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post #6031 of 9676
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Originally Posted by Chuck_IV View Post
So when you see say a scrolling view or even a pitch to the plate, it looks completely smooth? When I see it, I can see the skips in the movement. I don;t see that on my Samsung(can't use my PS3 yet until they update the app).
Correct - I was worried about what it would be like for me, because I sometimes have trouble with Vudu due to some inconsistency with my connection, but MLB has been great so far.
post #6032 of 9676
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Originally Posted by ptsenter View Post

After loosing my beloved Boxee I've been in a desperate need of some laugh.
Thank you very much.
Why is using a UPS funny? Whether it's subwoofers, receivers, TVs, alarm clocks, cordless telephones, router, ONT, Ethernet Switches, Boxee Boxes, TiVos, PCs, etc. Any electronic device I have is connected to a UPS. We have too many power surges and brownouts during the year for me to risk any of my electronics. Many of my neighbors have devices that end up dead from the surges and brownouts. I have lost a few lamps to them which I do not put on a UPS.
So I'm protected from the surges and brownouts and when the power goes out completely I can continue using the devices like I normally do for anywhere from 2 hours to 19 hours depending on the UPS and the components I have connected.
If I were able, I would have a whole house UPS. But I live in a condo so that is not an option for me.
post #6033 of 9676
Looks like the scraping when for a fix recently ( or with the past release). Lots of my movies that showed up earlier do not show up even after a re-scan. US and international movies, all there on IMDB. I have browse to them manually and identify them and then they show-up under movies.
Has anyone else experienced this too?
post #6034 of 9676
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Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post

Why is using a UPS funny?

it probably depends on where you live. I have none, and in 15 years I've lost power once or twice.
post #6035 of 9676
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Originally Posted by arswhat View Post

it probably depends on where you live. I have none, and in 15 years I've lost power once or twice.

It only takes once or twice to loose something non-retrievable during a power outage including hardware -- I also live in an area that hardly even sees power outages - I can't remember the last one, but oddly enough there was a power 'blink' this morning (actually two quick blinks) -- it happened so fast that about the only reason I knew it happened is because I heard my UPS click a couple times - I didn't really have anything going on that would have been a disaster if the UPS wasen't being used - but just the same, my modem, router, Gb switch PC and monitor never even flickered -

I also have a residence in a very rural, forested area where wind, rain, snow and downed tree branches cause frequent but usually short term blinks and outages - I only have access to satelite internet there and keep IP surviellance cams running and will send me an email/SMS message if they detect a heat source inside the house (very sensative, detected a bat a few weeks ago) - but I have 3 large UPS devices there to keep the sat. modem, router, IP cams and a PC running to record video of possible intruders - many times when I go there the clocks are all blinking because of a power glitch - but not once have I lost connection to the internt/network/IP cams

Hail to the UPS
post #6036 of 9676
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Originally Posted by gmd024 View Post

It only takes once or twice to lose something non-retrievable during a power outage including hardware -- I also live in an area that hardly even sees power outages - I can't remember the last one, but oddly enough there was a power 'blink' this morning (actually two quick blinks) -- it happened so fast that about the only reason I knew it happened is because I heard my UPS click a couple times - I didn't really have anything going on that would have been a disaster if the UPS wasn't being used - but just the same, my modem, router, Gbit switch PC and monitor never even flickered -

I get those power "dips" (what you call a 'blink') every 6-7 minutes or so.

The scary thing is that I am within the Los Angeles city limits. One time the floating ground from my nearby power pole snapped off in a storm; luckily I noticed it the next day and had LA DWP come out and fix it. To me surprise, it did not fix this cyclical power dip issue.

I have one UPS that has an LCD display showing the current, and when it happens, the number goes down by like 8 volts (e.g. right now it reads 115; during a "dip" it will drop to 107 or 108, and then come back up to 115 immediately) and my bathroom lights flicker. My battery-backed up UPS for my Home Theater makes an audible buzz when it happens.

In short, always hook your Boxee® Box - and any computer/Home Theater gear - to a UPS.
post #6037 of 9676
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Originally Posted by gmd024 View Post


I also have a residence in a very rural, forested area where wind, rain, snow and downed tree branches cause frequent but usually short term blinks and outages

Eeek, the boondocks!

