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post #1291 of 1650
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Originally Posted by Marty913 View Post

Certainly no harm at all in trying it out for yourself and I would encourage you to do that. If you don't, you'll always wonder about it.

As for digital vs analog SPL meters, I've have both and both work fine. Back in the early days they were all analog and some of us just got used to them (old timers, lol). The analogs are a few bucks cheaper but one isn't any better than the other.

Thanks, I'll give it a shot when it arrives. With the issues I've got with my sub it will be interesting to see what it does. And you know what, I forgot to mention that I don't own a proper SPL meter but I do have a few db and fft apps on my iPhone that I've been using. Thats what I used to setup the Yamaha and the results were pretty good.

Anyway, it will be here in a few days so most of these questions will get answered then. I can't wait.
post #1292 of 1650
Hi guys,

I'm new owner of one of these, still need to set it up though. I have a quick question on the 230V model (EU and UK), my manual says the speaker outs can accept "banana plugs (120V model only)".

This seems like a pretty arbitrary limitation, anybody actually use banana plugs with this receiver? Is there a reason the 240V requires bare wire? May be related to voltage but I still don't see why. The binding posts have plugs over the jacks but if I remove the plastic plug it seems like they'll still accept banana plugs.
post #1293 of 1650
Just picked up one of these open box from Crutchfield. Its going in the home theater replacing an Onkyo RC160 since I need pre-outs for the Sherwood A965 I picked up.

The Onkyo will be moved to Zone 2 and 3 duty (Bar and Patio).

Hope the NAD sounds good with the Sherwood.
post #1294 of 1650
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Originally Posted by Carnajo View Post

Hi guys,

I'm new owner of one of these, still need to set it up though. I have a quick question on the 230V model (EU and UK), my manual says the speaker outs can accept "banana plugs (120V model only)".

This seems like a pretty arbitrary limitation, anybody actually use banana plugs with this receiver? Is there a reason the 240V requires bare wire? May be related to voltage but I still don't see why. The binding posts have plugs over the jacks but if I remove the plastic plug it seems like they'll still accept banana plugs.

Strangely enough, they are not legal for use in Europe because they can be accidentally plugged into a wall outlet. It's code so the manufacturers have no choice. Maybe they are the same code writers that make those little tags on hair dryers that say "don't use this in the bathtub". The US models also have the small plastic plug that pops out so I suspect it is more complicated than just removing it. I understand there is a company (WBT?) that makes a Euro-approved banana plugs so you might want to investigate further.

I use banana plugs but have the US model.
post #1295 of 1650
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Originally Posted by jskibo View Post

Just picked up one of these open box from Crutchfield. Its going in the home theater replacing an Onkyo RC160 since I need pre-outs for the Sherwood A965 I picked up.

The Onkyo will be moved to Zone 2 and 3 duty (Bar and Patio).

Hope the NAD sounds good with the Sherwood.

Wow, 1000+ watts of real power. 2 toroidal transformers, seven discrete amps, 80lbs, what a beast. I played around with some of the early Sherwood Newcastle separates back in the 90's and they were very high quality with a very "British character" much like the NAD's. I'm sure that NAD will sound just great with it.

Be sure to report back once you get it all hooked up. By the way, where did you pick up the Sherwood?
post #1296 of 1650
Got the Sherwood from Audiogon for a steal, less than the T747. Total out for both was less than $1000!
post #1297 of 1650
Thanks, outstanding pick-up.
post #1298 of 1650
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Originally Posted by Marty913 View Post

Strangely enough, they are not legal for use in Europe because they can be accidentally plugged into a wall outlet. It's code so the manufacturers have no choice. Maybe they are the same code writers that make those little tags on hair dryers that say "don't use this in the bathtub". The US models also have the small plastic plug that pops out so I suspect it is more complicated than just removing it. I understand there is a company (WBT?) that makes a Euro-approved banana plugs so you might want to investigate further.

I use banana plugs but have the US model.

Thanks for the reply. I guess the same could be said for mini jacks

Well, I'm in South Africa and know of no such code here (banana plugs are readily available), was just wondering why this receiver had this quirk/incompatability. Funnily enough the banana plugs came from the NAD supplier for use in my rig, so I should be good to go, but was concerned cause the manual said 120V only (they made it seem voltage related rather than location/code related).
post #1299 of 1650
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Originally Posted by Carnajo View Post

Thanks for the reply. I guess the same could be said for mini jacks

Well, I'm in South Africa and know of no such code here (banana plugs are readily available), was just wondering why this receiver had this quirk/incompatibility. Funnily enough the banana plugs came from the NAD supplier for use in my rig, so I should be good to go, but was concerned cause the manual said 120V only (they made it seem voltage related rather than location/code related).

