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post #7561 of 7863

I have two CableCard setups running here, each in it's own HDHomeRun Prime (three tuners per Prime).  I also have Cisco SDV tuning adapters for each CableCard... you will as well (the Roamio appears to be compatible with SDV tuning adapters). 

 

Whether the CCs and TAs are in stock will depend on your local office's current stock situation.  When I picked up my first CC/TA pair, the Matthews office had the TA but no CCs... I had to trek over to the Arrowood location to get the CC.  When I picked up the second CC/TA pair, the Matthews office had both in stock.  I should add that my son had a more mixed experience up in Raleigh.  He also has two Primes... the first CC he picked up was defective and he had to wait two weeks for TWC to have another available.  His second time was more like my experiences.

 

The activation process was time consuming but painless both times (calling TWC's national CableCard activation center).  The most recent activation I did was handled by a rep named Dakota... he was extremely knowledgeable about the process as well as my HDHR tuner.  He had me check HDHR diagnostic screens several times along the way and and stayed with me until it was verified that all subscribed services were working.  Process took about 30 minutes after a 2-3 minute initial hold time.

 

A single multistream CC and TA will handle all four tuners in your TiVO.


Edited by jcalabria - 9/1/13 at 5:24pm
post #7562 of 7863
Thanks for the help. I would not have known to ask for a tuning adapter. Does the tuning adapter attach to the M_Card some how? What does the tuning adapter do?
post #7563 of 7863
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Originally Posted by rcase13 View Post

Thanks for the help. I would not have known to ask for a tuning adapter. Does the tuning adapter attach to the M_Card some how? What does the tuning adapter do?

It allows access to SDV channels with the Tivo/Cablecard combination, other wise you will not be able to get any channels that are SDV.
And be forewarned, it's a big honkin' box.. Google Cisco STA1520. I have 3 of them laying in the floor of my office.

Keep us posted on the Roamio..I really want one, but the need for the STA make for a messy installation. mad.gif
post #7564 of 7863
Yikes! LOL How much is that going to set me back? I understand the M-Card is $2.50/month. The whole point of this was to reduce costs...
post #7565 of 7863

The tuning adapter is included in the $2.50 CC rental.  It connects to the tuning device (the Roamio in your case) via a USB cable and a run of coax... so there is some flexibility in locating it (somewhat) away from the TiVO.

post #7566 of 7863
Ok I think I understand how it works. Good to know it's included. I have room in my cabinet so not such a big deal.

I have to say so far I love this Tivo and I don't even have the M-Card yet. My wife and I are simply astounded at how polished the interface is. It is an extremely fast interface with no lag. This thing without a M-Card beats anything TW has given me.

Thanks for the help I will post a follow up once I get this thing working with cable. For now we will watch Netflix and stream music using the Tivo's awesome interface. It's the best Netflix experience we have had so far.
post #7567 of 7863
my original tivo that I won Free! in 1999 is still going strong...
post #7568 of 7863
My Series 2s are vintage 2000. Still going with no need for HD where they're doing their job.
post #7569 of 7863
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Originally Posted by rcase13 View Post

I decided to give the Tivo Roamio a try. I understand it needs a cable card. I will run over to the Kannapolis store on Tuesday to pick one up. I have a couple questions though. Do they keep plenty of the cable cards in stock? How many streams or channels does the cable card support at one time? I bought the 4 tuner Tivo Roamio. Will I be able to use all four tuners with the Time Warner cable card?

Is anyone else using the Tivo unit? I would be interested to hear your experiences with Time Warner and Tivo.

Thanks,
Rodney

You can try getting a CableCARD and Tuning Adapter from the office but you're probably better off ordering one online from Time Warner. It'll come with a Tuning Adapter and it makes the process go much more smoothly.

The Gastonia Office didn't have any available when I needed them for my second Ceton InfiniTV. It took the technician 4 CableCARDs to get my first InfiniTV working. Back then a truck roll was required and the tuning adapter only supported 2 streams.

Today, the Tuning Adapter and CableCARD support 6 streams at once so you will be able to use all 4 tuners.
post #7570 of 7863
I was able to pickup and authorize the M-Card and tuner adapter this morning. Both the person I picked it up from and the person that authorized it over the phone were very helpful and knowledgeable. I was surprised that it went so smoothly.

