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post #14251 of 16451
Yeah, that sounds exactly what I need to do on my Windows 7 ultrabook. Last night I was using my wife's Vista laptop and whenever the mic connection was working, it was showing up as ARC-1 Anthem. The night before on my ultrabook, the mic would occasionally show-up, but it was not named properly. I'll give it a go when my replacement mic arrives. Anthem told me my dealer needs to order a replacment kit for me because it's still on warranty.
post #14252 of 16451
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Originally Posted by grasshoppers View Post

Sir John, congrats...finally!!! About your graphs all your speakers look pretty
Good. Your front. L/R seem to be experiencing a lot of boundry gain. Are they
Up against a wall or in a corner?? If so try moving them away from any walls
Or corners to smooth out the response. Your center and surrounds look excellent.

Your sub is gonna need some help from you. Your cut off was set at 80hz
Becuz it is dropping very quickly from 30hz to 80hz. We would like to see
A cutoff of 120hz. A flat graph from 30 to 120 is what we are looking for.

This can only be changed by moving the sub around to get a better looking
Graph. Refer back a few pages to see what we are trying to do. It can be
Very frustrating at times,hang in there.

Now, with what you have had to deal with just getting ARC to run don't
Sweat it until you have more reliable connections.

Thanks for the advice. I just have to mail my defective mic to my dealer a few hours north of Calgary, and he'll send me a replacement.

Yes, my fronts are near corners. I don't have a great deal of room to play, but after I get my new mic, I'll do what I can for them and the sub. Powered subs and available plug-ins, an annoying combination.
post #14253 of 16451
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Originally Posted by DadeH View Post

Can anyone offer guidance on setting up a mac for high resolution audio (24/96 or 24/192) with an Anthem MRX 500?

I have been streaming from iTunes via Apple TV and the sound is ok, but I want to bypass the Apple TV and use either PureMusic or Amarra as the engine within iTunes and send 24 bit high resolution music directly to the receiver.

My options out of the Mac are HDMI and USB and I know the USB input wont work. So I tried using an HDMI input from the Mac into the Anthem and it didn't work too well. The sound was super fast and sounded like chipmunks. I was streaming at 24/96 at the time, so I'm not sure the Anthem can handle 24/96 or 24/192, the user manual doesn't address this and Anthem support has been next to useless in guiding me. All I get from them is that there must be something wrong with my computer settings, but I cant find anything on the Mac to tweak to make it work.

Has anyone else had success streaming high res or setting up a computer audio system straight into the Anthem?

Thanks for any guidance!

How far is your Mac to your MRX? You should be able to connect via optical (with 3.5 mm optical adapter) and try that instead of HDMI. If you use PureMusic, you select the "Channel D" output from your output device list and that should give you more options in the Sound Preferences. I am also using Apple TV via HDMI, but I've got everything ripped to ALAC and just stream it from iTunes. Mac -> optical -> MRX worked for me, but the 50 foot cord was too much of an inconvenience to be worth it in my case.
post #14254 of 16451
Mitchpope

Thanks for the reply. I've been working on it and have solved the problem with hdmi. The trick was to plug the Mac into the hdmi port and then open the audio midi on the Mac. The hdmi shows up and can be configured for 24 bit and 96hz. Once completed I opened the amarra software and played some lossless tunes from my iTunes library. The software automatically switched the output back to 44.1 as the anthems DAC cannot handle faster sample rates. But in the end the sound was significantly better than iTunes without amarra and blows away streaming through apple tv. The downside is having to run an hdmi cable though. I don't have an optical out on my Mac so I can't compare how that would work. The ultimate would be a macmini music server in the bookshelf loaded with either amarra or audirvana plus (there are others too that I haven't tried)

Thanks again.
post #14255 of 16451
Are you sure there's no optical out on your Mac? In most, the headphone jack is also a mini optical output.
post #14256 of 16451
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Originally Posted by DadeH View Post

Mitchpope
The software automatically switched the output back to 44.1 as the anthems DAC cannot handle faster sample rates.

This is not true. The Anthem is capable of hanling at least 192kHz sample rate at 24 bit.

