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post #9361 of 9564
9/26/12 at 4:52pm
I did not see more than 3 drop outs while playing marvels the avengers bluray today. Did anyone try it out?? just for laughs, i tried to play the 3d file and i saw cpu hitting 100%, buffering issues with boxee box. Note: I do not have a 3d tv. I just tried to play the 3d iso file to see what happens
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post #9362 of 9564
9/27/12 at 1:58am
I’m a noob about the boxee box. I just got today my boxee box, and I am very happy, but I have a problem, I am trying to add the Bartsidee's repo http://www.bartsidee.nl in my boxee box connect it into my TV without success. I get a message in my TV: “ERROR Could not get repository information. Make sure the URL…..”

I wrote the dir exactly the same, but I get that Error.

Could you guys please help me?
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post #9363 of 9564
9/27/12 at 4:08pm
I think you need to create an account with bartsidee and they will email/PM you a code. That's how I remember doing it.
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post #9364 of 9564
10/5/12 at 2:41pm
Woot.com has the refurbished Boxee Boxes for $110.00 dollars plus shipping. If anyone still wants one!

http://tech.woot.com/offers/boxee-box-hd-media-player-by-d-link-2
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post #9365 of 9564
10/8/12 at 5:04am
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

Woot.com has the refurbished Boxee Boxes for $110.00 dollars plus shipping.

My local Best Buy has them for $120... on clearance.
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post #9366 of 9564
10/8/12 at 6:07am
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Originally Posted by Charles R View Post

My local Best Buy has them for $120... on clearance.

That's nice. I guess it depends on the area since our local Best Buy do not have them in stock....ever!
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post #9367 of 9564
10/10/12 at 5:35pm
Interesting since my local BestBuy is still selling them at 179.99 ( in stock at the three local BestBuys here).

Sorry if mentioned already cause I just jumped into the forum at the last message for a second before hitting the bed.. anyone see the new Boxee Box (antenna/DVR) that's in testing?

It doesn't have much draw for me the way I use my BBs that I bought long time ago (which I love them fyi!) but thought others might be interested:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-57528726-1/boxee-readying-new-set-top-box-with-dvr-support/

EDIT: Must have been a fluke in BestBuy site since now the three near me all say no stock.
Edited by WolfMan69 - 10/11/12 at 3:15pm
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post #9368 of 9564
10/16/12 at 8:04am
Thread Starter 
Just an update all and I will be editing the 1st post to reflect the latest info.

1. Boxee is releasing new hardware with a focus on cloud storage and DVR type TV recording. This box is based on Broadcom SOC chip solution that will not be as capable of playing high quality local content (think similar to Roku). This product will be released in November 2012.

http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/16/boxee-tv-delivers-dual-tuners-and-cloud-dvr-for-99/

2. Boxee will provide a "small update" to the Boxee Box V1 to update Flash and other things and then Boxee V1 goes into 'maintenance mode'. What does maintenance mode mean? If it's anything like what we've seen in the lack of new firmware over the past six months it means that it is highly unlikely that we will see any further FW update. Effectively Boxee V1 goes end of life and any remaining bugs (HD Audio, etc) will not be fixed.

3. There are very preliminary efforts to install software on Boxee Box V1, so it is possible (though unlikely) that at some point in the future our Boxee Boxes will be repurposed as XBMC machines or for other purposes. I would imagine any such efforts are quite a long ways out.

I will continue using my 3 Boxee Boxes for the time being, until a better local media playback device becomes available for playing my BD rips. I've already replaced the Boxee in my main viewing area with a really good HTPC running XBMC and for local media playback I could not be happier.
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post #9369 of 9564
10/16/12 at 8:41am
So do we know any specifics about what local content the new box will play? I am surprised it's only $99 though. But I guess they make up for it with a $15 monthly fee if you plan to use the DVR features.
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post #9370 of 9564
10/16/12 at 8:51am
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Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post

So do we know any specifics about what local content the new box will play? I am surprised it's only $99 though. But I guess they make up for it with a $15 monthly fee if you plan to use the DVR features.

You would have to research the Broadcom SOC they went with.

However, I think you will find that the ability to play BD quality rips is almost zero percent likely.
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post #9371 of 9564
10/16/12 at 10:11am
And bankruptcy it is?
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post #9372 of 9564
10/16/12 at 10:19am
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You would have to research the Broadcom SOC they went with.
However, I think you will find that the ability to play BD quality rips is almost zero percent likely.

