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post #2821 of 14621
3/17/11 at 6:08am
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Originally Posted by Litlgi74 View Post

Now for something I know very little about... My "Quick Measures" of Subwoofer placement around my listening room...

Based on these... what would you expect to give the best overall FR? My wife will kill me if I have to run ARC on all the places in question.... And I will probably go out of my mind.

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Three more:

Thanks for your help.

I would pick 7 or 8. These look a lot better than your original sub charts. Congratulations!!!!!!
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3/17/11 at 6:51am
Now this is getting frustrating.... did it get worse?
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post #2823 of 14621
3/17/11 at 6:53am
Theses are the charts before and after the move...
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3/17/11 at 7:00am
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Originally Posted by Litlgi74 View Post

Now this is getting frustrating.... did it get worse?

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Theses are the charts before and after the move...

Not to me. Your charts look pretty good to me. Why do you think it got worse?
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post #2825 of 14621
3/17/11 at 7:23am
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Originally Posted by ninja12 View Post

Not to me. Your charts look pretty good to me. Why do you think it got worse?

Am I not still losing out on the 50-70Hz range... -4dB. Prior to the move I was get similar results in that range and only loss 2...

I am going to give it a listen... but why does the 2nd look better than the 1st to you?
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post #2826 of 14621
3/17/11 at 7:31am
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Originally Posted by Litlgi74 View Post

Theses are the charts before and after the move...

The range from 100 to 60 Hz is a lot better so you will get more "kick drum" impact and that you will notice.
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post #2827 of 14621
3/17/11 at 8:27am
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Originally Posted by Litlgi74 View Post

Am I not still losing out on the 50-70Hz range... -4dB. Prior to the move I was get similar results in that range and only loss 2...

I am going to give it a listen... but why does the 2nd look better than the 1st to you?

Your raw response is only down 3db from 50 Hz to 60 Hz; but, that's nothing to worry about. +/- 3db is considered to be flat. Anyway, look at the green calculated curve. You will see that ARC took care of that for you. One other thing, check to see if your sub has built-in circuit protection. If it does, then change "Auto" to "Flat" for your sub, and then look at your sub chart. You will only have to recalculate and upload if you make the change and like what you see.

Definitely listen to what you have now before changing to "Flat" so you will have something to compare against. Congratulations again. You have come a long way with your sub from your original sub posting.
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post #2828 of 14621
3/17/11 at 11:06am
Are the MRX using USB 2.0 or are they 3.0 compliant?
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post #2829 of 14621
3/17/11 at 11:09am
I'm looking to move away from my Pioneer Elite and pick up a MRX 300.

Current Setup:

Room: 10*18*8
I'm currently running my Pioneer VSX01 through an Emotiva UPA7. Font speakers are Paradigm Studio20 v5 and cc590v5
Rears(x4) are Monitor Audio.

I'm about 6ft away from the speakers all around. I do not listen at reference level. With my speakers set to 75db I'm usually listening at -15 on the receiver. Once I get under 10 it's too loud and I'll bother the neighbors.

That being said my questions are:

1. Should I buy the MRX 300 and keep the UPA7
2. Will the MRX 300 alone be enough to power my setup
2. Should I spend more and run JUST the MRX 500
3. As far as DACs/ARC and everything hardware (besides the amps) the 300/500/700 are the same? Internals..don't care for the HD radio and the other whistles

I've never heard ARC but seeing how i'm not liking the MCACC and don't feel like spending 2k for MultiXT32

I'm sold on the Anthem.
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post #2830 of 14621
3/17/11 at 11:29am
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Originally Posted by JimmyLeggs View Post

I'm looking to move away from my Pioneer Elite and pick up a MRX 300.

Current Setup:

Room: 10*18*8
I'm currently running my Pioneer VSX01 through an Emotiva UPA7. Font speakers are Paradigm Studio20 v5 and cc590v5
Rears(x4) are Monitor Audio.

I'm about 6ft away from the speakers all around. I do not listen at reference level. With my speakers set to 75db I'm usually listening at -15 on the receiver. Once I get under 10 it's too loud and I'll bother the neighbors.

That being said my questions are:

1. Should I buy the MRX 300 and keep the UPA7
2. Will the MRX 300 alone be enough to power my setup
2. Should I spend more and run JUST the MRX 500
3. As far as DACs/ARC and everything hardware (besides the amps) the 300/500/700 are the same? Internals..don't care for the HD radio and the other whistles

I've never heard ARC but seeing how i'm not liking the MCACC and don't feel like spending 2k for MultiXT32

I'm sold on the Anthem.

