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post #12631 of 16451
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Originally Posted by ScofieldKid View Post

Hmmm. Will probably put my MRX 500 up on EBAY.
I could do an elaborate review, but in short I'm finding the match of the "warm" sound with my relatively "bright" speakers (paradigm ref studio 100) to be just a bit out of my preference. Smart move might be to toss the large Paradigms, since I have found them difficult to match with other rooms / other components. My setup is fine for Jazz and Piano, but it's not as enjoyable for the fusion and rock.
Biggest pluses on the MRX 500 I think are 1) the COAX digital seems to be fairly good 2) the bass linearity is very good and 3) the noise floor is extremely low.
Biggest minuses 1) some of the interface is clunky and 2) no pure audio path passthru if you have external DACs and so on.

Zone 2
post #12632 of 16451
Aw dang. Good eye there Brian-HD! That is a neat feature. Don't know why people don't talk about it in the reviews. Thanks.
post #12633 of 16451
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Originally Posted by ScofieldKid View Post

Hmmm. Will probably put my MRX 500 up on EBAY.
I could do an elaborate review, but in short I'm finding the match of the "warm" sound with my relatively "bright" speakers (paradigm ref studio 100) to be just a bit out of my preference. Smart move might be to toss the large Paradigms, since I have found them difficult to match with other rooms / other components. My setup is fine for Jazz and Piano, but it's not as enjoyable for the fusion and rock.
Biggest pluses on the MRX 500 I think are 1) the COAX digital seems to be fairly good 2) the bass linearity is very good and 3) the noise floor is extremely low.
Biggest minuses 1) some of the interface is clunky and 2) no pure audio path passthru if you have external DACs and so on.

I have Studio 100s hooked up to my D2v and they sound amazing in my room. It is a carpeted room with two rows of seating and they don't sound bright. Also I have tried my MRX 500 with Studio 60s and again brightness was not a issue.

John
post #12634 of 16451
Appreciate the input. Would love to have a D2V myself.
post #12635 of 16451
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Originally Posted by Nick @ Anthem View Post

Sorry, some months ago we announced the dock's cancellation due to its demand having dwindled. In general, smart phones have become a remote control for servers/streamers as opposed to being the server itself (earphones and portable speakers aside) which has made docking them less desirable.

Hello Nick,
This is not a sufficient answer. When a buyer go's to the store and looks at receivers they look for Ipod capabilities. It is a major selling feature. For you to say that the interest has dwindled you are wrong! You advertised this feature from day 1! Sorry to come off as angry but Anthem flat out lied! I love my MRX 700, but I was looking forward to have Anthem dock to by-pass my Ipod internal DAC. Maybe Anthem can throw us owners a bone and give us FLAC capabilities?wink.gif
post #12636 of 16451
I have one question, does de Anthem receiver have support of high resolution audio with 96 or 192 kHz on S/PDIF input?, right now on my Dune Smart D1 I have it set to 48KHz and was wondering if it would be good to set it higher.

Thanks.
post #12637 of 16451
Switched from a Denon 4810 to a MRX 300, ran ARC last night, here's what I got:




It set my:
Fronts +3 (Monitor Audio GS20)
Center +4 (Monitor Audio GSLCR)
Surround Left -3 (Paradigm Titan Monitor v.6)
Surround Right -2
Surround Back Left +1 (Paradigm Mini Monitor v.5)
Surround Back Right +2
Subwoofer -3 (SVS PC-Ultra 13)

No real acoustic treatments other than low-pile carpet and a bookshelf on the left side.
post #12638 of 16451
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Originally Posted by HeffeMusic View Post

Hello Nick,
This is not a sufficient answer. When a buyer go's to the store and looks at receivers they look for Ipod capabilities. It is a major selling feature. For you to say that the interest has dwindled you are wrong! You advertised this feature from day 1! Sorry to come off as angry but Anthem flat out lied! I love my MRX 700, but I was looking forward to have Anthem dock to by-pass my Ipod internal DAC. Maybe Anthem can throw us owners a bone and give us FLAC capabilities?wink.gif

Not worth it man. Get an Apple TV for $99. Separate your streaming from your receiver.
post #12639 of 16451
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Originally Posted by MitchPope View Post

Switched from a Denon 4810 to a MRX 300, ran ARC last night, here's what I got:



It set my:
Fronts +3 (Monitor Audio GS20)
Center +4 (Monitor Audio GSLCR)
Surround Left -3 (Paradigm Titan Monitor v.6)
Surround Right -2
Surround Back Left +1 (Paradigm Mini Monitor v.5)
Surround Back Right +2
Subwoofer -3 (SVS PC-Ultra 13)
No real acoustic treatments other than low-pile carpet and a bookshelf on the left side.

