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post #4861 of 9676
Speaking of premium content,

"Boxee names Viewster as first VOD provider"

Viewster, of which I have heard nothing ever - seems to be located in Switzerland, so perhaps some European netflix type.

http://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2011/...-vod-provider/
post #4862 of 9676
Viewster was apparently tested as "DIVA TV" since the company running it is named Diva AG, i read this claim:


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DIVA controls an extensive catalogue of classic and current Hollywood movies and award-winning independent films and TV series, adding action, comedy, thriller and other popular genre new release movies (along with further TV series) on a continuous basis. The company refreshes some 20 percent of its catalogue each year, with each title being offered for at least 3 months, promising a consistently varied and exciting choice of viewing for Vestel customers.

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post #4863 of 9676
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Originally Posted by cbohlman View Post

For the life of me i can't get House to show in the Tv Show section. I can find it under files. When browsing under files it you press "more" after selecting a episode. It shows all episodes with meta data like everything else. It just never shows up in the TV Show section.

This is the only tv show not showing up. Is this working for anybody else?

Other wise the c-200 is getting used less and less......so its getting better.

Im able to get house to show up under tv shows. I name it like this House S01E01. I cant seem to get the latest episode of the office to show up correctly it gets identified as classy christmas (2)
post #4864 of 9676
So i went ahead and tried using MakeMKV to burn smokin aces. When I did it with magic dvd ripper to mpg it has the name as smokin aces and works fine in boxee. When I did it as Mkv it doesn't identify the file. I must be missing something I also though these would be smaller files. It is still almost 5 gb
post #4865 of 9676
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Originally Posted by Ph8te View Post

Did u check the web server settings? Often with.media player updates the settings will be reset. I would guess this is what happened to you.


First thing I checked but no luck.
post #4866 of 9676
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Originally Posted by arswhat View Post

Probably a requirement to have their "premium content"

Yup, MS and Sony "strongly encourage" updating but don't ram it down your throat like BB.

Also, since the update I'm having hdmi handshaking issues. (Red Screen of Death)

I went from being happy with what it did to being a dissatisfied customer.
post #4867 of 9676
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Originally Posted by cbohlman View Post

For the life of me i can't get House to show in the Tv Show section.

Have you tried naming like below?

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Originally Posted by dyevin View Post

my house eps are named 'House.S01E01.mkv' and get picked up fine.

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Originally Posted by mbryanr View Post

Every "House" episode uses this naming structure (which I follow for other series as well):

House MD.S02E12.mkv
post #4868 of 9676
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Originally Posted by undersinjake View Post

So i went ahead and tried using MakeMKV to burn smokin aces. When I did it with magic dvd ripper to mpg it has the name as smokin aces and works fine in boxee. When I did it as Mkv it doesn't identify the file. I must be missing something I also though these would be smaller files. It is still almost 5 gb

MakeMKV names the file as "title0.mkv or "Disc_1_Name_of Movie.mkv" or something similar)

You have to rename the file and rescan the source. MakMKV does not transcode, just extract the m2ts and put it in a mkv container. It should be close to the same size as the original disc, dependent on tracks selected.
post #4869 of 9676
I don't understand why boxee doesn't identify some of my files.
I have a name.nfo and a folder.jog for those files, the file HD-U2 Vertigo Tour-Live From Chicago.avi has the HD-U2 Vertigo Tour-Live From .nfo file http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0488664/

other is HD-U2 360 Degrees at the Rose Bowl.mkv and the HD-U2 360 Degrees at the Rose Bowl.nfo is http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1694546/

Can someone help? I have 27 files to identify.
post #4870 of 9676
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Originally Posted by arswhat View Post
Speaking of premium content,

"Boxee names Viewster as first VOD provider"

Viewster, of which I have heard nothing ever - seems to be located in Switzerland, so perhaps some European netflix type.

http://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2011/...-vod-provider/
Acccording to this article Viewster has single purchase as well as subscription options too. If we will have these choices in the US too it sounds like this could be a very good deal. The more choices the better.

