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post #3481 of 5101
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Originally Posted by dr_hsu View Post

That is a nice job of hiding the equipment! You always want to fine tune after you get the sub in the final position.

Thanks! After the carpet and chairs are in I'll have a great deal of fun fine tuning everything. So far I've just been tracking down any rattles and silencing them. I was worried that the sub may move a bit but with the isolation pucks I added to the bottom I haven't seen a shift in the platform at all (it's on wheels). Originally I had some foam isolation pads wedged between the sides of the platform and the enclosure wall but that actually transmitted more vibrations than not having them at all.

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post #3482 of 5101
Getting pioneer 1222 av receiver today.
I've learned MCAAC EQ. program will not eq the sub. How do I setup my hsu package and my vtf-15 sub?
post #3483 of 5101
You get Audyssey multi EQ at the least...
post #3484 of 5101
I don't have experience with other than Audyssey but I can not imagine not having it. Especially if you are spending money on an 15H. my bass was out of control, not that I dislike it since I am a basshead hence my sub choice. But after Audyssey it is so controlled, precise, accurate, and pleasant. After learning about Audyssey I can't understand why I would use anything else. I mean no slander at all against any other brands. smile.gif

http://www.audyssey.com/audio-technology/multeq/tour
post #3485 of 5101
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Originally Posted by jlm86 View Post

Getting pioneer 1222 av receiver today.
I've learned MCAAC EQ. program will not eq the sub. How do I setup my hsu package and my vtf-15 sub?

First you want to find the best placement for the sub by at least doing a sub crawl.
Here is a good place to start for general setup questions.
http://www.avsforum.com/t/824554/setting-up-your-home-theater-101

Here are some posts in this thread.
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1288202/the-official-hsu-vtf-15h-thread/3060#post_22616685

Here is a thread for mcacc
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1112470/official-pioneer-mcacc-thread

Enjoy!smile.gif
post #3486 of 5101
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Originally Posted by jlpowell84 View Post

I don't have experience with other than Audyssey but I can not imagine not having it. Especially if you are spending money on an 15H. my bass was out of control, not that I dislike it since I am a basshead hence my sub choice. But after Audyssey it is so controlled, precise, accurate, and pleasant. After learning about Audyssey I can't understand why I would use anything else. I mean no slander at all against any other brands. smile.gif

http://www.audyssey.com/audio-technology/multeq/tour

I'm right there with you. I have 2 15H's in a smaller room and they were about to take over...lol. Thankfully my avr has Audyssey XT which helped me get them under control.
post #3487 of 5101
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Originally Posted by Prime316 View Post

I won't blow smoke up your behind. There are a lot of good options out there as far as subs go. I'm sure you've seen them if you've spent a few mins checking the different threads in this forum. A great many of them will dip down to the levels the 15H will go and some a little lower but for the price, I don't think you're going to do much better anywhere. I own dual 15H's and they have treated me well.

It is testimonials like yours that reassure myself in knowing that I am making the right move. It just got the brain thinking about frequencies below 16Hz. Everyone who is part of the Hsu family has nothing but great things to say about this sub so I am all in!!
post #3488 of 5101
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Originally Posted by Prime316 View Post

I won't blow smoke up your behind. There are a lot of good options out there as far as subs go. I'm sure you've seen them if you've spent a few mins checking the different threads in this forum. A great many of them will dip down to the levels the 15H will go and some a little lower but for the price, I don't think you're going to do much better anywhere. I own dual 15H's and they have treated me well.

It is testimonials like yours that reassure myself in knowing that I am making the right move. It just got the brain thinking about frequencies below 16Hz. Everyone who is part of the Hsu family has nothing but great things to say about this sub so I am all in!!

I have a pair in my 4500^3 room. I measure them as low as 13hz (in my room) before they rolloff as ported subs do. I don't have a single complaint and i've owned them for over 2 years now. ( I bought my first one the same week it was released)
They work very well for my usage.
post #3489 of 5101
Anyone have a vtf15 that they would consider parting with? Please PM if so. Thank you.
post #3490 of 5101
Doing my research as I always do before buying audio equipment. I think my SVS PCI is damaged and am in the market for a subwoofer.

