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post #211 of 343
Meh, the dancing and gyrations are my least favorite part of what he does. And when you read reviews of his failed Tonight Show, it seems like those things are what turned off the Leno people that NBC hoped Conan could keep. What turned off the Conan people like me was the watered down show. I wish Conan had the budget he used to have, but so far he's made do with what he has just fine. The lack of a Friday show sucks, though.
post #212 of 343
I think he does what his body feels like doing at the time and music has a lot to do with that. Since the music is different, he does different gestures.

Speaking of the music, I really miss his "NBC" opening music. His "TBS" music is fine, but the "NBC" music is better.
post #213 of 343
The whole band feels like an afterthought now. A lot of what used to make his show special has kinda died. Hopefully he can revive it. In place of a lot of the things he used to do appears to just be extended minutes of the monologue, which on a lot of nights seems to drag on long after it should have stopped.
post #214 of 343
From tvbythenumbers.com

Wow, Conan had an anemic 0.4 rating 18-49 the week between Christmas and New Years on TBS. He was in repeats, but Leno and Letterman usually don't drop nearly that much. Conan has been behind them for most of Dec. Wonder if this is going to hold up?
post #215 of 343
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Originally Posted by Rich Peterson View Post

From tvbythenumbers.com

Wow, Conan had an anemic 0.4 rating 18-49 the week between Christmas and New Years on TBS. He was in repeats, but Leno and Letterman usually don't drop nearly that much. Conan has been behind them for most of Dec. Wonder if this is going to hold up?

Well, it's not like they had bunches of shows to pick reruns from. Usually I won't catch all of Letterman's shows, so just because he's in repeats doesn't mean I haven't seen it. With Conan, he's only been on the air for a couple of months, and only 4 shows a week, so there wasn't much gold to pan for. Even so, I did watch a bit of one show I hadn't seen. What's amazing to me is that he took so much time off after all the time he's had off since being stabbed in the back by Leno. Must be a TBS money-saving thing.
post #216 of 343
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Originally Posted by petesimac View Post

What's amazing to me is that he took so much time off after all the time he's had off since being stabbed in the back by Leno. Must be a TBS money-saving thing.

He's still twittering. Even mentioned being on vacation on the twitter: "Every time someone compliments me on last night's show and it was a rerun, I scream "That's old hash, A-hole!" Then I throw ninja stars."
post #217 of 343
"A-hole"?

I wonder how many times Leno has ever called a fan that was sincerely attempting to compliment him that?
post #218 of 343
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Originally Posted by Rammitinski View Post

"A-hole"?

I wonder how many times Leno has ever called a fan that was sincerely attempting to compliment him that?

wow - someone can't take a sarcastic joke.
post #219 of 343
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Originally Posted by Berk32 View Post
wow - someone can't take a sarcastic joke.
I also wonder if Leno has ever run down Hollywood Blvd throwing ninja stars at fans. Probably not, because Leno doesn't have real fans.
post #220 of 343
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Originally Posted by Berk32 View Post

wow - someone can't take a sarcastic joke.

Heck of a way to "joke", abusively calling his own fan something as harsh and nasty as an "A-hole" for no good reason. Wouldn't something like "Doofus" have sufficed?
post #221 of 343
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Originally Posted by tighr View Post

Probably not, because Leno doesn't have real fans.

I don't know if they're actual "fans" or not, but he does have a lot more viewers.

Which I think I'm beginning to understand, after reading the above.
post #222 of 343
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Originally Posted by Rammitinski View Post

Heck of a way to "joke", abusively calling his own fan something as harsh and nasty as an "A-hole". Wouldn't something like "Doofus" have sufficed?

wow.... ok - clearly the guy isn't meant for you...

He regularly makes fun of his audience - if you're going to be offended by that for some reason - Leno is perfect for you.
post #223 of 343
No, thanks - Leno's not my bag, either.

Got anything "edgier", without being "sadistic"?
post #224 of 343
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Originally Posted by Rammitinski View Post

Heck of a way to "joke", abusively calling his own fan something as harsh and nasty as an "A-hole" for no good reason. Wouldn't something like "Doofus" have sufficed?

Right... at this point, I'm gonna say you are either trolling (in which case you've successfully baited me), or you truly believe the words you say.

If you can't see that the previous quote by Conan is merely a humorous statement about an event that likely never actually happened, then you probably also believe that Websters took the word "gullible" out of the dictionary.
post #225 of 343
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Originally Posted by Rammitinski View Post

No, thanks - Leno's not my bag, either.

Got anything "edgier", without being "sadistic"?

Sounds like you might really enjoy Fox news.
post #226 of 343
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Originally Posted by Shedrock View Post

Sounds like you might really enjoy Fox news.

O'Reilly's show is entertaining enough, but mostly because of the babes.
post #227 of 343
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Originally Posted by tighr View Post

If you can't see that the previous quote by Conan is merely a humorous statement about an event that likely never actually happened, then you probably also believe that Websters took the word "gullible" out of the dictionary.

I have no problem at all with the point of the actual joke itself - it's just the gratuitous, totally unnecessary, insulting slur directed at this supposed fan (whether real or made-up - does that really matter here?) at the end.

I can even understand pointless swearing and juvenile gags as being funny to someone over pre-teen age, even if they might or might not be to me - I enjoy "low-brow" comedy as much as anyone - but what is the point of adding something as offensive as that? Especially when the joke works perfectly fine without it?

I'm not "trolling" - just once I would like for somebody to explain to me why they would find something like that "funny" (at least someone not under college-aged).

