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post #10621 of 16457
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Originally Posted by Rock Danger View Post

I have a logitech 900 and have no issues with the Anthem. Are you using IR or the RF blaster to control it? If you're using IR, try assigning the MRX to the blaster.

There is no other channel just the option of IR or RF to control devices.

Sorry. What do you mean by assigning MRX to blaster? What are the steps do to for this task?

I believe I am using IR. Basically, I got powered device (extender) and I connected one of mini blaster to it and put it in front of mrx 700 on the left side around 6 inches front of receiver.
post #10622 of 16457
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Originally Posted by Tigger! View Post

Have you made sure the latest updates are on your remote? I have a Harmony One, but if you are using IR, they should behave the same.

As for 3D, try and see if you can some how block your MRX's IR receiver from seeing the Projector. (of course it still needs to see the remote from where you are sitting...).

You might try blocking the IR transmitter on your porjector (even for non 3D content) and see if all of your problems go away. Not a permanent fix, but at least it would help you isolate if the IR transmitter on the Projector is causing some or all of your issues.

As mentioned earlier, switching to RF on the remote and using an IR blaster for the MRX could be your solution if you find that covering the IR transmitter on your projector was a temporary solution. Keep in mind that you want to make sure the MRX can only see the IR blaster and not the projector when you go this route. Otherwise the Projector could still overwhelm the IR sensor on the MRX.

Anthem receiver is facing projector. That could be the problem. I can try moving it to not to face projector little and try again.

I believe except projector all my devices Oppo 93, mrx are assigned to use RF only. I am using extender and ir blasters in front of oppo and mrx.
I will check the settings to make sure about it. I think status light on blaster is blinking, but some how mrx is kind of sleeping and responds for more than couple of clicks on the remote.

Also, How come original MRX remote responds well and works with projector 3d turned on as well to increase the volume. What is the difference to use IR with MRX remote vs converted IR from RF using Logitech 900?
post #10623 of 16457
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Originally Posted by sukumar View Post

Anthem receiver is facing projector. That could be the problem. I can try moving it to not to face projector little and try again.

I believe except projector all my devices Oppo 93, mrx are assigned to use RF only. I am using extender and ir blasters in front of oppo and mrx.
I will check the settings to make sure about it. I think status light on blaster is blinking, but some how mrx is kind of sleeping and responds for more than couple of clicks on the remote.

Press 'activities' the 'options' (on the screen) then go 2 pages across until you come to 'device assignment' press that and then select your AVR a little icon will denote it being assigned - then the setup wizard will run.

I never understood why people wouldn't use this feature, it's great for not having to point the remote at any of your devices - it works basically like an xbox remote, however I don't see why your original remote is fine and not the logitech.
post #10624 of 16457
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Originally Posted by Rock Danger View Post

Press 'activities' the 'options' (on the screen) then go 2 pages across until you come to 'device assignment' press that and then select your AVR a little icon will denote it being assigned - then the setup wizard will run.

I never understood why people wouldn't use this feature, it's great for not having to point the remote at any of your devices - it works basically like an xbox remote, however I don't see why your original remote is fine and not the logitech.

Thanks for reply. I will verify device assignment. I think it is already assigned all devices except projector as RF. I will also try to increase volume from outside of home theater to see if it is really responding as RF.

My system is facing me but on extreme right side. I can even try playing assignment RF vs IR to see how it works.
post #10625 of 16457
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Originally Posted by Rock Danger View Post

I have a logitech 900 and have no issues with the Anthem. Are you using IR or the RF blaster to control it? If you're using IR, try assigning the MRX to the blaster.

There is no other channel just the option of IR or RF to control devices.

I can't speak for the 900 but my Anthem has worked perfectly from the day I programmed my Harmony One.
post #10626 of 16457
Hi guys.. I run an Anthem avm40 with arc and today I brought home an Anthem MRX300. Would I have to re install ARC on my only laptop again for the AVR? Will this mess things up on my avm40 ARC program?
post #10627 of 16457
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Originally Posted by dbox1080p View Post

Hi guys.. I run an Anthem avm40 with arc and today I brought home an Anthem MRX300. Would I have to re install ARC on my only laptop again for the AVR? Will this mess things up on my avm40 ARC program?