I routinely play 96kHz/24bit through my Squeezebox Classic, without problems.

Its not a limitation in the MRX thats making your software switch to 44.1.
post #14257 of 16451
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Originally Posted by KarVi View Post

This is not true. The Anthem is capable of hanling at least 192kHz sample rate at 24 bit.

I routinely play 96kHz/24bit through my Squeezebox Classic, without problems.

Its not a limitation in the MRX thats making your software switch to 44.1.
True, I've played 96/24 through a SB and 192/24 through my Oppo using DLNA.
post #14258 of 16451
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Originally Posted by KarVi View Post

This is not true. The Anthem is capable of hanling at least 192kHz sample rate at 24 bit.

I routinely play 96kHz/24bit through my Squeezebox Classic, without problems.

Its not a limitation in the MRX thats making your software switch to 44.1.

Hmm, I wonder why I am having trouble with it? I am running the output into one of the HDMI ports on the back of the Anthem. When I play 96 it sounds like a band of chipmunks, so I assumed that is why it automatically switches from 96 to 44.1 without me overriding it. Perhaps I am just misunderstanding how the software works. I believe it will upsample songs to the highest sample rate the DAC will allow regardless of the native format, but perhaps it is capped on the sample rate by the file format?

What inputs do you use for high resolution audio?

Saeyedoc: You may be right on the headphone jack. This is my first mac and I am not that familiar with them.

Back to investigating. Thanks all!
post #14259 of 16451
I have confirmed that Amarra does not upsample the file, but will merely switch the AMSU to play the native sample rate of each file. So, I will need to get an upsampled file to see how it compares to standard resolution.
post #14260 of 16451
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Originally Posted by DadeH View Post

What inputs do you use for high resolution audio?

I use optical SP-DIF/digital input for my squeezebox, but have also played high bitrate files through the HDMI inputs from PC, my Raspberry Pi, and my (now pensioned) WDTV Live.

I havent had any problems at all with it.
post #14261 of 16451
Finally had a chance to watch an entire movie for the first time. Wow, big improvement over my Denon. It's like a film has been pealed off my speakers and I'm hearing their full sonic potential for the first time. I think I've gotten all the settings figured out. Just curious if people prefer setting video to through, or if it's okay to leave it on Auto or 1080p for blu-rays?
post #14262 of 16451
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Originally Posted by SirJohnFalstaff View Post

Finally had a chance to watch an entire movie for the first time. Wow, big improvement over my Denon. It's like a film has been pealed off my speakers and I'm hearing their full sonic potential for the first time. I think I've gotten all the settings figured out. Just curious if people prefer setting video to through, or if it's okay to leave it on Auto or 1080p for blu-rays?

First off, awesome news that you got your setup to your satisfactions. I too am coming from Audyssey and mirror your thoughts. The only advantage my 2311 had so far was it's HDMI switching which was rock solid.

For video, I tried both, through and upscale and couldn't really discern any difference, so I left it ON and have it set to AUTO. I have a Panny plasma.
post #14263 of 16451
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Originally Posted by SirJohnFalstaff View Post

Finally had a chance to watch an entire movie for the first time. Wow, big improvement over my Denon. It's like a film has been pealed off my speakers and I'm hearing their full sonic potential for the first time. I think I've gotten all the settings figured out. Just curious if people prefer setting video to through, or if it's okay to leave it on Auto or 1080p for blu-rays?
If the source is already 1080p, the mrx doesn't do anything to the video signal except pass it through regardless of which setting you choose. For non-1080p video sources and the video output set to 1080p, the mrx will upconvert to 1080p.

I like 1080p since it displays the volume screen on my tv. Also, make sure to turn on film detection since you want BD played back at 1080p/24, not 1080p/60.
post #14264 of 16451
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Originally Posted by KarVi View Post

This is not true. The Anthem is capable of hanling at least 192kHz sample rate at 24 bit.

I routinely play 96kHz/24bit through my Squeezebox Classic, without problems.

Its not a limitation in the MRX thats making your software switch to 44.1.

The Squeezebox Classic can output 96/24 on it's digital out? I thought only the Squeezebox Touch could do that. With my Squeezebox v3, my 96/24 material is downsampled to 48/24 using sox on my server as its streamed to the player.

