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post #9661 of 9676
So I don't mean to bother anyone if this has been discussed into the ground, but I've been doing so much searching over the last 6 months or so that I'm really hoping that you folks might be able to help me here.
Firstly, I LOVE my Boxee. In fact, when I heard they were discontinued...I got another one on ebay. Maybe not a good idea, now that I read here (on the first, updated, post) that everything is reliant upon the boxes servers each time you boot up.... frown.gif

Anyway...my ONLY, sole complaint about the Boxee is that it occasionally drops out DTS-MA or TrueHD. This over time has been greatly wearing away my patience as far as enjoyment of movies.
I know this was an ongoing issue, and from reading an intel-related fix that needed to be paid for by boxee to be implemented, but never was.
I've seen a few forums about people trying to unlock boxee, etc...but I don't know if I'm finding what I need or not.
Is there any fix (aside from downconversion in the boxee) for this issue that anyone knows of?

And lastly...if there isn't...is there any valid, solid alternatives? The *ONLY* thing I use my boxee's for is to play, wired over my gigabit network, uncompressed blu-ray mkv files from my collection from my server...with the HD audio codecs (dts-ma and trueHD).
I would, of course, love to stay within the budget range that the boxee is / was...but if the only alternative is higher-priced...I'd love to hear them. A dedicated Mac mini just for that would seem a bit much though cost-wise (though that's what I read some people do?).

Thank you for your help!!! smile.gif
post #9662 of 9676
It's my understanding that the HD audio dropout issue can't be fixed. As you noted the Intel fix never happened. If I recall correctly one of the earliest firmwares didn't have the dropout problem so it might be
possible to revert to it if you can live with that early GUI and whatever bugs and quirks it had. You would have to block to the updates which can be done.
post #9663 of 9676
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Originally Posted by johnb4467 View Post

And lastly...if there isn't...is there any valid, solid alternatives? The *ONLY* thing I use my boxee's for is to play, wired over my gigabit network, uncompressed blu-ray mkv files from my collection from my server...with the HD audio codecs (dts-ma and trueHD).
I would, of course, love to stay within the budget range that the boxee is / was...but if the only alternative is higher-priced...I'd love to hear them. A dedicated Mac mini just for that would seem a bit much though cost-wise (though that's what I read some people do?).

Thank you for your help!!! smile.gif
There's talk of the new Pivos Xios maybe worth having a look at? Due out over the next few months maybe? Don't know much about the unit myself though.
post #9664 of 9676
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Originally Posted by NeilF View Post

There's talk of the new Pivos Xios maybe worth having a look at? Due out over the next few months maybe? Don't know much about the unit myself though.

I hope they come out with a decent media player. The XAIOS just wasn't good enough for me.
post #9665 of 9676
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Originally Posted by johnb4467 View Post

So I don't mean to bother anyone if this has been discussed into the ground, but I've been doing so much searching over the last 6 months or so that I'm really hoping that you folks might be able to help me here.
Firstly, I LOVE my Boxee. In fact, when I heard they were discontinued...I got another one on ebay. Maybe not a good idea, now that I read here (on the first, updated, post) that everything is reliant upon the boxes servers each time you boot up.... frown.gif
........

There's a Boxee server replacement project called BoxeeProxy by alapalme that has a Linux and Windows version, but I don't know the latest status of it. http://forums.boxee.tv/showthread.php?t=64409&page=12

Unfortunately I haven't seen a box that could replace a my Boxee Boxes yet, just having a box that runs XBMC doesn't do it for me.
post #9666 of 9676
Firstly a big thank-you to all of you on here -- this a very friendly & helpful community we have here. smile.gif
Also something I wanted to mention -- while I love seeing that little "dts-ma" and "trueHD" light on my receiver...I'd also be plenty-happy with a solution that is capable of outputting those codecs as 7.1 LPCM. That's actually what I do with my initial-release PS3 for blu-rays. Boxee, unfortunately, will only output 2ch PCM, even if the source is higher (as I'm sure you all know).
If there's already a solution out there that can play MKV's and output 7.1 PCM from the dts-ma / trueHD -- I'd be very interested in hearing about those as well!
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Originally Posted by Bob Olink View Post

If I recall correctly one of the earliest firmwares didn't have the dropout problem so it might be
possible to revert to it if you can live with that early GUI and whatever bugs and quirks it had. You would have to block to the updates which can be done.

This is very interesting, and if that is indeed the case, I would be very interested in trying this out. Especially since, truth be told, I really only use my boxes box(es) to stream MKV files from my home server. I don't particularly remember what the initial firmware looked like, but I wouldn't mind jumping back and dealing with it, if it fixed the dropout issues! smile.gif
Does anyone else happen to know if this is indeed the case...and what firmware I may be wanting to revert back to?
I'd also have no idea where to locate it & how to revert back / block the updates -- is there any FAQ's out there for this process?
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Originally Posted by NeilF View Post

There's talk of the new Pivos Xios maybe worth having a look at? Due out over the next few months maybe? Don't know much about the unit myself though.

Interesting...I hadn't even come across the Pivos in my searching over all these months ... I'll keep an eye out, and maybe keep us informed on here as well. smile.gif

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Originally Posted by bsanf3 View Post

There's a Boxee server replacement project called BoxeeProxy by alapalme that has a Linux and Windows version, but I don't know the latest status of it. http://forums.boxee.tv/showthread.php?t=64409&page=12

This is great to hear -- I'd love to keep my boxee's functioning (I only need the HD audio through one of them -- the other works wonderfully downsampling to regular DTS or DD), and if the plug ever does get plugged on boxee's service, it'd be great to have something to fall back on!

