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post #61 of 211
thanks guys for calibrations. I just received my 55hx800 yesterday. I'm testing out Omar's calibration and it seems kind of dark to me, and I am doing it at night in the dark. I am new to HD, and I'm using this with my Verizon FIOS Motorola HD DVR QIP 72161. I will also use it with the ps3 for blu-ray and games, but haven't hooked the ps3 up yet, until i get the tv stand.
post #62 of 211
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Originally Posted by arty2hottie View Post

Hey Omar just wondering why this tv has all the additional settings but everyone has them turned off after they have calibrated their tv?
Like Noise Reduction,
MPEG Noise Reduction,
Black Corrector,
ADV. Contrast Enhancer,
Auto Light Dimmer,
Clear White,
Live Color.

Why did Sony even put these on the TV if they make the picture worst? Every calibration I have found for this TV has these all turned off.
Whats your take?

It's the gimmick wars. Its a bit complicated but some of those "features" are put in to reverse compensate for image trickery they create to try and make their tv look more appealing than the next--like pushing red or green beyond normal levels. Some of it is to give "options" for people to tweak their sets any which way regardless if it's correct or not. In the end, most of that stuff can easily be proven to degrad image quality with proper test patterns, I've done so for myself with every one you listed. I turned them on to see what they do,a nd generally they skew image color, distort white by pushing it way into blue, and crush black detail. This is not opinion, it is easily demonstrated fact.

Omar
post #63 of 211
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Originally Posted by Antun View Post

Can someone help, i am very close to returning this tv...standard def is very bad, blury, not shapr at all...both standard def AND movies played on ps3 have terrible pixelation, especially in dark scenes (watched "World Trade Center" and it sucks to see $2,000+ tv display such bad performance watching a dvd.

By the way i have everything hooked up with hdmi 1.4, did Omar's settings from page 1 and still...very disappointing

Is there anything that improves sharpness and eliminates pixelation or did i get a lemon?

Have you tried a blu ray yet?

Omar
post #64 of 211
No i haven't...but it is really annoying watching something and everytime something is black, pixels are moving...especially when programming has black bars on top and bottom...seems like black "attracts" pixels...dont know what to do.
post #65 of 211
Well thats it for the tv, it is in the box now, ready to go back...just cant seem to calibrate good enough to eliminate "the pixel wave", it starts at the bottom of the screen and goes to the top, about 4-5 inches wide every 3-4 seconds...almost kinda like old monitors how they had a line that was going through the screen....maybe it is backlight, maybe it is processing, maybe it is motionflow, maybe this maybe that.

over and out
post #66 of 211
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Originally Posted by Antun View Post

Well thats it for the tv, it is in the box now, ready to go back...just cant seem to calibrate good enough to eliminate "the pixel wave", it starts at the bottom of the screen and goes to the top, about 4-5 inches wide every 3-4 seconds...almost kinda like old monitors how they had a line that was going through the screen....maybe it is backlight, maybe it is processing, maybe it is motionflow, maybe this maybe that.

over and out

That is not a natural part of the set. Either something is wrong with your source or signal path, or you have a defective unit. You may want to consider switching it for a replacement.

Sorry to hear about your problems. It almost sounds like you have extremely dirty power or some kind of signal interference...maybe slap a power conditioner on it before taking the whole set back.

Omar
post #67 of 211
I bought my set and tried it out for 2 weeks and noticed it was good, but not THAT good. However, I exchanged it because the casing of the lower corners was not in place as it is not put together properly.

That one was made on August 2010. Got my replacement last week and it was made on December 2010, and boy let me tell you, huge different. The brightness of the LED is close to twice it was on the August set. The picture quality is just crazy. Close to perfect screen uniformity, no flashlight with Dynamic Led at Standard, and 3D is amazing as well.

So my point is, your set might be defective, or Sony just recently improved this model. Try to exchange for a newer set and see for yourself. I got my set with 2 pairs of glasses, 3D transmitter, and a USB dongle for $1300 even so no complain. I LOVE my TV.

I'm using WD TV Live Plus to play 1080p and also 3D movies in .mkv format and getting this quality, imagine if you use uncompressed Blu-ray.
post #68 of 211
Thanks to all that have posted here. I've learned more than I ever thought I would about video. I bought the TV because I liked what it looked like and have enjoyed everything I've watched on it. I'm only beginning to learn how to tune it and have bought the Disney WOW as an experiment.

