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post #3271 of 9564
12/20/10 at 8:30am
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Originally Posted by jmpage2 View Post

The answer to Q1 is that boxee is going to use folder.jpg for all movies in the same folder that it is in.

I would think that it is a design flaw/bug if bb associates all the movie files in the sub-folders with the folder.jpg of the parent folder. Especially since the parent folder does not have any video files.
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post #3272 of 9564
12/20/10 at 9:00am
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Originally Posted by tbooth View Post

Thanks. It could very well be the file. I ripped that file directly from the disc (Shaun of the Dead) and I also tried Van Helsing and got the same results. I think MakeMKV just has issues with HD-DVDs.

It very well could be - I didn't read it, but I see there's a 5 page thread about "Problematic HD-DVDs - your movies could very well be on the list...

http://www.makemkv.com/forum2/ucp.php?mode=login
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post #3273 of 9564
12/20/10 at 9:04am
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Originally Posted by tbooth View Post

I started running out of space on my WHS and so I started redoing my HD-DVD files from M2TS with PCM sound to MKV with DD+ using MakeMKV.

The Boxee Box doesn't seem to be able to play these files. I tried with, and without having the Dolby Digital Plus capable receiver box checked. Sometimes I get the "Failed to initalize Audio Device" error and sometimes the DD+ light on my receiver just blinks on and off and the sound never plays.

I get sound from the file while playing it in the newest XBMC release.

Here is a sample http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15258218/DDPlusSkip.mkv

Do you have the matched frame rate option checked? This can cause issues like you described. When I uncheck mine so it has 1080p 60 output it is fine for me.

EDIT: I'm not talking about those specific HD DVDs, just in general the MKVs I created from my HD DVDs
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post #3274 of 9564
12/20/10 at 9:15am
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Originally Posted by realudaman View Post

Q1:How do you name two tv episods in one file?

Code:
Tv.Show.S01E01.Name.of.the.Show.1
Tv.Show.S01E02.Name.of.the.Show.2
Is this correct: Tv.Show.S01E01.E01E02.Name.of.the.Show.1.Name.of.the.Show.2

No, you can't do that. Each file has to be separate.

However, I fooled the BB by creating SYMLINKS.

Since the lion's share of my library is DVDs of TV shows, and each DVD has anywhere from 4 to 8 episodes per disk, this is what I did:

