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post #12211 of 14714
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Originally Posted by ninja12 View Post

Setting the sub to Flat gives you a little more oomph with the low frequencies because ARC doesn't roll off the low frequencies when the setting is Flat. ARC passes all of the low frequencies to your sub for your sub to handle. However, you should only set your sub to Flat if your sub has built-protection, which means it will not try to play frequencies that it's not capable of playing, and your sub plays with good volume down to 20 Hz. If your sub is not capable of those two requirements, then leave it set to Auto. With Auto, ARC will determine the low end capability of your sub and roll off the low frequencies to make sure that your sub doesn't try to play them.

May change the setting to "Flat" today and re-upload. Based on your experience, would it possibly make sense to do this for only the Movie config or do you think Music will benefit? My uneducated "gut" tells me that I'd lose some tightness in the music if I set that to flat.

Thoughts?
post #12212 of 14714
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Originally Posted by scirica View Post

May change the setting to "Flat" today and re-upload. Based on your experience, would it possibly make sense to do this for only the Movie config or do you think Music will benefit? My uneducated "gut" tells me that I'd lose some tightness in the music if I set that to flat.
Thoughts?
Well, the quick and honest answer is, you will have to change it to Flat for music and listen to it. Normally, music doesn't have the very low frequencies, like 20 Hz and below, like some movies do. So, you may not get a benefit to setting music to Flat; however, I don't think it will hurt anything if you did. But, like I said, you will have to be the judge of that by trying it and letting your ears tell you if you hear a benefit.
post #12213 of 14714
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Originally Posted by vkowalski1970 View Post

I wouldnt but thats just me, what speakers are you running?

right now i'm running kef IQ9 towers and a IQ60 center up front. those are now on sale and i'm getting ready to setup my paradigms again. they would be the studio 100v3's and a cc570v3

acer......that was my gut feeling. the anthem sounding and performing better. like i had mentioned before i went through a ton of stuff before settling on the anthem pre/pro and finally being happy with the soundstage and performance
post #12214 of 14714
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Originally Posted by ninja12 View Post

Well, the quick and honest answer is, you will have to change it to Flat for music and listen to it. Normally, music doesn't have the very low frequencies, like 20 Hz and below, like some movies do. So, you may not get a benefit to setting music to Flat; however, I don't think it will hurt anything if you did. But, like I said, you will have to be the judge of that by trying it and letting your ears tell you if you hear a benefit.

I'll set both to flat this afternoon. I'll listen to the 5.1 version of Brothers In Arms and check out the difference.
post #12215 of 14714
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Originally Posted by scirica View Post

I'll set both to flat this afternoon. I'll listen to the 5.1 version of Brothers In Arms and check out the difference.

Music in movies and the end credits sound excellent so if you like that sound it will work with other musical sources. Your sub will still be tight at the usual freq. that your music requires.
John
post #12216 of 14714
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Originally Posted by spikerdawg View Post

Hi everyone. I hope to get a response from John or Nick. I am currently using Anthem MRX 700, Paradigm Studio series 100,'s mains, cc690, ADP590 surrounds, studio sub 12 and monitor sub 12, all new 6 months ago. Sony 790 bluray and Epson 6010 projector and I love it all. The sound and video is unreal. Everybody who has heard it say's it's the best sound they have ever heard. But .....I have become addicted to Anthem/ Paradigm. (I'm embarrassed to admit this now, but I've been listening to a Bose system for the last 10 years, thank gawd it died and I had to go hear something else.) Any way, I have the chance to buy a used Statement D2 and P5. I'm told they are 5 years old and been babyed. I'm thinking of selling the MRX 700 . My question's are, what are the major differences between the D2 and the D2v. Also can I still purchase ARC for the D2, as he said they were sold separetly back then and he didn't buy it. As for the P5, does it really use 3600 watts of power just to turn it on, or is that the requirement, if I choose to blow out my ear drums. And if you were in my shoe's would you do it? Thanking you all in advance for any comment's or advice Dave.

