AVS › AVS Forum › Blu-ray & HD DVD › Blu-ray Players › OPPO BDP-93 Pre-release Thread
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

OPPO BDP-93 Pre-release Thread - Page 45  

post #1321 of 1692
11/21/10 at 1:40am
Quote:
Originally Posted by Smarty-pants View Post

Looks to be a decent mini-review / feature listing for the BDP-93

http://bluray-players.net/oppo/oppo-bdp-93-review/

Loosely concocted to appear as a mini-review. Check out this line for example:

"You can now watch Netflix movies, Blockbuster on Demand and CinemaNow streamed to your home theater."

This looks like it was pasted together from whats read in the threads, audioholics early look, and whats on Oppo's site, as CinemaNow was renamed to Blockbuster on Demand later on.

This site has always just been a pointer to Amazon.

Gear mentioned in this thread:

post #1322 of 1692
11/21/10 at 2:10am
Quote:
Originally Posted by sac8d4 View Post

Musicdirect 2011 catalog has information on the BDP-95, priced at $979. Some of the features the add mentions are Netflix and Vudu streaming, thats right specifically mentions VUDU!The ESS dacs are back with Balanced stereo analog outputs (I would assume so on the MCH analog outputs as well). Furthermore, the add also mentiona a beefed up powersupply with a large toroidal transformer. I wonder what else is under the hood. So far I like what i have read....

Would that mean that the 95 wouldn't have unbalanced stereo outputs as well? Denon's DVD-A1UDCI only has balanced stereo outs. But since my pre-amp doesn't have balanced ins, this would mean I wouldn't be able to use the stereo out...
post #1323 of 1692
11/21/10 at 2:22am
Thread Starter 
No, just means that a huge selling point for people going directly into an amplifier is that they can finally used balanced connections. OPPO would be rather stupid to not have standard RCA dedicated stereo outputs.
post #1324 of 1692
11/21/10 at 3:22am
I am debating wether or not I should get one of these or a used DV-983. Has there been any verdict on how the picture quality compares to the 983? Is it just as good? And, are there usually any problems with modding it to region free, like loss of functions or performance, or conflicts with future firmwares?
post #1325 of 1692
11/21/10 at 4:59am
Well, I just placed my order this morning. It appears it was accepted, do you think I got the order in on time?

My first Oppo player, which will replace my launch PS3, which my son will still use in our theater. The ps3 fan noise was too much, and I'm not crazy about the original ps3's power draw.

I'm looking forward to better DVD upscaling.
post #1326 of 1692
11/21/10 at 5:33am
Is it safe to assume if I can't make my 83 work with my network hardrive, that I won't be able to make the 93 work either? I'm having a heck of a time trying to figure out how to make the 83 recognize my network shares folder on my WD my book world edition.

I have NFS enabled, and the 83's IP address in the allow list, it just flat out won't see anything inside the folder.
post #1327 of 1692
11/21/10 at 5:34am
Quote:
Originally Posted by NewPannyGuy View Post

Oh yes that is true. So does that mean the 93 can play AVCHD with menus over usb or esata? If so, that is great news.

Yes. Note there is a bug that prevents AVCHD playing from NTFS, but I'm sure this will be fixed in future firmware.

-Bill
post #1328 of 1692
11/21/10 at 5:39am
Quote:
Originally Posted by Makaveli Tha Don View Post

Is it safe to assume if I can't make my 83 work with my network hardrive, that I won't be able to make the 93 work either? I'm having a heck of a time trying to figure out how to make the 83 recognize my network shares folder on my WD my book world edition.

I have NFS enabled, and the 83's IP address in the allow list, it just flat out won't see anything inside the folder.

There is no network file access on either player. The NAS (or something else on the network connected to it) must be running a DLNA. server.

-Bill
post #1329 of 1692
11/21/10 at 5:41am
Quote:
Originally Posted by RumblePen View Post

I am debating wether or not I should get one of these or a used DV-983. Has there been any verdict on how the picture quality compares to the 983? Is it just as good? And, are there usually any problems with modding it to region free, like loss of functions or performance, or conflicts with future firmwares?

To my eye they are of equivalent quality for DVD.

There is no region free firmware for the -93. We expect a third party hardware mod to appear soon. This causes no loss of functionality.

-Bill
post #1330 of 1692
11/21/10 at 5:43am
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

Unfortunately no. The player uses CD-TEXT information for displaying CD and SACD text (so if there is no CD-TEXT, nothing will be populated).