The picture quality is very good OTA good even. I think better than the Time Warner box. I was able to initiate 4 recordings using all upper 15xx channels. No problems at all. The Tivo interface is jaw dropping fast. No hesitation or delays at all. I wish I had done this a long time ago.

Tuning upper channels seems to take about 3 to 4 seconds. So far I have not had any issues other than that slight delay. We will see if that slight delay causes any problem going forward.

I do have some complaints about the Tivo. The remote is not back-lit and can't control audio receivers. I will have to go out and purchase a suitable remote that is back-lit to replace it. Also surprisingly I think the way it groups recorded shows is pretty poor. I was surprised it doesn't have a folder option. It basically just dumps all the recordings into one spot like TWC does. I hope it's just something I need to put more research into. I understand Dish has a folder option.

I have used Dish, Direct-TV, U-Verse and TWC DVRs, and honestly the best of those I think was Dish but Tivo has them all beat. I will give it more time before calling it a success but so far Tivo + M-Card + TWC is the best TV experience I have had so far.

The next step is to get a Tivo Mini and see how that works.
post #7571 of 7863
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Originally Posted by rcase13 View Post

I will have to go out and purchase a suitable remote that is back-lit to replace it.

Take a look at iRuleHD: http://www.iruleathome.com/
post #7572 of 7863
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Originally Posted by rcase13 View Post

I was able to pickup and authorize the M-Card and tuner adapter this morning. Both the person I picked it up from and the person that authorized it over the phone were very helpful and knowledgeable. I was surprised that it went so smoothly.

The picture quality is very good OTA good even. I think better than the Time Warner box. I was able to initiate 4 recordings using all upper 15xx channels. No problems at all. The Tivo interface is jaw dropping fast. No hesitation or delays at all. I wish I had done this a long time ago.

Tuning upper channels seems to take about 3 to 4 seconds. So far I have not had any issues other than that slight delay. We will see if that slight delay causes any problem going forward.

I do have some complaints about the Tivo. The remote is not back-lit and can't control audio receivers. I will have to go out and purchase a suitable remote that is back-lit to replace it. Also surprisingly I think the way it groups recorded shows is pretty poor. I was surprised it doesn't have a folder option. It basically just dumps all the recordings into one spot like TWC does. I hope it's just something I need to put more research into. I understand Dish has a folder option.

I have used Dish, Direct-TV, U-Verse and TWC DVRs, and honestly the best of those I think was Dish but Tivo has them all beat. I will give it more time before calling it a success but so far Tivo + M-Card + TWC is the best TV experience I have had so far.

The next step is to get a Tivo Mini and see how that works.

The Tivo Series 2 software had an option to group recordings by title for series and/or order by record date. They've removed that in the more recent versions?
post #7573 of 7863
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Originally Posted by stannc View Post

The Tivo Series 2 software had an option to group recordings by title for series and/or order by record date. They've removed that in the more recent versions?

Those two options are still there. I was just surprised the holy grail of DVRs doesn't have a folder option. It's nice to sort by family member. I am pretty sure Dish had this option.
post #7574 of 7863
Current Programming Legal Notice... looks like some more clear QAM shuffling coming up early next month.

 

Quote:

Charlotte and surrounding areas

September 4, 2013

 

 

Time Warner Cable’s agreements with programmers and broadcasters to carry their services and stations routinely expire from time to time. We are usually able to obtain renewals or extensions of such agreements, but in order to comply with applicable regulations, we must inform you when an agreement is about to expire. The following agreements are due to expire soon and we may be required to cease carriage of one or more of these services/stations in the near future:

Azteca America, Bandamax, CBS Sports Network, CBS Sports Network HD, De Pelicula, De Pelicula Classico, E!, E! HD, Flix (East & West), G4, G4 HD, Gol TV, Gol TV HD, Lifetime, Lifetime HD, Lifetime Movie Network, Lifetime Movie Network HD, Lifetime Real Women, MC On Demand, Music Choice (channels 900-944), NHL Center Ice, NHL Center Ice HD, NHL Network, NHL Network HD, NuvoTV, Sprout, Style, Style HD, Youtoo.