Since NAD has British roots I'm pretty sure the 240 vs 120 are the two models (North American & European) that NAD sells. Those two models may be wired differently or have different size binding post holes so you may not be good to go. The only way is to try it or wait for one of our 240v members to chime in (if they use banana plugs of course).
post #1300 of 1650
I'm in Australia and it certainly accepts banana plugs.

Just pop the little plug out and stick the banana in!
post #1301 of 1650
Thanks very much Marty and Wags, I also got confirmation from the NAD distributors here that the banana plugs work fine.
post #1302 of 1650
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Originally Posted by Carnajo View Post
Thanks very much Marty and Wags, I also got confirmation from the NAD distributors here that the banana plugs work fine.
Good news, thanks for letting us know. Now just remember not to wire is all up while you're standing in the bathtub and you should be OK with the "tag & code police".
post #1303 of 1650
any one has hooked up Vienna Acoustics to this AVR and could give me some input of how it sounds ( currently i have denon 2809ci)
post #1304 of 1650
Okay, my T-747 finally arrived last night. Setup was easy--I did not use the supplied microphone, but used an SPL meter and Digital Video Essentials.
The menu system is clunky, and the remote control is not very responsive. But my Harmony One has the T-747 controls now.
I left the video setup set at "Auto" for resolution/framerate, and since I reverted my blu-ray playback software back to a version that does not automatically output 24p, all is working fine at 1080p60.
The main attraction to a AVR should be the sound, and the NAD T-747 delivers great sound. It seems very clean, and plenty powerful. The 60-watt rating is well-documented to deliver more actual power than Denon receivers rated at 100W.
The settings that allow the user to establish what modes should be used for different audio content are worthwhile. I have it set to play 2-channel music as just plain stereo, Dolby Digital soundtracks as Dolby PLIIx, DTS soundtracks as DTS Neo:6 Cinema, and of course Dolby True HD and DTS-HD Master Audio untouched.
I am pleased with the purchase, and the reduced price from Crutchfield made it a bargain.
post #1305 of 1650
Nice little review. Mine arrives tomorrow but I'm stuck in Tampa until late Friday. Won't matter as the theater was just framed today so I have awhile to just stare at it. Perhaps I should set it up in the family room for now....
post #1306 of 1650
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Originally Posted by jskibo View Post

Nice little review. Mine arrives tomorrow but I'm stuck in Tampa until late Friday. Won't matter as the theater was just framed today so I have awhile to just stare at it. Perhaps I should set it up in the family room for now....

I would. Then if there are any issues with the unit you'll still be within the exchange policy.
post #1307 of 1650
Plus you get to play around with it, get used to the settings, and get a taste of the great sound that awaits you. If you're using a Harmony-type remote you could get all that programmed, decide what listening modes you like, etc. A lot of good reasons to tear into that thing. (come on, you know you want to).
post #1308 of 1650
Well, mine arrived from Crutchfield today. Amazingly, the low-key looks and simple operation really impressed my wife. I did a quick install and everything seems to be working fine. I'll take some time tomorrow and tweak it more and report back.
post #1309 of 1650
Got mine yesterday. Setup wasn't too bad, but had to read the manual first. I was playing FM and pressing the right arrow did not make the OSD display.. A little figuring got that up pretty quick though.

I'm still trying to figure all the modes out.

One question, though. Does your subwoofer play in Stereo mode? I'm still trying to get mine to play... but, haven't spent time messing with it today yet..

Dave
post #1310 of 1650
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Originally Posted by Superdavetx View Post

Got mine yesterday. Setup wasn't too bad, but had to read the manual first. I was playing FM and pressing the right arrow did not make the OSD display.. A little figuring got that up pretty quick though.

I'm still trying to figure all the modes out.

One question, though. Does your subwoofer play in Stereo mode? I'm still trying to get mine to play... but, haven't spent time messing with it today yet..

Dave

sub will play in stereo mode as long as it is stereo and not analog-bypass and you have setup the fronts as small and not large. You might want to create a separate preset where you can change the sub level to your liking!
post #1311 of 1650
Sub will play in stereo mode only if front left and right are configured as small, and will cutoff per freq selection (commonly 80 hz).
post #1312 of 1650
Thanks Guys. I will have to continue playing with settings.

I changed the "Listening Mode" to 5 channel stereo and got output.

