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Originally Posted by audit13 View Post

If you think it sounds good now, wait until ARC kicks in.
Why Yamaha did you have before?
One thing I found that told me how good this receiver is was this: using my MRX for a month, going back to my Onkyo for a few hours, and then going back to the MRX.

Yamaha rxv1800 it was rated @135x7 very good amp section IMHO ...I'm just using the analog connections from CD player to the 300 but I have not encountered the SQ or sonic problems as the other gentlemen......fwiw I haven't even connected my sub yet...will do... once the xmass tree is outta the way..rolleyes.gif
Edited by Billy p - 12/30/12 at 12:35pm
post #13112 of 16452
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Originally Posted by salty777 View Post

Thanks again Audit. I plugged just the RCA into the sub's by-pass input. I set speakers as small, 80hz..... the subwoofer section was greyed out and marked "ON". Can't do anything there for some reason.
The dealer is adamant using ARC will improve things, but has offered to exchange it and I'm likely to go for the Intgra 50.4..... which I know is an Onkyo 818 but will cost me $500 more! Stupid, eh?? Unfortunately the dealer doesn't do Onkyo, and won't refund, so exchange is my only option. frown.gif

The choice is yours but I would give ARC a chance if possible.
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Originally Posted by Billy p View Post

Yamaha rxv1800 it was rated @135x7 very good amp section IMHO ...I'm just using the analog connections from CD player to the 300 but I have not encountered the SQ or sonic problems as the other gentlemen......fwiw I haven't even connected my sub yet...will do... once the xmass tree is outta the way..rolleyes.gif

I suggest using an all digital connection from the CD player to the MRX if possible.

I had a Yamaha 6080 for a couple of months. It was a loaner than I eventually had to give back. I was sad to see it go because it sounded so good. I found the Yamaha sounded much nicer than a Pioneer I had at the time.
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Originally Posted by rwheelwright View Post

Question for those of you that use vtuner. I finally hooked up and Ethernet cable and played around for a few. Everything I listened to sounded distorted. Anybody notice this? I don't listen to too much music down there but I was curious if anybody else noticed this.

Check that whether or not you have anything like anthem music or DD pro logic enabled. I noticed at one stage that they seemed to introduce a bit more distortion than using the None setting.
post #13115 of 16452
Anyone have a TV/PJ setup using a HDMI splitter with their Anthem? How does the Anthem play with the splitter?
post #13116 of 16452
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Originally Posted by Spurrier Sucks View Post

Anyone have a TV/PJ setup using a HDMI splitter with their Anthem? How does the Anthem play with the splitter?
I have a matrix HDMI switcher with a 30 ft run to the projector in the theater and a 15ft run to the TV in the family. I had to upgrade to a new cable which is a Slim Series High Performance HDMI w/ RedMere from monoprice to get the projector to work with the Anthem http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10255 . With my previous receiver my old high speed category 2 cable worked fine with the matrix switcher but not with the Anthem.

BTW with my matrix switcher I had to make sure the projector was on the A output. On the B output I kept getting drop outs. My projector is a Mitsubishi HC3800 and it's known for being picky about cables and switches
post #13117 of 16452
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Originally Posted by Apgood View Post

Check that whether or not you have anything like anthem music or DD pro logic enabled. I noticed at one stage that they seemed to introduce a bit more distortion than using the None setting.
I did notice that anthem logic music was on by default. I thought I tried it with it off but I will go back and try again. It was obnoxiously loud and distorted at -35 which is weird since nothing else I play at that volume is loud including TV, CDs or BDs. Strange!
post #13118 of 16452
Is Dolby volume on? I was getting distortion at the Dolby volume default setting setting with movies. Once I disabled it everything was fine.
post #13119 of 16452
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Originally Posted by salty777 View Post

Hello all
My first post and I'm in need of some help.....! I'll be brief.....
Basically, I've been using an Onkyo 989 for the last 10 years or so. I decided to get "modern" (I really wanted to use HDMI to reduce clutter!) and did some research according to my available budget, and narrowed it down to the Onkyo 818 or the MRX300. I chose the 300 because of the good reviews, and I don't need networking or USB etc..... I have an Apple TV for all that.
I listened to the 700 which was on demo, and was really impressed. The dealer told me the differences between the 300 and 700 were networking, USB and more power..... but he also said for my room the 300 power would be more than enough.
I bought it yesterday and did a set-up, but did not run ARC as I'm waiting for a friend who has an old fashioned PC with RS232..... I use a Mac, and can't run the software (unless I partition and buy Windows!!).
After testing the radio, playing Avatar on BluRay, checking out some iTunes trailers and playing some of my own music I have to say I am very disappointed. The 989 literally blows the 300 away. The 300 is really, really soft. It has no slam, attack, whatever you want to call it. It's like it's not even trying to make my sub work as it can.
Unfortunately the dealer has a "no refund, no exchange on used" policy.... I expect he'll consider my unit used, though only for a few hours.
I can't see that running ARC will make much of a difference. The problem is lack of power.... it just doesn't have any oomph, and that translates into a really tepid listening experience at home, far different to what I experienced with the 700 demo in the dealers store.
Do any of you have any tips, as it looks like I'm stuck with it?
Many thanks.... oh, and please don't offence at this "criticism" of Anthem..... it sounded great at the dealer..... I just can't get anything like that sound at home.

