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post #9541 of 9676
I haven't tried Boxee+ yet, but it seems like there hasn't been any activity on it for months. Does it seem stable enough in its current shape?
post #9542 of 9676
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Originally Posted by skro View Post

I haven't tried Boxee+ yet, but it seems like there hasn't been any activity on it for months. Does it seem stable enough in its current shape?

Boxee+ is only minor tweaks, so really not that much different from stock Boxee software. There's no control over the core OS where most of the big problems reside so all Boxee+ can do is tweak a few things on the Boxee app.

It's not like there are going to be any more updates from Boxee, you may as well give it a go if interested.
post #9543 of 9676
I just recently disconnected my Boxee Box from the main TV. It's sitting on the counter gathering dust for right now. It seemed to be having more and more problems as time went on. It no longer powered off unless I pulled the power completely. And if it was left on for a long period, it often lost the ability to play anything anymore, and had to be powered down and restarted.

I'm sad about it. I bought it close to release, when it seemed to have so much promise. Now I've finally joined the group that feels royally screwed over by the Boxee team. Now I'm just another guy looking for a suitable replacement. For now I'm just using a WD TV SMP. It does the job. But it does NOT have the movie wall that I loved so much, and it appears I have to shell out significantly more for a PCH or Dune unit to get what I'd really want, and that just sucks.
post #9544 of 9676
Same here. I have 3 Boxee's and will likely get rid of them on eBay. It's sad, as even w/o the HD audio fix, I would've kept them for family and kids use as the UI is much better compared to other media players. But, between playback issues and shows not being picked up (even with NFO's), it gets frustrating. Relying more on Mede8er now; not perfect UI and jukebox wise, but at least playback and firmware support are both great.
post #9545 of 9676
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Originally Posted by Brajesh View Post

Same here. I have 3 Boxee's and will likely get rid of them on eBay. It's sad, as even w/o the HD audio fix, I would've kept them for family and kids use as the UI is much better compared to other media players. But, between playback issues and shows not being picked up (even with NFO's), it gets frustrating. Relying more on Mede8er now; not perfect UI and jukebox wise, but at least playback and firmware support are both great.

Still can't believe you bought 3
post #9546 of 9676
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Originally Posted by Brajesh View Post

Same here. I have 3 Boxee's and will likely get rid of them on eBay. It's sad, as even w/o the HD audio fix, I would've kept them for family and kids use as the UI is much better compared to other media players. But, between playback issues and shows not being picked up (even with NFO's), it gets frustrating. Relying more on Mede8er now; not perfect UI and jukebox wise, but at least playback and firmware support are both great.

Which Mede8er boxes are you running? Which is your favorite?
post #9547 of 9676
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by dbone1026 View Post

Still can't believe you bought 3

I bought three also. They still do 90% of what I need in the rooms that they are in (rooms that don't need HD audio and have 42" or smaller televisions). It's also worth pointing out that two of them cost me under $149. Find something even now that's as good or better than a Boxee for $149 and I'll consider it.

The only real problem Boxee has is abandonment. If the development on it was opened up we'd already have a full XBMC port running on it, without the HD audio problems and probably running better skins and plugins than Boxee is running today.

I would like to eventually replace them with Intel NUC running XBMC/OpenElec or something similar, however, the few apps on the Boxee that still work would be hard to replace without running Windows, which I am loathe to do.
Edited by jmpage2 - 5/3/13 at 3:36pm
post #9548 of 9676
It's funny, I barely used my Boxee for anything outside of local playback anymore. There was a time when it was my primary Netflix box too, but then the PS3 Netflix overtook it in functionality.

And I'm still shocked it never got Hulu or Amazon.
post #9549 of 9676
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Irishdoom View Post

It's funny, I barely used my Boxee for anything outside of local playback anymore. There was a time when it was my primary Netflix box too, but then the PS3 Netflix overtook it in functionality.

And I'm still shocked it never got Hulu or Amazon.