I'm a little confused about "Scene Select".

Different posts here have mentioned "Cinema" or "General". One, mentioned "Custom" that I have not found in the i-Manual or on the TV.

Is there a connection between the "Scenes"? In other words, if you change a setting in one "Scene" does it effect any of the others?

Do those that have posted here stick to one single "Scene" or have you assigned them to various purposes and input sources?

Can you create your own "Scene", like a "Custom" one?

What is automatic about the "Automatic" scene? The i-Manual only says it changes based on source? How does it know what the source is? Does it mean "Sports" vs "Movie". Or, BD Player vs DirecTV?

Bill
post #69 of 211
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Originally Posted by bsprague View Post
Thanks to all that have posted here. I've learned more than I ever thought I would about video. I bought the TV because I liked what it looked like and have enjoyed everything I've watched on it. I'm only beginning to learn how to tune it and have bought the Disney WOW as an experiment.

I'm a little confused about "Scene Select".

Different posts here have mentioned "Cinema" or "General". One, mentioned "Custom" that I have not found in the i-Manual or on the TV.

Is there a connection between the "Scenes"? In other words, if you change a setting in one "Scene" does it effect any of the others?

Do those that have posted here stick to one single "Scene" or have you assigned them to various purposes and input sources?

Can you create your own "Scene", like a "Custom" one?

What is automatic about the "Automatic" scene? The i-Manual only says it changes based on source? How does it know what the source is? Does it mean "Sports" vs "Movie". Or, BD Player vs DirecTV?

Bill
General is good to be locked into...If You need another quick Other set of settings push cinema button like for 24 fps Blu Ray... Scene Select Auto: Is only on Tuner less someone comes up with How it works on another input... On Tuner in Auto it will do Sports , Cinema,General, settings with what show & how it is labled on the TV Guilde...
post #70 of 211
Im watching the college bowl championship game on 3d right now and it flickers every 30 sec. Is that the TV or is it my cable network? Its a Motorola dvr box. Its kind of annoying. Just wondering if there is some kind of calibration that can help this or if its just the cable? Thanks
post #71 of 211
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Originally Posted by arty2hottie View Post

Im watching the college bowl championship game on 3d right now and it flickers every 30 sec. Is that the TV or is it my cable network? Its a Motorola dvr box. Its kind of annoying. Just wondering if there is some kind of calibration that can help this or if its just the cable? Thanks

If you mean blocky portions of the screen every 20-30 sec. then mine is doing it too. And if so it is the network. No other channels are doing this. SEC...SEC...SEC!
post #72 of 211
The whole screen flickers real quick. It did it last time I watched ESPN 3D also so it must be the network. Anyone know why that is?
post #73 of 211
Hi Guys - Sorry if I posted this in the wrong place but I hope someone can help. I have a new 40" hx800 but I cannot view any of the movies I have stored on my laptop.

I am running windows 7 on the laptop and have all the settings correct. On the tv menu, it does recognize the computer and when I click on the drive and folders, it only recognizes 2 of the movies out of the 10 that are in the folder. Then, when I try to open the movie, it says "there are no items to display".

I called sony and the guy worked with me for and hour and his conclusion was to download the latest software for the tv but that didn't work either so i am not sure what to do.

Thanks to anyone that assists.
post #74 of 211
Hi Guys - Sorry if I posted this in the wrong place but I hope someone can help. I have a new 40" hx800 but I cannot view any of the movies I have stored on my laptop.

I am running windows 7 on the laptop and have all the settings correct. On the tv menu, it does recognize the computer and when I click on the drive and folders, it only recognizes 2 of the movies out of the 10 that are in the folder. Then, when I try to open the movie, it says "there are no items to display".

I called sony and the guy worked with me for and hour and his conclusion was to download the latest software for the tv but that didn't work either so i am not sure what to do.

Thanks to anyone that assists.
post #75 of 211
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Originally Posted by tomsawyer View Post
Hi Guys - Sorry if I posted this in the wrong place but I hope someone can help. I have a new 40" hx800 but I cannot view any of the movies I have stored on my laptop.

