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post #12331 of 14619
9/22/12 at 1:03pm
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Originally Posted by NeogeoG View Post

Ok, thanks guys for your comments, I will follow your advice and leave all the speakers at 60hz, its just a bit of a surprise that it doesnt use the usual 80hz, but I will follow what ARC sais, it surely knows what it does.smile.gif

80Hz is an old THX recommendation that doesn't apply to everyone given the room corrections that are available today and what they can do.
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post #12332 of 14619
9/22/12 at 3:12pm
Hey guys, unsure whether its been answered or not, its my first post and here it goes.

I recently purchased an MRX 700 (non-US), on start up the product code comes up on the display as an "MRX 500" when in actual fact its an MRX700, even before or after firmware upgrade, still displays MRX500 on start up. Is there a way to change it to display MRX700? Its not a big issue but would be nice of it to display what you bought.

All in all a great AV and by the way a great forum .
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post #12333 of 14619
9/22/12 at 3:57pm
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Originally Posted by ZeeKayOne View Post

Hey guys, unsure whether its been answered or not, its my first post and here it goes.
I recently purchased an MRX 700 (non-US), on start up the product code comes up on the display as an "MRX 500" when in actual fact its an MRX700, even before or after firmware upgrade, still displays MRX500 on start up. Is there a way to change it to display MRX700? Its not a big issue but would be nice of it to display what you bought.
All in all a great AV and by the way a great forum .

I'd email tech support because this is not normal. If you did the proper firmware update it should show 700.
tech@anthemav.com
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post #12334 of 14619
9/22/12 at 4:11pm
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Originally Posted by jayray View Post

80Hz is an old THX recommendation that doesn't apply to everyone given the room corrections that are available today and what they can do.
John

Thanks for explaining:), ¿would you recomend keeping the 60z also for 2.1 stereo music?.

Greetings.
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post #12335 of 14619
9/22/12 at 4:33pm
Ok John, will do. See how we go. I too thought it was odd and thought a quick firmware upgrade should do the trick to no avail. Made sure it was the right firmware file (230v). Don't know what it is.

I'll wait for Anthem's response.

Thanks mate for your response
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post #12336 of 14619
9/22/12 at 8:11pm
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Originally Posted by NeogeoG View Post

Thanks for explaining:), ¿would you recomend keeping the 60z also for 2.1 stereo music?.

Yes, since you are using a sub. You should post your charts and Target page.
John

Edited by jayray - 9/22/12 at 8:43pm
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post #12337 of 14619
9/23/12 at 12:53am
Anthem measurements 1.jpg 315k .jpg file

Anthem measurements 2.jpg 315k .jpg file

Here are the measurements made by ARC.

Greetings.
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post #12338 of 14619
9/23/12 at 5:32am
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Originally Posted by NeogeoG View Post

Anthem measurements 1.jpg 315k .jpg file
Anthem measurements 2.jpg 315k .jpg file
Here are the measurements made by ARC.
Greetings.

These aren't too bad and since you said you can't move your speakers I guess you're good to go. Why are there two measurements? What are these.
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post #12339 of 14619
9/23/12 at 6:35am
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These aren't too bad and since you said you can't move your speakers I guess you're good to go. Why are there two measurements? What are these.

The only speakers I could move around right now is the front left/right speakers, maybe I could try another place for the subwoofer or even the back spakers but that would be quite dificult..

There are 2 photos, but you have to look at both of them because the second one repeats left/right sorrounds but shows the center speaker and subwoofer, I am using a 5.1 setup-

¿If I had the posibility to move the speakers which ones do you think would benefit from moving them around.

Thanks for the help.
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post #12340 of 14619
9/23/12 at 7:17am
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Originally Posted by NeogeoG View Post

The only speakers I could move around right now is the front left/right speakers, maybe I could try another place for the subwoofer or even the back spakers but that would be quite dificult..
There are 2 photos, but you have to look at both of them because the second one repeats left/right sorrounds but shows the center speaker and subwoofer, I am using a 5.1 setup-
¿If I had the posibility to move the speakers which ones do you think would benefit from moving them around.
Thanks for the help.

Your right front is getting a bit too much boundary gain and might benefit from moving away from the corner. It's not too bad and ARC has mostly corrected. The right surround is worst and ARC is not able to correct. You can see the large hump left at 50 hz in the calculated curve. The sub isn't bad but does fall off a bit in the lowest end. This looks more like it's not quite big enough for the size of the room.
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post #12341 of 14619
9/23/12 at 10:42am
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Originally Posted by NeogeoG View Post

Anthem measurements 1.jpg 315k .jpg file
Anthem measurements 2.jpg 315k .jpg file
Here are the measurements made by ARC.
Greetings.

