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post #11341 of 14608
7/3/12 at 9:38pm
If I do an update to 50.24, do I have to re-run ARC?
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post #11342 of 14608
7/3/12 at 9:50pm
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Originally Posted by BigCoolJesus View Post

If I do an update to 50.24, do I have to re-run ARC?

No need to remeasure or re upload.
John
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post #11343 of 14608
7/3/12 at 9:57pm
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Originally Posted by jayray View Post

I think they also fixed the 192/24 issue as well as the ARC problem so it is now 50.24.
John

+1

And it is still beta. But if all goes well, there is a good chance the production release will be 50.24.
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post #11344 of 14608
7/4/12 at 4:23am
yea my folder is called 50.24, but it doesn't say beta in any of the folders. Im going to upload it tonight and see if i can hear any changes,
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post #11345 of 14608
7/4/12 at 4:37am
The "new" Firmware package v50.24 incorporates the updated DSP2 v50.04 that gets you full ARC to all channels. It also includes MCU firmware v50.24, which may be the 192/24 fix - it may or may not contain other, unspecified fixes/improvements.
I got a copy yesterday, and will install when I get time.

Regards, Mike.
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post #11346 of 14608
7/4/12 at 5:12am
Thanks.

So the corrections for the Surrounds and Subwoofer that were calculated when I ran ARC with 50.23 are valid and correct......the bug in the firmware was just preventing the calculations from being applied during real-time use I take it?
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post #11347 of 14608
7/4/12 at 7:23am
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Originally Posted by BigCoolJesus View Post

Thanks.
So the corrections for the Surrounds and Subwoofer that were calculated when I ran ARC with 50.23 are valid and correct......the bug in the firmware was just preventing the calculations from being applied during real-time use I take it?

That is correct. The ARC software on your computer correctly calculated the corrections and correctly uploaded them to the MRX. Once you upload the new corrected firmware (DSP2 v50.04) your origional ARC measurments and corrections will be applied as intended.
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post #11348 of 14608
7/4/12 at 7:37am
Lastly, I noticed that with the 50.24 firmware download it includes an auto installer and a manual installer that allows for the user to choose whether to update the whole system or just individual updates like the MCU, DSP, etc.

Is it best to just use the auto installer or should I do manual and choose to update the DSP2 to 50.04 only and leave all other updates unchecked?
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post #11349 of 14608
7/4/12 at 9:38am
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Originally Posted by BigCoolJesus View Post

Lastly, I noticed that with the 50.24 firmware download it includes an auto installer and a manual installer that allows for the user to choose whether to update the whole system or just individual updates like the MCU, DSP, etc.
Is it best to just use the auto installer or should I do manual and choose to update the DSP2 to 50.04 only and leave all other updates unchecked?

Use the auto. You want the fix for 192/24.
John
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post #11350 of 14608
7/4/12 at 10:03am
Finally have everything running. New try at ARC. Looks pretty good, except for the sub has a bloom past the cut-off.

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post #11351 of 14608
7/4/12 at 10:27am
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Originally Posted by JMCecil View Post

Finally have everything running. New try at ARC. Looks pretty good, except for the sub has a bloom past the cut-off.
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The bloom is 40dB below the main signal - I don't think you will have any practical issues with it.

Your charts look good. It looks like you have very capable L/R speakers. If you want to listen to music in stereo only, it would make sense to untie Music and Movie mode and set L/R speakers to full range and move the cutoff to 'Flat' or 30Hz and not use subwoofer at all. You can configure video, blu-ray, TV etc. inputs to Movie mode, of course.
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post #11352 of 14608
7/4/12 at 10:34am
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Originally Posted by JMCecil View Post

Finally have everything running. New try at ARC. Looks pretty good, except for the sub has a bloom past the cut-off.
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Try moving the sub. You are down 10 dB at 100Hz. If you can bring the measured curve up, you will get more kick drum punch. Worth the try.
John
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post #11353 of 14608
7/4/12 at 10:53am
I don't see the new firmware on their site?
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post #11354 of 14608
7/4/12 at 11:40am
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Originally Posted by jayray View Post

Try moving the sub. You are down 10 dB at 100Hz. If you can bring the measured curve up, you will get more kick drum punch. Worth the try.
John
Isn't it down 10 at 100 because the crossover is set to 60? The mains should be doing fine to make that up right? Heck in my old dedicated cross-over setup, I had the sub at 35 because the mains kick pretty good.
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post #11355 of 14608
7/4/12 at 11:51am
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Originally Posted by JMCecil View Post

Isn't it down 10 at 100 because the crossover is set to 60? The mains should be doing fine to make that up right? Heck in my old dedicated cross-over setup, I had the sub at 35 because the mains kick pretty good.