I had D2v and P5 with Sig series from Paradigm. Then due to some situations I sold my D2v , P5, S8 v3, C5v3, and ADP3 v3 and down graded to MRX 700, S6 v3, C3 v3 and ADP3 v1. It might sound crazy but in my situation I get a better sound quality than my previous top of the line equipments. It is possible that my previous equipment was overkilled for my room and I was not fully using them or might have been other reasons. But I hear things with my MRX I didn't hear before and the sound is so good that I enjoy every moment of it.
post #12217 of 14714
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Originally Posted by jayray View Post

Music in movies and the end credits sound excellent so if you like that sound it will work with other musical sources. Your sub will still be tight at the usual freq. that your music requires.
John

Initial reaction after changing both to "Flat" = biggrin.gif
post #12218 of 14714
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Originally Posted by scirica View Post

Initial reaction after changing both to "Flat" = biggrin.gif

Excellent, now go play with it, War of the worlds Pod emerging sequence is a Flat delight;)
John
post #12219 of 14714
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Originally Posted by scirica View Post

May change the setting to "Flat" today and re-upload. Based on your experience, would it possibly make sense to do this for only the Movie config or do you think Music will benefit? My uneducated "gut" tells me that I'd lose some tightness in the music if I set that to flat.
Thoughts?

As John said below, you should not experience any loss of tightness. Most music will likely not take advantage of the low end... unless you like some good Organ Music and the like...

I'm pretty sure that any of us that set the low end to flat do it for both profiles.

The only time maybe it could be an issue on music would be if you have a source that produces a non-musical low frequency... take for example some kind of turntable rumble or maybe something from a bad recording where the recording includes low frequencies not intended by the recording studio to be recorded but that they were not aware existed in the recordings due to inadequate Recording/Sound equipment in the studio where the album was mastered. (This of course becomes a problem for the recording... not the MRX. The MRX is simply reproducing what is in the recording. However, if you have a high pass filter in place that eliminates the low end frequencies, as is done when the sub is not set to flat... it would of course attenuates those low end frequencies instead of playing them at full volume level and hence perhaps improving the listening experience of those specifically bad recordings.)

Again, all of us (or most all) enable it for both profiles, if we intend to enable it. smile.gif
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Originally Posted by ninja12 View Post

Well, the quick and honest answer is, you will have to change it to Flat for music and listen to it. Normally, music doesn't have the very low frequencies, like 20 Hz and below, like some movies do. So, you may not get a benefit to setting music to Flat; however, I don't think it will hurt anything if you did. But, like I said, you will have to be the judge of that by trying it and letting your ears tell you if you hear a benefit.

+1
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Originally Posted by jayray View Post

Music in movies and the end credits sound excellent so if you like that sound it will work with other musical sources. Your sub will still be tight at the usual freq. that your music requires.
John

+1
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Originally Posted by scirica View Post

Initial reaction after changing both to "Flat" = biggrin.gif

+biggrin.gif
post #12220 of 14714
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Originally Posted by jayray View Post

Excellent, now go play with it, War of the worlds Pod emerging sequence is a Flat delight;)
John

Don't have that one in my library...may need to find a copy smile.gif
post #12221 of 14714
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Originally Posted by acer View Post

I previously had a SC-07 and I much prefer the Anthem to it. I know there is a group of folk who think all receivers sound the same, but I just don't believe that. The best way I can describe it is that the Anthem sounds like I think a receiver should sound. When I had the Elite, although I thought it sounded good(my first hdmi receiver), I started to feel as though something was missing in the sound. I think the Anthem just sounds great, and I finally feel like I don't need to keep trying to upgrade equipment to make my HT sound better.

couldnt agree more!
post #12222 of 14714
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Originally Posted by vkowalski1970 View Post

couldnt agree more!

Anthem Owners Mutual Support Society. I come here every day to feel good about my Anthem MRX-500!
post #12223 of 14714
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Originally Posted by scirica View Post

Anthem Owners Mutual Support Society. I come here every day to feel good about my Anthem MRX-500!

I listen to mine to feel good:D
John
post #12224 of 14714
A simple question ( I think)

If the listener positions are the same for both music and movies, and I use Anthem Music for all music inputs, and use the sub for music, is there any reason to separately measure for Movies and Music?

Thanks in advance.
post #12225 of 14714
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Originally Posted by dacaesar View Post

A simple question ( I think)
If the listener positions are the same for both music and movies, and I use Anthem Music for all music inputs, and use the sub for music, is there any reason to separately measure for Movies and Music?
Thanks in advance.