I had the exact same problem with my first MRX 300. My 20 years old 60W/channel Carver receiver was sounding way better than my MRX.
Luckily for me, my father has an MRX 300 so we were able to do a side by side comparison. Then it became obvious that my unit was defective.
We tried to fix the problem with a factory reset and a software update but it did not help at all. Then the next day, the receiver simply refused to power on.
I got a new replacement unit from the dealer and i’m an happy customer now, the MRX is up to the task ......... and the Carver is in the basement now !
post #13120 of 16452
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Originally Posted by Niavlys View Post

I had the exact same problem with my first MRX 300. My 20 years old 60W/channel Carver receiver was sounding way better than my MRX.
Luckily for me, my father has an MRX 300 so we were able to do a side by side comparison. Then it became obvious that my unit was defective.
We tried to fix the problem with a factory reset and a software update but it did not help at all. Then the next day, the receiver simply refused to power on.
I got a new replacement unit from the dealer and i’m an happy customer now, the MRX is up to the task ......... and the Carver is in the basement now !

Wow, that's great that you were able to determine your 300 was defective. Welcome to the world of ARC:)
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I've had mine for a year now. There were some challenges at first, but the 300 as a prepro is one of the better HT moves I've ever made. Especially since the dealer was having a 20% off sale.

and many thanks to the forum members on this thread that you see as regulars. Very helpful. Very grateful.
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Originally Posted by Crescent View Post

I've had mine for a year now. There were some challenges at first, but the 300 as a prepro is one of the better HT moves I've ever made. Especially since the dealer was having a 20% off sale.
and many thanks to the forum members on this thread that you see as regulars. Very helpful. Very grateful.

Did you try out your 300 as an avr before adding an external amp? I'm just curious as to the improvements an external amp made in the overall scheme.
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Originally Posted by audit13 View Post

Did you try out your 300 as an avr before adding an external amp? I'm just curious as to the improvements an external amp made in the overall scheme.

Well, I made a weak attempt at it. Due to a theater design flaw, the speaker cable, buried behind trim, does not reach the top AV rack where the MRX resides. I have a Rotel RMB985 MKII which delivers a true 125 W per channel. I'm pretty happy with the sound, so I decided not to rearrange all the equipment to conduct the test.
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I think I read in Tigger's set up guide that the sub gain should be set to 2/3 before running ARC. What if this is deemed too loud? I used to have a Denon receiver and ended up having to physically reduce the gain to 1/3 because Audyssey maxed out at -12. I'd then have to run Audyssey again. Does the same process apply with ARC? If so, what does it max out at?

Thanks
post #13125 of 16452
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Originally Posted by Canary_Jules View Post

I think I read in Tigger's set up guide that the sub gain should be set to 2/3 before running ARC. What if this is deemed too loud? I used to have a Denon receiver and ended up having to physically reduce the gain to 1/3 because Audyssey maxed out at -12. I'd then have to run Audyssey again. Does the same process apply with ARC? If so, what does it max out at?
Thanks

Yes, it the sub is too loud, it will appear as such in the speaker level settings. You can then go and reduce the sub's volume control and run ARC again. I ran ARC a few times in order to adjust my sub's placement, speaker placement, and sub volume.
post #13126 of 16452
Thanks. Well having just switched from a Denon 2113 to the MRX 300 I just left my sub in the same 1/3 position as before and ran ARC. It's showing the Sub level as -1. So I presume that it's right first time.

I do notice, however, that ARC changed my crossovers. I have Teufel THX select 2 certified F,C,R speakers and Ultra certified dipole surrounds. I set them all to 80 hz to begin with. ARC has now set the left and right fronts to 60hz, the centre to 100hz and the surrounds to 80hz. Does this sound like a reasonable adjustment? 80hz is the THX recommendation isn't it?
post #13127 of 16452
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Originally Posted by Canary_Jules View Post

Thanks. Well having just switched from a Denon 2113 to the MRX 300 I just left my sub in the same 1/3 position as before and ran ARC. It's showing the Sub level as -1. So I presume that it's right first time.
I do notice, however, that ARC changed my crossovers. I have Teufel THX select 2 certified F,C,R speakers and Ultra certified dipole surrounds. I set them all to 80 hz to begin with. ARC has now set the left and right fronts to 60hz, the centre to 100hz and the surrounds to 80hz. Does this sound like a reasonable adjustment? 80hz is the THX recommendation isn't it?