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lrwxrwxrwx    1 admin    administ       48 Dec 18 16:23 Buck.Rogers.in.the.25th.Century.S01E01.iso -> /share/TV Shows/Buck Rogers/Season 1/Disk 1A.iso
lrwxrwxrwx    1 admin    administ       48 Dec 18 16:23 Buck.Rogers.in.the.25th.Century.S01E02.iso -> /share/TV Shows/Buck Rogers/Season 1/Disk 1A.iso
lrwxrwxrwx    1 admin    administ       48 Dec 18 16:23 Buck.Rogers.in.the.25th.Century.S01E03.iso -> /share/TV Shows/Buck Rogers/Season 1/Disk 1A.iso
lrwxrwxrwx    1 admin    administ       48 Dec 18 16:23 Buck.Rogers.in.the.25th.Century.S01E04.iso -> /share/TV Shows/Buck Rogers/Season 1/Disk 1A.iso
lrwxrwxrwx    1 admin    administ       48 Dec 18 16:23 Buck.Rogers.in.the.25th.Century.S01E05.iso -> /share/TV Shows/Buck Rogers/Season 1/Disk 1B.iso
lrwxrwxrwx    1 admin    administ       48 Dec 18 16:23 Buck.Rogers.in.the.25th.Century.S01E06.iso -> /share/TV Shows/Buck Rogers/Season 1/Disk 1B.iso
lrwxrwxrwx    1 admin    administ       48 Dec 18 16:23 Buck.Rogers.in.the.25th.Century.S01E07.iso -> /share/TV Shows/Buck Rogers/Season 1/Disk 1B.iso
lrwxrwxrwx    1 admin    administ       48 Dec 18 16:23 Buck.Rogers.in.the.25th.Century.S01E08.iso -> /share/TV Shows/Buck Rogers/Season 1/Disk 1B.iso
lrwxrwxrwx    1 admin    administ       48 Dec 18 16:23 Buck.Rogers.in.the.25th.Century.S01E09.iso -> /share/TV Shows/Buck Rogers/Season 1/Disk 2A.iso
lrwxrwxrwx    1 admin    administ       48 Dec 18 16:23 Buck.Rogers.in.the.25th.Century.S01E10.iso -> /share/TV Shows/Buck Rogers/Season 1/Disk 2A.iso
lrwxrwxrwx    1 admin    administ       48 Dec 18 16:23 Buck.Rogers.in.the.25th.Century.S01E11.iso -> /share/TV Shows/Buck Rogers/Season 1/Disk 2A.iso
lrwxrwxrwx    1 admin    administ       48 Dec 18 16:23 Buck.Rogers.in.the.25th.Century.S01E12.iso -> /share/TV Shows/Buck Rogers/Season 1/Disk 2A.iso
lrwxrwxrwx    1 admin    administ       48 Dec 18 16:23 Buck.Rogers.in.the.25th.Century.S01E13.iso -> /share/TV Shows/Buck Rogers/Season 1/Disk 2B.iso
lrwxrwxrwx    1 admin    administ       48 Dec 18 16:23 Buck.Rogers.in.the.25th.Century.S01E14.iso -> /share/TV Shows/Buck Rogers/Season 1/Disk 2B.iso
lrwxrwxrwx    1 admin    administ       48 Dec 18 16:23 Buck.Rogers.in.the.25th.Century.S01E15.iso -> /share/TV Shows/Buck Rogers/Season 1/Disk 2B.iso
lrwxrwxrwx    1 admin    administ       48 Dec 18 16:23 Buck.Rogers.in.the.25th.Century.S01E16.iso -> /share/TV Shows/Buck Rogers/Season 1/Disk 2B.iso
lrwxrwxrwx    1 admin    administ       48 Dec 18 16:23 Buck.Rogers.in.the.25th.Century.S01E17.iso -> /share/TV Shows/Buck Rogers/Season 1/Disk 3A.iso
lrwxrwxrwx    1 admin    administ       48 Dec 18 16:23 Buck.Rogers.in.the.25th.Century.S01E18.iso -> /share/TV Shows/Buck Rogers/Season 1/Disk 3A.iso
lrwxrwxrwx    1 admin    administ       48 Dec 18 16:23 Buck.Rogers.in.the.25th.Century.S01E19.iso -> /share/TV Shows/Buck Rogers/Season 1/Disk 3A.iso