Your speakers will run fine using the 300 in that size room. All else in this receiver will be similar to the 500 and 700 internals. If you have a lower freq. capable sub, you'll like what ARC will do for your room.
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post #2831 of 14621
3/17/11 at 11:31am
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Your speakers will run fine using the 300 in that size room. All else in this receiver will be similar to the 500 and 700 internals. If you have a lower freq. capable sub, you'll like what ARC will do for your room.
John

I've got two SVS subs picking up the low end.

So not working forking over the extra 500$ for the 500 compared to the 300?

I've also been using a BFD1124 and RoomEQ Wizard to EQ the subs. Should that be taken out of the system?
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post #2832 of 14621
3/17/11 at 11:46am
Hello,
I am a new owner of the MRX-500 and have been experiencing image flicker problems from my HD-Tivo. It not so much really a flicker, but the video processor seems to lose its lock on the image and the screen goes black momentarily. Keep in mind that the sound is maintained throughout the loss of image so I don't think it is "losing track of the input". I read a little earlier that people had issues with the conversion from the component input so I switched to the HDMI input and that has reduced the frequency of the problem, but it has not gone away. Before this reciever I was using an Anthem AVM50 and experienced no such problem. I switched to the reciever to obtain ARC, Dolby Volume, to bitstream Dolby true HD, and future 3D capability. However this problem is becoming very irritating. I have updated to the latest firmware and have called Anthem. They suggested plugging the receiver directly to an outlet rather than a power conditioner which did not help.

Has anyone had a similar problem or do you think my unit has a defect?
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post #2833 of 14621
3/17/11 at 11:55am
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Originally Posted by JimmyLeggs View Post


I've got two SVS subs picking up the low end.

So not working forking over the extra 500$ for the 500 compared to the 300?

I've also been using a BFD1124 and RoomEQ Wizard to EQ the subs. Should that be taken out of the system?

You can use ARC to dial in you subs so try that first without anything else. ARC has a Quick Measure feature that can be used to position all speakers and sub before doing a full measurement. Thus is a very handy tool.The 300 will be just fine for your needs.
John
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post #2834 of 14621
3/17/11 at 2:57pm
When it comes to the way my system sounds now... I "think" it is at its best.

I tried one more thing before calling it quits... and my wife gets home.

I lowered my sub almost to the floor with the retracting feet... I had it raised earlier to keep it above the carpet.

Voila! I think I have it now.... Need to listen for a while

Here are my charts:
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post #2835 of 14621
3/17/11 at 3:00pm
And now for my video issues with my MRX300: These are the two emails I sent Piero Ferrari @ Anthem

My issues:

1. 1080p-24 does not appear to be being sent "through" the AVR as pass through... When clicking on resolution button... display says "1080p24". All other tried resolutions including 1080p60 say "through".... Volume control only appears on OSD in 1080p24. when resolution is set to through.
2. Stuttering, frame drops, and lip sync issues appear only at 1080p24
3. Lip Sync function does not appear to be working... even at it highest amount 150ms... the sync does not seem to change.

All of the issues where not a problem with my older AVM 20 (HDMI to TV and Multi Channel audio to AVM20).... nothing else has changed.

As of now 1080p24 content is really unwatchable.

I also found this out after some experimenting:

I think I have more evidence that the MRX is not passing through video at 1080p-24. If I press the setup button with all other resolutions... the AVR has to switch resolution/display modes in order for the the OSD setup menu to appear... takes about 5-7 seconds. This also happens in reverse order when pressing the setup button turning the menu off. If I press the setup button while in 1080p-24... the setup menu comes almost immediately and does not have to switch anything.... Some thing is up with 1080p24.

I also ran HDMI directly to TV at 1080p-24... no stuttering, dropped frames, or lip sync issues.

Just thought I should share incase others are having similar issues.
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post #2836 of 14621
3/17/11 at 3:19pm
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Originally Posted by Litlgi74 View Post

When it comes to the way my system sounds now... I "think" it is at its best.

I tried one more thing before calling it quits... and my wife gets home.

I lowered my sub almost to the floor with the retracting feet... I had it raised earlier to keep it above the carpet.

Voila! I think I have it now.... Need to listen for a while

Here are my charts:

Did you try the flat setting as suggested by ninja? This could be the final touch before critical listening.
John
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post #2837 of 14621
3/17/11 at 3:42pm
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Originally Posted by jayray View Post

Did you try the flat setting as suggested by ninja? This could be the final touch before critical listening.
John

I don't have the built in circuit protection... so no option of changing the "Auto" to "Flat"...

