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post #991 of 1192
I buy mine warranty's from SquareTrade.com
I have not had to use any of them yet, but the price is usually about 1/2 of the retail stores warranty, and they are highly recommended by consumer groups and reviews, so hopefully if I need service, it will be worth it.

As for LCD's not being made in 2 or 3 years... I dont believe that. What are they going to replace them with? There is not a single viable option on the table right now other than plasma... I have always wondered why they dont use a big fiber optic bundle, with individually addressable fibers. Lined up 1920 wide by 1080 tall, and driven with LED bulbs, I would think they would be REALLY bright, high contrast, and last almost forever.
post #992 of 1192
I think that worker was a typical idiot retail employee who probably doesn't know that LED's are still LCD and just confused the situation buy saying that LCD's will no longer be made when in fact he should have said CCFL LCD's.
post #993 of 1192
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Originally Posted by -RONIN- View Post

I think that worker was a typical idiot retail employee who probably doesn't know that LED's are still LCD and just confused the situation buy saying that LCD's will no longer be made when in fact he should have said CCFL LCD's.


yeah thats what he meant, suggesting that LED replacement of same size would probably be the only option. I went back and did haggle on the warranty price as you sugessted (thanks!) and he is ready to drop the TV price by half of warranty. I guess that serves them better as I cannot claim much price-match if the price falls in coming weeks.
Still reaching higher end of 1k after taxes. Really want to get something fast. Should I , should not..should I ,,,not...enough of time spent on saving couple of hundred ..really confused.
post #994 of 1192
So I picked one of these up 2 weeks ago and discovered an issue. I wanted to see if anyone had encountered the same problem. On the bottom edge, approximately 14 inches from the left hand side there is a definite spot where the backlight is bleeding through. It is only evident when I'm watching a movie that uses letterbox, or if there is a really dark scene that hits that particular area of the screen. There are no problems with the pixels and pictures that take up the entire screen do not show the backlight coming through. It's a minor issue and kind of hard to notice at first, but enough of an issue for me to take my first one back. After exchanging it for a new unit, I fired it up and found the same exact issue in almost the same exact spot. At this point it seems to me like a manufacturing problem, so I was wondering if people encountered the same issue with theirs? I am going to call Sharp to see if I can get any info out of them (which I'm cautiously optimistic about but not holding out too much hope). I just find it hard to believe with all of the great reviews on here and on the Best Buy site with no mention of this problem that this is a far reaching issue. My thought is to try exchanging it a third time at a different store in case the entire lot that was produced and shipped to the store I've been purchasing them from was bad. Thoughts? Any help on this would be appreciated!

I'm posting a real simple diagram of the issue. Sharp wanted me to take a picture of and send it to them, but I'm no professional photographer and it's pretty much impossible to take a picture of light bleeding through in a dimly lit room.


LL
post #995 of 1192
Sorry to hear that. I'm going to sound like a broken record here but I have no such issues with mine. I have had the TV for well over a month now and have watched every aspect ratio there is and haven't seen anything like that. Sounds like you just got a bad set. It happens, no manufacturer is immune to it.

If it's only been 2 weeks, box it up and return for another. That's probably what Sharp will tell you anyway as the first 30 days are the retailers problem.
post #996 of 1192
Yes, I have the same problem in the same spot. I though I could live with it because it can only be seen at night with letter boxed bar at the bottom of the screen like HP DH Pt1. I got mine from Best Buy 3 weeks ago.
post #997 of 1192
Ditto. I posted a picture much earlier in the thread. I suspect it is a place where wire come through a grommet or something similar. Mine is so unnoticeable unless I am looking for it, I didnt worry about it. I rarely watch letterbox, and turned my backlight way down during calibration anyway.
post #998 of 1192
Same issue here, no biggie. I would not exchange this set only because of that small leak since there is a risk of getting one with dead/stuck pixels which would be a real problem.
post #999 of 1192
My set has the same flashlighting. Apparently some people have had luck removing the back cover of the TV and slightly loosening the screw found in that location. Mine isn't severe enough to bother; I never notice it during movies.