No. See reply in the the statement thread.
post #10628 of 16457
Does anyone use an MRX receiver with B&W 800 series speakers? I want to sell my Rotel 1098 processor and was thinking of buying a MRX 300 and using as a pre/pro. Even better would be to get rid of all my amps however this seems like it probably would not be a good idea acoustically.
post #10629 of 16457
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Originally Posted by mpauline View Post

Does anyone use an MRX receiver with B&W 800 series speakers? I want to sell my Rotel 1098 processor and was thinking of buying a MRX 300 and using as a pre/pro. Even better would be to get rid of all my amps however this seems like it probably would not be a good idea acoustically.

There is no reason why these speakers wouldn't
work with this receiver. ARC doesn't care what speakers you have it just helps with whatever freq. response they put out.
John
post #10630 of 16457
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Originally Posted by jayray View Post

There is no reason why these speakers wouldn't
work with this receiver. ARC doesn't care what speakers you have it just helps with whatever freq. response they put out.
John

Thanks Jayray. I currently use Rotel amps and would like to significantly downsize because I am moving into a much smaller home. My only concerns with using the internal amps on the Anthem was that I would cause damage to my speakers because of clipping. Any thoughts? I am using B&W 803 Diamonds.
post #10631 of 16457
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Originally Posted by mpauline View Post


Thanks Jayray. I currently use Rotel amps and would like to significantly downsize because I am moving into a much smaller home. My only concerns with using the internal amps on the Anthem was that I would cause damage to my speakers because of clipping. Any thoughts? I am using B&W 803 Diamonds.

If they are 8ohm there should be no problem running with the 300 especially if you are going to a smaller room. Try without any ext. amp and see.
John
post #10632 of 16457
Quote:
Originally Posted by mpauline View Post

Does anyone use an MRX receiver with B&W 800 series speakers? I want to sell my Rotel 1098 processor and was thinking of buying a MRX 300 and using as a pre/pro. Even better would be to get rid of all my amps however this seems like it probably would not be a good idea acoustically.

I have an MRX-300 driving B&W Matrix 804's and Matrix HTM center channel and have been pleasantly surprised by the results. It's probably the best I've ever heard these speakers perform and I've owned them since '98.

Of course, I have a small room, ~1350 cu feet, and don't typically listen to music and movies at ear-splitting volume levels. I don't think the MRX has any issues driving my speakers to the volume levels I require, i.e. no clipping, etc.

That being said, my long term plan is still to add an external amp, not because of any inadequacy of the MRX-300, but rather so that i can power the MRX-300 from my PS Audio Power Plant Premier without having to worry about overtaxing it's capabilities.

But, as good as things sound now, I have no sense of urgency to add the external amp.

Dan
post #10633 of 16457
Hey guys,

I just finished my new theater room (19x14, 133" screen, two rows of seats) and am in the process of testing out the sound after running PBK and ARC. Just wanted to shoot a few questions out there and see what the general concensus is. My setup is Paradigm Monitor 11's, Center 3, Axiom Audio QS8 surrounds, and Paradigm Sub 25. My receiver is an MRX-700.


1) In my old room I only had one row of three seats so my 9 measurement positions were in a very concentrated area, allowing for both side seats to be within the sweet spot I created around my middle seat (main listening position). In this room, however, I now have two rows of seats (the second row is on a 12" riser platform) and no dedicated main listening position as I will be sitting in both the front middle and back middle seat depending on the movie genre, video game, TV show, etc I am watching. Because of this I am trying to create as big of a sweet spot as I can so all seats, both front and back, sound equally the same.

To do this I took a measurement at each seat in the front row, each seat in the back row, and in-between each front and back row seat, so 9 in total (front row, in-between front and back row, and back row). I also made the spot in-between the front row and back row my starting position as to create as non-biased a result (in terms of sound levels, etc) as possible for one particular seat. I also measured so that each speaker distance value is at the this middle point between the front and back row.

Does this sound like an appropriate strategy to try and create as big of a sweet spot encompassing the front and back row together as much as possible?


2) Is there any harm in bumping up any of the speaker trim levels post-ARC? Because I am trying to get the most even response among all seats, I am finding that the surround speakers are 2-3dB too low when sitting in the front row. Will any of the calculations/corrections be affected if I bump up the surround speaker levels a little bit?