Hulu was just another lie in a string of lies told to Boxee owners by Avner.
post #9550 of 9676
For family use (wife, kids, guests), I still think it has the best, easiest UI, provided you can tolerate the issues (not HD audio, more of TV episodes not being found, misidentified, etc. even with NFO's; outdated apps, more and more playback issues, etc.).
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Which Mede8er boxes are you running? Which is your favorite?
Two 600X3D's. For movies, I really like Y2M jukebox. For TV, a Mede8er forum member recently did a Mede8er version of TVRename to allow a quasi-jukebox. It's serviceable like I said; at least shows episode thumbs and metadata well, even if basic.

If/when PCH A-400 gets stable enough (especially 3D ISO playback), I will probably try it again.
post #9551 of 9676
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Originally Posted by Brajesh View Post

For family use (wife, kids, guests), I still think it has the best, easiest UI, provided you can tolerate the issues (not HD audio, more of TV episodes not being found, misidentified, etc. even with NFO's; outdated apps, more and more playback issues, etc.).
Two 600X3D's. For movies, I really like Y2M jukebox. For TV, a Mede8er forum member recently did a Mede8er version of TVRename to allow a quasi-jukebox. It's serviceable like I said; at least shows episode thumbs and metadata well, even if basic.

If/when PCH A-400 gets stable enough (especially 3D ISO playback), I will probably try it again.

I'd say the PCH-A400 is very stable right now. I have been having excellent results playing back my 3D BD ISOs over my network with the recent forum firmware.. I used to need to play them from a local USB drive. Now I can play them from my WHS and unRAID boxes like my 2D BD ISOs.
post #9552 of 9676
Boxee UI was good and GPU accelerated with an RF remote made all the difference, I really hated the slow as molasses UI from Sigma/Realtek players having come from a HTPC background, it really felt like a step back in time. Thats why I jumped on board getting one, my original unit eventually got the black screen of death and was replaced but it worked okay from there on. I've settled on the Pivos XIOS as my replacement, though I only need it for file playback no online stuff.

Another Boxee like replacement is the The Little Black Box, it's an XBMC Arm box with same hardware & software as Pivos XIOS but the primary differences being it comes pre-installed with their own linux XBMC firmware out of the box instead of Android and the most Boxee like thing is the remote, it's very similar to the Boxee Box remote and RF based. You can buy the RF remote if you know where to look on Dealextreme, eBay and so on but it doesn't work with the Pivos XIOS.

Might be Europe only though, not sure about international orders.

Keep in mind same limitations as Pivos XIOS apply, if your into videophile stuff (HD audio, 24Hz etc) it's not for you but want a responsive/fast UI it's a good choice.
post #9553 of 9676
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Originally Posted by jmpage2 View Post

I bought three also. They still do 90% of what I need in the rooms that they are in (rooms that don't need HD audio and have 42" or smaller televisions). It's also worth pointing out that two of them cost me under $149. Find something even now that's as good or better than a Boxee for $149 and I'll consider it.
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What does 42" or smaller have to do with it? Is it the quality? I currently have it on a 50" plasma, but looking to upgrade my main TV to a 65" Panasonic Plasma. Wll that not work well for that? And if not, what are my choices? My other "media" player is my laptop.

RE: The Price, I picked my up refurbished @ Best Buy for $116 smile.gif
post #9554 of 9676
He means Boxee may be fine where you have it connected directly to a secondary TV, and isn't part of your main home theater (with HD audio, etc.). PQ wise, Boxee will look just fine on your 65".
post #9555 of 9676
My new (refurbished) Boxee will crash freeze at least once a night...Is that the norm??

The browser is brutal (I've heard you can download Google browser for it, but I can't find how or where)

Since I can still return this....

IF you could return your boxee, what would you buy today??
post #9556 of 9676
Nothing will fully replace a Boxee outside of a HTPC. The best you can do really is combine a Med8er or A400 with a roku IMO. Unless u have a smart TV in which case all you need is a dedicated media player. All depends on what your media needs are.

Btw my Boxee (early build) freezes here and there but it shouldn't freeze once a day.
post #9557 of 9676
Freezing is not normal.
post #9558 of 9676
Moving away from Boxee Box. Pre-ordered The Little Black Box. ;-)
post #9559 of 9676
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Originally Posted by Hyabusha View Post

Moving away from Boxee Box. Pre-ordered The Little Black Box. ;-)

Will the Little Black Box play back BD ISOs?
post #9560 of 9676
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Pre-ordered The Little Black Box. ;-)
What?
post #9561 of 9676
Thread Starter 
I imagine the device is the one being discussed here;

http://www.avforums.com/forums/streamers-network-media-players/1769366-little-black-box-runs-xbmc-linux-85-00-a.html

Looks like another 1/2 baked cheap Chinese box with questionable software support and without the muscle to run full BD rips, let alone ISO images.