http://thenewtvrepublic.com/2011/01/...r-partnership/
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Boxee strengthens its international VOD with Viewster partnership
Friday, January 21, 2011
Viewster, a premium digital movie and TV service, has been announced as the first global provider of premium video on demand (VOD) content for Boxee. This comes on the heels of the US only release of the VUDU VOD services for Boxee Box owners (VUDU has been available on desktop versions of Boxee for several months). Andrew Kippen, VP of Marketing at Boxee tells us, “While we have our strongest audience here in the United States, Boxee is in use all over the world and we’re doing everything we can to bring add more content both here and abroad. Our partnership with Viewster will allow us to quickly ramp up a strong VOD content offering outside of the US, particularly in Europe where we are seeing a lot of growth since D-link’s release of the Boxee Box there in November.”

We don’t have any information on pricing on Boxee, but Viewster currently provides both single purchase and subscription plans. Single purchase titles start at 2,99€ (roughly $4.00 USD) and subscriptions range from 7,99€ and 12,99 (approximately $10 – $18 USD). Their library includes classic and current Hollywood movies and award-winning independent films and TV series. DIVA AG, Viewster’s parent company, also add that “wherever possible, consumers using Viewster through Boxee will be able to view day and date releases and free, advertising supported content.” No word yet on when it will be available or in which countries, we’ll update as we have more information.
post #4871 of 9676
The waf watched a streamed kids movie using our free credit. All by themselves, and was easy. No buffeting, nice quality even in sd. My wife decided kids didn't need hd. Good call!
post #4872 of 9676
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Originally Posted by Kocl View Post
I don't understand why boxee doesn't identify some of my files.
I have a name.nfo and a folder.jog for those files, the file HD-U2 Vertigo Tour-Live From Chicago.avi has the HD-U2 Vertigo Tour-Live From .nfo file http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0488664/

other is HD-U2 360 Degrees at the Rose Bowl.mkv and the HD-U2 360 Degrees at the Rose Bowl.nfo is http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1694546/

Can someone help? I have 27 files to identify.
Boxee will refuse to identify any IMDB listing marked as (V) or (Video). Unfortunately there's currently no way to force Boxee to identify those files. It treats them a separate class from movies and TV shows.

I have one that if I force to manually identify it finds it on IMDB successfully, but still won't put it in the movie section. Not even if I give it an NFO file with a direct IMDB link.

Clearly there needs to be some improvement in this area.
post #4873 of 9676
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Originally Posted by Gizmotoy

Boxee will refuse to identify any IMDB listing marked as (V) or (Video). Unfortunately there's currently no way to force Boxee to identify those files. It treats them a separate class from movies and TV shows.

I have one that if I force to manually identify it finds it on IMDB successfully, but still won't put it in the movie section. Not even if I give it an NFO file with a direct IMDB link.

Clearly there needs to be some improvement in this area.
Are you sure that's always the case? I have several titles from DC Comics and Marvel that are direct-to-video movies (like Superman Doomsday) and I'm pretty sure they're all marked V or Video on IMDB, but they are all identified successfully. I do have some concert DVDs marked video in IMDB that have never been identified, though.
post #4874 of 9676
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Originally Posted by Gizmotoy View Post
Boxee will refuse to identify any IMDB listing marked as (V) or (Video). Unfortunately there's currently no way to force Boxee to identify those files. It treats them a separate class from movies and TV shows.

I have one that if I force to manually identify it finds it on IMDB successfully, but still won't put it in the movie section. Not even if I give it an NFO file with a direct IMDB link.

Clearly there needs to be some improvement in this area.
I don't think is only a question of beeing marked as video, because boxee identify this "Madonna: The Immaculate Collection (Video 1990) "

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0500162/
post #4875 of 9676
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Originally Posted by Izzy_Deadyet View Post

Yup, MS and Sony "strongly encourage" updating but don't ram it down your throat like BB.

If that is the case then they can't offer the same material as BB - if its a demand its a demand.


