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post #3841 of 5093
I prefer 0.5, but like the deeper dig of eq1 1 port.

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post #3842 of 5093
^ One of my favorite demo scenes lately is at the end of Saving Private Ryan, when the tank blows up the house across the bridge. That boom nearly throws me out of my seat.
post #3843 of 5093
So when I was originally setting these up, the manual's first suggestion was to place both subs next to each other. What benefit will this have besides having similarly equalized subs? Has anyone tried this before?

I have my subs on each side of the room, thinking that will help balance out the LFE and create overall better equalization for people sitting away from the sweet spot.
post #3844 of 5093
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Originally Posted by SergeantYnot View Post

So when I was originally setting these up, the manual's first suggestion was to place both subs next to each other.
That's a very odd suggestion. Read this:
http://www.harman.com/EN-US/OurCompany/Innovation/Documents/White%20Papers/multsubs.pdf
post #3845 of 5093
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The manual calls for at least 12" from the back wall and at least 30" from the sidewalls. When I moved them I went from about 20" to 13. My left is 4.5" from the audio cabinet and the right about 3" from a short wall.



This is prior to moving the mains back.

Nice diagram! Looking at this, have you ever thought about swapping places with the sub and moving it to the "table" on the left? Or what about facing the sub with the driver faced horizontally behind the TV?

The wife is the biggest reason I don’t move stuff around. For me it’s a home theater first, but with her it’s a living room first. I want to eat so you know who wins that one. mad.gif

There’s not as much space as the drawing suggest. Besides, looking at my graphs I’m convinced that it’s my mains that have the problem at around 80Hz. When I have some time I’ll play around with their position to see what happens, but after the first of the year I’ll be replacing them.
post #3846 of 5093
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^ One of my favorite demo scenes lately is at the end of Saving Private Ryan, when the tank blows up the house across the bridge. That boom nearly throws me out of my seat.

I haven't watched that since before I got my Hsu. I'm gonna have to check that out soon now that I have a sub with some serious ooomph!
post #3847 of 5093
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I haven't watched that since before I got my Hsu. I'm gonna have to check that out soon now that I have a sub with some serious ooomph!

Saving Private Ryan in general is an LFE delight; the beginning sequence of course. The surround track is also impressive. I remember seeing it twice in the theater, and the whole ending sequence is a sound paradise. The beginning where the tank is approaching them felt dreadfully realistic. When you get to the last tank explosion scene I mentioned, make sure you turn the volume down a few notches, that LFE punch really comes out of nowhere!
post #3848 of 5093
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Hi all,

I have 2 ports open and EQ2. I adjusted the Q setting from 0.5 to 0.7, and then to 0.3. 0.7 seemed almost too boomy, where 0.3 was less of an impact. I am still loving the bass thump of 0.5.

Yea, sat ima flip my sub back around and try these settings
post #3849 of 5093
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Hi all,

I have 2 ports open and EQ2. I adjusted the Q setting from 0.5 to 0.7, and then to 0.3. 0.7 seemed almost too boomy, where 0.3 was less of an impact. I am still loving the bass thump of 0.5.

Yea, sat ima flip my sub back around and try these settings

Here’s my baby squeezed in between the left speaker and the TV. I’m only about 3” from the wall. The other side of the TV has even less space. So no room for another VTF-15H, but I think that I could squeeze in a MBM-12 MK2 Mid-Bass Module, but that’s a battle for another time. biggrin.gif

post #3850 of 5093
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Here’s my baby squeezed in between the left speaker and the TV. I’m only about 3” from the wall. The other side of the TV has even less space. So no room for another VTF-15H, but I think that I could squeeze in a MBM-12 MK2 Mid-Bass Module, but that’s a battle for another time. biggrin.gif


Nice Tom! They are a space taker. I am gonna go back to 2 ports open EQ 2 but do Q at .5 rather than .3 then pull it out a little way from the corner.
post #3851 of 5093
For giggles I decided to pull the port plug and switch the toggle for operating mode down to EQ2. Im really hearing more bass now on flicks. I had been on EQ1 1 port for so long, its an obvious change. I might be leaving it this way, it just seems to be more of a presence in my room now. Audyssey MultiEQXT was of course ran with EQ 1, 1 port and Q 0.7. Only thing I did until now was turn Q to 0.5.
post #3852 of 5093
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Originally Posted by gadgtfreek View Post

For giggles I decided to pull the port plug and switch the toggle for operating mode down to EQ2. Im really hearing more bass now on flicks. I had been on EQ1 1 port for so long, its an obvious change. I might be leaving it this way, it just seems to be more of a presence in my room now. Audyssey MultiEQXT was of course ran with EQ 1, 1 port and Q 0.7. Only thing I did until now was turn Q to 0.5.

