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post #9241 of 9676
I just bought the boxee box for my bedroom,Is there anyway i can store my movie metadata on a USB stick?
post #9242 of 9676
Unfortunately no. I asked them directly about this and was told that is what the NFO support is for. It's like arguing with a goat, they'll never get it.
post #9243 of 9676
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Originally Posted by jmpage2 View Post

Why don't you rent a title and find out for yourself?

Today I connected the boxee to my 3da-1 adapter which is connected direct hdmi to the tv, to see if I could play a Vudu 3d movie. The Vudu app didn't recognize my tv as a 3d tv so it wouldn't allow 3d content. (I can play 3d blu-ray and 3d vudu with my PS3 using the adapter so it must be either the Vudu app or the boxee). Hope a future boxee update will address this, I would like to start backing up some 3d discs.

UPDATE

Nevermind, I tried again today and happy to report it now works, I had over-looked the 3d General Settings.
post #9244 of 9676
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Originally Posted by jmpage2 View Post

Why anyone would give D-Link/Boxee another nickel is beyond me... if anything we should be demanding the new hardware for FREE if we are affected by this issue and they are unable to fix it without new hardware since it is advertised as a working feature from day 1.

This is the way I feel and I'm betting that many investors are starting to think this way as well(the bold part).

I watched The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo on Friday and the audio dropped out EIGHT(8) TIMES. It always seemed like it was at a critical point and this is a movie where you don't wanna be missing any dialog. The wife was NOT happy at all.

I'm completely fed up at this point and would not consider giving them another penny until they can prove they can fix issues consistently and effectively, WITHOUT breaking something else in the process.
post #9245 of 9676
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Originally Posted by Chuck_IV View Post

This is the way I feel and I'm betting that many investors are starting to think this way as well(the bold part).

I watched The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo on Friday and the audio dropped out EIGHT(8) TIMES. It always seemed like it was at a critical point and this is a movie where you don't wanna be missing any dialog. The wife was NOT happy at all.

I'm completely fed up at this point and would not consider giving them another penny until they can prove they can fix issues consistently and effectively, WITHOUT breaking something else in the process.

At the end of the day I just don't think local playback will ever be top priority for Boxee. Online content, social media, ads/marketing, etc... will always be top dog
post #9246 of 9676
Pretty much. That has been what I've been using it for since it doesn't seem up to the task of playing my high bitrate local content without audio dropouts or buffering in my network environment. It does fine with anime fansubs which are usually 720p or low bitrate 1080P and the online apps are pretty decent except for the volume randomly getting really loud in Netflix which is fixed by pausing and restarting the stream. I replaced the Boxee Box with a Dune D1 for bluray playback and TV show management but even with yaDIS I wasn't satisfied with the UI and feautures so I have an Assassin HTPC on the way.

The Boxee Box will still have use to me as I will use it to stream Netflix and other online content plus some of my lower bitrate local content in the bedroom once I cut off DirecTV. I'm considering getting the TV tuner but these guys track record don't instill confidence in me and people are already stating they have issues with it so I might just limit my local TV viewing to the HTPC with DVR functions. Maybe once the TV tuner has been on the market for a while and Boxee gets their stuff together as well as adds DVR functionality I will consider it.
post #9247 of 9676
I have been thinking of going HTPC w/XBMC, but it apparently can't play 1080i/50 or 1080i/60, like 'BBC Life' Blu-ray, and other documentaries and concerts. Not that there are many of these titles, but even XBMC has issues. Not sure if using an external player would work for these types of videos.
post #9248 of 9676
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Originally Posted by Chuck_IV View Post

This is the way I feel and I'm betting that many investors are starting to think this way as well(the bold part).

I watched The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo on Friday and the audio dropped out EIGHT(8) TIMES. It always seemed like it was at a critical point and this is a movie where you don't wanna be missing any dialog. The wife was NOT happy at all.

I'm completely fed up at this point and would not consider giving them another penny until they can prove they can fix issues consistently and effectively, WITHOUT breaking something else in the process.

Are you only getting the dropouts with bitstreamed audio (DTS-MA)? Can you just drop to regular DTS and not get dropouts?

I agree that the WAF really plummets when things don't work, but in my experience the wife doesn't care if it's DTS-MA or vanilla DTS, or DD, or even just plain 2-channel stereo, as long as it works.

I only run vanilla DTS or DD and never have any dropouts. And the wife loves the Boxee Box even more than the HTPC/XBMC setup (still tweaking the latter to get it to be more stable).
post #9249 of 9676
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Originally Posted by mbryanr View Post

Just a guess...when adding the nfs source - did you manually input the IP address?

