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post #1471 of 1634
3/7/12 at 10:58am
Are u talking bout a flash of light flicker, or like a video hiccup, aka frame drop, aka motion glitch?
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post #1472 of 1634
3/7/12 at 2:17pm
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Originally Posted by naustin View Post

If you talking about a single quick flicker every 2 hours like clockwork, i'd suggest it might be an internal memory buffer clearing/resetting. Didn't you mention you use the picture in picture function a lot? PIP might be a cause...

No, I don't use PIP all the time but I did notice the flicker when I was using it one time. It doesn't flicker after a certain amount of time, it could happen a couple of times in an hour or once every few hours. It's basically random.
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post #1473 of 1634
3/7/12 at 2:19pm
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Are u talking bout a flash of light flicker, or like a video hiccup, aka frame drop, aka motion glitch?

the whole screen will dim for a split second.

I guess the word dim might not describe it right, it's like the backlight goes black for a very quick split second. It's very fast but it's definitely noticable.
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post #1474 of 1634
3/8/12 at 12:15pm
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I have both of them turned off, I never use them. Thanks for the suggestion.

"Also try fiddling with the CEC Funtions"

Trying turning it/some of its features ON like "Device Discover"
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post #1475 of 1634
3/8/12 at 5:08pm
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I've had my TV for close to a year now and it's been great. However, recently I'm having random periods of what I would describe as "framerate" issues. It's like the picture slows down for a bit, and is a little choppy. I'm not seeing pixelation or distortion, just a kind of drag. It seems to be happening on my FIOS box on some movies, my bluray player, and Netflix. I've tried changing picture settings, changing HDMI inputs, and did a factory reset, but it still seems to be happening. Anyone have any ideas on this?

I've noticed the same thing with mine. Glad I'm not the only one. Are you using an AV Receiver? If so, which one? Onkyo TX NR609 here. Some people on the Onkyo thread are complaining about a picture stutter, but it seems to be different than what I'm experiencing. Like you, I'm seeing it with multiple sources (DVR, Roku, and Bluray) and it just seems like the framerate slows down for a few seconds. I'm surprised no one else has seen this. I think it might have started happening after the last firmware update.
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post #1476 of 1634
3/9/12 at 11:51am
I had picture stutter with an Onkyo 609. Returned it for a Denon. Better, but I can still see stutter on certain channels and programs with the motion setting on low. If its off, I don't see it.
And yeah, I like the smoother motion setting!
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post #1477 of 1634
3/9/12 at 3:17pm
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Originally Posted by MacdaddyPS View Post

I had picture stutter with an Onkyo 609. Returned it for a Denon. Better, but I can still see stutter on certain channels and programs with the motion setting on low. If its off, I don't see it.
And yeah, I like the smoother motion setting!

No stutter with my Onkyo 608, I have the AVR's video processing set to off or pass-thru.
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post #1478 of 1634
3/9/12 at 4:03pm
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Originally Posted by kkrueger View Post

I've noticed the same thing with mine. Glad I'm not the only one. Are you using an AV Receiver? If so, which one? Onkyo TX NR609 here. Some people on the Onkyo thread are complaining about a picture stutter, but it seems to be different than what I'm experiencing. Like you, I'm seeing it with multiple sources (DVR, Roku, and Bluray) and it just seems like the framerate slows down for a few seconds. I'm surprised no one else has seen this. I think it might have started happening after the last firmware update.

I do have a receiver, but I don't have the TV hooked up to it except for audio out when I watch streaming material. It's a Yamaha receiver. I have the HDMI directly connected to the blu ray player and the DVR. The vid seems a bit better of late. I watched a couple recordings on the DVR and the slow framerate happened once or twice but after pausing and playing it went away. I watched a whole episode of Bones on blu ray and the video seemed fine.
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post #1479 of 1634
3/9/12 at 5:14pm
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Originally Posted by naustin View Post

No stutter with my Onkyo 608, I have the AVR's video processing set to off or pass-thru.