I think the hybrid approach of 1 port plugged really has qualities of a sealed sub. I suppose since my subs have always been ported, that might be my personal preference. Since all the reviews seem to point to 1 port plugged, I gave that a whirl for a couple weeks. As soon as I went to 2 ports open, and tested familiar material, I knew I would never go back. smile.gif
post #3853 of 5093
Yeah, it just has more thump. Maybe not as tight, but I've always had ported subs as well.
post #3854 of 5093
Hello, I have a question regarding a Hsu vtf 15h for sale. It is listed for $700 and said to be a little over a year old and in great condition from original owner. Is this a good price and are there any things to be aware of with this sub? I only heard good things about Hsu from browsing these forums but have little experience.
post #3855 of 5093
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Hello, I have a question regarding a Hsu vtf 15h for sale. It is listed for $700 and said to be a little over a year old and in great condition from original owner. Is this a good price and are there any things to be aware of with this sub? I only heard good things about Hsu from browsing these forums but have little experience.

Normal price I would say. You gotta figure it's over 1000 shipped... Make sure you have him demo it for you. Inspect the woofer for any damage. And cosmetics of course. You can tell a lot by cosmetics IMO.

You will be very happy with this sub
post #3856 of 5093
The Hsu website says the vtf 15h has a seven year warranty. Is this transferrable or only available to the original owner?
post #3857 of 5093
What exactly is Q control. From a technical perspective what is it, how does it work?
post #3858 of 5093
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The Hsu website says the vtf 15h has a seven year warranty. Is this transferrable or only available to the original owner?

Not sure warranty is transferable. Check thier website or call Monday morning
post #3859 of 5093
Ok, finally got the time to flip the sub back around, pulled it out a bit. Back to 2 ports open, EQ 2 and Q at .5 this time. Sounds good!
post #3860 of 5093
^reran Audyssey, tested WOTW and gonna watch the Hulk here soon
post #3861 of 5093
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The Hsu website says the vtf 15h has a seven year warranty. Is this transferrable or only available to the original owner?

7 years on the woofer and a 2 year warranty on the amp. They are transferable.
post #3862 of 5093
Jl, how did our baby do with WOTW?
post #3863 of 5093
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Jl, how did our baby do with WOTW?

It's pretty sweet! One scene when a strip of overpass freeway gets turned over is nuts!

I'm going to post thus here too because it involves my sub plus getting another. biggrin.gif

Future 11.2 system upgrades

Emotiva XPA-5 (900)
HSU VTF 15H subwoofer (1020)
Denon 11 channel AVR (1500)
DT SM 55 (600)
PM 1000s (420)
SR8080BP (700)
Projector (1500)
Screen (300)
Blu ray player


What I already have

CS8040 center channel
ST8060BP towers
PM 1000s (will be back surrounds)
Monster power center
Apple TV
Mac Mini (i7 quad core, 16GB ram)
Ps3 super slim

What I have to be used elsewhere
Panasonic 50ST50 plasma
Denon 3313ci AVR
Cheaper Bly ray
SR8040 surround speakers


This is all picture perfect, but I most likely will just keep the SR8040 surrounds as side surrounds to cut on costs. I'm not sure if 700 or a little less for upgrading to the SR8080 as side surrounds is worth it. I must ask myself if that cost is worth the experience. Note: I haven't heard the SR8080 surrounds. Also I haven't done any research on projectors but I know I can get a good 1080p for a decent price. Also I have done zero research on the benefits of a higher quality blu ray vs the basic Panasonic one I have now. All of this will have to take place after fall as I am getting married this November. All though I may be able to squeeze in one of the items to get it out of the way. But I see a big bonus every March so perhaps next spring this will be a reality. Also as far as selling the gear that won't be involved I was thinking of keeping the TV for perhaps a downstairs casual TV room with the 3313 used in a 2 channel setting and also I could use it for a zone 2 if wanted at the same time.
post #3864 of 5093
^and posted because you guys are so cool and not uptight like some in other forums;)
post #3865 of 5093
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Originally Posted by jlpowell84 View Post

Ok, finally got the time to flip the sub back around, pulled it out a bit. Back to 2 ports open, EQ 2 and Q at .5 this time. Sounds good!