lrwxrwxrwx    1 admin    administ       48 Dec 18 16:23 Buck.Rogers.in.the.25th.Century.S01E20.iso -> /share/TV Shows/Buck Rogers/Season 1/Disk 3A.iso
lrwxrwxrwx    1 admin    administ       48 Dec 18 16:23 Buck.Rogers.in.the.25th.Century.S01E21.iso -> /share/TV Shows/Buck Rogers/Season 1/Disk 3B.iso
lrwxrwxrwx    1 admin    administ       48 Dec 18 16:23 Buck.Rogers.in.the.25th.Century.S01E22.iso -> /share/TV Shows/Buck Rogers/Season 1/Disk 3B.iso
lrwxrwxrwx    1 admin    administ       48 Dec 18 16:23 Buck.Rogers.in.the.25th.Century.S01E23.iso -> /share/TV Shows/Buck Rogers/Season 1/Disk 3B.iso
lrwxrwxrwx    1 admin    administ       48 Dec 18 16:23 Buck.Rogers.in.the.25th.Century.S01E24.iso -> /share/TV Shows/Buck Rogers/Season 1/Disk 3B.iso
lrwxrwxrwx    1 admin    administ       48 Dec 18 16:23 Buck.Rogers.in.the.25th.Century.S02E01.iso -> /share/TV Shows/Buck Rogers/Season 2/Disk 4A.iso
lrwxrwxrwx    1 admin    administ       48 Dec 18 16:23 Buck.Rogers.in.the.25th.Century.S02E02.iso -> /share/TV Shows/Buck Rogers/Season 2/Disk 4A.iso
lrwxrwxrwx    1 admin    administ       48 Dec 18 16:23 Buck.Rogers.in.the.25th.Century.S02E03.iso -> /share/TV Shows/Buck Rogers/Season 2/Disk 4A.iso
lrwxrwxrwx    1 admin    administ       48 Dec 18 16:23 Buck.Rogers.in.the.25th.Century.S02E04.iso -> /share/TV Shows/Buck Rogers/Season 2/Disk 4A.iso
lrwxrwxrwx    1 admin    administ       48 Dec 18 16:23 Buck.Rogers.in.the.25th.Century.S02E05.iso -> /share/TV Shows/Buck Rogers/Season 2/Disk 4B.iso
lrwxrwxrwx    1 admin    administ       48 Dec 18 16:23 Buck.Rogers.in.the.25th.Century.S02E06.iso -> /share/TV Shows/Buck Rogers/Season 2/Disk 4B.iso
lrwxrwxrwx    1 admin    administ       48 Dec 18 16:23 Buck.Rogers.in.the.25th.Century.S02E07.iso -> /share/TV Shows/Buck Rogers/Season 2/Disk 4B.iso
lrwxrwxrwx    1 admin    administ       48 Dec 18 16:23 Buck.Rogers.in.the.25th.Century.S02E08.iso -> /share/TV Shows/Buck Rogers/Season 2/Disk 4B.iso
lrwxrwxrwx    1 admin    administ       48 Dec 18 16:23 Buck.Rogers.in.the.25th.Century.S02E09.iso -> /share/TV Shows/Buck Rogers/Season 2/Disk 5A.iso
lrwxrwxrwx    1 admin    administ       48 Dec 18 16:23 Buck.Rogers.in.the.25th.Century.S02E10.iso -> /share/TV Shows/Buck Rogers/Season 2/Disk 5A.iso
lrwxrwxrwx    1 admin    administ       48 Dec 18 16:23 Buck.Rogers.in.the.25th.Century.S02E11.iso -> /share/TV Shows/Buck Rogers/Season 2/Disk 5A.iso
lrwxrwxrwx    1 admin    administ       48 Dec 18 16:23 Buck.Rogers.in.the.25th.Century.S02E12.iso -> /share/TV Shows/Buck Rogers/Season 2/Disk 5A.iso
lrwxrwxrwx    1 admin    administ       48 Dec 18 16:23 Buck.Rogers.in.the.25th.Century.S02E13.iso -> /share/TV Shows/Buck Rogers/Season 2/Disk 5B.iso
In this way, the Boxee THINKS it is seeing a different file per episode (37 episodes), but there's actually only 10 actual files being used.