I did have my speakers at Small and 80hz. Which means that my mains get everything down to 80Hz? And sub gets 80 and below.. right?

I was initially testing this with Tuner as the source. I still need to read more of the manual... I just need to some to play.. looking forward to the weekend!
post #1313 of 1650
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Originally Posted by Superdavetx View Post

Thanks Guys. I will have to continue playing with settings.

I changed the "Listening Mode" to 5 channel stereo and got output.

I did have my speakers at Small and 80hz. Which means that my mains get everything down to 80Hz? And sub gets 80 and below.. right?

I was initially testing this with Tuner as the source. I still need to read more of the manual... I just need to some to play.. looking forward to the weekend!

Yes, you've got the idea.

I got my t747 yesterday too and got it installed shortly after. I was able to do an auto-eq on the system and yes, it messed up a few things. But, the eq work it did for my sub corrected some major issues with placement. So, for now I'm leaving it on. I did adjust the volume of one of the speakers, right front, which was off by -4db. I'm noticing a lot better sound quality. Its pulling in a ton more ambience and detail, even from Dolby Digital sources. Plus, the sound stage is much more seamless. I have a pretty standard 5.1 setup and the rears are mounted pretty close to the listening spot. With my Yamaha 5750 it was fairly easy to tell where there were at and what they were doing. This system manages to blend them into the fronts much better. Plus, the fronts and center seem to be working together a lot better.

Honestly, I'm pretty impressed with the sq. I didn't think I would see nearly this much of an improvement from just a receiver swap. a+

However, the best part of this is the waf. She always complained about the older system's ease of use. I went through the config and simplified everything I could, even reducing the display on the NAD to just one line, source. Aside from a couple of juvenile jokes about playing with my nads, she's had nothing but positive things to say about the low-key appearance and simple operation. Thats a complete shocker. Usually there's at least a little grumbling about spending some money on another toy. She has already told me she's impressed this time. I'm dumbstruck.

Anyway, consider my first impressions of the Nad t747 entirely and completely positive. a+
post #1314 of 1650
Well, I just got paid today, and I immediately bought this puppy. I got the open box set from crutchfield and saved quite a bit of money. Now the wait until Tuesday... I am coming from a Denon 1709, it should be a huge improvement.
post #1315 of 1650
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Originally Posted by ThePandemonium View Post

Well, I just got paid today, and I immediately bought this puppy. I got the open box set from crutchfield and saved quite a bit of money. Now the wait until Tuesday... I am coming from a Denon 1709, it should be a huge improvement.

I would think so. I came from a Yamaha that is even older and I was surprised how much of an improvement it was.
post #1316 of 1650
I was upgrading from a sony strd 845 (circa 2000) and the difference is dramatic!
post #1317 of 1650
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Originally Posted by ThePandemonium View Post
Well, I just got paid today, and I immediately bought this puppy. I got the open box set from crutchfield and saved quite a bit of money. Now the wait until Tuesday... I am coming from a Denon 1709, it should be a huge improvement.
Just got my open box one today. I guess its open boox because the bag with the remote was opened. Rest of everything is sealed and new.

Only have the center Magnepan so far. Guess I'll look for my old TSC RC1's. Sherwood amp doesn't come for another week or so.
post #1318 of 1650
Hi all,

Pretty new to AVS but I get lots of information. I am looking for a new A/V receiver and have been looking with interest at the NAD T747. I've also been reading reviews of the Pioneer VSX-1021 which seems to be a "bang for the buck" unit. I am running a Panasonic TC-P50G25 plasma, Panasonic BD-85 bluray, Marantz 5004 CD, Rega Planar 1 for vinyl, and a Definitive Technology ProCinema 100 speaker system (4 Promonitor 100s, Procenter 100 and the Prosub 100) with two of the 10 inch subs. Upon DTs recommendation, I will probably upgrade the fronts to ProMonitor 1000s and use the 100 in the rear for 7.1. I'm looking to find out what would go good with this system and if anyone has a different recommendation in this price range (< $600). Thanks for any and all help.
post #1319 of 1650
NAD for sound quality.

Pioneer for bells-and-whistles.

With your equipment I'd go for the NAD.
post #1320 of 1650
Thanks Wags22, I had read that the NAD was musically superior. I looked at the Pioneer because of the supposed video processing of the NAD having some issues according to a few of the professional reviews. Its not really a concern because I will use the Panny BD for the processing and the receiver for sound and neither is HDMI 1.4 because its hard for me to see 3D due to being born crosseyed and limiting my depth perception to 50%, LOL!
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