 

In addition, from time to time we make certain changes in the services that we offer in order to better serve our customers. The following changes are planned:

 

Time Warner Cable may cease carriage of CBS Sports Network (SD and HD). Time Warner Cable may also cease carriage of NuvoTV.

 

On or about September 10th, ShopNBC will move from channel 70 to channel 7 in Cheraw, SC.

 

On or about September 10th, IFC will move from channel 631 to channel 309 and IFC HD will move from channel 1631 to channel 1309.

 

On or about September 13th, QVC Plus will be added to the Digital Tier on channel 373.

 

On or about September 30th, ESPN 3D (channel 1505) is ceasing operations and will no longer be available.

 

From October 7-20, a free preview of TV Japan will be available for digital subscribers on channel 868 and HD 1868.

 

On or after October 8th, Time Warner Cable will be making technical changes to our cable system that may disrupt your ability to view the following unencrypted (“in the clear”) channel on a digital television or other device that includes a QAM tuner (“a ClearQAM device”): News 14 Carolina, WUNC, WUNC HD, WUNC Kids, WUNC MX, WUNC Explorer, WAXN, WAXN HD, WBTV, WBTV HD, WBTV D2, WCNC, WCNC HD, WCNC D2, WHKY, WMYT, WMYT HD, WMYT D2, WNSC, WUNG. If this occurs, you will need to go into the settings menu on your ClearQAM device and perform a new channel scan in order to resume viewing this channel. Customers using digital cable set-top boxes will not notice any change. We apologize for any inconvenience.

 

The new services listed below cannot be accessed on CableCARD-equipped Unidirectional Digital Cable Products purchased at retail without additional, two-way capable equipment: QVC Plus.

post #7575 of 7863
Interesting. I'll have to check and see if the upcoming ClearQAM shuffling will affect my ability to get those channels I was missing before (mainly WSOC and WTVI). They're not in that list (somewhat surprising), but maybe they'll get shifted anyway.

I actually canceled the broadcast cable portion of my package a month ago, but they never put the trap in I guess because I was able to still get the signal for several weeks after both the scheduled uninstall date and the date that I called them to tell them they hadn't disconnected it.

Can someone say something if they see the shuffle happen (especially in the Huntersville area)? Might be worth switching the cable hookup back to see if the missing channels are back for me (just as a test, not long-term). I'm pretty happy with my OTA reception on my lousy antenna in the garage, but if the recordings aren't perfect, my wife might not be. smile.gif
post #7576 of 7863
Hey guys, I'd like some advice on tuners. I'm currently looking to get either the Ceton 6 tuner device, or the HDHR Prime. I currently have a HDHR ATSC device, and love it. I know the main difference between the two CableCard devices is the number of tuners. (and price) I'd like to go with 6 tuners (Ceton) but I've never used their products before?

So, those of you who have the InfiniTV6, are you happy? Solid? I'll be using this in a WMC7 setup, with extenders.

Thanks!

-Chris
post #7577 of 7863
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Originally Posted by digitrip View Post

Hey guys, I'd like some advice on tuners. I'm currently looking to get either the Ceton 6 tuner device, or the HDHR Prime. I currently have a HDHR ATSC device, and love it. I know the main difference between the two CableCard devices is the number of tuners. (and price) I'd like to go with 6 tuners (Ceton) but I've never used their products before?

So, those of you who have the InfiniTV6, are you happy? Solid? I'll be using this in a WMC7 setup, with extenders.

Thanks!

-Chris

I have the Ceton InfiniTV 4 but I'm pretty sure the 6 uses the same firmware. It's pretty stable now but I still consider it beta. For a while it was constantly crashing and rebooting but after months of public forum bashing, we got a pretty stable firmware finally from ceton.

If Silicon Dust would come out with a 6 tuner (not the 3x3 they currently have) Prime device that uses one CableCARD, I'd go with them in a second. The two HDHR ATSC Tuners I have are rock solid!

At this point, I'm done with Ceton. I saw they were working on an Android based OS for the echo and for a second got my hopes up. They then recently announced that Android on the echo was dead.

Don't let my disgust with Ceton put you off from going with an InfiniTV 6. Several of us already went through a lot of pain and suffering with the InfiniTV 4 for more than a year so others wouldn't have to go through the same going forward.