Also note that this method requires VERY LITTLE space; about 48 bytes per link.

If your server allows for this, it might help you.
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post #3275 of 9564
12/20/10 at 9:41am
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Originally Posted by Bozzeta View Post

First Swedish streaming service for Boxee Box. Only SD-material
http://www.headweb.com/sv/243387

Only Swedish? At the bottom of the page there is a selection of other countries.


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Originally Posted by samukas View Post

Weird that they have decided to hand out the application instead of hosting it on Boxee's repositories or make their own.

The repository is on their own site?


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Originally Posted by WDFan1970 View Post

jmpage2 et al:

Thanks for your help and advice regarding the folder.jpg issue. I did open a JIRA ticket and it was closed as "Ain't Gonna Happen" about 5 hours later.

Yeah, that's what happens to most things. If it is important to you I suggest resubmitting once every month - eventually someone may want to implement it once the current rush is over.


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Originally Posted by jmpage2 View Post

Keep in mind though that one of the big points of Boxee is that you don't have to run media organizer software or meticulously catalog your programs in order for Boxee to figure out what kind of program it is or where it should show up in the library.

Indeed, randomly picking categories and not showing material is really handy


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Originally Posted by realudaman View Post

I would think that it is a design flaw/bug if bb associates all the movie files in the sub-folders with the folder.jpg of the parent folder. Especially since the parent folder does not have any video files.

Not sure if its a bug, but I'd certainly agree with you that its a design flaw.
The file is called FOLDER, so the way the WDTV does it by having it be the image for the FOLDER makes sense, whereas using it as image for a lot of files doesn't.
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post #3276 of 9564
12/20/10 at 10:38am
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Originally Posted by WDFan1970 View Post

No, you can't do that. Each file has to be separate.

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Originally Posted by WDFan1970 View Post

No, you can't do that. Each file has to be separate.

You sure about that? I don't have a Boxee Box to test, but if it's anything like XBMC and TheTVDB, you can do this:

Tv.Show.S01E01-E02.Name.of.the.Show.1.Name.of.the.Show.2

And it'll work just fine, it'll combine the descriptions and titles of the two episodes together and it'll look like one episode.
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post #3277 of 9564
12/20/10 at 10:57am
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Originally Posted by arswhat View Post

Only Swedish? At the bottom of the page there is a selection of other countries.

The repository is on their own site?

It's a Swedish company. It may be available outside nordic countries but I wouldnt know. Try emailing them...
http://www.headweb.com/en/243279/201...nally-in-boxee
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post #3278 of 9564
12/20/10 at 11:03am
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Originally Posted by Philmatic View Post

You sure about that? I don't have a Boxee Box to test, but if it's anything like XBMC and TheTVDB, you can do this:

Tv.Show.S01E01-E02.Name.of.the.Show.1.Name.of.the.Show.2

And it'll work just fine, it'll combine the descriptions and titles of the two episodes together and it'll look like one episode.

I thought he was wanting one FILE to look like MULTIPLE episodes, not merge multiple show data into a single episode.
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post #3279 of 9564
12/20/10 at 11:05am
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Originally Posted by gmd024 View Post

It very well could be - I didn't read it, but I see there's a 5 page thread about "Problematic HD-DVDs - your movies could very well be on the list...

http://www.makemkv.com/forum2/ucp.php?mode=login

Thanks for the link. I checked the thread and couldn't find any mention of Shaun of the Dead. Van Helsing did return some results with regards to errors. Replies indicated that these were fixed though.

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Do you have the matched frame rate option checked? This can cause issues like you described. When I uncheck mine so it has 1080p 60 output it is fine for me.

EDIT: I'm not talking about those specific HD DVDs, just in general the MKVs I created from my HD DVDs

I have the matched frame rate option checked. I'll try unchecking it when I get home. The file did play fine in XBMC Dharma, although I was just playing it through my computer speakers and not my receiver.
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post #3280 of 9564
12/20/10 at 12:38pm
ya, ebay has some good looking prices from a seller with high ratings. I'm hoping to get one
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post #3281 of 9564
12/20/10 at 12:52pm
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by bryn987 View Post

ya, ebay has some good looking prices from a seller with high ratings. I'm hoping to get one

Ya, now we know where all the returns are going. $150 or so is not really that great of a price. I expect that will be retail price on a new one before too long.
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post #3282 of 9564
12/20/10 at 12:59pm
Only reason the prices are so high is because the seller has 1 bidder pushing up the prices on all his units. Think I'll pass on them
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post #3283 of 9564
12/20/10 at 1:26pm
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Originally Posted by WDFan1970 View Post

I thought he was wanting one FILE to look like MULTIPLE episodes, not merge multiple show data into a single episode.

Yeah, that's what that does:

Tv.Show.S01E01-E02.Name.of.the.Show.1.Name.of.the.Show.2.avi

A single file, containing two episodes. This happens when TV Shows get released on DVD and what is actually two episodes (Production-wise and TVDB-wise) gets aired and burned to the DVD as a single double length episode. Friends, ER, Grey's Anatomy all do this, especially for season finales.
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post #3284 of 9564
12/20/10 at 1:31pm
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Originally Posted by Philmatic View Post

Yeah, that's what that does:

Tv.Show.S01E01-E02.Name.of.the.Show.1.Name.of.the.Show.2.avi

A single file, containing two episodes. This happens when TV Shows get released on DVD and what is actually two episodes (Production-wise and TVDB-wise) gets aired and burned to the DVD as a single double length episode. Friends, ER, Grey's Anatomy all do this, especially for season finales.