Regards,

Dan
post #14265 of 16451
Sorry my bad. I actually own both models, and play through the touch on my main system. It does 96kHz with no problems.

I don't know the limit for the classic/v3, it could possibly be 48kHz, I dont know as I use the build in converter, so I never see the samplerate.
post #14266 of 16451
Hi,

I've asked this question before, but received no response. Perhaps its so dumb, no one bothered. If that's the case, please tell me - I don't have thin skin in the least.

So, my question is just as it's been suggested that the sub should optimally cutover at 120, is a higher cutover desirable for other speakers as well - particularly the fronts? If so, how could one strive to make that occur?

Thanks!
post #14267 of 16451
ARC will calculate the crossover for your speakers when it runs it's measurements but you can override these. If it sets the crossover for your sub to be 80hz you can change it to 100hz but how the speakers are placed in your room/ distance from walls and acoustic treatment can help with the calculated crossover. Have you read the post about determing optimum position for your sub? Place the sub in your normal listening position and place the microphone in various positions in your room and run ARC for each position and look at the results - it's listed in the FAQs in post #1.
post #14268 of 16451
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Originally Posted by mhuk View Post

ARC will calculate the crossover for your speakers when it runs it's measurements but you can override these. If it sets the crossover for your sub to be 80hz you can change it to 100hz but how the speakers are placed in your room/ distance from walls and acoustic treatment can help with the calculated crossover. Have you read the post about determing optimum position for your sub? Place the sub in your normal listening position and place the microphone in various positions in your room and run ARC for each position and look at the results - it's listed in the FAQs in post #1.

My sub is cutting over at 120, so I'm good there. But what I am asking, is let's say ARC sets cutover for fronts at 60. Is that any less desirable than if they cutover at 100?
post #14269 of 16451
If you set the crossover to 100hz for your fronts they'll be working less hard as the sub will taking over below 100hz. Did you set the size for your fronts to small before running ARC (if you want a higher crossover).

You do mean crossover when you say "cutting over"?
post #14270 of 16451
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Originally Posted by mhuk View Post

If you set the crossover to 100hz for your fronts they'll be working less hard as the sub will taking over below 100hz. Did you set the size for your fronts to small before running ARC (if you want a higher crossover).

You do mean crossover when you say "cutting over"?

My fronts are auto set to "small". I meant cut-off. Sorry.
So, what you are saying is that at a lower "cut-off" setting, the speakers in question e.g. the fronts are working harder at lower frequencies. Which to my perspective would be good, as then the sub is only taking care of the lower frequencies as it should.
post #14271 of 16451
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Originally Posted by dacaesar View Post

My fronts are auto set to "small". I meant cut-off. Sorry.
So, what you are saying is that at a lower "cut-off" setting, the speakers in question e.g. the fronts are working harder at lower frequencies. Which to my perspective would be good, as then the sub is only taking care of the lower frequencies as it should.

First off, the sub - ideally ARC should set it to 120Hz, as the LFE channel that only goes to the sub can contain sounds up to 120Hz. But, ARC will only set 120Hz if the subs in room response is smooth up to at least 120Hz, any big dips may lead to a lower setting. As advised - you may be able to force ARC to use 120Hz, if the offending dips are not too deep - try it and see.
Next the other speakers - even big floorstanding towers will probably not be as capable as a good sub-woofer at producing powerful bass - and the MRX power-amps will be working really hard to drive high outputs at low frequencies. Also the sub can be positioned where it gives the best bass output (deep, loud, and more importantly smooth over its working range), whereas the other speakers should be positioned for imaging & alignment.
The best crossover for main speakers is one that doesn't tax your amplifier too much, but does ensure that the sub is not localisable. Frequencies above approx. 80Hz become more directional, but many people use crossovers of 100Hz without issue. I aim for something around 60 - 80Hz, but I don't drive my system to really high levels - so my small towers are fine down to 60Hz (and 80Hz sounds good as well).