No. Use the movie profile and Anthem music will use the appropriate speakers.
John
post #12226 of 14714
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Originally Posted by jayray View Post

No. Use the movie profile and Anthem music will use the appropriate speakers.
John

Thanks, that' what I thought. I used to measure separately for both, but realized I was probably wasting my time. This confirms my suspicion.
post #12227 of 14714
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Originally Posted by dacaesar View Post

Thanks, that' what I thought. I used to measure separately for both, but realized I was probably wasting my time. This confirms my suspicion.

Only for people who love taking measurements;)
John
post #12228 of 14714
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Originally Posted by scirica View Post

Anthem Owners Mutual Support Society. I come here every day to feel good about my Anthem MRX-500!

I listen to the Arcam AVR400 I had to buy, because I've been waiting almost three months for an Anthem MRX700 replacement for the unit sitting on the floor. (My dealer is waiting for 2 more. No one has an answer.)

The Anthem MRX700, sitting on the floor, reminds me that no matter how many positive posts there are on a forum, you can still get completely left hanging by your dealer AND the manufacturer. It also reminds me that people who have negative experiences should be NOT be abused or marginalized because they MIGHT have important feedback to share.

The Arcam AVR400, that is sitting in the rack, reminds me that you shouldn't always believe what everyone (literally EVERYONE) tells you about a product line. Sometimes you need to try it, because the Arcam AVR400 runs just fine and sounds fantastic (without ANY room correction used, by the way).
Edited by dean-l - 9/11/12 at 7:12pm
post #12229 of 14714
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Originally Posted by dean-l View Post

I listen to the Arcam AVR400 I had to buy, because I've been waiting almost three months for an Anthem MRX700 replacement for the unit sitting on the floor. (My dealer is waiting for 2 more. No one has an answer.)
The Anthem MRX700, sitting on the floor, reminds me that no matter how many positive posts there are on a forum, you can still get completely left hanging by your dealer AND the manufacturer. It also reminds me that people who have negative experiences should be NOT be abused or marginalized because they MIGHT have important feedback to share.
The Arcam AVR400, that is sitting in the rack, reminds me that you shouldn't always believe what everyone (literally EVERYONE) tells you about a product line. Sometimes you need to try it, because the Arcam AVR400 runs just fine and sounds fantastic.

Anthem has replaced units for people with problems not solvable by usual means. Why would your situation, if dire, be ignored by Anthem? If you consider this question an "abuse", don't respond.
John
post #12230 of 14714
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Originally Posted by dean-l View Post

I listen to the Arcam AVR400 I had to buy, because I've been waiting almost three months for an Anthem MRX700 replacement for the unit sitting on the floor. (My dealer is waiting for 2 more. No one has an answer.)
The Anthem MRX700, sitting on the floor, reminds me that no matter how many positive posts there are on a forum, you can still get completely left hanging by your dealer AND the manufacturer. It also reminds me that people who have negative experiences should be NOT be abused or marginalized because they MIGHT have important feedback to share.
The Arcam AVR400, that is sitting in the rack, reminds me that you shouldn't always believe what everyone (literally EVERYONE) tells you about a product line. Sometimes you need to try it, because the Arcam AVR400 runs just fine and sounds fantastic (without ANY room correction used, by the way).

Something is very odd with your situation. I completely understand that you are upset about this. I had a lemon MRX-300 that I had to return to the dealer, I had a new one in my possession 3 weeks later. 3 months is completely unacceptable, what is your dealer telling you? If the dealer has any kind of relationship with Anthem, surely he can get an answer as to how long it will take to get replacement units? Did this same dealer also sell you the Arcam?