Your graphs look very good. The sub needs more work though. Try moving it around using Quick Measure. Your measured graph looks like it could be flat from 100-20Hz but not where it is now. Check out the graph at the bottom of the FAQ on the first page of the thread. That's what you should aim for.
John
post #12640 of 16451
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Originally Posted by jayray View Post

Your graphs look very good. The sub needs more work though. Try moving it around using Quick Measure. Your measured graph looks like it could be flat from 100-20Hz but not where it is now. Check out the graph at the bottom of the FAQ on the first page of the thread. That's what you should aim for.
John

Listen to what the man says. He knows what he's talking about, and your efforts will be well worth it!
post #12641 of 16451
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Originally Posted by dacaesar View Post

Listen to what the man says. He knows what he's talking about, and your efforts will be well worth it!

He certainly helped me out! Especially when I got the Paradigm Sub 15 smile.gif
post #12642 of 16451
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Originally Posted by jayray View Post

Your graphs look very good. The sub needs more work though. Try moving it around using Quick Measure. Your measured graph looks like it could be flat from 100-20Hz but not where it is now. Check out the graph at the bottom of the FAQ on the first page of the thread. That's what you should aim for.
John

Thank you, I've opened up another location on the floor to try tonight.
My other question is about mic measurement positions, my room is fairly narrow, so positions 1, 2, and 3 as per the manual are fine; but I don't know where to put the mic for 4 and 5. My front speakers are about 7 feet apart and I sit 7 feet away (only seat in room). There is empty space behind me, but no one sits there. Should I measure at 1.5 and 3 feet to either side of point 1, instead of 2' and 4'?
post #12643 of 16451
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Originally Posted by MitchPope View Post

Thank you, I've opened up another location on the floor to try tonight.
My other question is about mic measurement positions, my room is fairly narrow, so positions 1, 2, and 3 as per the manual are fine; but I don't know where to put the mic for 4 and 5. My front speakers are about 7 feet apart and I sit 7 feet away (only seat in room). There is empty space behind me, but no one sits there. Should I measure at 1.5 and 3 feet to either side of point 1, instead of 2' and 4'?

It isn't mandatory to do 5 locations. I'd like to hear the experts chime in, but maybe 3 locations makes more sense in your case.
post #12644 of 16451
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Originally Posted by Tank_PD View Post

Not worth it man. Get an Apple TV for $99. Separate your streaming from your receiver.

I have an Apple TV and it can't play lossless files!
post #12645 of 16451
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Originally Posted by MitchPope View Post

Thank you, I've opened up another location on the floor to try tonight.
My other question is about mic measurement positions, my room is fairly narrow, so positions 1, 2, and 3 as per the manual are fine; but I don't know where to put the mic for 4 and 5. My front speakers are about 7 feet apart and I sit 7 feet away (only seat in room). There is empty space behind me, but no one sits there. Should I measure at 1.5 and 3 feet to either side of point 1, instead of 2' and 4'?

Try 1,2, 3 in front of the seating and 4 and 5 behind using a 2-3 ft. spacing for the mic positions. The average of these positions is what will give a better solution. This is from Anthem and Nick. This is how I did it in my HT and the sound is amazing.
John
post #12646 of 16451
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Originally Posted by scirica View Post

He certainly helped me out! Especially when I got the Paradigm Sub 15 smile.gif

Still liking the the sub?
John
post #12647 of 16451
MitchPope, try separating the sub from the back wall around 20cm, your subwoofer graph looks very similar to mine, and here in the forum they told me to move it from the back wall, I did, and after measuring again with ARC I got a perfect measurement following the target and now the sub sounds even better than before.smile.gif

Greetings.
post #12648 of 16451
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Originally Posted by jayray View Post

Still liking the the sub?
John

More every day! Just got a hi-rez surround album by Porcupine Tree. The bass and drums sound amazing!!
post #12649 of 16451
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I have one question, does de Anthem receiver have support of high resolution audio with 96 or 192 kHz on S/PDIF input?, right now on my Dune Smart D1 I have it set to 48KHz and was wondering if it would be good to set it higher.

Thanks.

Anybody knows if I its ok to set my Dune player to 96/192KHz for lossless audio? I dont find any specification regarding this in the manual or any place in the internet.