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Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post

Acccording to this article Viewster has single purchase as well as subscription options too. If we will have these choices in the US too it sounds like this could be a very good deal. The more choices the better.

http://thenewtvrepublic.com/2011/01/...r-partnership/

Yeah, I read this is apparently a worldwide system, so not just Europe but also the US should be able to get it. Of course exactly what it is we all could be getting is still unknown since you can only browse their stuff from an app, and we haven't got one.

But as you more choices are probably a good thing (as long as it doesn't slow down the programmers from the really important stuff like fan art )
post #4876 of 9676
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Originally Posted by mbryanr View Post

Have you tried naming like below?

I've tried:

House S01E01.mkv

House.S01E01.mkv

House MD.S01E01.mkv

When i go an identify its as House in the GUI it still does nothing.

Out of 78 TV series and 5086 episodes this is the only one that doesn't show.
(Well that and the cover for Glory Daze doesn't show)
post #4877 of 9676
I was wondering if anyone has tried EyeconTroller with Boxee?? It's a UPnP/DLNA media manager I've been using on my Droid for my Popcorn-Hour, am thinking of getting a Boxee Box but would hate to give up Eyecon.
Any ideas?

(Um if you're not familiar: eyecontec.com)
post #4878 of 9676
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by cbohlman View Post

I've tried:

House S01E01.mkv

House.S01E01.mkv

House MD.S01E01.mkv

When i go an identify its as House in the GUI it still does nothing.

Out of 78 TV series and 5086 episodes this is the only one that doesn't show.
(Well that and the cover for Glory Daze doesn't show)

The problem with house is that if you do a search for "house" on TVDB or IMDB you will get about 100 matches.

Hopefully this will be remedied soon via local info file support for TV series which either let you provide your own description and fan art, or allow you to point Boxee directly at the TVDB or IMDB show listing.
post #4879 of 9676
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Originally Posted by arswhat View Post

If that is the case then they can't offer the same material as BB - if its a demand its a demand.

True, MS and Sony both require you to take updates if you want Netflix Canada (Canadian) but it's up to the console owner not the console seller.

If I don't want Netflix, which I don't, I just don't update the console, which I didn't for either the 360 or PS3.

BB "insists" on the update which happened to reduce the ability of my BB to do what I want it to do. If I decide that I don't want Netflix, VUDU etc .. then it should be up to me, the person that paid for the hardware to decide if I want an update or not.

I can't think of any other mfg. of any other equipment I own "forcing" me to upgrade it. My Smartphone, Car, Computers, Game Consoles, HDTV, Receivers, no forced updates/upgrades.

Simply state that "The upgrade is required if you want to enable VUDU"
post #4880 of 9676
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Originally Posted by cbohlman View Post

I've tried:

House S01E01.mkv

House.S01E01.mkv

House MD.S01E01.mkv

When i go an identify its as House in the GUI it still does nothing.

Out of 78 TV series and 5086 episodes this is the only one that doesn't show.
(Well that and the cover for Glory Daze doesn't show)

Good to know I'm not the only one - I've tried multiple naming conventions as well. I have 22 series & House is the only one that doesn't show in the library.

***Shortly after posting this, I reset boxee settings & rescanned. now house shows up. Maybe you have to complain 2x in posts here before it works again.
post #4881 of 9676
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Originally Posted by Izzy_Deadyet View Post

I can't think of any other mfg. of any other equipment I own "forcing" me to upgrade it. My Smartphone, Car, Computers, Game Consoles, HDTV, Receivers, no forced updates/upgrades.

Simply state that "The upgrade is required if you want to enable VUDU"

Temporary solution would be to block Boxees update server in your router.
post #4882 of 9676
Thread Starter 
I agree, if the automatic updates really bother you, then block Boxee IP from communicating with the boxee update server, this is not too hard to figure out.

Perhaps in the future Boxee can have separate firmware for NAR and other regions of the world, but the content partners will absolutely require them to have automatic/forced updates, otherwise as soon as the box gets hacked then Netflix, etc, start to freak out.
post #4883 of 9676
It will get hacked regardless, if there is a reason / motivation to.
post #4884 of 9676
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Originally Posted by Izzy_Deadyet View Post

True, MS and Sony both require you to take updates if you want Netflix Canada (Canadian) but it's up to the console owner not the console seller.