Did ARC set the crossover? What is the cutoff set by ARC in the Targets window? The measured curve is what needs to change. Get it up and ARC will likely set the cutoff o around 120Hz. If you look at my curve posted in the FAQ at the bottom of the page you will see hat I'm talking about. With that measured curve I have a 120Hz cutoff and a 60Hz crossover. My mains can handle bass quite well but my sub does a better job and the LFE after I did this was fantastic.
John
Edited by jayray - 7/4/12 at 12:02pm
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post #11356 of 14608
7/4/12 at 12:02pm
ARC set fronts to 60, sub to 80 and surrounds to 100.
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post #11357 of 14608
7/4/12 at 12:44pm
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Originally Posted by JMCecil View Post

ARC set fronts to 60, sub to 80 and surrounds to 100.

It set the sub to 80 because the measured curve is down 10 dB. Raise the curve and it will set the crossover in ARC's Targets window to a higher value which would work better.
John
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post #11358 of 14608
7/4/12 at 1:52pm
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Originally Posted by BigCoolJesus View Post

Hey guys,
When I first got my MRX700 I immediately updated to 50.23 and ARC'ed my room. Had no auditory complaints after dialing everything in. But now after reading the few of you who noticed improvement going from .23 to .24, I am wondering if there is better sound possible despite me not having any complaints at the moment.
What is the specific ARC problem that 50.24 is correcting? Just wondering if it's worth worrying about or if I'm good since I have no complaints.
Thanks!

With firmware 50.23, 192/24 files would not play correctly with ARC enabled.
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post #11359 of 14608
7/4/12 at 1:53pm
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Originally Posted by Robin howarth View Post

I don't see the new firmware on their site?

I believe the latest firmware is beta 50.24. You'll probably have to email Anthem to get it.
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post #11360 of 14608
7/4/12 at 3:20pm
Just got done updating to 50.24

I am fortunate in that I have a Sub 25 PBK'ed to my room, so I wasn't expecting much of a difference if I had the 50.23 glitch of the sub and surrounds not using the calculated ARC corrections.

Well, using the familiar scene of "The Grid" in Tron Legacy I noticed a small difference in bass: it was more controlled and tighter. Again, PBK already had my sub 90% corrected so ARC wasn't handling much correction but just enough that I noticed the new firmware difference.

For the surrounds, however, I haven't noticed a difference yet, though the scene in Tron Legacy I used isn't the best for such a judgement. Will definitely listen to something like Master and Commander or Saving Private Ryan to see what I hear. It should be noted that for the last few weeks I have had a feeling of my surrounds lacking compared to the rest of the system during all four of the Pirates of the Caribbean movies. Maybe it was the 50.23 glitch. Hopefully it was and is fixed now.
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post #11361 of 14608
7/4/12 at 3:34pm
Anyone has tried MRX RCA preouts connecting to external amp XLR balanced ins? Maybe using an adaptor or some sorts.

Interested in the performance in this configuration as opposed to all balanced inouts.
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post #11362 of 14608
7/4/12 at 7:12pm
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Originally Posted by BigCoolJesus View Post

Just got done updating to 50.24
I am fortunate in that I have a Sub 25 PBK'ed to my room, so I wasn't expecting much of a difference if I had the 50.23 glitch of the sub and surrounds not using the calculated ARC corrections.
Well, using the familiar scene of "The Grid" in Tron Legacy I noticed a small difference in bass: it was more controlled and tighter. Again, PBK already had my sub 90% corrected so ARC wasn't handling much correction but just enough that I noticed the new firmware difference.
For the surrounds, however, I haven't noticed a difference yet, though the scene in Tron Legacy I used isn't the best for such a judgement. Will definitely listen to something like Master and Commander or Saving Private Ryan to see what I hear. It should be noted that for the last few weeks I have had a feeling of my surrounds lacking compared to the rest of the system during all four of the Pirates of the Caribbean movies. Maybe it was the 50.23 glitch. Hopefully it was and is fixed now.