ARC is quite intelligent so I wouldn't play with the crossover settings chosen during set up. Other owners may have a different opinion on the matter.

A sub level of -1 is quite acceptable.

Publish your results/charts and I'm sure you will get some useful feedback from other members.
post #13128 of 16452
Ok, so here are my ARC files.


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What about your speaker levels?
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Front Left 0, Centre -1, Front Right +2, Surr Right 0, Surr Left 0, Sub -2, Aux Right 0, Aux Left 0

Is that what you need?

Thanks
post #13131 of 16452
Hi

I've been running a MRX700 for about a 1.5 years now , If I add a power amp to my system will it improve the sound , as sometimes I find it hard to understand some dialogue through my center speaker , how do I know if I have enough power to drive all my speakers , when I watch movies my volume is about -16 to -12

My speakers are as follows

Fronts studio 60

Center studio C690

Side studio ADP590

Rears studio 20

Sub 3400 x 2

Thanks in advance
post #13132 of 16452
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Originally Posted by Canary_Jules View Post

Front Left 0, Centre -1, Front Right +2, Surr Right 0, Surr Left 0, Sub -2, Aux Right 0, Aux Left 0
Is that what you need?
Thanks

Your levels are quite good and well-matched. I think the measurements look fine for the rest of your speakers; however, your sub doesn't seem to go that deep. For comparison, I attached my sub measurement. I could probably do better in the sub range too.

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Agree on the sub. I had a similar graph and upgraded from an older REL sub to the Paradigm Sub 15. My sub graph now looks very similar to the one in Audit13's post above. Of course you can start with moving your sub around the room to a better location before investing in new equipment. Good luck!
post #13134 of 16452
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Originally Posted by Canary_Jules View Post

Thanks. Well having just switched from a Denon 2113 to the MRX 300 I just left my sub in the same 1/3 position as before and ran ARC. It's showing the Sub level as -1. So I presume that it's right first time.
I do notice, however, that ARC changed my crossovers. I have Teufel THX select 2 certified F,C,R speakers and Ultra certified dipole surrounds. I set them all to 80 hz to begin with. ARC has now set the left and right fronts to 60hz, the centre to 100hz and the surrounds to 80hz. Does this sound like a reasonable adjustment? 80hz is the THX recommendation isn't it?

Forgot to mention that you should make sure your MRX is running the latest firmware from the Anthem website.
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Thanks for your replies. I'll download the latest firmware.

I'm having a little trouble interpreting the graphs (as a calibrator video is really my thing!). So you can tell that the sub doesn't go very low because it registers 90 at 20hz? Is that correct? My sub (a BK XLS 200) is presently situated in a corner of my room. Is shifting it about and using the quick measure the best way forward? To be honest I've been a bit frustrated with the lack of bass (once it's dialled in) with my past few receivers (primarily Denons running Audyssey, but also a Pioneer with MCACC). Perhaps I need a better sub?
post #13136 of 16452
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Originally Posted by Canary_Jules View Post

Thanks for your replies. I'll download the latest firmware.
I'm having a little trouble interpreting the graphs (as a calibrator video is really my thing!). So you can tell that the sub doesn't go very low because it registers 90 at 20hz? Is that correct? My sub (a BK XLS 200) is presently situated in a corner of my room. Is shifting it about and using the quick measure the best way forward? To be honest I've been a bit frustrated with the lack of bass (once it's dialled in) with my past few receivers (primarily Denons running Audyssey, but also a Pioneer with MCACC). Perhaps I need a better sub?

Based on your graph, your sub's output starts rolling off around 60 hz as it approaches 20 hz. On my sub chart, the line is flatter between 20 and 60 when compared to yours.

Did you disable your sub's onboard crossover? How about adjusting the phase?

Sorry, I'm not familiar with your sub but moving it around may help.
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Presumably, when I update the firmware I'll need to run ARC again? Does it wipe the settings?
post #13138 of 16452
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Originally Posted by Canary_Jules View Post

Presumably, when I update the firmware I'll need to run ARC again? Does it wipe the settings?

Updating the firmware does not require you to re-run ARC.

You might want to compare your firmware to the firmware revision on the Anthem website before updating.
post #13139 of 16452
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Originally Posted by audit13 View Post

Based on your graph, your sub's output starts rolling off around 60 hz as it approaches 20 hz. On my sub chart, the line is flatter between 20 and 60 when compared to yours.
Did you disable your sub's onboard crossover?
Sorry, I'm not familiar with your sub but moving it around may help.

Yes, it's disabled. The BK subs are UK produced - XLS200 page on manufacturer website here
post #13140 of 16452
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Originally Posted by Canary_Jules View Post

Yes, it's disabled. The BK subs are UK produced - XLS200 page on manufacturer website here

I didn't see a manual on the website but I assume you disable it by using a switch or turning the crossover knob to the "off" or "disabled" position. Is the phase set to zero?
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