When you reran Audyssey, did you also use these same settings, or did you do the 1 port/EQ1/Q 0.7 that is usually recommended?
post #3866 of 5093
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Originally Posted by jlpowell84 View Post

It's pretty sweet! One scene when a strip of overpass freeway gets turned over is nuts!

I'm going to post thus here too because it involves my sub plus getting another. biggrin.gif

Future 11.2 system upgrades

Emotiva XPA-5 (900)
HSU VTF 15H subwoofer (1020)
Denon 11 channel AVR (1500)
DT SM 55 (600)
PM 1000s (420)
SR8080BP (700)
Projector (1500)
Screen (300)
Blu ray player


What I already have

CS8040 center channel
ST8060BP towers
PM 1000s (will be back surrounds)
Monster power center
Apple TV
Mac Mini (i7 quad core, 16GB ram)
Ps3 super slim

What I have to be used elsewhere
Panasonic 50ST50 plasma
Denon 3313ci AVR
Cheaper Bly ray
SR8040 surround speakers


This is all picture perfect, but I most likely will just keep the SR8040 surrounds as side surrounds to cut on costs. I'm not sure if 700 or a little less for upgrading to the SR8080 as side surrounds is worth it. I must ask myself if that cost is worth the experience. Note: I haven't heard the SR8080 surrounds. Also I haven't done any research on projectors but I know I can get a good 1080p for a decent price. Also I have done zero research on the benefits of a higher quality blu ray vs the basic Panasonic one I have now. All of this will have to take place after fall as I am getting married this November. All though I may be able to squeeze in one of the items to get it out of the way. But I see a big bonus every March so perhaps next spring this will be a reality. Also as far as selling the gear that won't be involved I was thinking of keeping the TV for perhaps a downstairs casual TV room with the 3313 used in a 2 channel setting and also I could use it for a zone 2 if wanted at the same time.


For projectors in that price range, the choice is super easy: the Benq W7000 or Epson 3010. I personally prefer DLP and would probably go with the W7000.

I would also recommend whatever receiver you get should be 11.2 capable with Audyssey XT32 and DTS NEO:X capable (for the time being this is only the Denon 4520). You can get a refurb of that for close to $1600.
post #3867 of 5093
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7 years on the woofer and a 2 year warranty on the amp. They are transferable.

That's correct. You just need to make sure you keep track of the serial number (on the amplifier plate), and the name of the original purchaser so we can reference it in the future.

Sincerely,
Kevin
Hsu Research

985 N. Shepard Street
Anaheim, CA 92806
P: 714 666 9260
F: 714 666 9261
http://www.hsuresearch.com
post #3868 of 5093
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When you reran Audyssey, did you also use these same settings, or did you do the 1 port/EQ1/Q 0.7 that is usually recommended?

I went to 2 ports open, eq 2 Q .5 firing out into the room at a 45 from a corner but pulled out a little. I was coming from the sub firing into the corner with 1port open, eq 1, q .7. Originally when I first brought it home it was firing from the corner out into the room with 2 ports open eq 2 and q.3.
post #3869 of 5093
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Originally Posted by SergeantYnot View Post

For projectors in that price range, the choice is super easy: the Benq W7000 or Epson 3010. I personally prefer DLP and would probably go with the W7000.

I would also recommend whatever receiver you get should be 11.2 capable with Audyssey XT32 and DTS NEO:X capable (for the time being this is only the Denon 4520). You can get a refurb of that for close to $1600.

Cool ill look into those. I'm not opposed to going higher on a projector if it offers much better hardware. But like I said 1080p is good for me!
On the AVR yes 11.2 is my plan and the 4520 seems to be the obvious choice. I can't imagine it's successor (fall of 2014 projected) will have any significant advantage. Anyway I'm after xt32, ability to amp the front five or three channels, and the necessary listening modes.
post #3870 of 5093
The 4520 is a nice unit! I got the 4311ci when they were on sale and it performs great. XT32 is definitely worth it and if you need more calibration tools these units can be upgraded to XTPro.
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