Can you post up your targets window?

What did ARC set the Subs cuttoffs at? We would like to see it at 120, but I think it has set it lower and I see no reason why it would do that. Did you manually change it to 80 like you had done with your fronts?
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post #12342 of 14619
9/23/12 at 11:35am
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Originally Posted by Tigger! View Post

Can you post up your targets window?
What did ARC set the Subs cuttoffs at? We would like to see it at 120, but I think it has set it lower and I see no reason why it would do that. Did you manually change it to 80 like you had done with your fronts?

I only changed the speakers to 80hz manually in the receiver menu, but now I have put them again at 60hz, so its all exactly like ARC set it.

¿Where can I see the target window, is it in the arc software?

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post #12343 of 14619
9/23/12 at 11:36am
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Originally Posted by Shrike645 View Post

Your right front is getting a bit too much boundary gain and might benefit from moving away from the corner. It's not too bad and ARC has mostly corrected. The right surround is worst and ARC is not able to correct. You can see the large hump left at 50 hz in the calculated curve. The sub isn't bad but does fall off a bit in the lowest end. This looks more like it's not quite big enough for the size of the room.

Thanks for the help, its good to know how I can get better results in my HC.
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post #12344 of 14619
9/23/12 at 11:59am
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Originally Posted by NeogeoG View Post

I only changed the speakers to 80hz manually in the receiver menu, but now I have put them again at 60hz, so its all exactly like ARC set it.
¿Where can I see the target window, is it in the arc software?
Greetings.
Open your latest ARC Measurement File and click on the Target Button.
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post #12345 of 14619
9/23/12 at 2:45pm
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Originally Posted by NeogeoG View Post

Thanks for the help, its good to know how I can get better results in my HC.

You're welcome. You can also see how the mids and highs are down on your surrounds as I suggested you might see by having them raised. ARC is boosting up to it's MRX limit of 5K. If they sounded better to you raised then that's what's important.

Tigger is probably right about your sub. It's probably got a low cutoff (ie < 120) but by the measured chart it doesn't appear that it should.
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post #12346 of 14619
9/23/12 at 3:36pm
ARC Target.jpg 310k .jpg file

Here is the Target data, It has put the subwoofer to 80hz, I dont know why if you say it should be at 120, dont know if I can change it.

About the back speakers being high, at fist I had my sofa almost touching the wall, that is why I put them 50/60cm up, and it really sounded great, but now I have the sofa aorund 60/70cm from the back wall, I have tourned the spakers to face the sofa, but they are still high, seems like they sound good, but I am not sure if now it would be better to lower them a bit, or maybe even put them on the ground.

Thanks again for everyone that is helping me out, its really great to have experienced forum members showing us how to get better results in out HC.smile.gif

Greetings.
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post #12347 of 14619
9/23/12 at 3:44pm
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Originally Posted by NeogeoG View Post

ARC Target.jpg 310k .jpg file
Here is the Target data, It has put the subwoofer to 80hz, I dont know why if you say it should be at 120, dont know if I can change it.
About the back speakers being high, at fist I had my sofa almost touching the wall, that is why I put them 50/60cm up, and it really sounded great, but now I have the sofa aorund 60/70cm from the back wall, I have tourned the spakers to face the sofa, but they are still high, seems like they sound good, but I am not sure if now it would be better to lower them a bit, or maybe even put them on the ground.
Thanks again for everyone that is helping me out, its really great to have experienced forum members showing us how to get better results in out HC.smile.gif
Greetings.

With your sub the only thing that comes to my mind is that you have a slight dip from 80 to 150hz and if this small amount is fooling ARC into thinking it is falling off and then it's setting the cutoff to 80. You could try moving your sub forward even a few inches and it might change this.
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post #12348 of 14619
9/24/12 at 12:43am
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Originally Posted by Shrike645 View Post

With your sub the only thing that comes to my mind is that you have a slight dip from 80 to 150hz and if this small amount is fooling ARC into thinking it is falling off and then it's setting the cutoff to 80. You could try moving your sub forward even a few inches and it might change this.

Thanks Shrike645, Ive read that in manual mode of ARC there is a way to calibrate each speaker and try diferent positions to see which one is best, I will try this out and see if my subwoofer gets better.

Right now as I have it set to 80hz, ¿could you explain what is wrong or missing in the sound? numbers dont mean much to me, also would be nice to know what I have to look for in the subwoofer charts when I do the ARC measurements to see if I can place the subwoofer in a better position.