BTW, I do think that negative experiences should be brought out into the open. Often times, companies learn from horror stories and better their customer service for the benefit of all.
post #12231 of 14714
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Originally Posted by RaggedEdge View Post

Something is very odd with your situation. I completely understand that you are upset about this. I had a lemon MRX-300 that I had to return to the dealer, I had a new one in my possession 3 weeks later. 3 months is completely unacceptable, what is your dealer telling you? If the dealer has any kind of relationship with Anthem, surely he can get an answer as to how long it will take to get replacement units? Did this same dealer also sell you the Arcam?
BTW, I do think that negative experiences should be brought out into the open. Often times, companies learn from horror stories and better their customer service for the benefit of all.
I'm not doubting you, but this is the complete opposite of my experience with an MRX300 that lost video output from Hdmi. I called Anthem. They had me run through a few things to try e.g. Upgrade to latest version, reboot to factory settings. When all else failed, they refered me to my dealer. Dealer checked it out and sent it back. I had a new unit in less than 2 weeks. This is also why I would not recommend buying used in response to other post thinking of getting a good deal on a 500. Warranty is worth the extra $.

In the end my dealer took my new 300, and offered me a reasonable deal on a 700, which I took. Very satisfied. This forum certainly has enhanced the value of my investment, as I never would have figured out maximizing the setup. Good luck getting your unit back in action!
post #12232 of 14714
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Originally Posted by RaggedEdge View Post

Something is very odd with your situation. I completely understand that you are upset about this. I had a lemon MRX-300 that I had to return to the dealer, I had a new one in my possession 3 weeks later. 3 months is completely unacceptable, what is your dealer telling you? If the dealer has any kind of relationship with Anthem, surely he can get an answer as to how long it will take to get replacement units? Did this same dealer also sell you the Arcam?
BTW, I do think that negative experiences should be brought out into the open. Often times, companies learn from horror stories and better their customer service for the benefit of all.

It sounds like his Anthem's serial # has been flagged as not under warranty. smile.gif
post #12233 of 14714
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Originally Posted by usxplong View Post

I had D2v and P5 with Sig series from Paradigm. Then due to some situations I sold my D2v , P5, S8 v3, C5v3, and ADP3 v3 and down graded to MRX 700, S6 v3, C3 v3 and ADP3 v1. It might sound crazy but in my situation I get a better sound quality than my previous top of the line equipments. It is possible that my previous equipment was overkilled for my room and I was not fully using them or might have been other reasons. But I hear things with my MRX I didn't hear before and the sound is so good that I enjoy every moment of it.

Are you running the S6 directly off the MRX700? Do you miss the external amp at all?
post #12234 of 14714
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Originally Posted by dean-l View Post

I listen to the Arcam AVR400 I had to buy, because I've been waiting almost three months for an Anthem MRX700 replacement for the unit sitting on the floor. (My dealer is waiting for 2 more. No one has an answer.)
The Anthem MRX700, sitting on the floor, reminds me that no matter how many positive posts there are on a forum, you can still get completely left hanging by your dealer AND the manufacturer. It also reminds me that people who have negative experiences should be NOT be abused or marginalized because they MIGHT have important feedback to share.
The Arcam AVR400, that is sitting in the rack, reminds me that you shouldn't always believe what everyone (literally EVERYONE) tells you about a product line. Sometimes you need to try it, because the Arcam AVR400 runs just fine and sounds fantastic (without ANY room correction used, by the way).
Were you working exclusively through your dealer? If so, then I think you should've contacted Anthem directly by giving them a call. Anyway, enjoy your Arcam!!!
post #12235 of 14714
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Originally Posted by dean-l View Post

I listen to the Arcam AVR400 I had to buy, because I've been waiting almost three months for an Anthem MRX700 replacement for the unit sitting on the floor. (My dealer is waiting for 2 more. No one has an answer.)
The Anthem MRX700, sitting on the floor, reminds me that no matter how many positive posts there are on a forum, you can still get completely left hanging by your dealer AND the manufacturer. It also reminds me that people who have negative experiences should be NOT be abused or marginalized because they MIGHT have important feedback to share.
The Arcam AVR400, that is sitting in the rack, reminds me that you shouldn't always believe what everyone (literally EVERYONE) tells you about a product line. Sometimes you need to try it, because the Arcam AVR400 runs just fine and sounds fantastic (without ANY room correction used, by the way).

