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Reon-VX in video scaler?

post #1 of 14
10/30/10 at 7:40am
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As I mentioned in another thread, I bought the Samsung BD-C6900 BD-player and now am a little disappointed of the picture quality. That's because my old Samsung BD-P2500 BD-player had a Reon-VX chip and the image with "sharpness" set to low (resulting in a little edge enhancement) gave me a wonderful, natural sharp image.

Since the C6900 is wonderful in any other aspect, I wondered if I could just take the digital video signal via HDMI and connect it with a unit that has the Reon-VX so I get the edge enhancement the P2500 so wonderfully achieved.

Thus I wonder, is there maybe just a separate video scaler or something like that which has the Reon-VX chip? I really don't need a new receiver at the moment. If such a unit doesn't exist, can you recommend me a cheap receiver with Reon-VX?

Thank you!
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post #2 of 14
10/30/10 at 2:35pm
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Originally Posted by Remington Steele View Post

Since the C6900 is wonderful in any other aspect, I wondered if I could just take the digital video signal via HDMI and connect it with a unit that has the Reon-VX so I get the edge enhancement the P2500 so wonderfully achieved.

This would only work optimally if your C6900 could output 480i and/or "source direct" via HDMI and that does not appear to be the case.

Unless you require the C6900 for 3D it would be far cheaper to return the C6900 and buy a Blu Ray player with excellent video processing (example Oppo BDP-83/93) than to add a dedicated video processor to your chain...and yes, you can find Reon-powered video processors.
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post #3 of 14
10/31/10 at 1:38am
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This would only work optimally if your C6900 could output 480i and/or "source direct" via HDMI and that does not appear to be the case.

Yes, but do you think there would at least be a chance the picture might be equally to the P2500? I mean, maybe the edge enhancement done by the Reon-VX does work as good even though the video has been processed by the C6900 before?

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Originally Posted by bluechunks View Post

Unless you require the C6900 for 3D it would be far cheaper to return the C6900 and buy a Blu Ray player with excellent video processing (example Oppo BDP-83/93) than to add a dedicated video processor to your chain...and yes, you can find Reon-powered video processors.

Interesting, can you give me the name of such video processors with Reon-VX? I can't seem to find them anywhere!
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post #4 of 14
10/31/10 at 1:42pm
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Interesting, can you give me the name of such video processors with Reon-VX? I can't seem to find them anywhere!

I'm not aware of any standalone processors that are built around the Reon, only the HQV.
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post #5 of 14
11/3/10 at 6:04pm
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I'm not aware of any standalone processors that are built around the Reon, only the HQV.

You are absolutely correct, I was thinking of the Realta.
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post #6 of 14
11/4/10 at 2:09am
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do you mean there is a standalone video processor with the Realta? Can you give me the model name?

Also, I'm wondering: Does the Oppo 83 or 93 have such internal video processing that does edge enhancement as good as the Reon-VX, so I could just buy the Oppo and wouldn't need an additional video processor?
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post #7 of 14
11/4/10 at 6:31am
The Denon 602 that AVS just had on a massive closeout sale, has Realta.

Perhaps, demo the Oppo 93 player when it is released? I believe they have a 30 day return window. It has the Marvell QDEO processor.

The Oppo 83 has Edge Enhancement and Detail Enhancement, which are known to be pretty good implementations from ABT. Better than a basic Edge Enhancement.
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post #8 of 14
11/4/10 at 8:16am
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...so I could just buy the Oppo and wouldn't need an additional video processor?

Generally, yes.

However, you may wish to consider a dedicated processor if you have multiple sources to de-interlace/scale (examples: cable box, sat TV, DVD, ect...) IMHO, the most bang for the buck at the entry-level is the DVDO Edge (AVS thread.)

Prior to the Oppo BDP-83 I used the Toshiba HD-XA2 (HD-DVD player) that used a Reon for video processing. IMHO, both were excellent at de-interlcaing and scaling DVD's to 1080p; if you liked the Reon-VX in the 2500 you would like the ABT2010 in the BDP-83. I have not seen the QDEO in action on a -93, but from everything I have read it is also excellent.

This is veering off-topic so I would suggest further discussion over on the Blu Ray section of AVS. (Hint: there is an absolutely massive thread on the BDP-83.) Also, check out the unofficial BDP-83 FAQ.

Cheers!
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post #9 of 14
11/7/10 at 8:23am
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thank you 2 for these infos.

Do you think the Oppo's 83 edge enhancement really is equal or better to the Reon-VX's? Have you tested it on a large diagonal like I did? (I have a 2.5 yard screen)

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The Denon 602 that AVS just had on a massive closeout sale, has Realta.

Interesting! Can you give me a hint where I can find it in Europe? Thank you...
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post #10 of 14
11/7/10 at 8:46am
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Interesting! Can you give me a hint where I can find it in Europe? Thank you...

AFAIK the close-out sale here at AVS was the last of Denon's stock. You might be able to find one in a dedicated HT shop, but they'll most likely be quite expensive as compared to the closeout price of $299 (original MSRP was $2500). There's a couple reasonable deals on eBay and Audio/Videogon.
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post #11 of 14
11/8/10 at 11:51am
The Onkyos have HQV Reon VX. I have not tried edge enhancement on my Onkyo 3007. I let my DVDO iScan Duo do my processing, which of course uses an Anchor Bay chip. I do not turn on any edge enhancement though.

If you decide on a DVDO product, spend a little more and get the Duo. The CMS is well worth the added cost.
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post #12 of 14
11/8/10 at 3:39pm
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The Onkyos have HQV Reon VX. I have not tried edge enhancement on my Onkyo 3007. I let my DVDO iScan Duo do my processing, which of course uses an Anchor Bay chip. I do not turn on any edge enhancement though.

If you decide on a DVDO product, spend a little more and get the Duo. The CMS is well worth the added cost.

It does, but the OP is looking for a standalone processor, and buying a receiver just for the Reon VP chip would be a little overkill. Unless he's willing to replace his entire receiver.
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post #13 of 14
11/9/10 at 7:21am
He also mentioned a "cheap" receiver if there was no stand alone processor. The Onkyo 3007/3008 may not qualify as "cheap" depending on your point of view, but I thought I would at least mention it, since it (and the more expensive 5007/5008) is the only receiver that I know of that uses the HQV Reon VX.
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post #14 of 14
11/10/10 at 9:17am
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It does, but the OP is looking for a standalone processor, and buying a receiver just for the Reon VP chip would be a little overkill. Unless he's willing to replace his entire receiver.

He originally posted this in the AVR section so...
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