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Hail to the UPS

Clearly internet is vitally important, clever of you to prepare
post #6038 of 9676
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Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post

Why is using a UPS funny? Whether it's subwoofers, receivers, TVs, alarm clocks, cordless telephones, router, ONT, Ethernet Switches, Boxee Boxes, TiVos, PCs, etc. Any electronic device I have is connected to a UPS. We have too many power surges and brownouts during the year for me to risk any of my electronics. Many of my neighbors have devices that end up dead from the surges and brownouts. I have lost a few lamps to them which I do not put on a UPS.
So I'm protected from the surges and brownouts and when the power goes out completely I can continue using the devices like I normally do for anywhere from 2 hours to 19 hours depending on the UPS and the components I have connected.
If I were able, I would have a whole house UPS. But I live in a condo so that is not an option for me.

im guessing he doesnt know what it is. Probably thinks it's some kind of power conditioner.
post #6039 of 9676
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Originally Posted by zero the hero View Post

im guessing he doesnt know what it is. Probably thinks it's some kind of power conditioner.

UPS
Sure I know: We love logistics
post #6040 of 9676
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Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post

Why is using a UPS funny?

UPS ("uninterruptible power supply" - just in case someone is in doubt I know what is it) is your insurance and should be treated as such.
In case one is afraid to loose important information, needs 24/7 operation, e.g., to watch bats, or has a substantial value, monetary and/or sentimental, then s/he needs UPS.
One needs to evaluate cost-benefit - you don't buy full-coverage insurance for $2000 value truck, only liability, you don't buy earth-quake insurance in La and flood in Ca.

Yes, it is funny in this particular case.
post #6041 of 9676
Thread Starter 
I think it's funny we are spending days discussing power conditioning and backup power in the Boxee thread all because one guy had his Boxee get nuked by a power hit.
post #6042 of 9676
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Originally Posted by jmpage2 View Post

I think it's funny we are spending days discussing power conditioning and backup power in the Boxee thread all because one guy had his Boxee get nuked by a power hit.

Exactly, it's going on and on and on and on ... and life goes by.
post #6043 of 9676
Under movies BB would just show the list of files (not necessary in the right order) and play the selected one and stop. Subtitles might look funny.
Under files however, playing the video_ts.ifo file would play all the .vob files with correct font/background for subtitles.
Why cannot boxee show by default the video_ts.ifo file under movies when it exists?
post #6044 of 9676
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Originally Posted by arswhat View Post

it probably depends on where you live. I have none, and in 15 years I've lost power once or twice.

I do much worse than that, at least 4 per year.

I would add/ask though, how many spikes have you had over the years that you may not be aware of? The APC on the computer reports them fairly often and switches to the UPS for a second or 2. I know when it's happening from the sound of 3 UPS's clicking away
post #6045 of 9676
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Originally Posted by jmpage2 View Post

I think it's funny we are spending days discussing power conditioning and backup power in the Boxee thread all because one guy had his Boxee get nuked by a power hit.

Well, we are waiting for a new patch!

We could talk about how Netflix is now apparently having a new series with Kevin Spacey made specifically and directly for them ie, no cinema, no TV - first on an internet network.
post #6046 of 9676
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Originally Posted by ptsenter View Post

UPS ("uninterruptible power supply" - just in case someone is in doubt I know what is it) is your insurance and should be treated as such.
In case one is afraid to loose important information, needs 24/7 operation, e.g., to watch bats, or has a substantial value, monetary and/or sentimental, then s/he needs UPS.
One needs to evaluate cost-benefit – you don’t buy full-coverage insurance for $2000 value truck, only liability, you don’t buy earth-quake insurance in La and flood in Ca.

Yes, it is funny in this particular case.

Sure you do. Flood insurance is much cheaper in places where it doesn't happen as often as well as earthquakes. It doesn't mean it will never happen. CA has had floods and LA has had earthquakes. And if the cost is minimal, why not be protected. It happens all the time that people don't get the insurance, even though it's cheap. Then they have an event that happens once or twice every 100 years and they lose everything since they are not covered. Yet if they had only paid a few dollars a month they would have been covered.

IN 1995 there was a tornado that went through my girlfriends development. This is a rare event. Several homeowners did not have tornado insurance even though it was very inexpensive to add to their policy at the time. So instead, they lost their homes. Their homes were condemned and the insurance of course did not cover it since they did not pay the small amount for the coverage.
I know a couple of them went bankrupt from this. All because they did not pay the few extra dollars for coverage.
Of course after all the insurance losses later in the 90's I don't even think you can get tornado insurance any more there. I know I can't from my insurance company any more.

The same applies to a car. My oldest car is almost thirteen years old. The liabilty insurance is what is expensive. For literally, only a few dollars extra a month I'm covered from other things. Which came in handy when a rock hit my windshield. If I had not paid the few extra dollars a month I would have had to pay several hundred dollars out of pocket to have it replaced.

And back to the UPS. One time in the 90's I was updating the BIOS on one of my motherboards. I did not use a UPS when doing this and the power went out during the process. I had to order another BIOS chip because of that. And since then I do not take any chances. I'll bring a UPS with me when working on PCs at other locations and if I'm taking one of my devices with me, I also like to have something to protect it.
I see too many people with devices that have died because they were not using a UPS. Even though the risk is slim, I would rather be protected since the cost is minimal to do so.