If you have a HTPC you can check to see if your player allows repositioning of the picture. On letterbox films I always move the picture to the bottom portion of the screen... it has the double benefit of placing the picture more into my line of sight as well as covering the flashlighting (which doesn't bug me anyway).
post #1000 of 1192
I have had this TV set up for a little over 1 week now and have watched 5 movies on it during this time. I must say so far I am rather impressed and have a lot to like about it and very little to dislike. In fact I can't think of anything really meaningful to dislike about it but its not perfect.

I am still learning the interface since all other TV's in my house are Samsung's and unfortunately the instructions on this Sharp unit are next to useless and what is there I need a magnifying glass to read. So most of my learning has been on the fly just tinkering with it. For the first couple of films I watched I was not quit happy with the look of the picture. It was not bad at all but just more vivid and bright then I like. I tried various settings and features with little change. I then remember experiencing this on my Samsung's and it was easily solved by putting it in "Film" mode. In the menu at the top it showed the picture mode as "Standard" however I could not access it via the menu and I was starting to get frustrated that it did not have any modes. Pretty disappointing considering even your most budget brands have different modes for different types of sources. I read the worthless instructions (What I could read without my reading glasses..LOL) I could not figure out how to get it off of "Standard" mode.

Finely during the 3rd movie when checking out the remote in the upper right hand corner I see a button labeled "AV Mode" and selected it to get my "Movie" mode and bang I got the softer look I was looking for. It turns out it is in the instructions under the remote control part but it was not labeled in the picture adjustments part of the instructions at all. So very cool that is has all the modes seen on other brands. Some different naming but all the same stuff.

Next big question was the picture settings actually adjustable in this mode? Some TV's when you select a picture mode it blocks out most if not all the picture settings. So if you don't like it you can't do anything about it. I had an old Toshiba CRT RPTV that was like this. All the modes were blocked out and you were stuck with what the manufacture thought it should look like. I am happy to report that you can adjust these modes to your liking on this Sharp unit.

As for adjustments I was amazed that such a budget TV had so many picture options. Usually your more basic TV's have just your basic adjustments but on this Sharp Unit you have the color EQ's and Gamma Adjustments plus some others I can think of off the top of my head. With the right equipment you could really dial this set in.

So far I have only watched films in Blu Ray. Blu Ray looks amazingly good and full of detail. I have not tried a regular DVD and of coarse have not tried a DVD that was not anamorphic so I have not tried the zoom modes yet to see how this TV scales but I will get to it eventually.

I did notice some loss of detail when in the Stretch Mode compared to Dot by Dot. Samsung calls Dot by Dot, Just Scan and Stretch Mode is called 16:9. Same things just different names is all. Even though in theory you loose detail anytime you zoom in the picture it is more noticeable on this Sharp unit compared to my Samsung's. However I am sure screen size has a lot to do with it.

Only real complaints so far that I can think of is the poor audio in the speakers but its not all bad and I have heard worse. In fact my Samsung's are all worse audio. So its not really an official complaint and this flaw is inherent in most LCD sets. Another complaint (and this is silly) is the instructions are bordering on worthless. However this is of no fault of the Television however it did take a bit of extra time to figure the TV out because of it. Now if the TV had a simpler interface perhaps I would not even need the instructions. Its not a bad interface but its not nearly as sexy as what you get on a Samsung.

I suppose the only really valid complaint I have is I wish you could access the different picture modes inside the picture menu instead of using the "AV Mode" button on the remote. I don't know maybe I can but just have not figured it out yet?

In a totally dark room with a muted black picture on the screen. Honestly its not real dark but then neither is any other LCD in a totally dark room. I do see some clouding but nothing that really stands out. Just a little black dot that is slightly darker in the center right hand side of the screen about the size of a dime. It can be seen in a totally dark room with the muted black picture on the screen. No screen defects are noticeable once a picture is placed on the screen even in a totally dark room so far. I bet watching a space adventure film will yield some clouding but probably not a distraction.