For user created media, the player is looking for ID3 tag information. MP3 is pretty much the only guaranteed format to provide ID 3 tag information.

The player does not use services gracenote for finding media information.

OK thanks. That's what I was really asking originally. I asked Oppo once if they were considering this as an 83 enhancement.
post #1331 of 1692
11/21/10 at 7:00am
Well, just for the record, I have made CDs using Sony CD Architect and pretty much the same info that the BDP-83 displays for SACDs shows up for ther CDs I make (with CD Artist and Title Track). However, this same disc info will not show up on my PS3. Like Neuromancer states, in that case the PS3 would require its own way of titling CDs - through the Net.
post #1332 of 1692
11/21/10 at 7:00am
Quote:
Originally Posted by EJ View Post

Well, I just placed my order this morning. It appears it was accepted, do you think I got the order in on time?

My first Oppo player, which will replace my launch PS3, which my son will still use in our theater. The ps3 fan noise was too much, and I'm not crazy about the original ps3's power draw.

I'm looking forward to better DVD upscaling.

My understanding was that once you received the invitation to purchase the player you then had 5 days to follow through or let the invitation pass to those next in order. I guess you acted within the 5 day requirement so you should be good to go.
post #1333 of 1692
11/21/10 at 7:01am
EJ, Yes as long as you sent in your order within 5 days of receiving the invitation email. My email from Oppo said, "This link will be available for five days or while supplies last. Limit 1 per customer." I ordered mine to day too and got an order confirmation from Oppo so I think we are good to go. Now the waiting and nail biting begin!
post #1334 of 1692
11/21/10 at 7:12am
They must have gotten lots of orders because processing is now out to the following week. This is what you get now on the pre-order invitation link:

Availability: Pre-release. Limited Quantity. Fulfillment to begin on Tuesday, November, 30.
post #1335 of 1692
11/21/10 at 7:13am
Sellin like hot cakes! The visa servers prob crashed at 1500 that day last week.
post #1336 of 1692
11/21/10 at 8:05am
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

Updated the first post.

AVCHD (26-1108 - NTFS drives will not support AVCHD)

Quote:
Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

Yes. Note there is a bug that prevents AVCHD playing from NTFS, but I'm sure this will be fixed in future firmware.

-Bill

WHOA WHOA WHOA bill and neuromancer...i just ordered the 93 on the presale link...and the ONLY reason i bought it is to play AVCHD from NTFS drives...and now youre saying it doesnt work??? i know that oppo is good at fixing stuff, but this is something that would have to be fixed fairly quickly or i am calling oppo first thing in the morning and cancelling my order...i mean why should i order it and pay shipping if its going to take them who knows how long to fix that bug...are you saying that AVCHD doesnt work over USB drives OR esata drives formatted as ntfs???
post #1337 of 1692
11/21/10 at 8:05am
Quote:
Originally Posted by dtrell View Post

WHOA WHOA WHOA bill and neuromancer...i just ordered the 93 on the presale link...and the ONLY reason i bought it is to play AVCHD from NTFS drives...and now youre saying it doesnt work??? i know that oppo is good at fixing stuff, but this is something that would have to be fixed fairly quickly or i am calling oppo first thing in the morning and cancelling my order...i mean why should i order it and pay shipping if its going to take them who knows how long to fix that bug...are you saying that AVCHD doesnt work over USB drive OR esata drives formatted as ntfs???

My testing was with a USB stick formatted NTFS. OPPO confirmed the error. There is no reason to think it would be any different on eSATA or HD in general.

You are aware that the firmware is still beta, and that some things aren't working yet, right? If you can't live with that you should cancel and wait for the confirmed bug fixes.

-Bill
post #1338 of 1692
11/21/10 at 8:06am
Always pains with being an early adopter.
post #1339 of 1692
11/21/10 at 8:20am
Quote:
Originally Posted by ElwayLite View Post

Sellin like hot cakes! The visa servers prob crashed at 1500 that day last week.

Well, I am debating between the Oppo 93 and the Panasonic BD-85.
I currently have a Panasonic BD30 blu ray player that I am extremely happy with. But since we moved my sons PS3 to the theater, we lost our BD player we use upstairs, so I am thinking of moving the BD30 upstairs and replacing it with either the Oppo or the Panny 85.