... but you would NOT do that to put four episodes on a DVD that aren't actually related, right?
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post #3285 of 9564
12/20/10 at 1:40pm
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Originally Posted by bryn987 View Post

Only reason the prices are so high is because the seller has 1 bidder pushing up the prices on all his units. Think I'll pass on them

Regardless of whether this particular seller has an accomplice jacking prices up, I don't feel that a completed listing average price of $125-$135 is that unreasonable. That's an absolute steal considering the Popbox back up to $150 on Amazon, no?

That being said, from a moral standpoint, I was appalled, so i did sent the seller a note, essentially asking them to justify such behavior. The gist was that if they were looking for a minimum selling price, do it the organic way and set a reserve. Perhaps they are afraid that will drive away potential interest?
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post #3286 of 9564
12/20/10 at 1:43pm
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Originally Posted by Philmatic View Post

You sure about that? I don't have a Boxee Box to test, but if it's anything like XBMC and TheTVDB, you can do this:

Tv.Show.S01E01-E02.Name.of.the.Show.1.Name.of.the.Show.2

And it'll work just fine, it'll combine the descriptions and titles of the two episodes together and it'll look like one episode.

Thank you! That answers my question!
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post #3287 of 9564
12/20/10 at 1:52pm
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Originally Posted by jmpage2 View Post
I can't even get one vote for support for auto screen fit for non-anamorphic DVD content, so good luck!
why would I want it to auto stretch/zoom content? No thanks.
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post #3288 of 9564
12/20/10 at 1:52pm
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Originally Posted by oneway23 View Post
Regardless of whether this particular seller has an accomplice jacking prices up, I don't feel that a completed listing average price of $125-$135 is that unreasonable. That's an absolute steal considering the Popbox back up to $150 on Amazon, no?

That being said, from a moral standpoint, I was appalled, so i did sent the seller a note, essentially asking them to justify such behavior. The gist was that if they were looking for a minimum selling price, do it the organic way and set a reserve. Perhaps they are afraid that will drive away potential interest?
I feel the same way in that it is a pretty decent price but his actions are a bit shady. If he had buy it now for that price I would probably be all over it. He is trying to get the best of both worlds though, at least covering his cost and the potential to make more
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post #3289 of 9564
12/20/10 at 1:59pm
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Originally Posted by bryn987 View Post
I feel the same way in that it is a pretty decent price but his actions are a bit shady. If he had buy it now for that price I would probably be all over it. He is trying to get the best of both worlds though, at least covering his cost and the potential to make more
Absolutely...Look, it's a business, and the guy has a right to make money. Is it proper behavior? Certainly not, although I guess if folks are biting while still perceiving a deal, then they're biting. I just wanted to make sure that someone called them out on it, obvious though it may be.
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post #3290 of 9564
12/20/10 at 2:00pm
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Originally Posted by MikeAlletto View Post
why would I want it to auto stretch/zoom content? No thanks.
Because if you have letterboxed content, playing that on a widescreen TV, you will have something like this: http://www.photo-to-dvd.com/images/t...-pillarbox.jpg

Not the best example, but the only one I could find.

I actually asked Eli about this feature, but was told that because video is decoded on hardware this couldn't/wouldn't be done...

I'd gladly vote on it though, just need to know the JIRA link...
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post #3291 of 9564
12/20/10 at 2:05pm
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Originally Posted by WDFan1970 View Post
... but you would NOT do that to put four episodes on a DVD that aren't actually related, right?
No, this is for multiple episodes that are released on DVDs as single episodes (or a "title"), either "downloaded" from scene releases or self-ripped by title instead of disc. In your case, symlinks are a good way to do accomplish what your setup is, a DVD ISO of a season containing about 4-5 episodes.
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post #3292 of 9564
12/20/10 at 2:14pm
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by samukas View Post
Because if you have letterboxed content, playing that on a widescreen TV, you will have something like this: http://www.photo-to-dvd.com/images/t...-pillarbox.jpg

Not the best example, but the only one I could find.