Greetings.
post #12650 of 16451
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Originally Posted by HeffeMusic View Post

I have an Apple TV and it can't play lossless files!

It absolutely plays loseless files. Do you mean it won't stream FLAC?
post #12651 of 16451
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Originally Posted by Tank_PD View Post

It absolutely plays loseless files. Do you mean it won't stream FLAC?


Hello,
Apple TV converts all audio to 44khz. So your 96khz files are converted to44khz.
post #12652 of 16451
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Originally Posted by HeffeMusic View Post

Hello,
Apple TV converts all audio to 44khz. So your 96khz files are converted to44khz.

That is not the same thing as saying it won't play loseless files. The vast majority of music is not available in SACD or high-rez digital formats, and those that are at a price premium.
post #12653 of 16451
For playback of lossless files, SACD rips, and DVD-A rips, a htpc with an hdmi output is pretty versatile solution. If you want to use a media player that can handle hi-res multichannel files, tje Pivos Aios is pretty good.
post #12654 of 16451
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Originally Posted by audit13 View Post

For playback of lossless files, SACD rips, and DVD-A rips, a htpc with an hdmi output is pretty versatile solution. If you want to use a media player that can handle hi-res multichannel files, tje Pivos Aios is pretty good.

Sounds like it has some good hardware, specially like the fact that it has a coaixal output, but I am wondering if its posible to set it to 44, 88, 176KHz instead of the tipical 48 used for movies, I am trying to find a good media player for my flac audio.

Greetings.
post #12655 of 16451
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Originally Posted by NeogeoG View Post

Sounds like it has some good hardware, specially like the fact that it has a coaixal output, but I am wondering if its posible to set it to 44, 88, 176KHz instead of the tipical 48 used for movies, I am trying to find a good media player for my flac audio.
Greetings.

Hi,

I run everything from the Pivos Aios to the mrx using hdmi. I know of no inexpensive media player, including the Aios, that can convert the bitrate or sampling frequency before sending it out via hdmi or optical.

The Pivos Aios converts flac files to lpcm before outputting the signal, regardless of what settings you use for hmdi or optical.

The conversion of 48/24 audio tracks, as commonly found on DTS-HD and TrueHD soundtracks, to other bit rates and sampling frequencies would require a lot of processing power. SACDs using a base sampling frequency of 44.1 which yields 88.1, 176.4. DVD-A, TrueHD, and DTS-HD use a base sampling frequency of 48 which yields 96 and 192. Changing from one to the other does, in my opinion, degrade the audio quality.

Any reason you need to re-sample the signal to 44, 88, and 176?
post #12656 of 16451
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Originally Posted by audit13 View Post

Hi,
I run everything from the Pivos Aios to the mrx using hdmi. I know of no inexpensive media player, including the Aios, that can convert the bitrate or sampling frequency before sending it out via hdmi or optical.
The Pivos Aios converts flac files to lpcm before outputting the signal, regardless of what settings you use for hmdi or optical.
The conversion of 48/24 audio tracks, as commonly found on DTS-HD and TrueHD soundtracks, to other bit rates and sampling frequencies would require a lot of processing power. SACDs using a base sampling frequency of 44.1 which yields 88.1, 176.4. DVD-A, TrueHD, and DTS-HD use a base sampling frequency of 48 which yields 96 and 192. Changing from one to the other does, in my opinion, degrade the audio quality.
Any reason you need to re-sample the signal to 44, 88, and 176?

Hy audit13, I am no expert in lossless audio, but Ive been told that 48KHz is mainly used for movies, but flac is normally at 44.1, 88, 96, 176, 192KHz, its rare to find flac at 48KHz, most flac are 44.1, that is why its better to set it nativey at 44.1Khz, they also say its better to send it PCM so that the Anthem can equalize with ARC and get the best sound possible.

If you have the Pivos Aios I also sugest you try to conect it to the Anthem receiver using coaixal, this friend of mine from Spanish forums that is quite an expert tell me that the diference is quite noticable and better through coaxial.

I must say that till recently ive been using my Ps3 with Ps3 Media Server software for reading Flac files from my PC, now it has stoped working and I cant get the software to conect to my Ps3, others have experienced the same problems, and maybe its because of some ps3 filware update.