As for the defect mentioned above I don't see it on my set. However my back light it turned down and in "Movie" mode it seems to take out the vividness to the brightness so such a defect would likely get washed out anyway.

No this Sharp unit is far from perfect when it comes to clouding and flash lighting but it looks far more even then my dad's Samsung 60" LN60C6300 TV. I love Samsung's I really do and for the most part I like my dad's TV but in a dark room with a muted black picture on the screen the clouding and flash lighting is awful. However even on his display with a movie on the screen its hardly noticeable most of the time.

In a nutshell this is an awesome TV for a great price. Its also one of the last CCFL LCD's available in this size. I can already see the advantages of the CCFL back light with a more natural white and less blooming. I really don't think you can go wrong with it and for many in this economy you have to budget on this stuff. At least for some of us anyway.

I suppose the only thing I am kind of down about is I told myself my next big display was going to have 3D. I am not a hard core 3D fan but do appreciate its novelty status. It could be a lot of fun for certain films and it would be nice to have a TV that supported it for these special times. However right now the premium for 3D is still kind of steep.

Oh as for the size it took a movie or 2 but I quickly adjusted and now prefer the slightly smaller display.
post #1001 of 1192
Next thing you need to do is ditch those junky factory pre-set AV modes and if nothing else calibrate it yourself using a disk.
post #1002 of 1192
Hi guys. No talk in a few months. To recap, I bought this TV in late January. No problems until last night. Blew a fuse in the apartment and of course everything shut off. After starting again, the internal speakers do not work. The external speakers still work but it's a new tv and everything should work. To me, a blown fuse should be just like shutting the TV regularly. This shouldn't knock out the internal speakers.

It's still under warranty plus I bought the best Buy warranty. Does anyone have any suggestions about settings maybe changing? I checked them. I appreciate any input.

Thanks,

Phil
post #1003 of 1192
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post #1004 of 1192
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Originally Posted by philt123 View Post

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Obviously nobody has an answer for you. Have you called Sharp tech?
post #1005 of 1192
Yes I did. When connectiing the HDMI right from the satellite box to the tv, the sound works. So it's a SONY problem. (Home theatre system).
post #1006 of 1192
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Originally Posted by philt123 View Post

Yes I did. When connectiing the HDMI right from the satellite box to the tv, the sound works. So it's a SONY problem. (Home theatre system).

I guess on the positive side of things, your TV is fine.
post #1007 of 1192
Wow in this Sunday's bestbuy flyer they have a 70" Sharp LED for 3K, man dats lotta tv i would defin get it if it was 2 grand.
post #1008 of 1192
Does anyone know how the TV passes through the digital audio signal? Is it a bitstream or PCM signal at the time of output? I have one of these TVs but have not used it and could not find any info in the documentation with it.
post #1009 of 1192
When watching tv with directv hd...what "view mode" should i be using.....stretch, full screen, s.stretch, or zoom? thanks
post #1010 of 1192
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Originally Posted by WEATHERBY460 View Post

When watching tv with directv hd...what "view mode" should i be using.....stretch, full screen, s.stretch, or zoom? thanks

Depends how the DirecTv box is set.

Personally, I have all resolutions selected on the DirecTv box, have it set to Native On, Pillar Box, Black, and use the "Dot by Dot" setting (Full screen) on the Sharp.
post #1011 of 1192
I have had this set about two weeks and I have been struggling with what I would call a slow motion effect watching both golf and hockey. As a golfer addresses his ball, and just before he swings, the image goes into slow motion until he completes his swing. Then the picture will return to normal. The same thing happens in hockey games as the referee goes to drop the puck during a faceoff. The picture will go into slow motion until the faceoff is complete. This effect doesn't happen all the time, but enough that I am considering taking it back.