Thanks.
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post #12349 of 14619
9/24/12 at 3:29am
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Originally Posted by jayray View Post

I'd email tech support because this is not normal. If you did the proper firmware update it should show 700.
tech@anthemav.com
John


Jayray, while i'm waiting from Anthem's tech support (emailed 2 days ago,perhaps i need to register to get a response?), i've been thinking, since my purchase was a non -US version MRX700, i guess the only difference between a 500 & 700 is the 700 has more power and has the HD radio. On top of my unit, along the MRX700 wording, it displays all the technologies ARC, DTS, Dolby,Vtuner...etc..etc, minus HD radio.

Surely not they decided to firm it with MRX500 simply because it has no HD radio? Could this be the reason?

Apoloigies if this seems like a putrid reply post, am bored. If i don't hear anything soon from tech support I might head down to the retailer where i bought it from here in Australia and explain the situation.

I did see somewhere on the menu from memory about default to factory settings but I don't want to do that as yet, i guess that doesn't do anything but changes levels/ input assignements back to where they were before. Am pretty confident my firmware upgrade was spot on,without fuss, and remembered quite clearly when i first turned it on it showed MRX500 on start up before the upgrade
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post #12350 of 14619
9/24/12 at 9:49am
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Originally Posted by ZeeKayOne View Post

Jayray, while i'm waiting from Anthem's tech support (emailed 2 days ago,perhaps i need to register to get a response?), i've been thinking, since my purchase was a non -US version MRX700, i guess the only difference between a 500 & 700 is the 700 has more power and has the HD radio. On top of my unit, along the MRX700 wording, it displays all the technologies ARC, DTS, Dolby,Vtuner...etc..etc, minus HD radio.
Surely not they decided to firm it with MRX500 simply because it has no HD radio? Could this be the reason?
Apoloigies if this seems like a putrid reply post, am bored. If i don't hear anything soon from tech support I might head down to the retailer where i bought it from here in Australia and explain the situation.
I did see somewhere on the menu from memory about default to factory settings but I don't want to do that as yet, i guess that doesn't do anything but changes levels/ input assignements back to where they were before. Am pretty confident my firmware upgrade was spot on,without fuss, and remembered quite clearly when i first turned it on it showed MRX500 on start up before the upgrade

This is weird. Today Anthem is back at work so you should get a response soon. I would certainly call my dealer too.
John
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post #12351 of 14619
9/24/12 at 12:43pm
Hello,

I have a 5.1 system.
When i am playing a 7.1 DTS master audio blu ray (TinTIN) the displays shows DTS Master Audio 3/4
but when i push on the info button it shows DTS 5.1 audio out configuring.

Is this good?
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post #12352 of 14619
9/24/12 at 2:56pm
Initially I know the MRX-500 did not support Audio Return Channel. Who knows why since it has HDMI 1.4a ports.

Does anyone know if it has been added in a firmware? I'm pretty choked I dropped $1500 on a high end receiver less than 6 months ago and it doesn't support a pretty standard feature.
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post #12353 of 14619
9/24/12 at 10:43pm
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Originally Posted by SKiTLz View Post

Initially I know the MRX-500 did not support Audio Return Channel. Who knows why since it has HDMI 1.4a ports.
Does anyone know if it has been added in a firmware? I'm pretty choked I dropped $1500 on a high end receiver less than 6 months ago and it doesn't support a pretty standard feature.

Show me where Anthem mentions HDMI version? Manual- NO. Website-NO. MRX Series Data Sheet-NO

Anthem seems COMPLETELY uninterested in mentioning it anywhere I've seen. Unless, I've missed it.

And you know what THAT usually means.


I've read reviews that go BOTH ways. 1.3 or 1.4 and many more that don't mention version # at all.

I'm sure someone on here knows for sure.

Either way, there's a simple way to do it. Set up another input with an audio line from the TV and pick correct video input. Then switch to that input for TV sound. PLUS, that way YOU control all the Audio/video settings, etc. Also, ARC(Audio Return Channel) is only stereo where your TV can probably pass Multi channel material (depending on cable used and source material availability, of course).

Most receiver ARC configurations require you to press some button anyway. Like HEC(HDMI ethernet channel), ARC is nice, but it's only a convenient alternative to what everyone's been doing anyway.
Edited by dean-l - 9/24/12 at 11:07pm
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post #12354 of 14619
9/25/12 at 1:06am
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Originally Posted by Dordt1977 View Post

Hello,
I have a 5.1 system.
When i am playing a 7.1 DTS master audio blu ray (TinTIN) the displays shows DTS Master Audio 3/4
but when i push on the info button it shows DTS 5.1 audio out configuring.
Is this good?