And back to Boxee, I really hope HULU+ shows up soon. Also have there been any great deals on the Boxee Box units? I still would like to get one to keep at my girlfriends. I either need to get it soon or order the extra power supply from Dlink so I don't have to keep taking it with me for the unit I have been taking over to my girlfriends house when visiting.
post #6047 of 9676
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Originally Posted by arswhat View Post

Well, we are waiting for a new patch!

We could talk about how Netflix is now apparently having a new series with Kevin Spacey made specifically and directly for them ie, no cinema, no TV - first on an internet network.

Exciting eh.... The show was not made for them but was being shopped around and evidently netflix was the highest bidder.

DirecTV has also been getting into the content business as well.

Certainly exciting times as a consumer.

Sean
post #6048 of 9676
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Originally Posted by arswhat View Post

We could talk about how Netflix is now apparently having a new series with Kevin Spacey made specifically and directly for them ie, no cinema, no TV - first on an internet network.

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Originally Posted by sean_w_smith View Post

Exciting eh.... The show was not made for them but was being shopped around and evidently netflix was the highest bidder.

What show are you talking about?
post #6049 of 9676
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Originally Posted by ptsenter View Post

What show are you talking about?

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...433339214.html

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.................................Netflix isn't just a video-streaming service where you can watch all of your shows on-demand: the company is looking to possibly acquire an original television show. According to web reports, Kevin Spacey might now appear on your screen under a Netflix-owned production.

It's rumored that Netflix is looking to buy “House of Cards,” an original show produced by The Social Network's David Fincher. Kevin Spacey, of course, would star. The whole deal would be estimated to be around $100 million.

The television show would be 26 episodes spread over the course of two seasons. It is based off a political thriller novel and BBC miniseries of the same name...........................



Read more: http://techland.time.com/2011/03/16/...#ixzz1GlIgo75s...................................
post #6050 of 9676
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Originally Posted by ptsenter View Post

UPS ("uninterruptible power supply" - just in case someone is in doubt I know what is it) is your insurance and should be treated as such.
In case one is afraid to loose important information, needs 24/7 operation, e.g., to watch bats, or has a substantial value, monetary and/or sentimental, then s/he needs UPS.
One needs to evaluate cost-benefit – you don’t buy full-coverage insurance for $2000 value truck, only liability, you don’t buy earth-quake insurance in La and flood in Ca.

Yes, it is funny in this particular case.

lol - man my UPS was under $50 at Staples - before any coupons! Come on...

edit - I should add that in my neighborhood the power goes out fairly often for short periods, and the UPS' have helped keep the PC from rebooting (where my Ceton cablecard tuner lives) and helps protect the Boxee from brownouts/reboots. Its not there to keep it running for long periods, and wouldnt be that useful in other cases...
post #6051 of 9676
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Originally Posted by met_fan View Post

Correct - I was worried about what it would be like for me, because I sometimes have trouble with Vudu due to some inconsistency with my connection, but MLB has been great so far.

Well, I dunno why your's looks so good, but mine is not very good at all. I did another test last night with the Samsung BD-C6900 and then hooked the Boxee to the same connection. The Samsung was nice and smooth, like watching regular TV. The Boxee was juddery. You could see the jumping of the sceen especially in the fast moving/panning camera shots. All movement felt/looked very mechanical, like it was skipping a frame every second or so.
post #6052 of 9676
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Chuck_IV View Post

Well, I dunno why your's looks so good, but mine is not very good at all. I did another test last night with the Samsung BD-C6900 and then hooked the Boxee to the same connection. The Samsung was nice and smooth, like watching regular TV. The Boxee was juddery. You could see the jumping of the sceen especially in the fast moving/panning camera shots. All movement felt/looked very mechanical, like it was skipping a frame every second or so.

Only with this particular application or with all content? With my own content I have observed the 60fps conversion of my 24P content to be very good from the Boxee Box.

I will have a 24P TV by the summer and hopefully they will by then have worked out most of the issues with 24P display.
post #6053 of 9676
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Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post

Sure you do. Flood insurance is much cheaper in places where it doesn't happen as often as well as earthquakes. It doesn't mean it will never happen. CA has had floods and LA has had earthquakes. And if the cost is minimal, why not be protected. It happens all the time that people don't get the insurance, even though it's cheap. Then they have an event that happens once or twice every 100 years and they lose everything since they are not covered. Yet if they had only paid a few dollars a month they would have been covered.