The Boxee sees my NFS share by name, I just can't get it to browse it's contents. I have the NFS share wide open. It must be something minor configured wrong
post #9250 of 9676
^ you don't see something that looks like this do you

nfs_share_name.local

or do you see an IP address as well as a share name?
post #9251 of 9676
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Brajesh View Post

I have been thinking of going HTPC w/XBMC, but it apparently can't play 1080i/50 or 1080i/60, like 'BBC Life' Blu-ray, and other documentaries and concerts. Not that there are many of these titles, but even XBMC has issues. Not sure if using an external player would work for these types of videos.

I believe that some of the limitations you are describing depend on the video card you use, and yes, it is possible to configure an external player with XBMC although I'm not sure if you can set it up based on content framerate, certainly you can do it for things like DVD/BD ISO vs. MKV files.
post #9252 of 9676
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by bznotins View Post

Are you only getting the dropouts with bitstreamed audio (DTS-MA)? Can you just drop to regular DTS and not get dropouts?

I agree that the WAF really plummets when things don't work, but in my experience the wife doesn't care if it's DTS-MA or vanilla DTS, or DD, or even just plain 2-channel stereo, as long as it works.

I only run vanilla DTS or DD and never have any dropouts. And the wife loves the Boxee Box even more than the HTPC/XBMC setup (still tweaking the latter to get it to be more stable).

You didn't direct the question at me, but, for what it's worth, I was still experiencing the periodic dropout of DTS (just not as frequently). The other night we actually had an audio dropout of a DTS track that was converted to regular 2 channel HDMI going to a television.

As others have said, local playback/library issues just aren't a priority at Boxee HQ, they are far more worried about AirPlay, iPad apps and YouPorn!
post #9253 of 9676
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Originally Posted by Brajesh View Post

I have been thinking of going HTPC w/XBMC, but it apparently can't play 1080i/50 or 1080i/60, like 'BBC Life' Blu-ray, and other documentaries and concerts. Not that there are many of these titles, but even XBMC has issues. Not sure if using an external player would work for these types of videos.

never tried 1080i 50 but 1080i60 plays just fine. It doesn't de-interlace very well but it plays just fine.

gotta 1080i50 sample link.
post #9254 of 9676
http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/10/d...-media-player/

D-Link releases budget-priced MovieNite streaming media player

That can't be good for the future of boxee.
post #9255 of 9676
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Originally Posted by watchy View Post

http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/10/d...-media-player/

D-Link releases budget-priced MovieNite streaming media player

That can't be good for the future of boxee.

At only $60 I don't see it competing with the Boxee Box. Even just for online streaming content, the Boxee Box offers much more. Plus the Boxee Box streams local content.
This new Dlink box would seem to be competing with the Roku2 and Apple Tv. And with such a low price, it might be popular for people interested in the limited number of streaming services it offers.


For the price it might be a good deal for someone interested in only VUDU, Netflix, YouTube, Pandora, and Picasa. And it does give you 1080P output while the cheapest Roku2 version that offers 1080P output retails for $20 more. But the Roku2 also offers more big streaming options like Amazon and Hulu.

I still plan on picking up a second Roku2 box to supplement my Boxee boxes and other media players.
post #9256 of 9676
I agree but Boxee Box makes their revenue from streaming companies. With D-Link releasing a cheap box that has the same streaming options as Boxee Box which is a buggy piece of ****, its going to take away from their revenues. It would not suprise me a bit to see D-Link and Boxee box go seperate ways.

I can't imagine how much they waste amonth on trouble calls etc of the Boxee Box due to immature firmware. They would make more money just releasing the streaming box thats so basic the firmware will just work.
post #9257 of 9676
Isn't the Boxee Box made by DLink too?
post #9258 of 9676
Thread Starter 
Yes... which means that there's a pretty good chance that D-Link will be bidding Boxee adios since this new box duplicates a lot of the Boxee Box functionality.
post #9259 of 9676
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Originally Posted by jmpage2 View Post

Yes... which means that there's a pretty good chance that D-Link will be bidding Boxee adios since this new box duplicates a lot of the Boxee Box functionality.

It duplicates a small portion of it. Not very much based on the press release.
Plus based on the model number, DSM-310, it is positioned below the Boxee Box which has a model number of DSM-380
post #9260 of 9676
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post

It duplicates a small portion of it. Not very much based on the press release.
Plus based on the model number, DSM-310, it is positioned below the Boxee Box which has a model number of DSM-380

We shall see. There's very little chance the current boxee box will be around much longer as Intel has more or less abandoned support for it.
post #9261 of 9676
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Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post


It duplicates a small portion of it. Not very much based on the press release.
Plus based on the model number, DSM-310, it is positioned below the Boxee Box which has a model number of DSM-380

Yeah. Netgear did the same with the ntv550. The released the ntv200, which had online stuff with no local playback (although, they are not going to update the 550 with a newer model).