I have a few pics in my HT gallery if interested. Has anyone had experience with the VTF-15H and Anthem and if so what are the impressions. Dr. Hsu if your'e available, love to hear your feedback as well!
post #3491 of 5101
I have a VTF15H and an Anthem MRX300. ARC does an great job EQing the bass.
post #3492 of 5101
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Originally Posted by Legairre View Post

I have a VTF15H and an Anthem MRX300. ARC does an great job EQing the bass.

hey thanks, what are your opinions on the performance of the HSU ?
post #3493 of 5101
The 15H is a serious sub. In my room when I had a BFD before going to and SMS-1 and now ARC I measured it down 13Hz.. Mine is set to 1 port open, EQ1 & Q 0.5. Before the15H I had dual VTF-3 MK2 than were good to 18Hz. Then I went to the VTF-3 HO with turbo. The 15H digs deeper and is tighter than my previous Hsu subs. Another thing about the 15H that I love is the tactile feeling it gives. My theater in our finished basement and is carpet over concrete and the 15H moves a lot of air and shakes the seating when you don't even hear any bass. I love the way you feel the seats rumble from an engine or other things in a movie in a subtle way. Then it can really hit hard and make you go WOW.

I'm not sure what sub you're coming from but you should be prepared for the size as well as the sound because it big. It comes in a box that is literally the size of a washing machine. Mine is hidden behind the front left speaker so no one can really see it. BTW pictures do not do this sub justice. It's a really nice looking sub with great fit and finish. it's not the typical vinyl covered sub.


Edited by Legairre - 3/2/13 at 8:37pm
post #3494 of 5101
Really appreciate the reply, I was going to buy another SVS but figured I would check around a little bit more. This really helps and i haven't had a sub that can move air or pressurize a room yet and am assuming this one can and does.
post #3495 of 5101
How well it pressurizes the room will depend on the size of the room. My room is 13x24 and sealed so it does a really good job of pressurizing it. How large is your room?
post #3496 of 5101
I am new to AVS, I have been reading post for about a year and decided to finally make an account. I am addicted to bass and have purchased 5 subwoofers in the past year. I'm ready to move into the 1k range. I'm having a difficult time picking between the HSU VTF15 and the PSA XS30. Does any one here have experience with both? I am upgrading from a PA-150 subwoofer. I use my subwoofer for 75% movies and 25% music. It will be overkill for my room but any sub can be turned down, I just want one that will have the abilty to perform with clarity when turned up. PSA has gained a following quickly but HSU is proven. Any advice at all is welcome!
post #3497 of 5101
you won't be disappointed with either. smile.gif If you're leaning towards one over the other, then just do it. Don't settle. Get the one you 'really' want. Or flip a coin. Both are huge performers.

I've not heard either particular model, but I do have dual HSU subs. They rock.. The PSA's have serious heavy hitters behind that company, and I've seen nothing that would sway me away from them. Very satisfied customers and excellent reviews for both. At the level you're shopping, and just between those 2 companies, and based on the fact you mention the PA-150... either would be a huge improvement.

IMO, of course. Neither of those were an option when I made my purchase, but you'll get big, cheek hurting smiles from either.
post #3498 of 5101
Thanks for the advice! Yes both would be a sure improvement. Do you own dual hsu VTF 15 subs? One of the main reasons why HSU is at the top of my list is the optional ported or sealed option. With PSA I would have to pick one, when I enjoy the aspects of both.
post #3499 of 5101
You're very welcome. I have dual VTF3's of the mk 3 variety. They do not offer the ported / sealed option. The VTF 15 was not offered when I bought my 1st. That ported / sealed option 'trickled down' to their other subs later... which became the mk 4. I had to choose one or the other, also. I chose ported, and the VTF 3 was their top tier ported sub at the time. FWIW, I was upgrading from a subwoofer in an entry level Onkyo HTIB. think , oh... fart box cheap. eek.gif