I am running windows 7 on the laptop and have all the settings correct. On the tv menu, it does recognize the computer and when I click on the drive and folders, it only recognizes 2 of the movies out of the 10 that are in the folder. Then, when I try to open the movie, it says "there are no items to display".

I called sony and the guy worked with me for and hour and his conclusion was to download the latest software for the tv but that didn't work either so i am not sure what to do.

Thanks to anyone that assists.
My laptop does not have and HDMI, so I borrowed DW's (dear wife) vista laptop. Having used video projectors at work, I decided to try treating my hx800 the same way. I plugged an HDMI cable into both, pushed the Function/F5 button to send video and audio out of the computer and the TV showed a bright and clear mirror of the computer screen. No matter what I did on the computer, it showed up on the TV and computer at the same time.

What sort of wire are you using? Are you trying to control the laptop from the TV?

(A better thread might be the Official Sony KDL-xxHX800 Owners Thread at http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1256155)
post #76 of 211
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Originally Posted by tomsawyer
Hi Guys - Sorry if I posted this in the wrong place but I hope someone can help. I have a new 40" hx800 but I cannot view any of the movies I have stored on my laptop.

I am running windows 7 on the laptop and have all the settings correct. On the tv menu, it does recognize the computer and when I click on the drive and folders, it only recognizes 2 of the movies out of the 10 that are in the folder. Then, when I try to open the movie, it says "there are no items to display".

I called sony and the guy worked with me for and hour and his conclusion was to download the latest software for the tv but that didn't work either so i am not sure what to do.

Thanks to anyone that assists.
What bsprague said :-)

You'll essentially be using the tv as a computer monitor. Works fine, bypasses the limited file types the tv recognizes.

Omar
post #77 of 211
Sorry if this has already been asked but do these settings apply to the NX800 also?
post #78 of 211
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Originally Posted by tomsawyer View Post

Hi Guys - Sorry if I posted this in the wrong place but I hope someone can help. I have a new 40" hx800 but I cannot view any of the movies I have stored on my laptop.

I am running windows 7 on the laptop and have all the settings correct. On the tv menu, it does recognize the computer and when I click on the drive and folders, it only recognizes 2 of the movies out of the 10 that are in the folder. Then, when I try to open the movie, it says "there are no items to display".

I called sony and the guy worked with me for and hour and his conclusion was to download the latest software for the tv but that didn't work either so i am not sure what to do.

Thanks to anyone that assists.

Are Sony REP's really that stupid? Random customers are smarter than their technical support.

If he had any brains he would have told you the HX800 is limited to AVCHD and MPEG-2 video.

Like others have said, you can connect your computer to your TV. If your computer does not have HDMI, use the VGA out (this is what I do with my laptop because I was unable to get a fullscreen picture out of the HDMI port for some reason. Using the VGA, I was able to get a full 1920x1080 pic to the TV. However, this option poses a problem for audio. You would need to get audio from your computer to your TV/home theatre system somehow.

Luckily I have a external soundcard for my laptop which has optical output. So to sum it up... I have my laptop connected to the HX800 via VGA and Optical cable for sound.

Another option if you have extra money to spend is to get a HD media player. These little boxes basically connect to your network or USB drives the same way the TV would, but they play pretty much all the popular formats out there. I also have one of these for 1080p video because my laptop plays 1080p really choppy (video card is probably not good enough).
post #79 of 211
I have the KDL-52NX800. Will the calibration settings in this thread apply to my TV also?
post #80 of 211
Hey Omar just wondering if you are still running the same setup or if you have changed anything? I have played around with mine but seem to always come back to the calibrations you posted.
post #81 of 211
Just a small update:

I feel as if LED Dynamic control makes picture quality THAT much better. (Even in the eyes of one who loves calibrated televisions only). This is the ONLY and I mean only extra circuit I will leave on "low". Standard darkens the picture and crushes blacks too much. With my 40 inch set on low, there is zero flashlighting or clouding. Brought home a LX909 to demo and the blacks here are very close - do not fork out for the LX. I highly suggest everyone with corner issues or clouding to set Dynamic LED control to low before you return your tv. I actually believe it improves blacks without crushing anything.

Just my .02 cents.
post #82 of 211
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Originally Posted by arty2hottie View Post

Hey Omar just wondering if you are still running the same setup or if you have changed anything? I have played around with mine but seem to always come back to the calibrations you posted.