I'm hoping boxee updates us on the hd audio fix soon, and starts teasing the boxee2.
I use my boxee daily and love it. I don't experience bugginess or stuttering.
post #9262 of 9676
I'm already experimenting with Plex and XBMC. I'm using a spare PC. Last night I installed Windows 8 consumer preview over top Windows 7 on this old PC just for fun and then installed XBMC, added one of my media directories off my Drobo, hooked up the PC's HDMI out to the TV and I was streaming instantly and without problems.

Scraping on XBMC is lightning fast compared to the Boxee Box. One neat thing Plex does is detect changes to your source such as adding and deleting media and instantly scrapes the new additions or scrubs the database for deletions. Surprisingly, Plex scraping is very accurate, the cover art looks gorgeous.

The only thing about Plex is as far as I have been able to determine it won't use NFO ans I have plenty of home movie type material specified as TV Shows that Plex can't ID.

I may be saying goodbye and cut the Boxee Box cord.

Because...it randomaly freezes.
Because...it doesn't always turn off.
Because...it take forever to scrape.
Because...I have no interest in online streaming other than Netflix.
Because...when it scrapes the movies I have set to stack using a common ID
it doesn't sort the media alpha-numerically.
Because...Updating the database/covers is a pain or non existent (one by one
via manual, are you kidding me).
Because...the Box scrapes using an intermediary Boxee database introducing
ID errors.
Because...you have to remove the TV Show ID in TV Show NFO's to avoid
duplicate covers.
Because...there are probably other annoyances about the Boxee Box I can't
think of at the moment.
post #9263 of 9676
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Originally Posted by skro View Post


I'm hoping boxee updates us on the hd audio fix soon, and starts teasing the boxee2.
I use my boxee daily and love it. I don't experience bugginess or stuttering.

Avner did last week in a fireside chat see boxee web site. He indicated that the
HD Audio fix would not be comming.

Intel never delivered the updated SDK with the fix,and he didn't think they would.

Buz
post #9264 of 9676
Yup. All that time we've been waiting for the new SDK that would fix the HD audio dropouts it was never really happening. They don't have a new SDK and can't fix the dropouts. At least the cat is out of the bag and those with HD audio capable home theater setups can look elsewhere for a streamer or just grin an bear the dropouts when they happen. Some people can tolerate them, I can't. Bad for me because I like the Boxee interface better than that on any of the pile of streamers I have tried over the last several years.
post #9265 of 9676
Thread Starter 
Well, I've just relegated my Boxee Boxes to rooms with simple stereo audio setups and it works pretty well for that.

I'm running XBMC with HD audio patch with a $450 PC in my main viewing area and couldn't be happier, it is a rock star.
post #9266 of 9676
jmpage2,

Did you check out Plex?
post #9267 of 9676
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Eug7 View Post

jmpage2,

Did you check out Plex?

No, because my primary use is streaming full bitrate MKV files created from original BD discs. From my last look into Plex it was not really the right solution for that kind of thing.

With XBMC and the right video card I can stream full 1080P at 23.976 with HD audio and get extremely good performance. I stream everything from a Synology NAS as I don't want to invest in another server.
post #9268 of 9676
So if they're not fixing the HD audio bug, then I'm bailing, I'll be researching alternatives tonight. It's a shame since I really love the interface, how easy and quick it is.
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post #9270 of 9676
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Originally Posted by jmpage2 View Post

No, because my primary use is streaming full bitrate MKV files created from original BD discs. From my last look into Plex it was not really the right solution for that kind of thing.

With XBMC and the right video card I can stream full 1080P at 23.976 with HD audio and get extremely good performance. I stream everything from a Synology NAS as I don't want to invest in another server.


I did the same thing, except I bought an Assassin HTPC since I was too lazy to mess around with doing my own build. Maybe down the road I will try and build an ultimate gaming HTPC if the PS4 or Xbox 720 comes out and doesn't allow used games or they both require you to pay to play online (I have an Xbox 360 but refuse to pay for Live so I play everything online enabled on PS3).

I use WMC for Netflix, DVR, Live TV, and some additional online streaming. I also use Plex for some online streaming in addition to XBMC for my local content and online streaming as well. I installed Boxee but since they stopped supporting it and Flash doesn't seem to be working correctly I barely use it. The Boxee Box has been retired to bedroom duty streaming Netflix and other online content. It was simply too limited or nonfunctional to be used as my main viewing source especially with me canceling DirecTV.
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