Same with my Onkyo 707...got it set to pass through the video signal and no problems of any kind.
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post #1480 of 1634
3/10/12 at 3:53am
Last night I watched Hugo 2D on the 554 and during the opening scenes where it starts with the city and then goes to the train station my picture was not very clear at all. The scan lines would like jump up and down. Not sure if I'm explaining this right but it's like with the old crts when you had horizontal lines on the screen like horizontal blinds it would flicker up and down.

I had everything like Smooth Motion, Light Sensor and Local Dimming off. I also tried it with them on.

Later I tried the beginning of the movie on my 553 and it played smooth.

Has anyone else noticed this. I know I'm comparing a 3D vs non 3D set so I don't know if this is normal on this set. I have breifly noticed this a couple of times in other movies.
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post #1481 of 1634
3/10/12 at 6:03am
Umm No that is not normal, your 554 definitely has issues. *If you tried the movie on both sets and 1 is acting up....seems pretty obvious to me what the answer is.

If being used in regular 2D mode, one of the tv's having 3D functionality is meaningless. In 2D, the two sets should operate the same, end of story, the 554's 3D has no bearing on the anomoly you're seeing.
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post #1482 of 1634
3/10/12 at 10:26am
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Originally Posted by spoonmandts View Post

Umm No that is not normal, your 554 definitely has issues. *If you tried the movie on both sets and 1 is acting up....seems pretty obvious to me what the answer is.

If being used in regular 2D mode, one of the tv's having 3D functionality is meaningless. In 2D, the two sets should operate the same, end of story, the 554's 3D has no bearing on the anomoly you're seeing.

Thanks, I figured that but wanted another opinion. Between this and the occasional flickering I have I guess it's time to give Vizio a call again. If it wasn't that I like the glossy screen on the 554 I would settle for another 553. The 3D is fun occasionally but it's pretty hard to watch an entire movie with those glasses on, for me anyway. Plus the ghosting or talkback you get with the movies can get irritating.
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post #1483 of 1634
3/10/12 at 10:34am
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Originally Posted by Burnerbum View Post

Last night I watched Hugo 2D on the 554 and during the opening scenes where it starts with the city and then goes to the train station my picture was not very clear at all. The scan lines would like jump up and down. Not sure if I'm explaining this right but it's like with the old crts when you had horizontal lines on the screen like horizontal blinds it would flicker up and down.

I had everything like Smooth Motion, Light Sensor and Local Dimming off. I also tried it with them on.

Later I tried the beginning of the movie on my 553 and it played smooth.

Has anyone else noticed this. I know I'm comparing a 3D vs non 3D set so I don't know if this is normal on this set. I have breifly noticed this a couple of times in other movies.

Not normal. I'd suggest trying a new $8 HDMI cable before calling Vizio. Sometimes "repairs" just make things worse.
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post #1484 of 1634
3/15/12 at 6:11pm
Just got my 1st dead pixel yesterday after having TV for about 6 months. Hope it doesn't develop further.

How many dead pixels are required to get fixed under warranty? Have extended through Costco.
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post #1485 of 1634
3/15/12 at 9:17pm
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Just got my 1st dead pixel yesterday after having TV for about 6 months. Hope it doesn't develop further.

How many dead pixels are required to get fixed under warranty? Have extended through Costco.

This is disappointing to hear. It would be worth contacting Vizio and asking that very question.
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post #1486 of 1634
3/17/12 at 2:47pm
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Originally Posted by kkrueger View Post

I've noticed the same thing with mine. Glad I'm not the only one. Are you using an AV Receiver? If so, which one? Onkyo TX NR609 here. Some people on the Onkyo thread are complaining about a picture stutter, but it seems to be different than what I'm experiencing. Like you, I'm seeing it with multiple sources (DVR, Roku, and Bluray) and it just seems like the framerate slows down for a few seconds. I'm surprised no one else has seen this. I think it might have started happening after the last firmware update.