Maybe the update will fix the HD audio dropout issues.biggrin.gif

I preordered the PCH A400. Hopefully that works well for me. But so I have not not seen anything from stand alone boxes that aggregates the content from multiple sources as well as the Boxee Box does. I had been hoping v2 would be an improvement over version one. But I guess not.
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post #9373 of 9564
10/16/12 at 10:25am
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Maybe the update will fix the HD audio dropout issues.biggrin.gif
When pigs fly?! That said, I do see a thread at Boxee forum showing a v2.5 update that uses the new SDK and fixes hd audio? If it happens, pigs will have flown smile.gif.
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post #9374 of 9564
10/16/12 at 10:30am
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When pigs fly?! That said, I do see a thread at Boxee forum showing a v2.5 update that uses the new SDK and fixes hd audio? If it happens, pigs will have flown smile.gif.

hahahahahahahahahahahahaha. I think if the audio problem were fixable it would've been done by now. I would love to be proven wrong and will go buy 5 boxee boxes if this is true! I absolutely loved the interface and ease of use but the the audio drop outs were killer for me..
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post #9375 of 9564
10/16/12 at 10:41am
Since this is the end, I'd like to see them go out with a bang. It needs 5.1 audio from Netflix, Amazon Prime should be added (also with 5.1 sound), and the HD audio fix of course.

I'm expecting them to go out with a whimper.
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post #9376 of 9564
10/16/12 at 10:59am
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Since this is the end, I'd like to see them go out with a bang. It needs 5.1 audio from Netflix, Amazon Prime should be added (also with 5.1 sound), and the HD audio fix of course.
I'm expecting them to go out with a whimper.
The chance of them going out with that kind of bang is ridiculously small. They're abandoning both the Boxee Box and XBMC, so I'd be surprised if any work put into the BB for the past 6 months was anything but wasted effort. Why add features to dead product line, especially when moving to a new processor architecture so little to none of the code is reusable.

I think a lot of people here expected the Boxee Box to be abandoned for new hardware in the near future. I'm not sure anyone expected they'd abandon the product line entirely and move towards becoming a cut-rate streaming TiVo.
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post #9377 of 9564
10/16/12 at 11:18am
It's just disappointing. It still feels like a beta product and now it always will.
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post #9378 of 9564
10/16/12 at 1:30pm
October 16, 2012
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post #9379 of 9564
10/16/12 at 1:44pm
god, if thats true. I hope they go bankrupt so fast. Boxee is the worst company I have ever bought anything from. They really don't care about their customers nor even look what their customer base is.

There is no way in hell this DVR model will pay off. Its not possible.
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post #9380 of 9564
10/16/12 at 2:04pm
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Originally Posted by Gizmotoy View Post

The chance of them going out with that kind of bang is ridiculously small. They're abandoning both the Boxee Box and XBMC, so I'd be surprised if any work put into the BB for the past 6 months was anything but wasted effort. Why add features to dead product line, especially when moving to a new processor architecture so little to none of the code is reusable.
I think a lot of people here expected the Boxee Box to be abandoned for new hardware in the near future. I'm not sure anyone expected they'd abandon the product line entirely and move towards becoming a cut-rate streaming TiVo.

And Boxee TV ends up being more expensive than a TiVo. After three years you've paid $540 for storage plus the $100 for the Boxee TV for a total of $640. With the current lower end Premiere at $150 plus $400 for lifetime, that's only $550. Plus you have the option to use cable cards. But no more money goes to TiVo. While with the Boxee Tv you have to continuously pay for storage if you use the DVR features. $15 a month seems high.
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post #9381 of 9564
10/16/12 at 3:04pm
I thought lifetime was $500. If it was $400 instead + we know it's $80 for the factory refurb Premiere, I'd consider it.
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post #9382 of 9564
10/16/12 at 3:05pm
^ You may not be paying $15/month for very long depending on how long they stay afloat and then you will be left with yet another boxee brick!
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post #9383 of 9564
10/16/12 at 3:35pm
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I thought lifetime was $500.

There are a couple of ways new subscribers can get it for $400. Without breaking any rules but getting creative at the same time...
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post #9384 of 9564
10/16/12 at 3:40pm
^ Isn't the lifetime tied to the life of the box? In other words when they come out with a new box you have to have and you upgrade you have to buy another lifetime for that box right?
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post #9385 of 9564
10/16/12 at 4:54pm
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^ Isn't the lifetime tied to the life of the box? In other words when they come out with a new box you have to have and you upgrade you have to buy another lifetime for that box right?

