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post #13591 of 16452
Hi All

Just wanted to add my MRX500 arc results for new new living room setup.
My speakers are Zaph ZA5.5 fronts, ZA5.3c centre and ZA5.2 rears which took far to long to finish smile.gif
Subs are 2x Sealed Dayton RS315's... I Built them using Ikea cupboards with 25mm mdf linings inside so they blend in with the entertainment unit made of the same Ikea cupboards. They are running full range with a fan modded EP4000 amp. As they are sealed subs and I don't listen at very high volumes I set Arc to flat, which seems to be OK - unless I'm watching a Christopher Nolan film eek.gif

Unfortunately my room is almost all hard surfaces and lots of windows - so you can see the massive peak which corresponds with my 6 metre room depth.. Still ARC seems to be doing OK and it sounds awesome - but I'm biased smile.gif

































Edited by megame - 2/12/13 at 1:51am
post #13592 of 16452
I can't help you with your graphs, but that's beautiful!
post #13593 of 16452
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Originally Posted by dmpavs View Post

Strange, I tried my PS3 and now it says 2.0 on MRX and there IS center sound like its in DD 5.1...I don't get it. Why doesn't it register it as Dolby Digital 5.1 on Anthem?
Press the "Audio" button on your remote and what does it say? Or if you go to your listening presets in the Anthem menu for that source, it will show you what it is doing to each type of input.
If you are getting centre channel sound from 2.0, it is likely set to AnthemLogic-Movie.
post #13594 of 16452
Yes I did have it in Anthem movie mode, BUT why doesn't it go into DD 5.1 If the content is in 5.1? I have had the Center not playing when selecting other modes but turned off and then back on and it was. I don't know if this is part of a problem that people were talking about syncing up with Oppo? Maybe I'm just missing something.
post #13595 of 16452
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Originally Posted by dmpavs View Post

Yes I did have it in Anthem movie mode, BUT why doesn't it go into DD 5.1 If the content is in 5.1? I have had the Center not playing when selecting other modes but turned off and then back on and it was. I don't know if this is part of a problem that people were talking about syncing up with Oppo? Maybe I'm just missing something.

Your anthem gives you the ability within your listening mode presets to override 5.1 Dolby Digital with another surround format, or "None". This is set up for each Source. If you always want Dolby 5.1 for a particular source, make sure it says "None".
post #13596 of 16452
It sounds like the MRX is receiving a 2 channel signal. The MRX display the incoming signal so if your seeing 2.0 PCM or Multi channel it sounds like the player is not bit streaming. If the player is bit streaming the MRX should show the incoming Dolby 5.1 signal as Dolby D 3/2 . If it's showing multichannel on Dolby 5.1 then it's thinks the player in doing the processing and sending PCM.

Also Anthem movie & music only work with a 2.0 signal so the Anthem was getting a 2 channel signal. How is the Oppo connect to the MRX? Is it connected over HDMI? One more thing to look at, could the Oppo's Down Mix Mode be set to 2 channels instead of 5.1 or 7.1?

I also just noticed this in your Oppo manual. Any chance your video is set to something lower than 720p?
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If you use HDMI to connect audio to an HDMI A/V receiver or audio processor, it is important that you choose 720p or higher HDMI output resolution when playing high resolution audio content (DVD-Audio, SACD, Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio).

According to the HDMI specification, the bandwidth available for audio is proportional to the total bandwidth used by S E T U P M E N U O P T I O N S 63 video. At 480p/576p resolution, the HDMI specification can only support 2 channels of audio with high sample rate (up to 192kHz), or 8 channels of audio with standard sample rate (up to 48kHz).

If you play high resolution audio content at the 480p/576p resolution, you may get reduced audio resolution, incomplete audio channels, or even no audio/video output at all. Choosing a higher output resolution such as 720p or above allows enough bandwidth for all
high sample rate audio channels.

Edited by Legairre - 2/12/13 at 12:16pm
post #13597 of 16452
Scirica, I did have them all set to modes....Ill switch it to none and see if it changes.

Legairre, The Oppo is connected via HDMI okay Ill check my menu setup and see what its at...I know I have played Avengers bluray and it was fine with all channels and very good sound.

Thanks guys! will check after a bit and let you know what it is
post #13598 of 16452
Thanks dmpavs, you said Avengers had good sound but did the display read DTS-HD MSTR or multi channel?
post #13599 of 16452
Avengers was DTS HD MSTR as did Star Trek 2009 but on that one I did NOT have center speaker sound...I also looked last night and my Oppo said MLTCH but im finishing up some work and Ill check in a bit
post #13600 of 16452
OK thanks so if Avengers displayed DTS HD MSTR then your Oppo is bitstreaming. For some reason though when playing Star trek 2009(TrueHD) it's displaying Multi Channel on the MRX? If so that sounds like the Oppo is outputting LPCM. OK I'm confused. It's either has to be outputting bitstream or LPCM, but it can't switch on the fly.