IN 1995 there was a tornado that went through my girlfriends development. This is a rare event. Several homeowners did not have tornado insurance even though it was very inexpensive to add to their policy at the time. So instead, they lost their homes. Their homes were condemned and the insurance of course did not cover it since they did not pay the small amount for the coverage.
I know a couple of them went bankrupt from this. All because they did not pay the few extra dollars for coverage.
Of course after all the insurance losses later in the 90's I don't even think you can get tornado insurance any more there. I know I can't from my insurance company any more.

The same applies to a car. My oldest car is almost thirteen years old. The liabilty insurance is what is expensive. For literally, only a few dollars extra a month I'm covered from other things. Which came in handy when a rock hit my windshield. If I had not paid the few extra dollars a month I would have had to pay several hundred dollars out of pocket to have it replaced.

Excellent cost-benefit analysis.
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And back to the UPS. One time in the 90's I was updating the BIOS on one of my motherboards. I did not use a UPS when doing this and the power went out during the process. I had to order another BIOS chip because of that. And since then I do not take any chances. I'll bring a UPS with me when working on PCs at other locations and if I'm taking one of my devices with me, I also like to have something to protect it.
I see too many people with devices that have died because they were not using a UPS. Even though the risk is slim, I would rather be protected since the cost is minimal to do so.

You have your priorities straightened up.
UPS?
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And back to Boxee, I really hope HULU+ shows up soon.

I have Hulu available for all my devices today, regardless if it's embedded or not. And free.
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Also have there been any great deals on the Boxee Box units? I still would like to get one to keep at my girlfriends. I either need to get it soon or order the extra power supply from Dlink so I don't have to keep taking it with me for the unit I have been taking over to my girlfriends house when visiting.

Unfortunately, I can't help you with that.
post #6054 of 9676
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Originally Posted by jmpage2 View Post

You love your Boxee but are ready to throw the towel in after one problem?

One? Let’s see:
- remote: RF – not HT friendly, no transport buttons, keys hard to read;
- shape: ridiculous – geared toward children, not HT friendly;
- scrapping worked yesterday, but not today;
- crackling sounds;
- inconsistency of video quality;
- wireless connection unstable;
- susceptible to simple power blips.
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Maybe the unit is simply defective.

Maybe, but then it deserves a defenestration.
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Over-react much?

For you – maybe, for me – just right.
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One of my PS3 units died once, but instead of going on and on about how poor Sony engineering is I just got it replaced, life goes on.

Actually I believe PS3 is an example of an excellent engineering – to be able to keep this device afloat for so long today is a feat.
Since when one post is “going on and on”?
P.S. I have no affiliation with Sony, hate it and don’t buy their products.
post #6055 of 9676
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.............I have Hulu available for all my devices today, regardless if it's embedded or not. And free.

Is that from PlayON? If so isn't it still SD? I have it , but when I tried it on the Boxee Box a couple of weeks ago it was still only SD content.
post #6056 of 9676
What is the advantage to spending the extra money on a Boxee Box vs. just getting a Roku?

Here is a comparison of the two:
http://www.rokureview.net/digital-video-player/

Roku is so much cheaper. Do you guys use the extra features of Boxee? Are they really worth the extra cost?
post #6057 of 9676
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by trhebig View Post

What is the advantage to spending the extra money on a Boxee Box vs. just getting a Roku?

Here is a comparison of the two:
http://www.rokureview.net/digital-video-player/

Roku is so much cheaper. Do you guys use the extra features of Boxee? Are they really worth the extra cost?

The Roku is primarily aimed at users who don't watch a lot of local content.

Local content, especially full BD rips, is something the Boxee does that the Roku cannot.
post #6058 of 9676
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Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post

Is that from PlayON? If so isn't it still SD? I have it , but when I tried it on the Boxee Box a couple of weeks ago it was still only SD content.

I believe that's correct. I love free lunch.
post #6059 of 9676
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Originally Posted by sean_w_smith View Post

Exciting eh.... The show was not made for them but was being shopped around and evidently netflix was the highest bidder.

Well if it hasn't been made, won't be shown anywhere else first and is made because they pay, I'd say it was/will be made for them.

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Originally Posted by sean_w_smith View Post

DirecTV has also been getting into the content business as well.

Certainly exciting times as a consumer.

And Youtube has also bought a few production companies.
Now if only they can start breaking down the old archaic country boundaries and start offering this all over the world.
post #6060 of 9676
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What is the advantage to spending the extra money on a Boxee Box vs. just getting a Roku?

Boxee Box is much better at handling local content, like .mkv's, that you have stored on your network.

Boxee Box also has a LOT more apps, including an app that is so incredibly fanstastic it's almost worth the Boxee Box for this one app (some of you know which one I'm referring to.)

And of course, Boxee Box has some really nice social networking features.
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