Yes.

I just sell my old lifetime box to cover 80% to 100%(or more) of the cost of the new TiVo box with lifetime service. I went from the S3 TiVos to the two tuner Premieres and the sale of the S3 boxes covered 80% of the cost of the lifetime Premieres. Then when the four tuner Elites came out. I got a launch Elite and another one around 6 months later when the price dropped. For each one I sold two of the lifetime two tuner Premieres to cover 100% or more of the cost of each of the lifetime Elite boxes. I still had the same amount of tuners, but fewer boxes, less cable cards, and the two Elite used less than half the power that the four boxes I sold used.. If a six tuner TiVo comes out for retail next year then I will sell my two Elite boxes to cover the cost of the six tuner TiVo and a TiVo Mini. Which will save more power and also reduce my cable cards again. Then I still have one two tuner Premiere on monthly service for $6.95 a month that gets OTA programming. The boxes aren't worth much without lifetime service. But they also don't have monthly service for a price that low any more so I plan on keeping it as long as they don't raise the monthly price.
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post #9386 of 9564
10/16/12 at 9:33pm
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Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post

And Boxee TV ends up being more expensive than a TiVo. After three years you've paid $540 for storage plus the $100 for the Boxee TV for a total of $640. With the current lower end Premiere at $150 plus $400 for lifetime, that's only $550. Plus you have the option to use cable cards. But no more money goes to TiVo. While with the Boxee Tv you have to continuously pay for storage if you use the DVR features. $15 a month seems high.

Good point. Seems likely there will also be bandwidth issues for some users. If you record a lot of programs will you have to worry about your cap and have to subscribe to a more expensive plan? This is an easy call for me, I won't be getting the new Boxee TV.
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post #9387 of 9564
10/17/12 at 6:42am
The more I think about it, this move to Boxee TV is the first step in prepping Boxee to be sold to a company like DISH, Directv or Comcast for the Cloud DVR technology. The Boxee Box failed because instead of profiting on the hardware, their business model was set up to profit off of premium services. Cloudee & cutting the cord Cloud DVR strategy was born in an attempt to appease investors.

I like the concept of Boxee TV but who in their right mind is going to spend $15 per month to record free OTA programming? This Cloud DVR is nothing more than a proof of concept to show potential buyers that the technology works and by this time next year Boxee will be sold to the highest bidder.
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post #9388 of 9564
10/17/12 at 7:09am
It also to show that once you move to specific hardware you are not free like a HTPC. Very limited. Especially if online they start blocking/upgrading like they did with flash.
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post #9389 of 9564
10/17/12 at 8:21am
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It also to show that once you move to specific hardware you are not free like a HTPC. Very limited. Especially if online they start blocking/upgrading like they did with flash.

Thats a different issue, Flash is a proprietary technology and has major problems on anything other than a Windows PC, HTML5 is meant to do away with all that but Boxee were too early and the market isn't ready to shift away from Flash just yet. In a few years from now when the net has transitioned away from Flash to HTML5 and the mess around DRM/advertising in relation to HTML5 video is all sorted out the original Boxee web apps might have been more successful.

I agree though with marcello696 I think this is Boxee's last throw of the dice.

I didn't see it mentioned anywhere but if your going full mainstream then they should have jumped on the Ultraviolet bandwagon, that DRM for managed digital copies (I'd never touch the stuff), Miracast should be in there too if they are no longer supporting a web browser.
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post #9390 of 9564
10/17/12 at 10:35am
I'm not seeing a competing product that meets my needs just yet. I'll likely stick with Boxee until I see the following minimums:

Local Streaming:
H.264 AVC (Both 8 and 10-bit formats most STBs only support 8-bit)
VC-1 (TS/AVI/MKV/WMV)
MPEG-1 MPEG-2 MPEG-4
DivX 3/4/5/6/HD
Xvid
DTS, Dolby Digital/Dolby True HD over HDMI
Native 3D processing with correct HDMI flags

Network Streaming Services:
Netflix
CrunchyRoll
Amazon VOD (Not currently in Boxee)

Web:
Ability to render contemporary web pages including reasonable Flash version and HTML5
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