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post #12871 of 16457
I'm seeing the target and the measure above but not the result. Are you just seeking an opinion on the measurements?
post #12872 of 16457
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Originally Posted by scirica View Post

I'm seeing the target and the measure above but not the result. Are you just seeking an opinion on the measurements?
I forgot and did the screen shots before I calculated, but they are basically corrected to the target line. Any suggestions on getting my measured result a bit flatter where possible and whether my sub set at an 80 Hz crossover is good or bad (can't remember if it is should be at 120 Hz). I listened to some sweeps from the AIX test disc and it seems fairly smooth. I may still be hung up on my Denon days and Audyssey setting the LPF for LFE to 120.
post #12873 of 16457
Dear Audiophiles,
Recently I've become owner of new MRX 300 and now actively shopping for speakers. My initial setup would include 2.1 combination with extension to 3.1 in near future. My dealer suggested me Totem Dreamcatchers as front speakers to start with. They seem to sound great, but my main concern right now is that they are 4 Omh. How critical is it for RMX? Should I better off with 8 Omh speakers?
post #12874 of 16457
Hi guys, been a while since I last posted here. I have been enjoying my MRX500. Today, I got the urge to experiment and I hooked up a NAD power amp I had lying around for the main L and R fronts. When I try to run ARC, it is not seeing the two speakers that are hooked up to the NAD. Is there a way for ARC to see these speakers? Do i HAVE to hook them up directly to the MRX, run ARC and then hook them up to the NAD again? Also, I dont have any surround back speakers (only 5.1) but ARC is not letting me select "none" Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks
atabea
post #12875 of 16457
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Originally Posted by atabea View Post

Hi guys, been a while since I last posted here. I have been enjoying my MRX500. Today, I got the urge to experiment and I hooked up a NAD power amp I had lying around for the main L and R fronts. When I try to run ARC, it is not seeing the two speakers that are hooked up to the NAD. Is there a way for ARC to see these speakers? Do i HAVE to hook them up directly to the MRX, run ARC and then hook them up to the NAD again? Also, I dont have any surround back speakers (only 5.1) but ARC is not letting me select "none" Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
atabea

Arc doesn't care what is powering the speakers, it just needs the microphone to listen and ARC to measure and adjust. Wondering if you did something with your ARC software setup? I would run it in auto mode first. There is no reason for this. Are your L&R speakers playing sounds with the NAD in the chain?
post #12876 of 16457
Thanks Scirica, Yes, the nad was playing fine when I connected it to the MRX. It's just when I try to run arc it is not seeing the two speakers hooked up to the nad. I tthink my software is set up fine as I have not changed anything except update the software to the latest version
post #12877 of 16457
ok, this is odd. I just unhooked the nad and ARC is still not seeing the FR mains.

My software info reads:

MCU FW==50.25
VIDEO====50.12
DSP1=====40.01
DSP2======50.04
MM========1.1.0

In the ARC menu where you select sthe speakers to measure, it is defaulted to "two rears." I do not have two rear speakers and I can't adjust it to zero. Still not seeing the two mains
Edited by atabea - 11/19/12 at 3:37pm
post #12878 of 16457
Very odd. Can you re-install the ARC software (saving any ARC files)? I've never seen this reported on the forum.
post #12879 of 16457
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Originally Posted by scirica View Post

Very odd. Can you re-install the ARC software (saving any ARC files)? I've never seen this reported on the forum.

I am not trying to re-install the ARC software. I am only trying to run ARC. Should I reinstall the ARC software???????

Is it possible to go back to the previous software? I did not have any issues with the previous one, in fact, this is the one and only time i have had any real "technical" issues.
Edited by atabea - 11/19/12 at 3:50pm
post #12880 of 16457
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Originally Posted by atabea View Post

I am not trying to re-install the ARC software. I am only trying to run ARC. Should I reinstall the ARC software???????
Is it possible to go back to the previous software? I did not have any issues with the previous one, in fact, this is the one and only time i have had any real "technical" issues.
Just to make sure the basics are covered. I suggest you might want to check the connection from the preouts on the back of your MRX to the amp to make sure they are fully connected. After that, you should check the speaker cable connection from the back of your amp to your speakers to make sure they are secure.
post #12881 of 16457
Just an idea to get you back to square one with ARC. You'll have your saved files so it can't hurt. I'm hoping others will chime in and help out.
post #12882 of 16457
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Originally Posted by ninja12 View Post

Just to make sure the basics are covered. I suggest you might want to check the connection from the preouts on the back of your MRX to the amp to make sure they are fully connected. After that, you should check the speaker cable connection from the back of your amp to your speakers to make sure they are secure.