Can you post your sub chart? I have a sub 25 and would like to see how someone else's Sub 25 performs with PBK and ARC.
John
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post #11363 of 14608
7/4/12 at 8:08pm
It actually is posted, about a month ago.....let me search and link to it (as I posted a few results so I'll make sure to link to what I finally landed on)
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post #11364 of 14608
7/4/12 at 8:10pm
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Originally Posted by BigCoolJesus View Post

Here's my new graphs for PBK and ARC using just the six measurement spots, with the first measurement being taken at the front row middle seat. This is also the seat I have my speaker distances set to.


Trim levels are:

Front Left +1

Center 0

Front Right +1

Surround Right 0

Surround Left 0

Subwoofer -6


Note: There is nothing I can do about the boundary gain of the front speakers....they are as far out from the side walls and front corners as possible. These areas are also heavily treated with bass traps. But it seems like ARC did a fine job of taming the gain anyways




I put on the Pod Emergence scene from WotW and holy crap!!!! It was like nothing I have ever heard even in my old room with the same speakers/subwoofer. I watched the scene from both the front row middle seat and back row middle seat and it sounded nearly identical.....almost no variance between the two spots. Just awesome!

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This should be the final PBK/ARC I settled on
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post #11365 of 14608
7/4/12 at 9:06pm
Yes, I have. Although the final result isn't balanced.

You may need to fiddle with the attenuators on the amp to get the best gain staging.
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post #11366 of 14608
7/4/12 at 10:02pm
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Originally Posted by BigCoolJesus View Post

This should be the final PBK/ARC I settled on

The sub looks very good. I bet it sounds excellent.
John
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post #11367 of 14608
7/5/12 at 4:48am
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Originally Posted by BigCoolJesus View Post

Just got done updating to 50.24
I am fortunate in that I have a Sub 25 PBK'ed to my room, so I wasn't expecting much of a difference if I had the 50.23 glitch of the sub and surrounds not using the calculated ARC corrections.
Well, using the familiar scene of "The Grid" in Tron Legacy I noticed a small difference in bass: it was more controlled and tighter. Again, PBK already had my sub 90% corrected so ARC wasn't handling much correction but just enough that I noticed the new firmware difference.
For the surrounds, however, I haven't noticed a difference yet, though the scene in Tron Legacy I used isn't the best for such a judgement. Will definitely listen to something like Master and Commander or Saving Private Ryan to see what I hear. It should be noted that for the last few weeks I have had a feeling of my surrounds lacking compared to the rest of the system during all four of the Pirates of the Caribbean movies. Maybe it was the 50.23 glitch. Hopefully it was and is fixed now.

Your experience illustrates why some people didn't notice the glitch - it all depends on the amount of correction needed for the sub and the surrounds. Since your PBK did most of the job, you didn't need ARC for the sub as much as other people.
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post #11368 of 14608
7/5/12 at 6:02am
It's also about not knowing what you are missing.

I started on 50.23, so I was only getting correction on the mains. On the advice of others here, I was able to reposition my subwoofer. Then I got the beta firmware, so my sub is now being corrected.

On each step, there was a noticeable improvement. However after each step, I thought I was already at the best I was going to get.
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post #11369 of 14608
7/5/12 at 10:26am
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Originally Posted by Chris Isble View Post

It's also about not knowing what you are missing.
I started on 50.23, so I was only getting correction on the mains. On the advice of others here, I was able to reposition my subwoofer. Then I got the beta firmware, so my sub is now being corrected.
On each step, there was a noticeable improvement. However after each step, I thought I was already at the best I was going to get.

This happened to me at each upgrade through the years. Look at all the the people on the threads with entry level equipment who claim their system sounds amazing. You can't blame them since they haven't, in most cases, heard something better.
John
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post #11370 of 14608
7/5/12 at 12:52pm
I was using Anthem receiver with only blu-ray player. Recently, I added Dish Joey device. Basically, this connects to Dish hopper to show DVR and TV programming. When I switch inputs, some times Anthem is getting freeze when I choose dish input. I have to pull out power connection for Anthem to respond again.

It could be problem with Dish Joey as well, since it says it is trying to connect hopper. I am going to contact Dish to find why it is loosing connection to Hopper. Still, Anthem should not be freezing.

Does anybody aware of this problem? It is inconvenient to go back of rack and disconnect power and connect it again. Is there any other way to reboot the device?
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