For me, at the time, purchasing a $750 ish sub was quite the leap. The entire HTIB was right about $100. I first replaced the other speakers with Polk Monitor 70's, a CS2, and 50's for rears, and the little 'fart box' just couldn't hang. I spent many, many hours reading and researching, and hadn't even heard of HSU at the time. I'd never heard a 'real' subwoofer, at all. What I didn't want to do was buy something I wouldn't be happy with. I chose HSU for many reasons... user reviews, very few units for sale on the used market, good resale prices on the few completed sales on Ebay I could find, and even the warm fuzzy feeling I got from calling and talking to them... (thanks Pete, wherever you are!). After deciding that was the company I was comfortable purchasing from, I bought the best they offered. Trying to avoid the 'what if I'd only spent a little more..." second guessing I know that I would have done. I wanted the right tool the first time.

It was the day after my order went into 'shipped status', they introduced the VTF 15. Maybe two days. I did feel a little 'deflated'. I got over it quickly, though. Probably within 5 minutes of the delivery. Huge box. Wifey went eek.gif and I just went smile.gif After 5 minutes of setting it up and hitting the play button.... words just don't do justice to what I felt. Just a whole lot of biggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gif. Then wifey went rolleyes.gif, said "I'm glad you're happy". She's a keeper.

Sorry to ramble... just sharing my experience. But, I still have no doubt the PSA is an incredible performer. They just didn't exist then. If they had, who knows. I do have family in Mineral Ridge, and was there (in that city) during their Grand Opening weekend, and really wanted to go... but it was not a good time... said goodbye to my grandmother.... she was 97. don't mean to be a downbringer, just wasn't a good time...

Again, my personal recommendation would be HSU, because that's what I own, and am extremely happy with their products. So much so, I bought a second, matching VTF 3. Here again, it was right before the mk4 was introduced... literally days before, but I don't regret it at all... my timing just sucks sometimes. S'ok, because it's easier to incorporate 2 identical subs... less options are sometimes better. wink.gif.

Either way, please report back with your decision, and your opinions after you get it (or them eek.gif ) . It may help others facing a similar choice.

sincerely, Joseph
post #3500 of 5101
Thank you for the informative reply Joseph!

I know exactly what you mean started my obsession little over a year ago with a HTIB from Yamaha, it had a little 8 inch sub. Made some noise and was better than my computer set so I was content for all of 3 days but then I got the feeling we all know too well “that sounds good, but I can do better”

I’m a 21 year old min wage college student that is obsessed with acquiring quality home theater equipment, not the extremely loud distorted painful sound that my age group is all too well known for
Instead of hitting the bars I saved for something better. I purchased monitor 70’s for the fronts, went with a CS1 for my center, and DV84 towers for the rear. Running 7.1 HD audio in a bedroom not because it makes sense, but because I cant resist. I started with the PSW 505, major disappointment especially when my Dayton 12 inch sub destroyed it. Traded it in and went for the bic f12, it was better but lacked the power I wanted for strong LFE scenes.

I was debating between the PL-200 and PA-150 for a while and decided to get the PA-150. Complete overkill for my room but hell so was the 60inch Samsung plasma, go big or go home. I was thinking long and hard about getting an HSU sub but my budget at the time was around 350-400. I just couldn’t see myself purchasing a 10 inch HSU sub after owning 3 12’s

Now I have made it to the 1k range and looked at EPIK, Rythmik, HSU, PSA, SVS and the other ID brands we all know so well. The fact that Dr. HSU actually gets on forums and talks to his customers speaks volumes about HSU customer service. Im thinking I will go with the VTF-15h and possibly add a second later (to be honest then a 3rd and 4th ). I have heard talk of HSU possibly introducing an 18” to its already impressive selection. Anybody think this is a possibility? I would happily spend 2k on one of those.
post #3501 of 5101
Hey,
I have had my hsu for a few weeks and I think I have it almost exactly where i want with tweaking. I prefer sealed , eq1, .6. Sub is a foot from the wall in the corner and I have denon avr 789 with audyssey eq. I am happy with the bass output except for one frequency. I don't know the hz but the best example is in Bruno Mars , Just the way you are song. At the 53 second mark for four seconds there is a big bass passage. It is just too loud. Its in your face in a bad way. That four second spot repeats a couple of times later in the song.