Hi Ninja, I have now disconnected the NAD and am just running the MRX straight up. I have confirmed all my speaker hookups are correct.

thanks
atabea
post #12883 of 16457
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Originally Posted by MitchPope View Post

Replaced my surrounds with Monitor Audio BX6's, here are my new graphs, still have the null.
...
My trims are now:
FL 2
C 2
FR 2
SR -2
SL -1
Sub 1
SBR -1
SBL -1

Your graphs look really good. The only think I would concentrate on is the sub. Did you set the cutoff to 80 or did ARC? Normally we want 120 but we also want ARC to naturally set it to 120.

Your sub has a huge null at 110Hz. This may be the reason ARC is picking 80 for you. Have you tried positioning your sub to get rid of that null?
post #12884 of 16457
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Originally Posted by Exaper View Post

Dear Audiophiles,
Recently I've become owner of new MRX 300 and now actively shopping for speakers. My initial setup would include 2.1 combination with extension to 3.1 in near future. My dealer suggested me Totem Dreamcatchers as front speakers to start with. They seem to sound great, but my main concern right now is that they are 4 Ohm. How critical is it for RMX? Should I better off with 8 Ohm speakers?

My Fronts, and Center are all 4 ohm and my surrounds are 6 ohm. I'm a 5.1 and my 700 has no problems. I know we have had others with 300 and 500 here that have had no problems with 4 Ohm speakers as well.
post #12885 of 16457
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Originally Posted by atabea View Post

Hi guys, been a while since I last posted here. I have been enjoying my MRX500. Today, I got the urge to experiment and I hooked up a NAD power amp I had lying around for the main L and R fronts. When I try to run ARC, it is not seeing the two speakers that are hooked up to the NAD. Is there a way for ARC to see these speakers? Do i HAVE to hook them up directly to the MRX, run ARC and then hook them up to the NAD again? Also, I dont have any surround back speakers (only 5.1) but ARC is not letting me select "none" Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
atabea

ARC knows nothing about your external amp. It works based on what it hears. I see from your later posts that you are having problems without the external amp as well.

What version of ARC Software are you running? I highly doubt the problem is ARC. I suspect your problem is more likely a communications issue. Have you confirmed that your serial cable is well connected to the MRX, the USB to Serial adapter if you have one and that the cables for the adapter are all well connected? I would make sure your serial connection is working. That is the most likely problem you are having.
post #12886 of 16457
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Originally Posted by Tigger! View Post

ARC knows nothing about your external amp. It works based on what it hears. I see from your later posts that you are having problems without the external amp as well.
What version of ARC Software are you running? I highly doubt the problem is ARC. I suspect your problem is more likely a communications issue. Have you confirmed that your serial cable is well connected to the MRX, the USB to Serial adapter if you have one and that the cables for the adapter are all well connected? I would make sure your serial connection is working. That is the most likely problem you are having.

HI Tigger,

You helped me a lot in the past when I first got my MRX. Always appreciated!!!!. I am using the same calbles/serial adapter that I last used about a year ago, as I haven't tinkered with my receiver since then. The cables worked in the past so I assume they should be working now. I didn't like the way my equipment rack looked anyway, so I have now permanently retired the NAD amp. The receiver works fine with and without the nad attached as I just tried it with a couple of movies. The problem arises when I try to run ARC, which I must do as I have moved my seating position around and the distances have changed. Before running, I thought it would be a good time to update to the newest software: 50.25. Once that was successfully loaded, I then ran Arc and that is when i encountered the anomalies. On the page where I select the speakers to measure, my front mains are not checked off and I am not able to select them manually. I am also seeing in a window "two rears" which I don't have, since I only have a 5.1 system. All other speakers are checked off : Center, surrounds and Sub. The ARC software is 3.0.2. Somehow I doubt it is a communications issue since Arc opens normally and the only difference is that the options are not what they used to be. I previously was able to select and/or deselect the speakers I wanted to measure. Also, I was able to update the receiver using the same cables.