I also have a Dune HD Smart D1 that is a totally amazing media player for MKV, fullbluray iso, but its conected to the receiver through HDMI, and the HDMI only output of the Anthem goes to my projector, that is why I need another player just for flac, so I can conect it to the receiver via Coaxial (if possible) or optical, and send the picture to my tv directly from the media player through HDMI.

I dont know of other media players with coaixal output, that is why I am considering the Pivos Aros, would happy to hear your impresiones, if it sounds good etc.., for example my Dune also reads flac but every time I select a song there is a slight cut/noise at the begining.

Greetings.
post #12657 of 16451
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Originally Posted by NeogeoG View Post

Hy audit13, I am no expert in lossless audio, but Ive been told that 48KHz is mainly used for movies, but flac is normally at 44.1, 88, 96, 176, 192KHz, its rare to find flac at 48KHz, most flac are 44.1, that is why its better to set it nativey at 44.1Khz, they also say its better to send it PCM so that the Anthem can equalize with ARC and get the best sound possible.
If you have the Pivos Aios I also sugest you try to conect it to the Anthem receiver using coaixal, this friend of mine from Spanish forums that is quite an expert tell me that the diference is quite noticable and better through coaxial.
I must say that till recently ive been using my Ps3 with Ps3 Media Server software for reading Flac files from my PC, now it has stoped working and I cant get the software to conect to my Ps3, others have experienced the same problems, and maybe its because of some ps3 filware update.
I also have a Dune HD Smart D1 that is a totally amazing media player for MKV, fullbluray iso, but its conected to the receiver through HDMI, and the HDMI only output of the Anthem goes to my projector, that is why I need another player just for flac, so I can conect it to the receiver via Coaxial (if possible) or optical, and send the picture to my tv directly from the media player through HDMI.
I dont know of other media players with coaixal output, that is why I am considering the Pivos Aros, would happy to hear your impresiones, if it sounds good etc.., for example my Dune also reads flac but every time I select a song there is a slight cut/noise at the begining.
Greetings.

I agree that many movie soundtracks use 48 khz as a standard, with 96 and 192 being very rare.

Regardless of the sampling rate and bit depth, the Pivos Aios cannot change either one. The Pivos does not output a flac signal, it outputs an uncompressed pcm version of the flac file. You cannot get the Pivos to output a raw flac file. If it did, the Anthem could not decode it to pcm.

I used hdmi because optical cannot output high resolution multichannel pcm over optical.

Depending on the file size, I get a minor second of silence on some tracks. I guess it's because the Anthem needs to sync with the song? Not sure.
Edited by audit13 - 10/28/12 at 9:25am
post #12658 of 16451
Squeezebox Touch does coax.
post #12659 of 16451
Without going back through the entire recent thread posts...has there been any drop off in MRX problems as of late? I know my retailer had told me close to 50 reported issues to his store in a 3 month period with the AVR line. I know that the buttons on my remote are sticking now, and I have to whack it to stop it from transmitting a signal. Of course the biggest issue with the 500 I have at this moment is the dead Component Input channel, amongst other things.
post #12660 of 16451
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Originally Posted by audit13 View Post

I agree that many movie soundtracks use 48 khz as a standard, with 96 and 192 being very rare.
Regardless of the sampling rate and bit depth, the Pivos Aios cannot change either one. The Pivos does not output a flac signal, it outputs an uncompressed pcm version of the flac file. You cannot get the Pivos to output a raw flac file. If it did, the Anthem could not decode it to pcm.
I used hdmi because optical cannot output high resolution multichannel pcm over optical.
Depending on the file size, I get a minor second of silence on some tracks. I guess it's because the Anthem needs to sync with the song? Not sure.

Thanks for explaining, I think the minor second of silence always hapens, it did with my Onkyo 809 and also using the Ps3 with Ps3 Media Server.

I will keep investigating to see which media player is better just for listening to flac music, although the Pivos Aios is looking good and the price is also pretty sweet.
I would like to know if you are happy with the Pivos Aros, if the fan makes noise, etc..., maybe you could give me your thoughts in the Pivos Aros thread, thanks in advanced.smile.gif
Ive been looking for the Pivos Aros in Spain or Europe but I cant find it, if I buy it I would have to import it from USA, and I am not sure if it will work with spanish electricity that is diferent than in the USA.
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1387436/pivos-aios-hd-media-center-the-semiofficial-thread/720
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Squeezebox Touch does coax.

Thanks HotWheelz, I will also think about this option, although I see that its more expensive, but what I am really interested in is high quility music, although I dont want to spend to much eather, my limit would probably be around 300 dolars.
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