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Just arrived and holy crap It's a freaking monster!

Niceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!eek.gif
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I appreciate all the well wishes guys, thank you! This is a complete 180 degrees from what I was used too, and I'm going to give it a good test tonight with IM3. I must like my bass extra loud because I do not like how low sub EQ sets it, for me the sub trim was -6 and coupled with 75db it's way to low for my taste. Not just the Hsu I mean my old sub as well, so for me the gain at around the 10-11 o:clock position suits me. Am I the only one?
Edited by comfynumb - 9/27/13 at 4:39pm
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I appreciate all the well wishes guys, thank you! This is a complete 180 degrees from what I was used too, and I'm going to give it a good test tonight with IM3. I must like my bass extra loud because I do not like how low sub EQ sets it, for me the sub trim was -6 and coupled with 75db it's way to low for my taste. Not just the Hsu I mean my old sub as well, so for me the gain at around the 10-11 o:clock position suits me. Am I the only one?
Check out the Audyssey thread most don't like how low it sets it .
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Check out the Audyssey thread most don't like how low it sets it .



Hi, I will thanks and for as "unclean" as the bass was on my def tech sub it did have a lot of gain. Part of this is me getting used to it and I'm sure the Hsu will shine tonight with some good LFE!
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Ive always set my sub gain where Audyssey sets the trim at -2.0 to -5.0. I then boost it in the AVR once Im done, by +4.0 to +5.0 db. In other words, once Audyssey is done, I set my sub 4 or 5 db hot.

Sometimes it takes a few test runs to get the gain where you need it on the sub.
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Ive always set my sub gain where Audyssey sets the trim at -2.0 to -5.0. I then boost it in the AVR once Im done, by +4.0 to +5.0 db. In other words, once Audyssey is done, I set my sub 4 or 5 db hot.

Sometimes it takes a few test runs to get the gain where you need it on the sub.



Hi, that's about what I did, and I'm getting used to it's sound so that helps.

I'm dying to watch IM3 but I don't want to push the new sub too much. Is it too much too early? It's been a long time since I broke a sub in wink.gif
Edited by comfynumb - 9/27/13 at 5:52pm
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I blasted mine probably like 15 db hot with some bass head on my opening night. Dr. Hsu makes tough stuff!
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IM3 had some pretty good LFE, but I did turn it down a little. All I can say is wow this sub rocks! It goes much lower than I'm used too and has plenty of output. Packing was very good and although the outside box took a little bit of a beating over the 2700 mile trip the inside box was perfect. Unpacking was easy for such a big sub. The build quality is really impressive, nice rounded corners with a great black finish that blends well with my black ash fronts and center. A nice heavy duty grill that won't fall apart if you decide to take it on and off to show friends. I doubt at this price point or even somewhat higher that I could have done any better. Overall VERY happy with this purchase and I will be adding a second one within the next 6 months.
Edited by comfynumb - 9/28/13 at 5:43am
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One thing I noticed when I went from the VTF2 to the VTF15, the sub seemed to be less noticed. Like it is ore subdued a portion of the time, but when it was supposed to go to work it did. Could have been because the cheaper 12's I had were just booooomy, while the VTF is not if setup properly. I like the front firing (not down) woofer and front ports.
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One thing I noticed when I went from the VTF2 to the VTF15, the sub seemed to be less noticed. Like it is ore subdued a portion of the time, but when it was supposed to go to work it did. Could have been because the cheaper 12's I had were just booooomy, while the VTF is not if setup properly. I like the front firing (not down) woofer and front ports.



Exactly what I thought, but mine sounds better already with a few hours on it and getting used to the new sound. My SC1 had a lot of output but was also boomy and the bass was just loose so there is an adjustment period.
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Originally Posted by gadgtfreek View Post

One thing I noticed when I went from the VTF2 to the VTF15, the sub seemed to be less noticed. Like it is ore subdued a portion of the time, but when it was supposed to go to work it did. Could have been because the cheaper 12's I had were just booooomy, while the VTF is not if setup properly. I like the front firing (not down) woofer and front ports.


This is what I call a good subwoofer. You don't know that it's there until you're supposed to. Another good trait of a subwoofer is that no one would really know you had one unless you turned it off. That means it's not overplaying it's role.
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This is what I call a good subwoofer. You don't know that it's there until you're supposed to. Another good trait of a subwoofer is that no one would really know you had one unless you turned it off. That means it's not overplaying it's role.

But when it's demo time we go into the AVR menu and go 6-9 db hot right?
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But when it's demo time we go into the AVR menu and go 6-9 db hot right?

Actually, I don't do that myself. With the two 15H's in my smaller room, Audyssey set them at -.5 and I put them up to .5 and they pretty much stay there. They produce more than enough bass. I figure it's because of the extra kick I got from having the second sub that I don't ever need to go that hot in the avr.
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Actually, I don't do that myself. With the two 15H's in my smaller room, Audyssey set them at -.5 and I put them up to .5 and they pretty much stay there. They produce more than enough bass. I figure it's because of the extra kick I got from having the second sub that I don't ever need to go that hot in the avr.
When i got my Onkyo 818 everytime i ran Audssey it set my SPL for the sub at 68db according to my Radio Shack SPL meter, so as time went on i ordered another mic from Onkyo and BOOM that fixed my problem, not it allways close to 75db.
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Must already be gone. I don't see it anymore. Darn!
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Guys... I am saving up to my next subwoofer upgrade. My list of candidate so far:

1) SVS PB-13 Ultra

2) Or, dual VTF-15H's

3) Or, Rythmic FV15HP

Any of you current Hsu owners had experience with the other 2 models I listed?
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Guys... I am saving up to my next subwoofer upgrade. My list of candidate so far:

1) SVS PB-13 Ultra

2) Or, dual VTF-15H's

3) Or, Rythmic FV15HP

Any of you current Hsu owners had experience with the other 2 models I listed?