I actually asked Eli about this feature, but was told that because video is decoded on hardware this couldn't/wouldn't be done...

I'd gladly vote on it though, just need to know the JIRA link...
Yes, that's it exactly. I don't think most people understand the issue since DVD players typically handle this automatically in the hardware.

The link to the JIRA request is here;

http://jira.boxee.tv/browse/BOXEE-7518
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post #3293 of 9564
12/20/10 at 3:14pm
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Originally Posted by bryn987 View Post
Only reason the prices are so high is because the seller has 1 bidder pushing up the prices on all his units. Think I'll pass on them
I won two this weekend. I paid too much on my first one because I was in a hurry and not paying attention. The second one I got for much less.
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post #3294 of 9564
12/20/10 at 3:16pm
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Originally Posted by oneway23 View Post
Regardless of whether this particular seller has an accomplice jacking prices up, I don't feel that a completed listing average price of $125-$135 is that unreasonable. That's an absolute steal considering the Popbox back up to $150 on Amazon, no?

That being said, from a moral standpoint, I was appalled, so i did sent the seller a note, essentially asking them to justify such behavior. The gist was that if they were looking for a minimum selling price, do it the organic way and set a reserve. Perhaps they are afraid that will drive away potential interest?
One of their first auctions started around $155 with a Buy it Now price of $175. it didn't sell. Then their auctions started at one cent.
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post #3295 of 9564
12/20/10 at 3:29pm
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Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post
One of their first auctions started around $155 with a Buy it Now price of $175. it didn't sell. Then their auctions started at one cent.
The way I see it, if they don't sell, they don't sell. That's the risk one takes on an auction site. I know there are myriad ways to game the system, and again, I know the guy is just looking to cover his business, but there are more honest ways of conducting the deal than to artificially raise prices.

That said, the price is still so enticing, i may end up with one yet. Just waiting until year's end, as I stated earlier.
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post #3296 of 9564
12/20/10 at 3:31pm
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by oneway23 View Post
The way I see it, if they don't sell, they don't sell. That's the risk one takes on an auction site. I know there are myriad ways to game the system, and again, I know the guy is just looking to cover his business, but there are more honest ways of conducting the deal than to artificially raise prices.

That said, the price is still so enticing, i may end up with one yet. Just waiting until year's end, as I stated earlier.
eBay has a very strict policy about shilling on auctions, if there is a shilling pattern involved they will suspend the seller's account or take other action. However this only works if someone takes the time to report the auctions to eBay.
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post #3297 of 9564
12/20/10 at 3:38pm
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Originally Posted by jmpage2 View Post
eBay has a very strict policy about shilling on auctions, if there is a shilling pattern involved they will suspend the seller's account or take other action. However this only works if someone takes the time to report the auctions to eBay.
Well, the "jacker", if I might call them that, has placed over 60 bids on this guy's Boxee Boxes over the past 24 hours, with 98% of their bid activity over the past 30 days going to this seller. hopefully, ebay is getting notification.
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post #3298 of 9564
12/20/10 at 3:44pm
didn't see this posted, sorry if i missed it: 5 questions with avner
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post #3299 of 9564
12/20/10 at 3:45pm
he let the last one sell for $122. Not too shabby of a price with shipping only $10

I wonder where this seller got them all from as he has a ton for sale as open box
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post #3300 of 9564
12/20/10 at 3:59pm
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Originally Posted by WDFan1970 View Post
But to your original statement re: testing folder.png, yes, I'm willing to try this
For the benefit of people searching:

Using folder.png for the WDTV LIVE does NOT appear to influence the Boxee Box in any way.

I re-formatted my JPGs as PNGs instead, and all of the problems I described above are GONE.

Again, jmpage2, ph8te, an others: Thanks for your patience and for guiding me down the road!
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