For all of its flaws, the BB still has more going for it than most of these other budget machines.

If someone really wants to replace their BB then the best options right now, in my humble opinion are either the new PCH box, the current Dune box or, if you're willing to spend the $$ a real HTPC.
post #9562 of 9676
Tried Google TV at BB the other day, the chrome browser works fanstastic.

Can you download Google browser (or another browser) for the Boxee? And if so, how? (I Googled, no luck)
post #9563 of 9676
Thread Starter 
No, you can't download Google Chrome (or any other 3rd party browser) onto the Boxee Box.
post #9564 of 9676
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Originally Posted by jmpage2 View Post

I imagine the device is the one being discussed here;

http://www.avforums.com/forums/streamers-network-media-players/1769366-little-black-box-runs-xbmc-linux-85-00-a.html

Looks like another 1/2 baked cheap Chinese box with questionable software support and without the muscle to run full BD rips, let alone ISO images.

For all of its flaws, the BB still has more going for it than most of these other budget machines.

If someone really wants to replace their BB then the best options right now, in my humble opinion are either the new PCH box, the current Dune box or, if you're willing to spend the $$ a real HTPC.
Yup, I'm skeptical of the many Linux and especially Android-based XBMC boxes on the market now. They don't appear ready for prime-time. I'm sticking with Mede8er for local media streaming. It has a few shortcomings (no forced subs, so-so TV jukebox), but has solid 2D and 3D playback, perfect 23.976 and 24.000 framerate, hd audio, decent jukebox, and now iPad jukebox support.
post #9565 of 9676
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Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post

Will the Little Black Box play back BD ISOs?

"The box has been tested with blue ray iso's playback is good but not yet perfect. In a few weeks as we fine tune the unit. This capability will be flawless."

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Originally Posted by Brajesh View Post

What?

http://www.thelittleblackboxna.com/

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Originally Posted by jmpage2 View Post

I imagine the device is the one being discussed here;

http://www.avforums.com/forums/streamers-network-media-players/1769366-little-black-box-runs-xbmc-linux-85-00-a.html

Looks like another 1/2 baked cheap Chinese box with questionable software support and without the muscle to run full BD rips, let alone ISO images.

Really? No.
post #9566 of 9676
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Originally Posted by Hyabusha View Post

"The box has been tested with blue ray iso's playback is good but not yet perfect. In a few weeks as we fine tune the unit. This capability will be flawless."
http://www.thelittleblackboxna.com/
Really? No.

I think the others comments are based on previous experience. While saying it will be fixed in a few weeks is nice, sometimes a few weeks turns into months, months into never.....
post #9567 of 9676
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". . . In a few weeks as we fine tune the unit. This capability will be flawless."
If it is, then it will be the first one ever to be flawless.

I wouldn't hold my breath.
post #9568 of 9676
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Originally Posted by Hyabusha View Post

Moving away from Boxee Box. Pre-ordered The Little Black Box. ;-)

Looks like the Little Black Box's remote isn't back-lit.
post #9569 of 9676
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Originally Posted by dbone1026 View Post

Still can't believe you bought 3

I have four so far, of course I didn't buy these all new they where between $150-$120 refurbs and have bought several more for others.

For Free Hulu I use the BartsideeTV app http://www.bartsidee.nl/ To watch Amazon I can use the Windows PlayOn/PlayLater software, but really haven't seen much on Amazon to watch. Since I've cut the cord, awhile ago, the Boxee Box is my everyday box for Netflix, Hulu, Bluray playing, Boxee 'Watch Later' bookmarked videos, video podcast and media from my NASes. I've bought lots of boxes previously that didn't come close to the Boxee Box features and will keep using them until something better comes out, if it does.
post #9570 of 9676
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Originally Posted by bsanf3 View Post

Looks like the Little Black Box's remote isn't back-lit.

I'll be using the Android app anyway.
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