Also, attached are my new graphs, both PBK and ARC.
The trim levels are:
Front Left +1
Center 0
Front Right +1
Surround Right 0
Surround Left +1
Subwoofer -4


Thanks guys!
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post #10634 of 16457
Just ran ARC on my MRX 500 after owning it for six months and not taking the time to do so.

Mains - BW DM 607-03
Center - BW LCR 600-S3
Sub - BW ASW 650

Surrounds are all Polk Audio RTi-a1.

- any comments are welcomed.
- does running arc also reset any adjustments I may have made to the Level Calibration of the speakers prior to this?
LL
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LL
post #10635 of 16457
Quote:
Originally Posted by mpauline View Post

Does anyone use an MRX receiver with B&W 800 series speakers? I want to sell my Rotel 1098 processor and was thinking of buying a MRX 300 and using as a pre/pro. Even better would be to get rid of all my amps however this seems like it probably would not be a good idea acoustically.

I have MRX 700 with B&W 805s as my L/R, and HTM4s as center (using ASW 825 subwoofer to complete the front, all bi-wired with double runs of Audioquest Type 4). Since I bought the front speakers when they were discontinued (dealer demo), I could not get another pair for the SL/SR. Instead, I took a pair of B&W CM1 (trade in). I thought to use them as a temporary solution, but since I run ARC they sound so even and close to the front (and complement the front so well) that I doubt I will ever replace them. They work well and use less space flanking the sofa than a pair of 805s would. I am still scanning the used market for another pair of natural cherry B&W 805s out of habit, but with diminishing vigor .

The sound of MRX + B&Ws is awesome - solidity, huge dynamics, natural quality that feels unvarnished but not harsh or ruthless. It is hard to explain - sometimes I miss some warmth in the midrange but then another song comes and I realize that the coldness was in the song, not in the equipment. To me, this combination of MRX, ARC and B&W system is like water - not sweet, not bitter, absolutely no taste - all the warmth or color must come from the recording. If it is not in the recording, the system will not add it, and I am appreciating it more every day. As I said, I also appreciate how dynamic the system is - it has the rawness that makes me hunt for Dolby Volume late at night. Recently I watched Money Ball and when Brad Pitt through the chair into the hallway, it sounded so true to life that I flinched.

Another characteristic that is probably due to ARC is the even feel of the sound - no frequency feels out of place, bass lines feel ballanced, cymbals have raw brass feel, not plastic confusing white noise, bass drum has the kick but also the harmonic feel of the tight skin being hit. Piano has body, but also woody quality, acoustic guitars have both fret noise and body resonance, electric guitars have all the complex distorsion harminics, flutes have metalic body but also breath on top. I can visualize coils of the snar drum. On good recordings, I can hear which area of the cymbal is being hit - more to the middle or to the edges. From my sofa, I feel as if MRX + B&Ws are a reference studio system giving me a clear window into the recording where I focus on the music and not on the equipment.

Note that I am sitting 9' from the front speakers. A larger distance or ear splitting levels may require more power than MRX 700 can deliver. I have not come close to testing the limits of MRX but YMMV. Kal Rubinson from Stereophile had excellent results driving a Bryston 9B SST with MRX. That was my dream too but frankly I see little reason to complicate my life that way (at least in my room). It makes me feel warm and fuzzy that I can always do it down the road. If I had a dedicated home theater, I may have done it but for the living room I don't see a reason.
post #10636 of 16457
Thanks dglozic. That was a great endorsement of the Anthem MRX line. I am going to take the plunge and buy one as I sold my Rotel 1098 this afternoon.

Mark
post #10637 of 16457
Also taking the plunge - just sold ny pioneer lx81 - receiving a new mrx 300 tomorrow, and I'm excited to see what it can do for my aktive genelec 8040's fronts and Svs-sub
post #10638 of 16457
Svendsen and Mark congrats...!
Please post your experiences...!
post #10639 of 16457
All, who is using the Anthem receiver with Rocket 850's front left/right and RSC200 center.
How do they sound? The reason I ask is that I have heard a few people mention some added brightness to their audio due to the Anthem.
I currently have a Denon 3805 with an outlaw 200X7 amp. My room is a treated dedicated home theater. I believe that the Rocket speakers are inherently on the bright side with my existing set-up. Not anywhere near Klipsch brighness, but a little more bright than say Paradign Studios. So I admit I am a bit concerned with these claims.
I have been looking at a few options below but have not closed the book on other options.
Denon 4311. (I have a Denon 3805 that I feel sounds good, I'm just ready to upgrade.)
Anthem MRX-300 (I'm very interested, Just have not heard it with Rockets)
Emotiva UMC-1 (I've actually heard the UMC-1 paired with a friends Rocket 850's and they do sound good)
post #10640 of 16457
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Originally Posted by suffolk112000 View Post