What you have to decide is how many encrypted channels do you really need to record / watch at one time? I rarely have four encrypted channels recording at once but constantly have four OTA channels recording at once so the two ATSC tuners along with the 4 tuner InfiniTV work great for me.

If you decide to go with the 6, let us know your experience.
post #7578 of 7863
South Charlotte (Southpark area). Worried about watching the Panthers game. Can anyone get Fox (now apparently WJZY) in clear QAM? I can get most other of the major networks in HD through TWC clear QAM but I can't seem to find Fox?

Granted I am only paying for TWC "broadcast" level of TV service so perhaps they moved that outside of the range my TV can find but there website says I should get it under my broadcast level plan. Wondering if I need to use the digital adapter to get that specific channel.

Thanks.
Edited by FrankTheTank2 - 9/6/13 at 5:19am
post #7579 of 7863

Working here (SE Charlotte/Matthews off Hwy 51)... shows up as channel 250.3

post #7580 of 7863
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Originally Posted by jcalabria View Post

Working here (SE Charlotte/Matthews off Hwy 51)... shows up as channel 250.3

Thanks. I don't think I looked that high. I will try a rescan tonight.
post #7581 of 7863

Other channels "up there" in the same vicinity are:

 

  • 230.5 WTVI_HD (WTVIDT)

  • 232.2 WTVI_PS (WTVIDT2)

  • 233.3 WTVI_CV (WTVIDT3)

  • 235.6 WSOCHD (WSOCDT)

  • 236.7 WSOC_WX (WSOCDT2)

 

 

I don't have my hopes set too high, but I sincerely wish that they would do something about their horrible mess of virtual channel assignments in this upcoming QAM rearrangements.

post #7582 of 7863
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Originally Posted by jcalabria View Post

Other channels "up there" in the same vicinity are:

  • 230.5 WTVI_HD (WTVIDT)
  • 232.2 WTVI_PS (WTVIDT2)
  • 233.3 WTVI_CV (WTVIDT3)
  • 235.6 WSOCHD (WSOCDT)
  • 236.7 WSOC_WX (WSOCDT2)


I don't have my hopes set too high, but I sincerely wish that they would do something about their horrible mess of virtual channel assignments in this upcoming QAM rearrangements.

I guess the good news is that we can still receive them without paying for a box each month. I have one of their free digital adapter boxes and its pretty awful.
post #7583 of 7863
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Originally Posted by FrankTheTank2 View Post

I have one of their free digital adapter boxes and its pretty awful.

In what respect? I have 3 and they are one of the nicer "free" boxes provided by CATv's... It has HDMI out, and delivers HD channels as it should..I guess you want a Cisco 4742HDC for free?
post #7584 of 7863
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Originally Posted by bdfox18doe View Post

In what respect? I have 3 and they are one of the nicer "free" boxes provided by CATv's... It has HDMI out, and delivers HD channels as it should..I guess you want a Cisco 4742HDC for free?

+1
post #7585 of 7863
Just did a re-scan and the highest channel I see in my the list is 135. I don't have any channels up in the 200+ range.

Would this be dependent on each TV?
post #7586 of 7863
Quote:
Originally Posted by FrankTheTank2 View Post

Just did a re-scan and the highest channel I see in my the list is 135. I don't have any channels up in the 200+ range.

Would this be dependent on each TV?

Yes.  Sounds like your TV doesn't support virtual channels higher than its highest supported physical RF channel, which typically is channel 135 in most devices.  It's one of the reasons why I hope that TWC revamps their virtual channel assignments.

post #7587 of 7863

Per the latest (9/18) legal notice, the QAM reshuffle is pushed back to 10/22.

 

Also, I hadn't given it much thought until it was moved (currently duplicated), but I'm scratching my head a little as to why the nearly all-movie IFC channel was moved from the Movie block to the General Interest block... especially when channels like UHD and AMC carry much more "general interest" programming and remain in the Movie block.

 

 

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcalabria View Post
 

Current Programming Legal Notice... looks like some more clear QAM shuffling coming up early next month.