Are you still having this issue? I still am randomly. Watched the Godfather blu ray and perfectly fine. Watched Spartacus on the DVR and random slow video again. Called Vizio and they had me basically turn all the advanced audio and picture settings off. No way to roll back the firmware apparently.
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post #1487 of 1634
3/18/12 at 8:05pm
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1391221

Looks like other are having the same issue as me per the above thread on the 553 TV's.
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post #1488 of 1634
3/19/12 at 8:44am
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http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1391221

Looks like other are having the same issue as me per the above thread on the 553 TV's.

So the problem with the 553 is now showing up on the 554? What FW version is causing the problem on the 554?

I've had my 553 disconnected from the internet since I read about it and before mine updated. I just disconnected my 554.. I haven't recieved a new FW on the 554 in a while. I don't think I have!
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post #1489 of 1634
3/19/12 at 10:46am
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Originally Posted by Burnerbum View Post

So the problem with the 553 is now showing up on the 554? What FW version is causing the problem on the 554?

I've had my 553 disconnected from the internet since I read about it and before mine updated. I just disconnected my 554.. I haven't recieved a new FW on the 554 in a while. I don't think I have!

The last firmware update I got was MP-VIA3D-XP5.0.1.0-S on December 16th.

It seems Vizio is trying to fix their long standing 24 fps 3:2 pull down issues with film media. I'm guessing its only affecting those that aren't using Smooth Motion which inherently masks the issue. It looks like the firmware update issue is worse on the older XVT models like the 552 & 553 which probably have more outdated electronic components.
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post #1490 of 1634
3/19/12 at 11:28am
Just a follow up to my earlier post. If you read many TV reviews you will see a lot of TVs have problems with panning film shots not just Vizio.

One helpful hint I read somewhere. Many TVs have an automatic film (24 fps) detection setting and some dvd/blu ray players also have a similar setting which can cause problems with handshakes. I leave my TV on auto and set my PS3 to always send 24 fps material as encoded to minimize problems. FWIW...
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post #1491 of 1634
3/19/12 at 4:23pm
My 553 has this problem whether Film Mode is turned to Auto or Off. I have both my Blu-Ray and HD-DVD players set to 24fps and it does it more on HD-DVDs than Blu-Rays, it also does it on analog (tape and disc) sources upconverted via HDMI through my receiver or going straight to the regular Video In jack. I read something earlier about problems it had with film sources, but I couldn't see it and nobody explained what it was exactly. It's very easy to see the problem here.
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post #1492 of 1634
3/19/12 at 4:50pm
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Originally Posted by naustin View Post

The last firmware update I got was MP-VIA3D-XP5.0.1.0-S on December 16th.

It seems Vizio is trying to fix their long standing 24 fps 3:2 pull down issues with film media. I'm guessing its only affecting those that aren't using Smooth Motion which inherently masks the issue. It looks like the firmware update issue is worse on the older XVT models like the 552 & 553 which probably have more outdated electronic components.

I didn't have any issues with film media before this "upgrade". I feel like my TV is partially broken now. I can't watch that Smooth Motion garbage and I shouldn't have to. The firmware above is the same that I have. I think mine updated in January, though. Also, it makes no difference if I have film mode on or off on the TV. I have the blu ray player set to send 24 fps as well.
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post #1493 of 1634
3/19/12 at 6:21pm
Also if anyone has any PAL (European standard) sources, such as a DVD player that plays PAL-format discs without converting to NTSC, check any film material on those. Mine forces the smooth-motion "garbage" on with PAL material, again regardless of settings.

It would be nice if Vizio would upgrade my TV to a 3D model for having to deal with this, but sounds like their 3D model has the same problem! (I bought mine about a month before the 3D models were announced!)
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post #1494 of 1634
3/20/12 at 5:01am
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Originally Posted by naustin View Post

The last firmware update I got was MP-VIA3D-XP5.0.1.0-S on December 16th.

It seems Vizio is trying to fix their long standing 24 fps 3:2 pull down issues with film media. I'm guessing its only affecting those that aren't using Smooth Motion which inherently masks the issue. It looks like the firmware update issue is worse on the older XVT models like the 552 & 553 which probably have more outdated electronic components.

OK, that explains it, I have Smooth Motion turned on all the time and I've been turning my settings to off to see if anything changes with this screen flickering. When SM was turned off I did notice that the movie didn't seem smooth (slightly jerky) but I thought it was because I was so use to SM on.