Can someone else listen to the song with only one hsu vtf 15 and tell me if that spot jumps out to them ? When I am listening to movies/music/ or tv usually the sub level is perfect, except the odd spot here or their. Its not very often and maybe I'm nitpicking. (Once every 2-3 hours of listening... just enough to think I have it perfect and then bam... wife looks at me and gives me that look like too much bass. ) I have sub at 9'oclock position and sub level on denon at 0.
thanks
post #3502 of 5101
That is probably a room mode characteristic. Without EQ or room treatments they are hard to tame. Try moving he sub a little tonsee if it helps. Did you do the subwoofer crawl?
post #3503 of 5101
I have moved the sub around. Just curious for someone else to hear the bruno mars song and let me know if it rumbles in their room. I don't have a dedicated home theater room so I am a bit limited.
post #3504 of 5101
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Originally Posted by chaluga View Post

I have moved the sub around. Just curious for someone else to hear the bruno mars song and let me know if it rumbles in their room. I don't have a dedicated home theater room so I am a bit limited.

I'll try it Tomm. Obvious question but did you run Audyssey Mine was out of control until I got my Denon 3313. I got Audyssey finally to set it at -3db with it at about 8:30-8:45ish. I then turned it up to +1db which doesn't offset any of Audysseys EQ. Only messing with the gain knob or others settings on the sub would do so. Now it's controlled yet strong and precise.
post #3505 of 5101
Ran audyssey and I'm using similar settings of. Just before 9 o'clock and minus 1 db. I hooked my laptop up to receiver and used aimp to play Bruno song. Then adjusted 63hz down minus 3db and it was perfect for level. Quality of overall sound was not god compared to my dune media player. I think the solution is to buy emotiva. Umc 200 preamp. And use its eq to dial in the sound. Will also contact gik for some room treatments .
post #3506 of 5101
Well I finally ran that song. I forgot. It does kick in with some power at that time in the song. It wasn't out of control though for me.
post #3507 of 5101
^I think that recording is strong in the bass department.
post #3508 of 5101
Thanks
post #3509 of 5101
Hi all, I am getting ready to upgrade my old school boomy sub for a dual system; I'm about 95% certain I am going with the VTF-15s. My room is about 3000 cubic feet. Interestingly, Dr. Hsu emailed me back with placement options and mentioned using one VTF-15 and one MBM-12 for my space. I would like stick to the same sub model for aesthetics, and since I am not sure what future space I might be in, want to make sure the subs will be capable for any environment.

I always read about Hsu and SVS. Are there any former SVS owners that came over to Hsu, or vice versa? I asked a similar question in the SVS thread, but no takers.
post #3510 of 5101
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Originally Posted by SergeantYnot View Post

Hi all, I am getting ready to upgrade my old school boomy sub for a dual system; I'm about 95% certain I am going with the VTF-15s. My room is about 3000 cubic feet. Interestingly, Dr. Hsu emailed me back with placement options and mentioned using one VTF-15 and one MBM-12 for my space. I would like stick to the same sub model for aesthetics, and since I am not sure what future space I might be in, want to make sure the subs will be capable for any environment.

I always read about Hsu and SVS. Are there any former SVS owners that came over to Hsu, or vice versa? I asked a similar question in the SVS thread, but no takers.


No, I haven't been in the game long enough to switch over. I expect to have my current subs for the next 5 years or so. You always wonder if the grass is greener on the other side though.
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