To give you an idea of our set-up:
JVC RS2 projector
58X104 Da-Lite HCCV screen with masking
Denon 3805
Outlaw 770 amp (200x7)
Rocket speakers all the way around, 850's in the front
SVS Ultra/2 subwoofer

I just got my e-mail offering the early buy on the pre-production release of the Oppo.
My question is, I am wondering what benefit there is to rush in on the 93?
From what I can tell they are not offering any sort of 'deal' to be an early adaptor guinea pig on the 93. I see everyone jumping on the bandwagon to be an early adaptor.
What am I missing? Is there some sort of rebate that Oppo is offering to those early adaptors?
I am thinking I may hold off and wait. Besides, I am wondering if I'll see any real difference between the 85 and the Oppo.

Quote:


In order to give OPPO customers the best possible video and audio experience, we continue to work diligently on developing the new BDP-93 player.
As we ready the BDP-93 for public release, there is still some work left to be done. The firmware that will be installed on your BDP-93 is a pre-release version - further refinement, tweaking, and bug fixing are still in development. You can also expect additional features, which includes streaming services from various providers, to be added throughout the player's lifecycle. The firmware can be upgraded via the internet, USB, or CD. When you receive your BDP-93, please send any feedback and comments...
post #1340 of 1692
11/21/10 at 8:26am
You won't see any difference in BD playback between the 85 and the Oppo. If you need dual HDMI or a universal player, then you'll want the Oppo.
post #1341 of 1692
11/21/10 at 8:27am
Quote:
Originally Posted by suffolk112000 View Post

Well, I am debating between the Oppo 93 and the Panasonic BD-85.
I currently have a Panasonic BD30 blu ray player that I am extremely happy with. But since we moved my sons PS3 to the theater, we lost our BD player we use upstairs, so I am thinking of moving the BD30 upstairs and replacing it with either the Oppo or the Panny 85.

To give you an idea of our set-up:
JVC RS2 projector
58X104 Da-Lite HCCV screen with masking
Denon 3805
Outlaw 770 amp (200x7)
Rocket speakers all the way around, 850’s in the front
SVS Ultra/2 subwoofer

I just got my e-mail offering the early buy on the pre-production release of the Oppo.
My question is, I am wondering what benefit there is to rush in on the 93?
From what I can tell they are not offering any sort of 'deal' to be an early adaptor guinea pig on the 93. I see everyone jumping on the bandwagon to be an early adaptor.
What am I missing? Is there some sort of rebate that Oppo is offering to those early adaptors?
I am thinking I may hold off and wait. Besides, I am wondering if I’ll see any real difference between the 85 and the Oppo.

IMO, since I've owned an 85 since it was released, here is what Id say:

*) Better DVD playback on Oppo (BD85 is no slouch)
*) BR PQ of the 85 is hard to top
*) I like the source direct option because I already have a calibrated pre/pro
*) SACD and such, the 93 will offer more options there
*) Speed - the 85 is no slouch, but I imagine the Oppo will speed things up a bit
*) Oppo is 3D with two HDMI outs; also important to me

If you are looking for a great, reliable BR player, with some DVD thrown in, the 85 is awesome, period.

Do I feel Im gonna get twice the enjoyment for twice the price? No. I just made the decision, that Id give Oppo a shot when they put out a BR player that did web content (caught up to everyone else), so Im doing that. Being this is the creme of the crop, does 3D, and has dual HDMI's, Ill not upgrade again until it dies.

Im a long term Panny guy BTW (BD10,BD35 and BD85).
post #1342 of 1692
11/21/10 at 8:46am
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stew4msu View Post

You won't see any difference in BD playback between the 85 and the Oppo. If you need dual HDMI or a universal player, then you'll want the Oppo.

Thanks Stew...
Yes, I understand that BD playback will be the same.
I have to say, I'd love to have that extra HDMI out to use for my exercise room TV. But that TV is only a 32 inch Dynex. Nothing special. I pretty much only use that TV for exercising, so I am not going to see much of a difference while running a treadmill. Add to that, the Dynex is only 1080i and is only 32 inches.
post #1343 of 1692
11/21/10 at 8:51am
Quote:
Originally Posted by dtrell View Post

WHOA WHOA WHOA bill and neuromancer...i just ordered the 93 on the presale link...and the ONLY reason i bought it is to play AVCHD from NTFS drives...