All, who is using the Anthem receiver with Rocket 850's front left/right and RSC200 center.
How do they sound? The reason I ask is that I have heard a few people mention some added brightness to their audio due to the Anthem.
I currently have a Denon 3805 with an outlaw 200X7 amp. My room is a treated dedicated home theater. I believe that the Rocket speakers are inherently on the bright side with my existing set-up. Not anywhere near Klipsch brighness, but a little more bright than say Paradign Studios. So I admit I am a bit concerned with these claims.
I have been looking at a few options below but have not closed the book on other options.
Denon 4311. (I have a Denon 3805 that I feel sounds good, I'm just ready to upgrade.)
Anthem MRX-300 (I'm very interested, Just have not heard it with Rockets)
Emotiva UMC-1 (I've actually heard the UMC-1 paired with a friends Rocket 850's and they do sound good)

Do you plan to keep your Outlaw power amp? If so, your resulting sound will be a combination of MRX 300 used as a pre-amp and Outlaw power amp, and I doubt you will hear a huge difference from that angle alone. Where you can expect changes is when you run ARC and it corrects for the room, and to the lesser degree, your speakers in the room. If the brightness of Rockets come above 5kHz, ARC will not be able to help, but if it is really upper midrange that is bothering you, you may see improvements. Note that you can also help your speakers by looking at your room and adding soft, absorptive materials (carpet, upholstered furniture, curtains etc.). Just be careful not to 'deaden' the room too much - a combination of absorptive and diffusive materials and objects works best.
post #10641 of 16457
Picked up the MRX 300. I was surprised that immediately I noticed less harsh treble coming from my center channel. I thought that my previous set up was really good however the sound now is more neutral and the treble is toned down. I just ran the ARC so now will see how it sounds and update my post.
post #10642 of 16457
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Originally Posted by mpauline View Post

Picked up the MRX 300. I was surprised that immediately I noticed less harsh treble coming from my center channel. I thought that my previous set up was really good however the sound now is more neutral and the treble is toned down. I just ran the ARC so now will see how it sounds and update my post.

Congrats ......what were you running before?
post #10643 of 16457
Any input from the usuals (Tigger or jayray) on my newest room, setup, graphs, and questions?

Thanks
post #10644 of 16457
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigCoolJesus View Post

Hey guys,

I just finished my new theater room (19x14, 133" screen, two rows of seats) and am in the process of testing out the sound after running PBK and ARC. Just wanted to shoot a few questions out there and see what the general concensus is. My setup is Paradigm Monitor 11's, Center 3, Axiom Audio QS8 surrounds, and Paradigm Sub 25. My receiver is an MRX-700.

1) In my old room I only had one row of three seats so my 9 measurement positions were in a very concentrated area, allowing for both side seats to be within the sweet spot I created around my middle seat (main listening position). In this room, however, I now have two rows of seats (the second row is on a 12" riser platform) and no dedicated main listening position as I will be sitting in both the front middle and back middle seat depending on the movie genre, video game, TV show, etc I am watching. Because of this I am trying to create as big of a sweet spot as I can so all seats, both front and back, sound equally the same.

To do this I took a measurement at each seat in the front row, each seat in the back row, and in-between each front and back row seat, so 9 in total (front row, in-between front and back row, and back row). I also made the spot in-between the front row and back row my starting position as to create as non-biased a result (in terms of sound levels, etc) as possible for one particular seat. I also measured so that each speaker distance value is at the this middle point between the front and back row.

Does this sound like an appropriate strategy to try and create as big of a sweet spot encompassing the front and back row together as much as possible?

2) Is there any harm in bumping up any of the speaker trim levels post-ARC? Because I am trying to get the most even response among all seats, I am finding that the surround speakers are 2-3dB too low when sitting in the front row. Will any of the calculations/corrections be affected if I bump up the surround speaker levels a little bit?