As noted earlier, my software reads:

MCU FW==50.25
VIDEO====50.12
DSP1=====40.01
DSP2======50.04
MM========1.1.0
post #12887 of 16457
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Originally Posted by Tigger! View Post

Your graphs look really good. The only think I would concentrate on is the sub. Did you set the cutoff to 80 or did ARC? Normally we want 120 but we also want ARC to naturally set it to 120.
Your sub has a huge null at 110Hz. This may be the reason ARC is picking 80 for you. Have you tried positioning your sub to get rid of that null?
ARC set the cutoff for the sub at 80. I've tried the quick measure and moved it to the few places it could live and they all have that 30-ish Hz dip. I will see what I can do about the 110 Hz null this weekend.
post #12888 of 16457
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Originally Posted by MitchPope View Post

ARC set the cutoff for the sub at 80. I've tried the quick measure and moved it to the few places it could live and they all have that 30-ish Hz dip. I will see what I can do about the 110 Hz null this weekend.

You didn't include your calculated line, but assuming ARC is hopefully doing an ok job of fill the 30Hz dip, I would worry more about the 110Hz dip. The 110Hz dip is what is causing ARC to set your cut off at 80 instead of 120, which your sub should easily be able to do.
post #12889 of 16457
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Originally Posted by atabea View Post

HI Tigger,
You helped me a lot in the past when I first got my MRX. Always appreciated!!!!. I am using the same calbles/serial adapter that I last used about a year ago, as I haven't tinkered with my receiver since then. The cables worked in the past so I assume they should be working now. I didn't like the way my equipment rack looked anyway, so I have now permanently retired the NAD amp. The receiver works fine with and without the nad attached as I just tried it with a couple of movies. The problem arises when I try to run ARC, which I must do as I have moved my seating position around and the distances have changed. Before running, I thought it would be a good time to update to the newest software: 50.25. Once that was successfully loaded, I then ran Arc and that is when i encountered the anomalies. On the page where I select the speakers to measure, my front mains are not checked off and I am not able to select them manually. I am also seeing in a window "two rears" which I don't have, since I only have a 5.1 system. All other speakers are checked off : Center, surrounds and Sub. The ARC software is 3.0.2. Somehow I doubt it is a communications issue since Arc opens normally and the only difference is that the options are not what they used to be. I previously was able to select and/or deselect the speakers I wanted to measure. Also, I was able to update the receiver using the same cables.
As noted earlier, my software reads:
MCU FW==50.25
VIDEO====50.12
DSP1=====40.01
DSP2======50.04
MM========1.1.0

Hi Atabea,

I missed the software version of ARC in your last post. Version 3.0.2 should be fine and 50.25 is also good.

I would, just to be on the safe side, re-seat your serial cable and USB adapter cables. Of note, the firmware update is much easier to perform, it does not push the serial connection as hard as ARC does and it does not use as many Serial Interface features. This is why people can often upgrade the firmware with a USB adapter that is not recommended and then find they can not run ARC. So always worth checking all of your connections to make sure they are solid.

Also, make sure to reboot the system you are on.

Next, can you post a pic of the Targets window where you select the speakers you want? I'm not 100% sure I'm fully understanding what it is trying to force on you. Do you have a sub? Does ARC show that it plans to run sweeps on a Sub?

Also, you might try simply running the Quick Setup on the MRX to make sure it knows all of the speakers your system has. ARC should override this, but can't hurt.
post #12890 of 16457
Hi Tigger, I did all of the above at least twice but no breakthroughs yet. When I open ARC, i get the screen where it gives the option to "select peakers to measure." In this screen, Surrounds, Rear/ Heights, Subwoofer and Center are checked off. I am able to select/deselect these as desired. Unfortunately, "Fronts" is greyed out and I am not able to manually select them. When I last used arc, the fronts were automatically checked off. Right next to Rear/Heights, there is a dropdown box where "Two Rear" appears in the window. If I click on this drop-down I get the option for "one Rear" and "height." I do not have any height or rear speakers (just the ytpical 5.1 with LCR, Sub and Surrounds at about 110 degrees). What I want to accomplish is to deselect the height and rear speaker option and to be able to select the fronts. Otherwise, everything else is fine..This is driving me nuts.

atabea
post #12891 of 16457
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Originally Posted by atabea View Post

Hi Tigger, I did all of the above at least twice but no breakthroughs yet. When I open ARC, i get the screen where it gives the option to "select peakers to measure." In this screen, Surrounds, Rear/ Heights, Subwoofer and Center are checked off. I am able to select/deselect these as desired. Unfortunately, "Fronts" is greyed out and I am not able to manually select them. When I last used arc, the fronts were automatically checked off. Right next to Rear/Heights, there is a dropdown box where "Two Rear" appears in the window. If I click on this drop-down I get the option for "one Rear" and "height." I do not have any height or rear speakers (just the ytpical 5.1 with LCR, Sub and Surrounds at about 110 degrees). What I want to accomplish is to deselect the height and rear speaker option and to be able to select the fronts. Otherwise, everything else is fine..This is driving me nuts.
atabea

