The Official HSU VTF-15H Thread - Page 4

Only on AVS is a 19"x18"x20" subwoofer with a 15" driver that weighs 93 lbs. considered a "smaller" sub.

Bless your heart.

I have to admit, even before i joined AVS i would of thought of a 20" cube as being a small/medium small sub for HT.

I've never been able to wrap my head around people wanting these ultra dinky subwoofers, especially when they'll be perfectly fine buying tower speakers that border on 5 foot tall and wieght 70+lbs each.

Exactly!

I helped a friend from work set up his first surround HT system last month, and that's exactly what happened with him too.

They just think the speakers look cool and fit in well, but a "large" subwoofer not so much.

Hey.... at least I didn't call it "ultra dinky"!

Gotcha. I was assuming you were comparing the 2 subs output as well, but they have totally different frequency response and so won't match up at a given hz measurement. I see your point now.

The more I think about it, the more I think the timing of having a big nasty ported 15 that looks decent trumps any cannibal concerns. You could always market the uls for "music lovers"

Heh I feel like the lawyer in Jurassic Park, "Yea, we could have a coupon day" like its any of my business.


Or two or three of them.

I've always thought it would be funny to put something really massive, like a pair of eD's A7-900's together, and then "decorate" (read: disguise) it as if it were instead a large chester drawer, etc. That way when someone is watching a movie with your super sexy thin "regular" speakers, and "no" subwoofer, and then they have heart palpitations when the bass hits, and start looking around wondering what is making nails shoot out of the drywall, you get to laugh your arse off.

As per Pete, it was designed for low bass. How is that not for movies as well? You must not have heard the ULS.

Dear Hrimnir,


I expect this pricing to be valid for at least the next six months, and possibly longer than that. "Intro" pricing is perhaps not the best choice of words on our part, but we did have a goal of "Stable" pricing, ie. on the day that one purchases the subwoofer, it should never go down in price in the future.

Hope this helps

Sincerely,

I really appreciate this mojomike, thank you very much! We made this product with you guys in mind at each step.

Sincerely,

I'll have to ask around about that one...

Hi moehop,


Is there anything in particular that you find deficient or lacking with your current system?

Thanks

Thank you Mel, I hope that this exceeds your expectations!

Dear Bill,


Unfortunately there is no good way to compare these different data sets. The CEA2010 standard caps maximum clean output based on stepped harmonic distortion limits, weighted on the audibility of harmonics (ie. lower order harmonics are less objectionable than higher order harmonics, harmonic distortion at lower frequency test tones are less objectionable than harmonic distortion at higher frequency test tones, etc.). Considering the audibility of distortion, and considering that most bass program material is in the form of very short-term bursts, this is a pretty sensible standard for subwoofers. No standard is perfect, but this is a step in the right direction in my opinion.

Sincerely,

You just made my day, and i was having a bad one too, so thank you.

On a side note, do you happen to have any pics of the satin black with the grill on?

I hear you Tack, thank you for the kind words!

Sincerely,

I can't thank you enough for all your support Bill, we really did obsess over this design for a long time!

Sincerely,

Very interesting that you mention this pbc! I asked our web developer a few days ago to remove the room size guideline from the VTF-15H webpage. To me, since this subwoofer has flexible enough operating modes and adjustable Q, it should actually sound really good in all room sizes.

Sincerely,

So true

I owe all the thanks to you guys

I'll have to check our network for pics of Satin Black with the grille on. Just a friendly warning that our pics may not do the product full justice, as it looks really good in person.

P.S. My apologies for the rapid fire responses. I left the office today at about 9:30pm

I have an old version of PSP and I cloned this, it looks like a$$ but you get the gist of it.

See what happens when you make a product that ppl want. Congrats on the new sub. Looks like the two year R&D is paying off. Maybe in a week or two after things calm down, I'll call, and we can talk more in depth about the new sub.

hey Pete, how does the new sub in sealed mode compare to the ULS-15 performance wise and SQ ?

Well done... Looks no different then the current marketing material.

Right and that measurement standard is CEA2010, Its not HSU that isn't using a standard

Right, one of the reasons the standard was setup was to make it easier for consumers to compare.

It isn't about one method being better than others as some might suggest, it is about measuring using standard practices.

it's probably difficult to measure and compare a front firing sub to a sub that has dual opposed drivers

probably best to get them both in the same room and measure from the LP

By that same token, then you would also need to find the best location for each sub in the room as well.

While I'm still waiting delivery on my new ULS-15, I was wondering what you guys thought about mixing and matching a ULS-15 with the VTF-15H? Maybe get a bit more punchier in the mid-range? Would that be a good idea or probably just stick with ULS-15 DD? Keep in mind this is all theoretical. Don't have any upgraditis just yet. :P