The 3/4 display is telling you the input channels, 3 main channels (LCR), and 4 surround channels (surrounds and rears). I presume the Anthem will mix the rear channels into the surround channels, although it may just throw that info away. I would select the 5.1 soundtrack via the Blu-Ray when using a 5.1 system, the only reason for the 7.1 track is if your system fully supports it.
Regards, mike.
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post #12355 of 14619
9/25/12 at 4:06am
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Originally Posted by dean-l View Post

Show me where Anthem mentions HDMI version? Manual- NO. Website-NO. MRX Series Data Sheet-NO
Anthem seems COMPLETELY uninterested in mentioning it anywhere I've seen. Unless, I've missed it.
And you know what THAT usually means.
I've read reviews that go BOTH ways. 1.3 or 1.4 and many more that don't mention version # at all.
I'm sure someone on here knows for sure.
Either way, there's a simple way to do it. Set up another input with an audio line from the TV and pick correct video input. Then switch to that input for TV sound. PLUS, that way YOU control all the Audio/video settings, etc. Also, ARC(Audio Return Channel) is only stereo where your TV can probably pass Multi channel material (depending on cable used and source material availability, of course).
Most receiver ARC configurations require you to press some button anyway. Like HEC(HDMI ethernet channel), ARC is nice, but it's only a convenient alternative to what everyone's been doing anyway.

To quote Nick @ Anthem earlier in this thread Anthem is doing the correct thing not quoting the HDMI version number


Not what HDMI says. I always said pay attention to supported HDMI features not version number. The rules finally changed this year to my liking and even better, next year mere mention of verison number will be verboten. Our lit says "HDMI v1.4a with 3D support".

http://www.hdmi.org/manufacturer/tra..._logo_pub.aspx

Effective as of January 1, 2012, all non-cable products cannot make any reference to HDMI version numbers. Until that time Adopters can use HDMI version numbers only when the feature or features associated with that HDMI version number is clearly specified. For instance, a manufacturer can describe a product as featuring "HDMI® v.1.4 with Audio Return Channel and HDMI Ethernet Channel," but may not describe a product as being "HDMI® v.1.4 compliant."
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post #12356 of 14619
9/25/12 at 6:07am
Just ordered my mrx 300 today. Want to get prepared for when it gets here. What's the latest firmware revision and how do I get a hold of it?
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post #12357 of 14619
9/25/12 at 6:12am
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Originally Posted by bd2003 View Post

Just ordered my mrx 300 today. Want to get prepared for when it gets here. What's the latest firmware revision and how do I get a hold of it?

See the second post of this forum for both questions.
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post #12358 of 14619
9/25/12 at 6:44am
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Originally Posted by Shrike645 View Post

To quote Nick @ Anthem earlier in this thread Anthem is doing the correct thing not quoting the HDMI version number
Not what HDMI says. I always said pay attention to supported HDMI features not version number. The rules finally changed this year to my liking and even better, next year mere mention of verison number will be verboten. Our lit says "HDMI v1.4a with 3D support".
http://www.hdmi.org/manufacturer/tra..._logo_pub.aspx
Effective as of January 1, 2012, all non-cable products cannot make any reference to HDMI version numbers. Until that time Adopters can use HDMI version numbers only when the feature or features associated with that HDMI version number is clearly specified. For instance, a manufacturer can describe a product as featuring "HDMI® v.1.4 with Audio Return Channel and HDMI Ethernet Channel," but may not describe a product as being "HDMI® v.1.4 compliant."

Doesn't sound "right" - sounds like a version "mess" to me.

You have to look at "supported features" because there is NO STANDARD for any of the HDMI versions. So after a while the numbers MEAN nothing.

"HDMI v1.4 with Audio Return Channel and HDMI Ethernet Channel" - yeah, much easier.

Imagine how many "with"s you'll need in a couple years - Yikes!

HDMI v1.4 with Audio Return Channel(ARC) and HDMI Ethernet Channel (HEC) and 3D Support and 3rd generation CEC support, but NOT 4K pass through support

That's just a beginning:D
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post #12359 of 14619
9/25/12 at 9:05am
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Originally Posted by bd2003 View Post

Just ordered my mrx 300 today. Want to get prepared for when it gets here. What's the latest firmware revision and how do I get a hold of it?

See the second post of this forum for both questions.

Thanks. Didn't notice that. Another question though....I don't see a USB port anywhere on the MRX 300....how do you actually apply the update?
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post #12360 of 14619
9/25/12 at 9:11am
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Originally Posted by bd2003 View Post

Thanks. Didn't notice that. Another question though....I don't see a USB port anywhere on the MRX 300....how do you actually apply the update?

Updates and ARC are done through the serial port. We recommend the keyspan usb to serial port adapter if your computer does not have a serial port.
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