I would contact Anthem as this is very weird.
John
post #12892 of 16457
Thanks Jayray, I called Anthem and left a message for someone to return my call. Just curious, has anyone else seen the screen I am seeing? Particularly the drop down window with the "two rear" option that doesn't let you select none if you don't have any such speakers?

thanks
atabea
post #12893 of 16457
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Originally Posted by jayray View Post

I would contact Anthem as this is very weird.
John

+1 Can't say I have ever seen anything like this on the forum or experienced anything like this my self. frown.gif
post #12894 of 16457
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Originally Posted by atabea View Post

Hi Tigger, I did all of the above at least twice but no breakthroughs yet. When I open ARC, i get the screen where it gives the option to "select peakers to measure." In this screen, Surrounds, Rear/ Heights, Subwoofer and Center are checked off. I am able to select/deselect these as desired. Unfortunately, "Fronts" is greyed out and I am not able to manually select them. When I last used arc, the fronts were automatically checked off. Right next to Rear/Heights, there is a dropdown box where "Two Rear" appears in the window. If I click on this drop-down I get the option for "one Rear" and "height." I do not have any height or rear speakers (just the ytpical 5.1 with LCR, Sub and Surrounds at about 110 degrees). What I want to accomplish is to deselect the height and rear speaker option and to be able to select the fronts. Otherwise, everything else is fine..This is driving me nuts.
atabea

Hi atabea,

I think you've got the logic back to front - the fronts are selected (and greyed so that you can not deselect - you must have at minimum Left & Right fronts). The others are initially all selected, but not greyed - as you have to be able to select/deselect as appropriate for your setup. You need to deselect the Rears/Heights - not using the drop-down, using the checkbox, as you have a 5.1 system (just like mine).
I can't actually check this now as I do not have my laptop connected to the MRX - but I've run ARC so many times recently.
So to re-iterate, ARC sets all speakers as selected by default - you just have to 'deselect' Rears/Heights - then select the number of measurements and start the sweeps.
Regards, Mike.
post #12895 of 16457
Hey Anthem owners. I am about to upgrade my from my Meridian 561M and have pretty much decided to go with one of the MRX models as the replacement. The idea is to use the AVR as a pre/pro for my front and center channel speakers and the internal amp for the surrounds. The fronts (B&W N802's) are being powered by a MC352 and the center is being powered by a MC2255. Which MRX do y'all recommend?
post #12896 of 16457
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Originally Posted by AuburnM5 View Post

Hey Anthem owners. I am about to upgrade my from my Meridian 561M and have pretty much decided to go with one of the MRX models as the replacement. The idea is to use the AVR as a pre/pro for my front and center channel speakers and the internal amp for the surrounds. The fronts (B&W N802's) are being powered by a MC352 and the center is being powered by a MC2255. Which MRX do y'all recommend?

No point in going above the MRX300 unless your listening area is huge, there will be at least 80 watts per channel for the surrounds which should be more than enough.

I have an MRX500 but without any extra amplification - runs my 7 speaker setup very well, though in a smallish room.
post #12897 of 16457
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Originally Posted by mpauline View Post

Having to unplug it when it constantly freezes when switching source material is ridiculous.
Yes it is. That's why they came out with a firmware update a while back that resolved this issue.
post #12898 of 16457
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Originally Posted by jonalan0323 View Post

Yes it is. That's why they came out with a firmware update a while back that resolved this issue.

Okay don't I feel like an idiot! Just downloaded the new firmware update so will see how things go.
post #12899 of 16457
Hi guys,

I have placed an order for SVS SB12-NSD and should be here in 10 days.

I have looked throughout this thread, but could not find an answer. Is it possible to put this sub on Flat in ARC?

These are responses from audioholics, and based on them what is your oppinion?



Thanks
post #12900 of 16457
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Originally Posted by Jare View Post

Hi guys,
I have placed an order for SVS SB12-NSD and should be here in 10 days.
I have looked throughout this thread, but could not find an answer. Is it possible to put this sub on Flat in ARC?
These are responses from audioholics, and based on them what is your oppinion?

Thanks

You can never tell until you put it in your room and see how well it does.
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