If anybody's "gullible", it's some of these fanboys of these guys that do this sort of thing. I, on the other hand, will call a performer out when they say something stupid, thoughtless, or go over the line on occasion (and I've never, in all my days, seen one that didn't, no matter how much I basically enjoyed them otherwise).
post #228 of 343
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Originally Posted by Rammitinski View Post

I have no problem at all with the point of the actual joke itself - it's just the gratuitous, totally unnecessary, insulting slur directed at this supposed fan at the end.

I can even understand pointless swearing and juvenile gags as being funny to someone over pre-teen age, even if they might or might not be to me - but what is the point of adding something like that? Especially when the joke works fine without it?

I'm not "trolling" - just once I would like for somebody to explain to me why they would find something like that "funny" (at least someone not under college-aged).

And believe me - I'm not "gullible". Unlike some fanboys of performers I basically, really like, I'll still call the performer out when I think they've gone over the line. I don't blindly just laugh at everything they say or do.

i'm not sure why it still amazes me how people take this stuff so personally and seriously
post #229 of 343
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Originally Posted by Rammitinski View Post

just once I would like for somebody to explain to me why they would find something like that "funny" (at least someone not under college-aged).

I think the joke was just him pretending to be someone who gets excessively angry over the smallest things. Whether or not the joke resonates with many is another matter.

Anyway, it is best not to spend much time in analyzing jokes made via Twatter.
post #230 of 343
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Originally Posted by MSmith83 View Post

I think the joke was just him pretending to be someone who gets excessively angry over the smallest things.

Thank you. If that's true, then it makes a lot more sense.

The OP or no one thereafter bothered to explain it in that context.
post #231 of 343
I can't wait for Conan to get back to business this Monday. I've read people complain about the two week break and I read that as a good thing.
post #232 of 343
You guys need to stop letting Ramm troll you. I just find it funny how often he feels the need to TRY to find out what everyone else enjoys so much about Conan. It's clearly not a mature enough show for him...yet he watches. Hmmmm.
post #233 of 343
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Originally Posted by skyehill View Post

It's clearly not a mature enough show for him...yet he watches. Hmmmm.

I find it ironic that a person with the username "Rammitinski" has such a hard time understanding the humor in vulgar word play.
post #234 of 343
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Originally Posted by Rammitinski View Post
No, thanks - Leno's not my bag, either.

Got anything "edgier", without being "sadistic"?
I thought the appearence last week of comic/performance artist Reggie Watts (who was Conan's opening act during last summer's live shows) was certainly edgy - in a "funny for stoners" way, but hardly sadistic.

BTW - Watt's 2010 album, Why S#*t So Crazy, is AWESOME.
post #235 of 343
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Originally Posted by Rammitinski View Post

Thank you. If that's true, then it makes a lot more sense.

The OP or no one thereafter bothered to explain it in that context.

Seeing the orignal post - and also taking into account it was a joke Conan "Tweeted".....I had no doubt that neither the complimentary fan nor actual ninja stars were "real" in any way. Only time Conan would actually do that for real would surely be in front of a camera during a gag.
post #236 of 343
'Tonight Show' Ratings Final Score: Conan O'Brien 22, Jay Leno 4

By Bill Gorman - January 27, 2011

After 34 weeks of calendar overlap Conan O'Brien's (2009-10) Tonight Show adults 18-49 ratings were ahead of Jay Leno's (2010-11) Tonight Show ratings on 22 of 34 weeks, Jay Leno's were ahead on 4 weeks. On 8 weeks their ratings were tied.

NBC did not improve upon Conan O'Brien's Tonight Show ratings by putting Jay back into the Tonight Show, I'll leave it up to the commenters to debate the other questions involved:

* Would Conan have done as well as Jay during the same 2010-11 period?
* Where would Jay's ratings be had he not been removed from the Tonight Show for Conan in the first place?
* Did the Conan/Jay imbroglio permanently damage the Tonight Show franchise?

Those looking to continue following the ups and downs of late night show ratings, our All New! Late Night Ratings scorecard will be posted ASAP today.

The chart shows the Tonight Show adults 18-49 weekly average ratings for 2009, 2010 and 2011.



http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...y-leno-4/80436
post #237 of 343
I'd argue that the entire NBC fiasco hurt Leno. In the past I'd watch Leno while waiting for Conan to come on, especially if there was a good guest. Now I wouldn't watch a second of Leno regardless of the guest. I'm guessing I'm not alone.
post #238 of 343
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Originally Posted by skyehill View Post

I'd argue that the entire NBC fiasco hurt Leno. In the past I'd watch Leno while waiting for Conan to come on, especially if there was a good guest. Now I wouldn't watch a second of Leno regardless of the guest. I'm guessing I'm not alone.

You're not. We're rowing the same boat.

I won't even let the DVR come close to NBC around the time Leno is on. I don't want them to accidentally count me as a viewer.

I've seen every single Conan ep that has aired on TBS. Very Funny.

Also, I don't think Conan's ratings would have improved much over at NBC. Clearly, he was being held back by the network. His show on TBS is 10 times more fun and hilarious than anything on his Tonight Show. You gotta let a guy be creative.
post #239 of 343
How can they compare an Over-the-air free TV show with a Cable show? makes no sense, if 95% of America had cable perhaps
post #240 of 343
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Originally Posted by skyehill View Post

I'd argue that the entire NBC fiasco hurt Leno. In the past I'd watch Leno while waiting for Conan to come on, especially if there was a good guest. Now I wouldn't watch a second of Leno regardless of the guest. I'm guessing I'm not alone.

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You're not. We're rowing the same boat.

He's right - can't watch a second of Leno, I find myself diving for the remote to change the channel.
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