I find it hard to fathom someone buying this player ONLY for that purpose. In any case I don't think anyone believes it won't be fixed shortly.
post #1344 of 1692
11/21/10 at 8:52am
Quote:
Originally Posted by ElwayLite View Post

IMO, since I've owned an 85 since it was released, here is what Id say:

*) Better DVD playback on Oppo (BD85 is no slouch)
*) BR PQ of the 85 is hard to top
*) I like the source direct option because I already have a calibrated pre/pro
*) SACD and such, the 93 will offer more options there
*) Speed - the 85 is no slouch, but I imagine the Oppo will speed things up a bit
*) Oppo is 3D with two HDMI outs; also important to me

If you are looking for a great, reliable BR player, with some DVD thrown in, the 85 is awesome, period.

Do I feel Im gonna get twice the enjoyment for twice the price? No. I just made the decision, that Id give Oppo a shot when they put out a BR player that did web content (caught up to everyone else), so Im doing that. Being this is the creme of the crop, does 3D, and has dual HDMI's, Ill not upgrade again until it dies.

Im a long term Panny guy BTW (BD10,BD35 and BD85).

Thanks for offering your feedback Elwaylite.
I am starting to think the only difference between the two will be modest picture quality improvements with SD-DVD’s and perhaps slightly better sound from the 93...?
The only thing really holding me back is the upconversion improvement on a 9’ screen that I know the Oppo will give me.
The question is, how much of an improvement…

FYI: I live in the country and use a Sprint air card so having internet connection on either player is pretty much useless for me.
post #1345 of 1692
11/21/10 at 8:56am
Ive not seen an Oppo in action, but my experience, and reviews, say the 85 does well. The audio will only be analog improvements, bitstreamed HD audio on blu-rays should sound the same.

Like I said, I completely understand Im not getting my money's worth on the upgrade, but I want to try Oppo, just like I did Denon (now Im hooked on Denon). Folks using ALL the features of the 93 are who really gain. That being said, it'll be piece of mind knowing I'm watching movies about as good as I can possibly see them.
post #1346 of 1692
11/21/10 at 9:05am
Quote:
Originally Posted by Smarty-pants View Post

Looks to be a decent mini-review / feature listing for the BDP-93

http://bluray-players.net/oppo/oppo-bdp-93-review/

It says "the Oppo BDP-93 is truly a universal blu-ray player that plays all known disc formats including the less popular SACD and DVD-Audio discs."

If only this were true! I still have some HD-DVDs moldering in the back of a closet somewhere.
post #1347 of 1692
11/21/10 at 9:06am
Quote:
Originally Posted by bweissman View Post

it says "the oppo bdp-93 is truly a universal blu-ray player that plays all living disc formats including the less popular sacd and dvd-audio discs."

if only this were true! I still have some hd-dvds moldering in the back of a closet somewhere.


post #1348 of 1692
11/21/10 at 9:24am
http://forums.highdefdigest.com/hd-d...pre-order.html
http://forums.highdefdigest.com/hd-d...happening.html

Technically alive akin to DVD-A at the very least.
post #1349 of 1692
11/21/10 at 9:35am
Quote:
Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

Yes. Note there is a bug that prevents AVCHD playing from NTFS, but I'm sure this will be fixed in future firmware.

-Bill

I'm slightly confused here. How could I play an AVCHD with a 20GB m2ts file in it? Obviously Fat32 will not work. I suppose I could navigate to the m2ts file like I do on my PS3, but that is kind of lame. When I do that all of the files are called 00000.
post #1350 of 1692
11/21/10 at 9:49am
Quote:
Originally Posted by michdys View Post

Would that mean that the 95 wouldn't have unbalanced stereo outputs as well? Denon's DVD-A1UDCI only has balanced stereo outs. But since my pre-amp doesn't have balanced ins, this would mean I wouldn't be able to use the stereo out...

If Oppo chooses to use XLRs. there are quite a few manfacturers make an RCA to XLR adapter if your setup requires an adapter.... Off the top of my head, mcmelectronics.com, partsexpress.com and Cardas have adapters available (ranging in price from a few dollars to approaching snake oil prices) Also, monoprice sells a rca to XLR ic cable http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...t=1#largeimage
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Blu-ray Players
This thread is locked  

Gear mentioned in this thread:

AVS › AVS Forum › Blu-ray & HD DVD › Blu-ray Players › OPPO BDP-93 Pre-release Thread