I also had a similar situation, It took 3 months for Anthem to return my receiver to me. They ended up giving me a exchange. I was in contact with Anthem and my dealer, I dont know what was going on and it was very frustrating at the time!! But i will say this, I absolutely love this receiver! It is never tiring and like someone said earlier it just sounds like a receiver should sound!
To my ears anyway!! Well worth the wait!
post #12236 of 14714
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Originally Posted by Tank_PD View Post

It sounds like his Anthem's serial # has been flagged as not under warranty. smile.gif

???? When you assume........well, you know the rest.

Bought through a dealer. New. My dealer is waiting for another 2 700's he's sold and is waiting for them as well.

3 months.

My dealer is in contact with Piero (as have I), distributor, as well as up the chain. He CANNOT get an answer from any of them as to what is going on, or even a timeframe.

I cannot enjoy my Arcam AVR400 because I need to return it to BB, because my dealer refuses to refund my money on the Anthem. After six months and 2 units I think I should be given my money back just for pain and suffering.

I'll probably have to pick up a 500 from my dealer as a stand in. But I'm just sick of it all. I WANT MY MONEY BACK.

P.S. I am NOT waiting for warranty work return. I HAVE the receiver sitting 4 feet away on the floor. I an waiting for a replacement.

This is WITHOUT A DOUBT the WORST consumer experience I have EVER had. PERIOD. BY FAR.
Edited by dean-l - 9/12/12 at 11:06am
post #12237 of 14714
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Originally Posted by dean-l View Post

???? When you assume........well, you know the rest.
Bought through a dealer. My dealer is waiting for another 2 700's he's sold and is waiting for inventory as well.
3 months. My dealer is in contact with Piero (as have I), distributor, as well as up the chain. He CANNOT get an answer from any of them as to what is going on, or even a timeframe.
I cannot enjoy my Arcam AVR400 because I need to return it to BB. I'll probably have to pick up a 500 from my dealer as a stand in.
P.S. I am NOT waiting for warranty work return. I HAVE the receiver sitting 4 feet away on the floor. I an waiting for a replacement.

Not assuming anything. It's called speculation because several people had suggested your story wasn't the whole story.
post #12238 of 14714
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Originally Posted by dean-l View Post

???? When you assume........well, you know the rest.
Bought through a dealer. New. My dealer is waiting for another 2 700's he's sold and is waiting for them as well.
3 months.
My dealer is in contact with Piero (as have I), distributor, as well as up the chain. He CANNOT get an answer from any of them as to what is going on, or even a timeframe.
I cannot enjoy my Arcam AVR400 because I need to return it to BB, because my dealer refuses to refund my money on the Anthem. After six months and 2 units I think I should be given my money back just for pain and suffering.
I'll probably have to pick up a 500 from my dealer as a stand in. But I'm just sick of it all. I WANT MY MONEY BACK.
P.S. I am NOT waiting for warranty work return. I HAVE the receiver sitting 4 feet away on the floor. I an waiting for a replacement.
This is WITHOUT A DOUBT the WORST consumer experience I have EVER had. PERIOD. BY FAR.

Thanks for the additional explanation. You are definitely getting screwed, I guess it is possible that Anthem is way behind, but they should still know their own lead times. Also, your dealer should give you your money back, I really don't understand why they won't do that.

This situation does not speak well for Anthem and I agree it's a horror story that needs to be addressed by them ASAP. I hope things work out for you because the Anthem MRX line of receivers really are awesome when they work properly.
post #12239 of 14714
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Originally Posted by Tank_PD View Post

Are you running the S6 directly off the MRX700? Do you miss the external amp at all?

Yes. I am runnig all my speakers from MRX700 directly. I have no external amp and don't miss my P5 because it sounds fantastic with lots of power. I run out of hearing ability before my MRX runs out of power.
post #12240 of 14714
I had a "odd" experience last night. I had my 500 on watching some TV, no probs. Then I was wattching/listening a few songs BD of Neil Young's Americana album, no probs. Then I started watching a few of the "extras". On the 2nd & 3rd one there was no audio, and I didn't think anything of it at the time because it was a take off on old silent movies (kinda funny actually looking back at it). Then when I switched back to TV, no sound. Switched to the tuner, then Internet radio and it was a static white noise. So, I powered down, waitied a minute, started it back up again, and all was fine.
I wasn't quite sure what to make of it. It's the only time I've had any issues with my MRX, other than operator error. Hopefully just an isolated incident.
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