Hi, those 3 were on my short list. I did my homework for months on all of them, in the end I bought the Hsu. I only have it 3 days and all I can say is wow! not just for the money either, this sub is special. The controllability you have over it's "sound" is amazing at this price point. I have not heard the other 2 but now I don't need too, and it's not even broken in yet. I put IM3 on the other night and had to turn it down, mainly because I got nervous as it only had around 10 hours on it. From the packaging and build quality to the sound you will not be disappointed. Can you tell I like it? biggrin.gif

Take a look in my pics, excuse the darkness of it, but look at the size this thing with my old Def Tech sub in the back.
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No, but when I did my research on buying two, most answers where buy two VTF15's over one of anything.
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Although I haven't heard the others, I have a hard time believing it would take 2 Hsu's to equal only one sub on that list.
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Yes 2 15h's would be better IMO. The theory to most, and I believe in too, is to buy the best and add more later. But I think most would agree the 15h is great at its price point and those other two are not worlds ahead of the 15h. Obviously the svs with the 1000watt amp is the best but for 2k? If you were going 2k just look for a good used Submersive and get 2400 watts and dual opposed 15's. That may be your best choice honestly. But if 2k is absolute tops go two 15h's. Best at that price point
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Although I haven't heard the others, I have a hard time believing it would take 2 Hsu's to equal only one sub on that list.

Think of it from a "price" point of view... a PB-13 Ultra goes for $1995.99, a Rythmic FV15HP goes for $1300 (1500 for the piano finish). You can get 2 VTF15's for the price of 1 PB13 Ultra.
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As I've stated before, I'd put my two earth shakers against a PB-13 Ultra any day. If 2 grand is your hard stopping point, then they are the way to go. If you want to spend 3 or 4 grand eventually, go with one of the other two and get another later. Head to head, the other two are probably going to best the 15H but when you bring in bang for your buck and possibly getting 2 15H's for the price of one of the others, the answer is simple.
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Think of it from a "price" point of view... a PB-13 Ultra goes for $1995.99, a Rythmic FV15HP goes for $1300 (1500 for the piano finish). You can get 2 VTF15's for the price of 1 PB13 Ultra.

And if your willing to go pb 13 ultra then why not just go Seaton Submersive or JTR capitate sealed or ported? All have a 2400 watt amp. One is a dual opposed 15 and the other two are a single 18 one sealed and one ported.
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And if your willing to go pb 13 ultra then why not just go Seaton Submersive or JTR capitate sealed or ported? All have a 2400 watt amp. One is a dual opposed 15 and the other two are a single 18 one sealed and one ported.

You all have to pardon JL nowadays, he's one of the Big Boys now......lol. I saw the new hardware you got. smile.gif
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Originally Posted by Luis5150 View Post

Guys... I am saving up to my next subwoofer upgrade. My list of candidate so far:

1) SVS PB-13 Ultra

2) Or, dual VTF-15H's

3) Or, Rythmic FV15HP

Any of you current Hsu owners had experience with the other 2 models I listed?

Each system has its respective advantages. The SVS is indestructible thanks to its fool proof DSP. Also, thanks to its DSP limiter and heavy duty driver, it maintains the least amount of distortion of any of them. It also has the best warranty. The FV15 is actually a more powerful subwoofer than the PB13, despite costing substantially less. It also digs the deepest. Two VTF15hs will be about as loud as either, and do more to fight any poor room acoustics. Two subs will give you more even bass sound through out the room. Also, if you place them right, you can raise the crossover higher than the normal recommended 80 Hz without a localization penalty. This can give you more powerful upper bass than a single sub without having the sub drawing attention to itself.
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You all have to pardon JL nowadays, he's one of the Big Boys now......lol. I saw the new hardware you got. smile.gif

You made laugh out loud on that one Prime. If it makes y'all feel better I don't think the quality of bass is any different from the Submersive to the 15h. It just goes louder and extends deeper. I actually tested out the super Lycan scene and WOW! All the hollow doors in my kitchen were flapping. But you see my 2k price point right? If you were willing to go that much for one sub, then why not go a little more and receive much more.

But yea the 15H gives some real nice tight beautiful bass.
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Originally Posted by Luis5150 View Post

Guys... I am saving up to my next subwoofer upgrade. My list of candidate so far:

1) SVS PB-13 Ultra

2) Or, dual VTF-15H's

3) Or, Rythmic FV15HP

Any of you current Hsu owners had experience with the other 2 models I listed?

No one has asked what the the size of the listening area is with contiguous area and how loud you normally listen?

Is your budget $2K?

What are your other speakers?

What are your goals (e.g., low, loud, or both)?
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The Rythmik top of the line 15" was actually my first choice, but I punted at the last minute and went VTF15h. I think one for one, the Rythmik is "better", but my end game was two subs and the VTF made more sense.
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