 

Quote:

Charlotte and surrounding areas

September 4, 2013

 

 

Time Warner Cable’s agreements with programmers and broadcasters to carry their services and stations routinely expire from time to time. We are usually able to obtain renewals or extensions of such agreements, but in order to comply with applicable regulations, we must inform you when an agreement is about to expire. The following agreements are due to expire soon and we may be required to cease carriage of one or more of these services/stations in the near future:

Azteca America, Bandamax, CBS Sports Network, CBS Sports Network HD, De Pelicula, De Pelicula Classico, E!, E! HD, Flix (East & West), G4, G4 HD, Gol TV, Gol TV HD, Lifetime, Lifetime HD, Lifetime Movie Network, Lifetime Movie Network HD, Lifetime Real Women, MC On Demand, Music Choice (channels 900-944), NHL Center Ice, NHL Center Ice HD, NHL Network, NHL Network HD, NuvoTV, Sprout, Style, Style HD, Youtoo.

 

In addition, from time to time we make certain changes in the services that we offer in order to better serve our customers. The following changes are planned:

 

Time Warner Cable may cease carriage of CBS Sports Network (SD and HD). Time Warner Cable may also cease carriage of NuvoTV.

 

On or about September 10th, ShopNBC will move from channel 70 to channel 7 in Cheraw, SC.

 

On or about September 10th, IFC will move from channel 631 to channel 309 and IFC HD will move from channel 1631 to channel 1309.

 

On or about September 13th, QVC Plus will be added to the Digital Tier on channel 373.

 

On or about September 30th, ESPN 3D (channel 1505) is ceasing operations and will no longer be available.

 

From October 7-20, a free preview of TV Japan will be available for digital subscribers on channel 868 and HD 1868.

 

On or after October 8th, Time Warner Cable will be making technical changes to our cable system that may disrupt your ability to view the following unencrypted (“in the clear”) channel on a digital television or other device that includes a QAM tuner (“a ClearQAM device”): News 14 Carolina, WUNC, WUNC HD, WUNC Kids, WUNC MX, WUNC Explorer, WAXN, WAXN HD, WBTV, WBTV HD, WBTV D2, WCNC, WCNC HD, WCNC D2, WHKY, WMYT, WMYT HD, WMYT D2, WNSC, WUNG. If this occurs, you will need to go into the settings menu on your ClearQAM device and perform a new channel scan in order to resume viewing this channel. Customers using digital cable set-top boxes will not notice any change. We apologize for any inconvenience.

 

The new services listed below cannot be accessed on CableCARD-equipped Unidirectional Digital Cable Products purchased at retail without additional, two-way capable equipment: QVC Plus.

 


Edited by jcalabria - 9/16/13 at 1:37pm
post #7588 of 7863
If you use Windows Media Center with a CableCARD or OTA Tuner, Check your CW and FOX recordings. Fox bought WJZY so WCCB lost Fox and is now CW.

My wife almost missed having Bones recorded which would have been the end of life as I know it. She refuses to use on demand.
post #7589 of 7863
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Originally Posted by kcr6419 View Post

If you use Windows Media Center with a CableCARD or OTA Tuner, Check your CW and FOX recordings. Fox bought WJZY so WCCB lost Fox and is now CW.

My wife almost missed having Bones recorded which would have been the end of life as I know it. She refuses to use on demand.

The TWC iOS app and Tivo Series 2 still haven't updated the network logos for those two channels. It's disconcerting.
post #7590 of 7863
This maybe a noob question, but in charlotte what all formats are piped over TWC's lines? IE, NTSC, ATSC, and the obvious cQAM and encrypted QAM. I mainly wondering if NTSC is still used, or if everything has been moved to QAM. The reason I ask is I want location free viewing, and outside the house the TWC app is useless. But I don't have a device I can use as a tuner for my vulkano, so I was going to buy an old slingbox SB100 since it has a built in NTSC tuner. Unless someone here has a better suggestion for a way to watch football on saturdays when I'm not home from my android tab or phone. I have an XBOX 360 that I use an extender, but I'm weary about hooking it up to my vulkano because the UI from my media center PC is kinda slow, so then once I sling that already slow UI over the internet it's only going to exacerbate the issue. So I would just rather a location free device that I can hook straight into the device and tune from there. Thanks for any help/advice that you can offer.

If there is another solution outside of sling I would rather that. Especially since they basically obsolete equipment like it's going to stop working in 2 months. I just realized I would have to use the prohd only because the rest have been obsoleted for android use. Again, thanks for any advice.
Edited by 1454 - 9/22/13 at 8:16am
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