As a side-note, I did find in a thread a D-Link employee speaking in regards to Boxee -- that D-Link actually is very upset on how their customers have been left high-and-dry (supposedly they invested a lot of money in boxee)...and feel very much like the community hates them now. It was suggested that if we reach out to them and let them know that we still love their product, there was hope that boxee might be brought back (maybe under a different name if legalities get in the way) and ... I would hope ... maybe further developed. Just thought I'd mention that. smile.gif

Thanks everyone!
post #9667 of 9676
Here is a link to some instructions on blocking updates on the original Boxee forum.

http://forums.boxee.tv/showthread.php?t=35225

Keep in mind that when doing a full factory reset you are going to have to rescan your library.
I'm not sure if the firmware they are linking to is one of the old ones that plays HD audio without the drop outs.
You can always try the original base firmware and see how it does. If it doesn't work you can flash the one on this page.
Hope I'm not sending you a wild goose chase, it's been quite awhile since I messed with any of this and things
get a little vague with time. If all else fails you can always unblock it again and update to the latest firmware and be back
where you started.

Good Luck.
post #9668 of 9676
Hi everyone,

I've been keeping my feelings out, and I don't know if this is new or not...but this item is stated to support the following:

"Supported Audio Output

Stereo
Dolby Digital AC3 passthrough
Dolby Digital Plus 7.1 passthrough
Dolby TrueHD 7.1 passthrough
DTS Digital Surround 5.1 passthrough
DTS-HD MA passthrough
AAC 7.1 passthrough
FLAC"

Which means it should be able to passthrough True HD and DTS-MA?!?!?!

Here is the item:
http://www.pivosgroup.com/aios.html
Is this new?
post #9669 of 9676
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Originally Posted by johnb4467 View Post

Hi everyone,

I've been keeping my feelings out, and I don't know if this is new or not...but this item is stated to support the following:

"Supported Audio Output

Stereo
Dolby Digital AC3 passthrough
Dolby Digital Plus 7.1 passthrough
Dolby TrueHD 7.1 passthrough
DTS Digital Surround 5.1 passthrough
DTS-HD MA passthrough
AAC 7.1 passthrough
FLAC"

Which means it should be able to passthrough True HD and DTS-MA?!?!?!

Here is the item:
http://www.pivosgroup.com/aios.html
Is this new?

That's not new. That's old. It does support HD sound. The remote and UI is probably one of the worse out there. If you have a Harmony remote, it might work best. If you want an inexpensive media player, it will do a good job. Don't expect great things out of it though.
post #9670 of 9676
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

That's not new. That's old. It does support HD sound. The remote and UI is probably one of the worse out there. If you have a Harmony remote, it might work best. If you want an inexpensive media player, it will do a good job. Don't expect great things out of it though.

Compared to my Boxee Boxes, for playing back uncompressed 1080p MKV files w/ true-hd or dts-ma ... am I likely still better off with my boxes (even with the audio dropouts)?
post #9671 of 9676
Quote:
Originally Posted by johnb4467 View Post

Compared to my Boxee Boxes, for playing back uncompressed 1080p MKV files w/ true-hd or dts-ma ... am I likely still better off with my boxes (even with the audio dropouts)?

The AIOS has a really simple UI, and it doesn't look that good, but it does play movies well. It played all of my MKV and M2TS files without any issues. However, the remote being unresponsive was a major issue with my wife and kids. So, I ended up selling it. If you really want HD sound, then you can try it out and see how it works. Or you can try the WDTV media players, which now support HD sound with the new firmware.

If you want something that has a more responsive remote, nice looking UI and jukebox then you will have to look at Dune, Med8er or PCH.

The WDTV is an okay all around media player because it supports Netflix, Hulu, Pandora, and now it supports HD sound. The only thing I don't like about is its jukebox (ThumbGen), which is slow if you've got a large movie / TV show collection. And the remote requires a clear line of sight. Other than that it works well.
post #9672 of 9676
Quote:
Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

The AIOS has a really simple UI, and it doesn't look that good, but it does play movies well. It played all of my MKV and M2TS files without any issues. However, the remote being unresponsive was a major issue with my wife and kids. So, I ended up selling it. If you really want HD sound, then you can try it out and see how it works. Or you can try the WDTV media players, which now support HD sound with the new firmware.

If you want something that has a more responsive remote, nice looking UI and jukebox then you will have to look at Dune, Med8er or PCH.

The WDTV is an okay all around media player because it supports Netflix, Hulu, Pandora, and now it supports HD sound. The only thing I don't like about is its jukebox (ThumbGen), which is slow if you've got a large movie / TV show collection. And the remote requires a clear line of sight. Other than that it works well.

Are you referring to the WDTV Live? I just want to make sure I'm looking at the correct model. In the description it doesn't mention any of the HD codecs, so I just wanted to check.
Sorry if I'm bombarding you with questions! It does sound like a nice unit....

I'd definitely look into the Dune, PCH, etc...but I know those are quite a bit more expensive. I'll keep an eye out though. wink.gif

John
post #9673 of 9676
WD TV SMP supports both DTS-MA and TrueHD passthrough. It also supports a movie and TV jukebox (you don't have to use ThumbGen), but jukebox quality is so-so as is... unless, you visit the various WD forums are learn to customize.
post #9674 of 9676
Dune Base 3D. I'm a happy man. :-)
post #9675 of 9676
Hi

I have been searching for this but found no answer so was wondering if the BB can play urls that end with .m3u8?
It's a video stream that can play on my mac and iPhone if that helps smile.gif

Thanks in advance!
post #9676 of 9676
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Originally Posted by aanee View Post

Hi

I have been searching for this but found no answer so was wondering if the BB can play urls that end with .m3u8?
It's a video stream that can play on my mac and iPhone if that helps smile.gif

Thanks in advance!

Do you have a specific link I could try out?
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