proof through the night that our flag/bat was still there.
3. Failing to see the problem here....jumps out of plane to go hand to hand combat...like a man...in an action movie.

smile.gif
post #1344 of 1595
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Originally Posted by Louquid View Post


Though I didn't feel this movie was long or slow.
+1

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Originally Posted by DavidML3 View Post

Inception was the only intelligent movie Nolan made in the past few years.
Whoa.eek.gif

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Originally Posted by darthrsg View Post

1. He's Batman.
2. He's Batman. These movies are about symbols and such. This flaming bat was akin to the flag in the Star Spangled Banner...Gave proof through the night that our flag/bat was still there.
3. Failing to see the problem here....jumps out of plane to go hand to hand combat...like a man...in an action movie.
smile.gif
Yeah, that.
post #1345 of 1595
I am hoping the next rehash of Batman uses a little more CGI. I definitely appreciate Nolan's gritty, real-world style but it would be exciting to see Batman more stylized with better gadgets and action sequences.
post #1346 of 1595
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Originally Posted by drewTT View Post

I am hoping the next rehash of Batman uses a little more CGI. I definitely appreciate Nolan's gritty, real-world style but it would be exciting to see Batman more stylized with better gadgets and action sequences.
Yeah like Spiderman 3 or Transformers 2.
post #1347 of 1595
I watched the BD last night and was a little disappointed that the BD had "mixed" aspect ratios. The theater presentation was 2:35:1 but IMDB says it was shot 1:44:1 for IMAX. Guess they figured they could take some liberties with the BD an only a few scenes were 2:35:1 the rest 1:77:1. Gives me pause to ever wanting to rent a WB tentpole film again. And I was disappointed in the message "telegraphed" in the story but enough said there before I get "infractioned." biggrin.gif
post #1348 of 1595
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Originally Posted by Brian Conrad View Post

And I was disappointed in the message "telegraphed" in the story
Which message are you referring to?
post #1349 of 1595
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Originally Posted by Brian Conrad View Post

I watched the BD last night and was a little disappointed that the BD had "mixed" aspect ratios. The theater presentation was 2:35:1 but IMDB says it was shot 1:44:1 for IMAX. Guess they figured they could take some liberties with the BD an only a few scenes were 2:35:1 the rest 1:77:1. Gives me pause to ever wanting to rent a WB tentpole film again. And I was disappointed in the message "telegraphed" in the story but enough said there before I get "infractioned." biggrin.gif

I'm curious about the "message", too. Your complaint, more with the director than anyone, is explained in this article http://www.highdefdigest.com/blog/mission-impossible-ghost-protocol-aspect-ratio-poll/
post #1350 of 1595
Infractioned is Nolan's next movie in the Inception Saga. More foghorn and more dreams in dreams than a freaking matryoshka doll and if you die in the dream you die in real life. Starring Robert Englund as Fred.
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