Now I just need Anthem to iron out the other issues with pass "through" and 1080p-24
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post #2838 of 14621
3/17/11 at 4:06pm
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Originally Posted by Litlgi74 View Post

And now for my video issues with my MRX300: These are the two emails I sent Piero Ferrari @ Anthem

My issues:

1. 1080p-24 does not appear to be being sent "through" the AVR as pass through... When clicking on resolution button... display says "1080p24". All other tried resolutions including 1080p60 say "through".... Volume control only appears on OSD in 1080p24. when resolution is set to through.
2. Stuttering, frame drops, and lip sync issues appear only at 1080p24
3. Lip Sync function does not appear to be working... even at it highest amount 150ms... the sync does not seem to change.

All of the issues where not a problem with my older AVM 20 (HDMI to TV and Multi Channel audio to AVM20).... nothing else has changed.

As of now 1080p24 content is really unwatchable.

I also found this out after some experimenting:

I think I have more evidence that the MRX is not passing through video at 1080p-24. If I press the setup button with all other resolutions... the AVR has to switch resolution/display modes in order for the the OSD setup menu to appear... takes about 5-7 seconds. This also happens in reverse order when pressing the setup button turning the menu off. If I press the setup button while in 1080p-24... the setup menu comes almost immediately and does not have to switch anything.... Some thing is up with 1080p24.

I also ran HDMI directly to TV at 1080p-24... no stuttering, dropped frames, or lip sync issues.

Just thought I should share incase others are having similar issues.

As great as these Anthems sound they are a bit buggy and I'm growing impatient. I emailed Anthem 2 days ago about my lip sync issue with blu-ray and dvr (at 1080i) and no reply yet.
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post #2839 of 14621
3/17/11 at 4:13pm
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As great as these Anthems sound they are a bit buggy and I'm growing impatient. I emailed Anthem 2 days ago about my lip sync issue with blu-ray and dvr (at 1080i) and no reply yet.

Does the "lip sync" feature on the MRX make any noticeable difference for you either way... Mine does absolutely nothing.

PS... I called Piero today...and he called me back. Here is his email: PFerrari@paradigm.com
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post #2840 of 14621
3/17/11 at 4:25pm
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Originally Posted by Litlgi74 View Post

Does the "lip sync" feature on the MRX make any noticeable difference for you either way... Mine does absolutely nothing.

No, for my issue audio is heard after images are seen. It's as if the mrx processing is slowing down the audio. The lip sync function is suppose to work for instances where audio is heard before images are seen, so no fix for me.
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post #2841 of 14621
3/17/11 at 4:33pm
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Originally Posted by Litlgi74 View Post

Does the "lip sync" feature on the MRX make any noticeable difference for you either way... Mine does absolutely nothing.

PS... I called Piero today...and he called me back. Here is his email: PFerrari@paradigm.com

What did he say?
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post #2842 of 14621
3/17/11 at 4:56pm
Hello, i just bought the mrx 300 to replace my pioneer elite and have to say man do they sound different. I haven't yet used ARC but am looking forward to the outcome.

In the mean time i tried to set up my WII for the kids and can get a picture but no sound.


I put the Audio cable from the wii to the analog L/R going on the 300. When i go into the main source setup and select the game as source and change the audio to analog i can;t select the number i have the input on. Iassume this is the right method but can;t get it to work.

Any advice would be great?
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post #2843 of 14621
3/17/11 at 5:20pm
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Hello, i just bought the mrx 300 to replace my pioneer elite and have to say man do they sound different. I haven't yet used ARC but am looking forward to the outcome.

In the mean time i tried to set up my WII for the kids and can get a picture but no sound.

I put the Audio cable from the wii to the analog L/R going on the 300. When i go into the main source setup and select the game as source and change the audio to analog i can;t select the number i have the input on. Iassume this is the right method but can;t get it to work.

Any advice would be great?

What is the number of your input source? It should be a number 1 to 6. Analog audio is numbered 1-6. They need to match for the analog audio to work.
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post #2844 of 14621
3/17/11 at 5:26pm
wcmlutz - thanks for the reply. that is the issue i am having as i can't seem to select the number its on as there doens;t seem to be te option in the menu.
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3/17/11 at 5:27pm
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Originally Posted by niners View Post

Hello, i just bought the mrx 300 to replace my pioneer elite and have to say man do they sound different. I haven't yet used ARC but am looking forward to the outcome.

In the mean time i tried to set up my WII for the kids and can get a picture but no sound.


I put the Audio cable from the wii to the analog L/R going on the 300. When i go into the main source setup and select the game as source and change the audio to analog i can;t select the number i have the input on. Iassume this is the right method but can;t get it to work.