Tweaked my white balance a bit.

I think it was
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Now is
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But honestly, these settings vary greatly from set to set. I suggest using the method for obtaining white balance levels for your own particular set as detailed in my setup post.

Only other diff. Is that I use game mode for gaming, with backlight set to 7 and all other adjustable settings the same as theater/cinema mode.

Cheers, and put your feet up and enjoy your set. The new Dances with Wolves BR looks great on it :-)

Omar
post #83 of 211
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Originally Posted by OmarF View Post

Tweaked my white balance a bit.

I think it was
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7
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2
2
2

Now is
0
7
2
0
2
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But honestly, these settings vary greatly from set to set. I suggest using the method for obtaining white balance levels for your own particular set as detailed in my setup post.

Only other diff. Is that I use game mode for gaming, with backlight set to 7 and all other adjustable settings the same as theater/cinema mode.

Cheers, and put your feet up and enjoy your set. The new Dances with Wolves BR looks great on it :-)

Omar

Thanks Omar Ill have to check that out.
post #84 of 211
Hi guys, I need some help.
Here is my problem-I am connected to Comcast without a box, so I can get broadcast HD; I don't care that the rest is in SD (and the HX doesn't do well with SD).
So, if I use my DVE-bluray setup disc, that will set my HDMI input- but my cable signal is input on the "tv" (coax) input, so how do I adjust for the HD broadcast stations?
What I am trying to say is that I can't use the DVD setup disc while I am in the "tv" input. Am I making sense?
I tried to set the settings to "common", rather than input specific, but when I switched back to "tv" from "HDMI", they didn't carry over.
Any help is appreciated. By the way, the picture is very good for the HD stations over cable, except for a bluish tinge when in "Neutral" temp-I have tried "warm2", but just seems to make whites sort of brownish (ice in hockey game isn't really white, but beigey (is that a word?).
Thanks again
post #85 of 211
Is there anyone here with a dim to dark room using both Directv HD DVR and PS3?? Just curious on the calibration you used so I can test it out once my 55hx800 arrives... :-)
post #86 of 211
just got this tv and love it, i have an old xbox 360 with component cables, should i use game mode? standard or normal, what other changes?
post #87 of 211
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Originally Posted by OmarF View Post

The new Dances with Wolves BR looks great on it :-)

Omar

We just watched that on bluray this weekend.
The panoramic sky/horizon shots were nothing short of amazing.
They did a nice job mastering that disc without a doubt.
post #88 of 211
Just got the 40 inch HX800, which turned out to be the perfect screen size for my room without feeling like the TV is taking things over. It is used with a channel master 4040 indoor antenna directly into the Sony's built in tuner for OTA HD reception, I get many channels in 720P or 1080i and the picture quality is phenomenal. DVD source is a SD Pioneer 58AV with "upconvert" via component cables. It is used mostly at night in a low lit room. I tested it out with a few SD DVD movies, and some HD broadcasts. I found there is no single set of settings where everything looked good with different movie DVD's, TV show DVD's or when changing between stations, there is no one size fits all mode. But I found you can get anything to look excellent by using all the setting options it has. For example clear 1 looked better on some shows, off on others, color temp settings varied also, with warm 2 being over saturated on certain things, while others looked great with warm 1 or neutral. I did seem to be able to get rid of the slight greenish tint I noticed out of the box. Maybe that's why LCD's are known for the crazy looking grass! I'll post some of my settings later, but can not give any guarantee they will work well in your application. After a few years on this forum and looking around at CC, BB, and others, I finally took the plunge and am very satisfied with my purchase. I was happy with the 2 Sony CRT's I've owned, so I stayed with them, plus I needed analog audio out.
post #89 of 211
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Originally Posted by TVMAN1991 View Post
Thanks! I have to agree, it looks nice.
Yes that's what I found too. The myriad of adjustments and how they might work in tandem simply does not allow something approaching a set and forget with this TV. If it looks good, it feels good, better to look good than to feel good!
post #90 of 211
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Originally Posted by dilberttv

Yes that's what I found too. The myriad of adjustments and how they might work in tandem simply does not allow something approaching a set and forget with this TV. If it looks good, it feels good, better to look good than to feel good!
Next you need to buy a blu ray player :-)
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