Bit rambling, but may help, regards, Mike
post #14272 of 16451
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Originally Posted by dacaesar View Post

My sub is cutting over at 120, so I'm good there. But what I am asking, is let's say ARC sets cutover for fronts at 60. Is that any less desirable than if they cutover at 100?

No, what ARC set for you is very desirable.
post #14273 of 16451
So I ran ARC for a second time after being pretty disappointed with the sound of my Center. It seems to have corrected some things this time around and sounds better so far. I will say, the CC-490 and the size of the room is probably part of the issue. Sound can be very good but I do have to set the Center up about 3db. Even at that, I noticed the recordings can seem so up and down nowadays. I believe this is just part of the studio recordings, it drives me nuts with some content though. Overall, its an improvement from what I was at. Also, I am thinking the sound should improve with the addition of a subwoofer. I'd like to hear other people's thoughts on their center sound consistency.
post #14274 of 16451
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Originally Posted by dmpavs View Post

So I ran ARC for a second time after being pretty disappointed with the sound of my Center. It seems to have corrected some things this time around and sounds better so far. I will say, the CC-490 and the size of the room is probably part of the issue. Sound can be very good but I do have to set the Center up about 3db. Even at that, I noticed the recordings can seem so up and down nowadays. I believe this is just part of the studio recordings, it drives me nuts with some content though. Overall, its an improvement from what I was at. Also, I am thinking the sound should improve with the addition of a subwoofer. I'd like to hear other people's thoughts on their center sound consistency.
That's weird about your center. From the first time I ran ARC, the centre channel has blended nicely with my fronts with no need to boost the levels, regardless of whether I am watching a movie or listening to multichannel audio.
post #14275 of 16451
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Originally Posted by dmpavs View Post

So I ran ARC for a second time after being pretty disappointed with the sound of my Center. It seems to have corrected some things this time around and sounds better so far. I will say, the CC-490 and the size of the room is probably part of the issue. Sound can be very good but I do have to set the Center up about 3db. Even at that, I noticed the recordings can seem so up and down nowadays. I believe this is just part of the studio recordings, it drives me nuts with some content though. Overall, its an improvement from what I was at. Also, I am thinking the sound should improve with the addition of a subwoofer. I'd like to hear other people's thoughts on their center sound consistency.

I would like to see a pic of the CC and where it is situated in your room.

Also regarding your last few posts concerning the center didnt show up with ARC (altho you posted a pic of the graph with the center right there)
how did you manage to "fix" this?
post #14276 of 16451
Yosh, it didn't show on the chart initially when I looked at the file. I did find it in there but decided to re-run ARC for improvements. This is the room but we are getting the projector in a week or so and so the Center will be in the middle on top of the stand by itself and obviously no tv.

Also the bass is quite good without a sub, though I will get one anyways. I can't image it with a lot more though.
post #14277 of 16451
I discovered that with anything but 'Through' selected in the video settings, when my Oppo BDP-103 is displaying the home screen, I get HDMI drop-outs. With 'Through' selected, the signal is stable. this seems to only affect the home screen and does not offure when watching the avtual movie. Anyone experience this?
post #14278 of 16451
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Originally Posted by dmpavs View Post

Yosh, it didn't show on the chart initially when I looked at the file. I did find it in there but decided to re-run ARC for improvements. This is the room but we are getting the projector in a week or so and so the Center will be in the middle on top of the stand by itself and obviously no tv.

Also the bass is quite good without a sub, though I will get one anyways. I can't image it with a lot more though.



I think you may be surprised on how much your set up will benefit from a sub....just my 2 cents...
post #14279 of 16451
Any word on anthem putting out a new receiver or revised ARC software anytime soon? I'm pretty happy with my MRX300, but I still have a wish list of things I'm hoping they address in their next model. The current lineup has been out for a few years IIRC....they've gotta at least have something baking.
post #14280 of 16451
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Originally Posted by bd2003 View Post

Any word on anthem putting out a new receiver or revised ARC software anytime soon? I'm pretty happy with my MRX300, but I still have a wish list of things I'm hoping they address in their next model. The current lineup has been out for a few years IIRC....they've gotta at least have something baking.

I'd be interested to see your "wish list". Would have made this an even better contribution!
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