I have used both component and HDMI connections with Fine Motion Enhanced turned both on and off with no luck. My 37" Sharp Aquos does not exhibit this problem. And the 50" Sony Grand Wega that used to be connected to this same DirecTV HR-20/700 did not exhibit this problem.

Any suggestions?
post #1012 of 1192
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Originally Posted by Rangerman View Post

I have had this set about two weeks and I have been struggling with what I would call a slow motion effect watching both golf and hockey. As a golfer addresses his ball, and just before he swings, the image goes into slow motion until he completes his swing. Then the picture will return to normal. The same thing happens in hockey games as the referee goes to drop the puck during a faceoff. The picture will go into slow motion until the faceoff is complete. This effect doesn't happen all the time, but enough that I am considering taking it back.

I have used both component and HDMI connections with Fine Motion Enhanced turned both on and off with no luck. My 37" Sharp Aquos does not exhibit this problem. And the 50" Sony Grand Wega that used to be connected to this same DirecTV HR-20/700 did not exhibit this problem.

Any suggestions?

im noticing the same thing on mine when watching the nba playoffs. random slow motion studders...
post #1013 of 1192
I think I may have found a solution to the problem. I originally had Digital Noise Reduction turned off. So I thought, what would be the most demanding auto setting Sharp would program - Game Mode. So I looked at Game Mode and the only difference from my User Setting was that Digital Noise Reduction was set to Auto. I changed my User Setting for Digital Noise Reduction to Auto and so far so good.

The second and third period of the Red Wings and Sharks game looked perfect. And the replay of the Wells Fargo tournament on Golf Channel looked just as good. Time will tell if this is the answer.
post #1014 of 1192
So you set dnr to auto? Game mode is there more for video games not sports on tv. I'll have to try the dnr. I think I turned mine off.
post #1015 of 1192
DNR should have no effect on slow motion studder. Game mode is specifically programed to eliminate all video processing to help correct motion and input lag. I'm just guessing here but if when you changed over to game mode the picture became less jittery then there was another setting turned on that was the cause.
post #1016 of 1192
I just turned off film mode, dnr on auto, fine motion on. i'll post back in a little bit if it makes a difference.
post #1017 of 1192
Here in Canada, Future Shop has a really good sale on this TV until May 12 if you can still find a store that actually has it in stock. I think they are trying to clear out the last of their inventory. I came really, really close to buying it (to the point where I had a bit of a dizzy spell in the store) but in the end decided that my current three-year-old 42" 1080p plasma television is still working great and originally cost me a little over $2000 when I bought it (with the extended warranty and sales tax). I hate to write off that big of an investment on a TV after that short of time. Before high definition TV's were the norm, we would gladly buy a $500 tube TV and hang on to it for years!
post #1018 of 1192
So it seems like turning off film mode has fixed the slow motion lags for me
post #1019 of 1192
Even though it didn't make any sense, setting Digital Noise Reduction to Auto appeared at first to correct my lag problem. However tonight it was clear it did not fix my issue.

I have now turned Fine Motion Enhanced off and it looks to be promising. I think my DirecTV HR20-700 doesn't want to play nice with the 120 Hz processing in the TV. It's my understanding that turning Fine Motion Enhanced off reverts the TV back to 60 Hz processing. If my understanding of Fine Motion Enhanced is wrong, please correct me.
post #1020 of 1192
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Originally Posted by Rangerman View Post

It's my understanding that turning Fine Motion Enhanced off reverts the TV back to 60 Hz processing. If my understanding of Fine Motion Enhanced is wrong, please correct me.

I think that's incorrect. From my readings and research, a 120Hz TV can't be "reverted" back to 60Hz. The 120Hz is a refresh rate of the screen and isn't something that can be turned off. The TV either has it or doesn't. Fine Motion Enhanced is Sharps technology of maximizing the response time of the pixels.
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