I have the same FW you have.

I guess I'm going to call for service in this flickering and the problem I have when there are thin horizontal lines on the screen that jump up and down. The beginning scene of Hugo really showed it, the lights from the city were flickering like crazy. Doesn't happen on my 553.

Thanks naustin
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post #1495 of 1634
4/6/12 at 5:51am
I called Vizio about the flickering and she said they were going to send out someone to replace the backlight. I asked her if they were replacing the whole backlight and she said she wasn't sure if it was the whole thing or just a board. This will be interesting....

I asked if she knew when the new models would be coming out and she said this summer. I wonder what happened this year, they are really slow with new sets coming out. It looks like they are starting to move to other components now like computers, tablets etc.
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post #1496 of 1634
4/7/12 at 4:34pm
I wonder if the 554/553 sets will continue to be Vizio's best sets PQ wise or if they are gonna start making new BACKLIT LED sets(or maybe OLED?)
I heard b4 they were done with them and going the EdgeLit route
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post #1497 of 1634
4/7/12 at 6:34pm
Why would ANYONE switch to edge-lit? This clearly doesn't seem like the best choice for picture quality. I've heard the only real advantage to edge-lit is that it enables the whole TV to be thinner, but how thin does a TV HAVE to be anyways? Anything thinner than a CRT is thin enough in my opinion!
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post #1498 of 1634
4/8/12 at 12:42pm
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Why would ANYONE switch to edge-lit? This clearly doesn't seem like the best choice for picture quality. I've heard the only real advantage to edge-lit is that it enables the whole TV to be thinner, but how thin does a TV HAVE to be anyways? Anything thinner than a CRT is thin enough in my opinion!

I totally agree. Thin is nice but picture quality is much more important to me. Plus the audio in these super thin sets sound like a Japanese Transistor Radio from the 50's. If they made the 65" in full backlit I would buy one. If the 554 was still available I would buy another one for my cottage. I have the 553 also but in a bright room the 554 is much much better. I had both my 553 and 554 sitting side by side in my family room which is very bright and everyone that looked at it agreed that the 554 was much easier to see, especially in the dark scenes.
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post #1499 of 1634
4/8/12 at 8:54pm
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Originally Posted by Burnerbum View Post

I totally agree. Thin is nice but picture quality is much more important to me. Plus the audio in these super thin sets sound like a Japanese Transistor Radio from the 50's. If they made the 65" in full backlit I would buy one. If the 554 was still available I would buy another one for my cottage. I have the 553 also but in a bright room the 554 is much much better. I had both my 553 and 554 sitting side by side in my family room which is very bright and everyone that looked at it agreed that the 554 was much easier to see, especially in the dark scenes.

Agreed. I used to think that a matte screen was the only way to go. I had heard about the full array LED's going away and pulled the trigger on the 554, but was bummed that the screen was glossy. OMG is the glossy thing overhyped. This 554 has proved to be notihng short of spectacular even on standard def channels. So glad I got one before they faded into history.....
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post #1500 of 1634
4/9/12 at 5:06am
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Agreed. I used to think that a matte screen was the only way to go. I had heard about the full array LED's going away and pulled the trigger on the 554, but was bummed that the screen was glossy. OMG is the glossy thing overhyped. This 554 has proved to be notihng short of spectacular even on standard def channels. So glad I got one before they faded into history.....

I'm glad to hear someone has the same opinion of the Glossy Screen as me. I had my 553 for only 2 months when the 554 came out and when I saw the Glossy Screen I grabbed it. Not for the 3D but the screen. I guess I could have returned the 553 (90 day return) but I just couldn't bring myself to returning a perfectly good set because of the screen. I put the 553 in the basement and in moderate lighting it also has a stunning picture.

Prior to buying the 554 I bought a Samsung with the Glossy Screen and it had a excellent picture. The problems were the sound was horrible and to get the picture bright enough I had to have the Backlight and Brightness at 95% which left no room for adjustment as the backlight aged and got dimmer so I did return that set.
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