Any advice would be great?

in main source setup
game
main audio input = analog

In advanced source setup
game
main/rec analog audio input
Set to whatever number analog input you hooked into
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post #2846 of 14621
3/17/11 at 5:37pm
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What did he say?

Hey Eric,

On the phone, Piero was a bit dismissive, and a eager to blame my Dune media player. He also suggested I try a real BDP... but I don't have one anymore... I sold off my OPPO BDP-83SE when I finally setup I home based 32TB media server that works every time with no glitches in the audio or video.... Like I told him... this method of watching BluRays was working (for over a year) with my older Anthem AVM20... Why shouldn't it work with the new MRX.

Piero said they had no way of testing what I am doing... and maybe I should consider that my BluRay ISO rips were indeed the problem.... NOT!!!

He also suggested the the OSD being on while in "through" mode may not mean the the AVR is processing the video but rather maybe it was just displaying the OSD while the video was 1080p-24... With every other resolution set to "through" mode... there is no OSD.... I think it would be safe to assume that if the AVR shows the OSD while watching 1080p-24 content... it must NOT be passing the video "through" untouched!

He also suggested I reset my AVR to Factory Defaults and update to the newest firmware... Since I was already at the latest firmware... that did nothing other waste time.

Piero then followed up with an email response. Here it is:

Hello John, matter of fact 50.01 is the latest for MRX 300, 50.05 is the latest for 500-700.
The issue you report with the stuttering effect has been reported. Engineering is looking into this. I will be sending them a message regarding the OSD appearing with only a 1080p 24 source.


I hope he does also mention and or report and makes it clear that there IS a problem with 1080p-24 content not being passed "through" the AVR.
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post #2847 of 14621
3/17/11 at 5:49pm
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Originally Posted by eking3030 View Post

in main source setup
game
main audio input = analog

In advanced source setup
game
main/rec analog audio input
Set to whatever number analog input you hooked into

eking,

Out of curiosity, if you don't do step two (advanced source setup) then you should be able to keep moving the analog input until you hear sound based on the game input the Anthem defaults to the game analog input.

Is that correct, or do you have to go into the advanced source setup?
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post #2848 of 14621
3/17/11 at 6:16pm
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Originally Posted by SimpleTheater View Post

eking,

Out of curiosity, if you don't do step two (advanced source setup) then you should be able to keep moving the analog input until you hear sound based on the game input the Anthem defaults to the game analog input.

Is that correct, or do you have to go into the advanced source setup?

I have multiple analog sources, so I need to assign the input for my sources. Is there a reason to not just assign the input to the source, or is it not working for you. I have my wii assigned to analog 5 in the advanced setup and it works fine.

Sorry SimpleTheater I thought you were the original poster. That is the way I have it setup for my wii. It seems easier to just assign it than to keep moving the cables until you hear the sound.
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post #2849 of 14621
3/17/11 at 7:02pm
A couple of quick questions about bass management.

I understand that the lowest crossover ARC will select when speakers are Small is 60hz.

But if your speakers are genuinely full range can it select Large?

And is there the possibility of a bass doubling setting like Denon's LFE+Main?

Thanks
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post #2850 of 14621
3/18/11 at 6:16am
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Originally Posted by Litlgi74 View Post

Hey Eric,

On the phone, Piero was a bit dismissive, and a eager to blame my Dune media player. He also suggested I try a real BDP... but I don't have one anymore... I sold off my OPPO BDP-83SE when I finally setup I home based 32TB media server that works every time with no glitches in the audio or video.... Like I told him... this method of watching BluRays was working (for over a year) with my older Anthem AVM20... Why shouldn't it work with the new MRX.

Piero said they had no way of testing what I am doing... and maybe I should consider that my BluRay ISO rips were indeed the problem.... NOT!!!

He also suggested the the OSD being on while in "through" mode may not mean the the AVR is processing the video but rather maybe it was just displaying the OSD while the video was 1080p-24... With every other resolution set to "through" mode... there is no OSD.... I think it would be safe to assume that if the AVR shows the OSD while watching 1080p-24 content... it must NOT be passing the video "through" untouched!

He also suggested I reset my AVR to Factory Defaults and update to the newest firmware... Since I was already at the latest firmware... that did nothing other waste time.

Piero then followed up with an email response. Here it is:

Hello John, matter of fact 50.01 is the latest for MRX 300, 50.05 is the latest for 500-700.
The issue you report with the stuttering effect has been reported. Engineering is looking into this. I will be sending them a message regarding the OSD appearing with only a 1080p 24 source.


I hope he does also mention and or report and makes it clear that there IS a problem with 1080p-24 content not being passed "through" the AVR.

Is there a version 50.05 for the MRX500 and 700? I only see 50.04.
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