I don't know what products you are talking about, if but its a choice they must be inferior products. (And of course the PS3 has a reputation as something unsure which is hackable, so they might not be able to get some items in the future)

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Originally Posted by Izzy_Deadyet View Post

If I don't want Netflix, which I don't, I just don't update the console, which I didn't for either the 360 or PS3.

Ah those.

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Originally Posted by Izzy_Deadyet View Post

BB "insists" on the update which happened to reduce the ability of my BB to do what I want it to do. If I decide that I don't want Netflix, VUDU etc .. then it should be up to me, the person that paid for the hardware to decide if I want an update or not.

I can't think of any other mfg. of any other equipment I own "forcing" me to upgrade it. My Smartphone, Car, Computers, Game Consoles, HDTV, Receivers, no forced updates/upgrades.

Simply state that "The upgrade is required if you want to enable VUDU"

Well, the design of those two consoles is probably difference (or force is coming, they are constantly cutting down on the PS3s ability I understand)

BUT that is not how the Boxee Box is working, it is one firmware image, its not made up of a lot of different bits and pieces just to placate the paranoid. Its not about updating Vudo, its about updating the entire system (call it OS if that makes it clearer) Its not just some app updated (the app requires routines in firmware). This firmware adds other features and fixes bugs as well. As will each firmware update, it would take a ton of work and possible many more people to reprogram a jigsaw system where bits and pieces could be upgraded and others not. It will not happen. There is no reason not to upgrade, if something doesn't work now that is clearly a bug which we should expect to be fixed.

What we and you shouldn't expect is to avoid upgrades, if its a big problem for you you should probably get rid of the box.


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Originally Posted by Bozzeta View Post

Temporary solution would be to block Boxees update server in your router.

Long term solution is to gazelle it
post #4885 of 9676
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Originally Posted by high_definitely View Post

It will get hacked regardless, if there is a reason / motivation to.

Yeah, but if it requires people to open the box and start resoldering then that is going to cut down on leaks.
post #4886 of 9676
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Originally Posted by arswhat View Post

There is no reason not to upgrade, if something doesn't work now that is clearly a bug which we should expect to be fixed.

What we and you shouldn't expect is to avoid upgrades, if its a big problem for you you should probably get rid of the box.

We have already encountered features that were working in one version and broken in the next. Extensive regression testing would have caught them were it being done, so there's no telling when any given feature you may rely on is broken by an update.

Clearly, that is a very good reason not to upgrade, and an entirely plausible one at this point.
post #4887 of 9676
That happens with any device. An update can have effects not foreseen. It's imposssible to test everything. It's happened with many devices even from huge sellers like the Xbox360 and PS3.
post #4888 of 9676
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Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post

That happens with any device. An update can have effects not foreseen. It's imposssible to test everything. It's happened with many devices even from huge sellers like the Xbox360 and PS3.

Yes, exactly, which is why none of those devices forces updates...

Imagine if the 2.40 PS3 update was forced out to all consoles (if you're not familiar, it bricked a large % of the PS3s it was applied to, requiring those units be shipped to Sony for service or to have the user reformat their drive and lose all their game saves).

The claims are that the premium content providers require this, but the PS3 has Netflix, VUDU, and Hulu Plus and doesn't force upgrades. I don't think we can blame it on them for certain.
post #4889 of 9676
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Originally Posted by Gizmotoy View Post

We have already encountered features that were working in one version and broken in the next. Extensive regression testing would have caught them were it being done, so there's no telling when any given feature you may rely on is broken by an update.

Clearly, that is a very good reason not to upgrade, and an entirely plausible one at this point.

Thank-you. This is the only point I was trying to make
post #4890 of 9676
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Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post

That happens with any device. An update can have effects not foreseen. It's imposssible to test everything. It's happened with many devices even from huge sellers like the Xbox360 and PS3.

Sure, but I don't get forced to take an update.

If there is a PS3 or 360 update I'm thinking about taking I wait until "others" have done it first, wait a week and then check the forums for problems. With BB I'm not given that opportunity.

Never be first, Pioneers get killed alot.
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