Any chance you were trying different settings on the Oppo and switched to LPCM when Star Trek displayed Multi Channel on the MRX?
Edited by Legairre - 2/12/13 at 2:03pm
post #13601 of 16452
Legairre, the Star Trek movie displayed the DTS HD or Dolby HD whichever one it uses I cant recall and it did display that on MRX, however it did NOT have center channel sound, so I put i Avengers to see if it worked and it did...very weird I know. The Oppo said multichannel last night and so did the MRX but as Scirica mentioned, it could be that I need to switch it to NONE.
post #13602 of 16452
Okay, somehow my Oppo was switched to Auto. Pretty sure I had it on Bitstream before so not sure. Also, I set the DD 5.1 to NONE and now all is working well. Sound is much improved too. I'm glad and grateful for everyone on this forum for getting set up....was beginning to remind me of the UMC setup days for a bit. I'll try the LOTR movie again to be sure.
post #13603 of 16452
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Originally Posted by Legairre View Post

It won't really matter since you're not using "through" on the MRX, but I would probably choose 720p or 1080i just because I hate 480i. I know it's not a logical reason it's just me being me smile.gif
Thanks again legairre..I tryed 480i from cable box to Mrx the pic was not very good,went back to 1080i to Mrx so it can process up to 1080 p..much,much better! Great picture
Thanks again for your input!
post #13604 of 16452
Sooo..I'm trying different methods for CD playback,I have a Cambridge audio 550 CD player hooked up to a Cambridge audio dacmagic with the upgraded power supply,using straight wire crescendo analog interconnects,and a straight wire level 3 digital cable,all with pangae ac9 power cords..a small fortune, sigh...I hooked it all up thru the Mrx using analog..with arc off..the sound was great..not amazing..then tryed the same CD using my oppo 103 using a audioquest coffee HDMI into Mrx with arc on..very good sound..about a tie..anyway just a observation...I would hate to sell my DAC,power supply and cables..but it just might be happening!..and there only three months old..( sigh).. The price we pay for arc..but its a great tradeoff for movies!
post #13605 of 16452
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Originally Posted by esh516 View Post

Sooo..I'm trying different methods for CD playback,I have a Cambridge audio 550 CD player hooked up to a Cambridge audio dacmagic with the upgraded power supply,using straight wire crescendo analog interconnects,and a straight wire level 3 digital cable,all with pangae ac9 power cords..a small fortune, sigh...I hooked it all up thru the Mrx using analog..with arc off..the sound was great..not amazing..then tryed the same CD using my oppo 103 using a audioquest coffee HDMI into Mrx with arc on..very good sound..about a tie..anyway just a observation...I would hate to sell my DAC,power supply and cables..but it just might be happening!..and there only three months old..( sigh).. The price we pay for arc..but its a great tradeoff for movies!

Why not just buy a cambridge 650A for your music needs and use the anthem for movies and tv? If I buy an mrx this is the route I might go if I'm not happy with the anthem for music, seeing how you already all in with a nice dac and CD player might as well just get the stereo amp and have the best of both.
post #13606 of 16452
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Originally Posted by dmpavs View Post

Okay, somehow my Oppo was switched to Auto. Pretty sure I had it on Bitstream before so not sure. Also, I set the DD 5.1 to NONE and now all is working well. Sound is much improved too. I'm glad and grateful for everyone on this forum for getting set up....was beginning to remind me of the UMC setup days for a bit. I'll try the LOTR movie again to be sure.
Hey glad everything worked. Nice to know you're up and running.
post #13607 of 16452
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Originally Posted by esh516 View Post

Thanks again legairre..I tryed 480i from cable box to Mrx the pic was not very good,went back to 1080i to Mrx so it can process up to 1080 p..much,much better! Great picture
Thanks again for your input!
Anytime, always happy to help.
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Originally Posted by esh516 View Post

Sooo..I'm trying different methods for CD playback,I have a Cambridge audio 550 CD player hooked up to a Cambridge audio dacmagic with the upgraded power supply,using straight wire crescendo analog interconnects,and a straight wire level 3 digital cable,all with pangae ac9 power cords..a small fortune, sigh...I hooked it all up thru the Mrx using analog..with arc off..the sound was great..not amazing..then tryed the same CD using my oppo 103 using a audioquest coffee HDMI into Mrx with arc on..very good sound..about a tie..anyway just a observation...I would hate to sell my DAC,power supply and cables..but it just might be happening!..and there only three months old..( sigh).. The price we pay for arc..but its a great tradeoff for movies!
I think Ryder125 may be onto something. Since the MRX is a digital receiver everything will go through the MRX DACs even if connected through an analog input so the analog and digital connections should sound the same. Also a few pages back some members said if you connect your CD through zone 2 you can bypass the MRX DACs and use your external DAC. http://www.avsforum.com/t/1289533/anthem-mrx-receivers-300-500-700-owners-thread-tweaking-guide/13400_50#post_22894377 Might be worth a try to see if you can hear a difference.
post #13608 of 16452
OK..well after further evaluations..don't waste your time with a hi end CD/DAC combo..I just listened to rush-moving pictures CD and loggins/Messina and foo fighters CD thru the oppo 103 using hi end HDMI cable with arc on..and um..well it completely wiped my CD/DAC combo away
By far the best sound I have ever had as far as CD playback is concerned..wow..time to sell CD/DAC and straight wire analog I.cs.heck the cables cost more than the Mrx!!!
But the oppo to Mrx is sonic bliss,depth detail..etc..I'm really surprised..OK on to led Zeppelin 4!
post #13609 of 16452
Oh crap...state of the union address is on every channel
Even the Mrx can't make that sound good..ha!
Back to the music...
post #13610 of 16452
Zone two using CD/DAC requires that you have another set of speakers into zone two..very inconvenient..
post #13611 of 16452
How is the Anthem MRX for music? Since I got better speakers been listening to music a lot more.
post #13612 of 16452
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Originally Posted by esh516 View Post