Also, attached are my new graphs, both PBK and ARC.
The trim levels are:
Front Left +1
Center 0
Front Right +1
Surround Right 0
Surround Left +1
Subwoofer -4

Thanks guys!

Your charts look very good. You have a large boundary gain on your front speakers which ARC corrected. If you want to you can move them out from the corner and using quick measure, and find a spot where that large hump comes down. Your sub looks excellent so you're ready to enjoy the sound. I have 2 rows and I use 5 mic positions, 3 front and 2 back. I usually watch movies alone so the sweet spot is most important. People in the back row usually comment how good it sounds so that's good enough for me. As for playing with trim levels, I don't touch anything, I trust ARC
John
post #10645 of 16457
Anyone experiencing bugs on the new firmware (v50.23) for the MRX700?

The MRX remote (big remote) - the ON button does not turn on the receiver after the receiver is off overnight or a few hours (i.e. 4+ hrs. The red light on the remote is blinking when I press the ON button). In order to turn on the receiver, I have push the Main Zone power button on the receiver itself.

Once I perform this, the remote is functioning again (able to turn on and off, switching inputs, volume, etc).

I've just got my MRX700 last week and upgraded my firmware to v50.23 and ran ARC calibration, etc. The receiver sounds great..however this remote bug is driving me NUTS!

Anyone has issues on the new firmware...or should i revert back to firmware v50.19 (please share the link where I can get firmware v50.19)? Any suggestions are welcomed!

Thanks.
PC
post #10646 of 16457
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Originally Posted by jayray View Post


Your charts look very good. You have a large boundary gain on your front speakers which ARC corrected. If you want to you can move them out from the corner and using quick measure, and find a spot where that large hump comes down. Your sub looks excellent so you're ready to enjoy the sound. I have 2 rows and I use 5 mic positions, 3 front and 2 back. I usually watch movies alone so the sweet spot is most important. People in the back row usually comment how good it sounds so that's good enough for me. As for playing with trim levels, I don't touch anything, I trust ARC
John

Is there any harm to taking too many measurement positions? Is it easier for ARC to make corrections based on less measurements?

I'm just wondering if taking 3 in the front row and 3 in the back row would be better than taking 3 front row, three between front-back row, and 3 in the back row because ARC would have less information to process/calculate.

What do you think?
post #10647 of 16457
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Originally Posted by sharp10 View Post

Congrats ......what were you running before?

I previously had a Rotel 1098 processor which in Canada was a $3K plus unit. I really liked the sound of the Rotel it but it was getting older and I am moving so trying to go minimal on my equipment.
post #10648 of 16457
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Originally Posted by BigCoolJesus View Post


Is there any harm to taking too many measurement positions? Is it easier for ARC to make corrections based on less measurements?

I'm just wondering if taking 3 in the front row and 3 in the back row would be better than taking 3 front row, three between front-back row, and 3 in the back row because ARC would have less information to process/calculate.

What do you think?

3+3 should be sufficient. ARC just averages so the more you do the more the sweet spot is less accurate so 5 or 6 should cover the seating without averaging the sweet spot too much. Hope that makes sense.
John
post #10649 of 16457
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Originally Posted by jayray View Post


3+3 should be sufficient. ARC just averages so the more you do the more the sweet spot is less accurate so 5 or 6 should cover the seating without averaging the sweet spot too much. Hope that makes sense.
John

Makes a lot of sense. Will do a new run tomorrow morning.

One last question: since I will be sitting in both the back middle seat and front middle seat depending on what I am watching/my mood, where should I take the first measurement at? The front middle seat or back middle seat?

Thanks!
post #10650 of 16457
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Originally Posted by BigCoolJesus View Post


Makes a lot of sense. Will do a new run tomorrow morning.

One last question: since I will be sitting in both the back middle seat and front middle seat depending on what I am watching/my mood, where should I take the first measurement at? The front middle seat or back middle seat?

Thanks!

You can do 1st behind the front centre, two on either side of front centre and then 2 from back seats far right and left. This should give good front and back centre. I recall your sub is a sub 25, it should be tight as a drum based on your chart. Try some heavy LFE material and let us know how it does.
John
John
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