Zone two using CD/DAC requires that you have another set of speakers into zone two..very inconvenient..
Yeah I figured you would go for that(me either) , but I figured I throw it out there anyway. Sounds like you're enjoying your CDs with ARC now,cool.gif
post #13613 of 16452
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Originally Posted by Ryder125 View Post

How is the Anthem MRX for music? Since I got better speakers been listening to music a lot more.
I'm loving the MRX for music. It's great in 2 channel and Anthem Music mode really is all it's cracked up to be. It's not one of those reverb DSP modes. It uses the front L/R (no center so it can maintian the front soundstage)and a very little bit of the surrounds for ambiance. Really nice.
post #13614 of 16452
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Originally Posted by Legairre View Post

Hey glad everything worked. Nice to know you're up and running.

Well now I dont know what the hell is going on. I really have to say I DONT like the setup menu at all. NOW the Dolby Digital works but Im not getting DOBLY TRU HD or DTS MASTER? WTF am I doing wrong? Oppo set to bitstream
post #13615 of 16452
Is it different BD's? Some BD default to Dolby Digital or DTS and not DTS-HD MSTR or TrueHD and you have to go into the BD menu and pick "Languages" or "Audio setup" on the disc and choose DTS-HD MSTR or TrueHD. What BD are you using?
post #13616 of 16452
Was using Harry Potter Order of the Phoenix which is weird cuz you cant go to a normal menu with options...let me go try another one. I DID disconnect my surround speakers because we are moving into new house in a couple days, does that effect the TrueHD? I know right now it says Dolby D 3/2 but I think the True HD would do the same thing.
post #13617 of 16452
Thats what it was Legairre! Grrrr just coincidental I grab the only damn disc without a top menu. Anyhooo cant wait to use ARC!
post #13618 of 16452
Don't worry you're not crazy. I have HP Order of the Phoenix and it doesn't offer DTS-HD Master or TrueHD, it's Dolby Digital 5.1. Here's a link to the HP movies(scroll down a bit and you can click on each one and see the audio they offer). http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Harry-Potter-Years-1-7-Part-1-Gift-Set-Blu-ray/20378/

Most of the HPs are Dolby Digital. I think only the last two or three were released as DTS-HD Master. Also about 3-5 years ago a LOT of BD didn't have DTS-HD Master or TrueHD, some came with just Dolby Digital like HP. I know it sounds strange but BDs were released without HD audio. Also a good bit of the early Disney releases came as PCM only so you won't see DTS-HD Master or True HD on those either but PCM is HD audio without the DTS-HD Master or TrueHD wrapper to make transporting it from the player to the receiver a smaller data packet.

Think of DTS-HD Master or TrueHD as a wrapper that's compressed so it's smaller to transport from the player to the receiver and then uncompressed by the receiver and what's inside is just PCM.
post #13619 of 16452
Now that you mention it I do remember when TrueHD came out after the BluRay. It makes a world of difference IMO. My bad, I just got the HP BR set of all movies and forgot the older ones didn't have it. Now to decide if we are going with a projector in new HT area or if I should order my subwoofer and run ARC or is it too much harder to just add a sub after I've used ARC? I really really want a 100" screen. The Paradigm Studio's sound great matched with the Anthem...almost like they were made for each other...or wait..
post #13620 of 16452
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I'm loving the MRX for music. It's great in 2 channel and Anthem Music mode really is all it's cracked up to be. It's not one of those reverb DSP modes. It uses the front L/R (no center so it can maintian the front soundstage)and a very little bit of the surrounds for ambiance. Really nice.

Same here, in fact, the music SQ was the determining factor for my purchase (MRX-500); I am using it with an Outlaw 7500 (5X200W, using MRX for rear surrounds) amp. Whats nice is I got my Oppo 103 and Rotel RCD 1072 set up with different connection/listening modes for comparison options (HDMI, Coax)...they all sound great, in fact, there is not much difference until , I start doing different listening mode setups (2ch, multi channel, etc).. I will finally be setting up ARC in the next few days..
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