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post #7471 of 14613
Intersting Issue with the 50.19 firmware. I've had zero issues with my MRX-700 up until the 50.19 firmware. Once updated with the firmware. the unit began freezing up (about 50% of the time) when I switched from the BD player (Oppo BDP-93) to Direct TV. Remote buttons don't work and front panel buttons don't work. Only thing I could do was unplugged the unit. Went back to 50.12 and no issues in the last two days. Anyone else have this issue?
post #7472 of 14613
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Originally Posted by PGriff1051 View Post

Intersting Issue with the 50.19 firmware. I've had zero issues with my MRX-700 up until the 50.19 firmware. Once updated with the firmware. the unit began freezing up (about 50% of the time) when I switched from the BD player (Oppo BDP-93) to Direct TV. Remote buttons don't work and front panel buttons don't work. Only thing I could do was unplugged the unit. Went back to 50.12 and no issues in the last two days. Anyone else have this issue?

Hello,
I went back to 50.12, because of the Audio Codec popping issues. I suggest you email The Anthem Tech support group ASAP.
post #7473 of 14613
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Originally Posted by TKO1 View Post

Hi,

I still experience popping when changing channels on my HDTV cable box (digital optical input) on my MRX500 (50.19 firmware) even if the signal codec stays the same.

I also have popping on some CDs (mostly compilation CDs or CDs with a lot of songs, e.g. > 14) between tracks. I have been working with Anthem and Oppo (I have a BDP-83) to try and isolate the problem but without any success to date. The popping is not intrusive to say, but is definitely detracting from the great sound that the Anthem is capable of. In this instance the sound is reminiscent of the kind of pop you would hear if you placed a needle on the groove of a record (for those older readers ;-) ).

Cheers.


Thanks. I understand that there is no perfect system and need to compromise on certain things (unless I have infinite amount of money )

Other than that, how do you rate Anthem MRX 700? Any comparison with similar mid to high end receivers (like NAD, Integra) in terms of sound quality.

-iknown
post #7474 of 14613
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Originally Posted by iknown View Post


Thanks. I understand that there is no perfect system and need to compromise on certain things (unless I have infinite amount of money )

Other than that, how do you rate Anthem MRX 700? Any comparison with similar mid to high end receivers (like NAD, Integra) in terms of sound quality.

-iknown

At least as good but likely better. I'll save you the time to search google, they are the receivers to beat for sound quality. Great amplification and Anthem Room Correction, arguably the best room correction system in receivers in this price range.
John
post #7475 of 14613
A great improvement, i think. I've taken a lot of advice given by members on my past runs of arc. Turned the left integrated sub up a bit and the right one down. This got rid of those levels that were +/- 6. I do not recall setting the center at Full range cross over.??

Levels:

Front left: +1
Center -1
Right front +1

Guess it's time for a sub? Suggestions welcome.
LL
post #7476 of 14613
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Originally Posted by hydrotex View Post

A great improvement, i think. I've taken a lot of advice given by members on my past runs of arc. Turned the left integrated sub up a bit and the right one down. This got rid of those levels that were +/- 6. I do not recall setting the center at Full range cross over.??

Levels:

Front left: +1
Center -1
Right front +1

Guess it's time for a sub? Suggestions welcome.

These look very good. Suggestions for a sub? First, volume of your room, typical volume listening levels and available funds
John
post #7477 of 14613
I've been having freezing issues and video dropouts since 50.11. Anthem keeps trying to convince me the current FW is the best they have so far and far superior to 50.09. That's all fine for them, but not me. Since after many attempts of asking for 50.09 (since I had stupidly deleted it) and getting the same lame "non-helpful" response, I asked a fellow forum member who was helpful enough to provide it for me. You can make up your own thoughts as to how I feel about their lack of help in my issue.
post #7478 of 14613
I too have noticed the popping noise since upgrading as well as lock ups going from bdp to direct tv that were not present before. How would I go back to the previous firmware? On another note how warm are you guys mrx running? I usually listen at around -20 and notice the top getting quite warm. I have ascend acoustics Sierra 1s for the front and smaller htm200 for surrounds(5.1). I did just purchase a second sub running off a splitter from the mrx. I'm not sue how warm it was before as I never put my hand on it, it has 6" of free space above it and nothing crowding the sides. Should I buy a fan for it?
Thanks, Brad
post #7479 of 14613
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Originally Posted by hydrotex View Post

A great improvement, i think. I've taken a lot of advice given by members on my past runs of arc. Turned the left integrated sub up a bit and the right one down. This got rid of those levels that were +/- 6. I do not recall setting the center at Full range cross over.??

Levels:

Front left: +1
Center -1
Right front +1

Guess it's time for a sub? Suggestions welcome.

Looks great! Bet it sounds great to

Did ARC set your center at 60? I noticed you checked the Full X-Over check box on the center, why did you do this, just curious. With the Full X-Over checked, I'm guessing you could lower your Centers Cutoff to like 50 and it would still look great. You can of course try this without re-measuring, just make the change in the targets window, re-calculate and upload.
post #7480 of 14613
Quote:
Originally Posted by hydrotex View Post

A great improvement, i think. I've taken a lot of advice given by members on my past runs of arc. Turned the left integrated sub up a bit and the right one down. This got rid of those levels that were +/- 6. I do not recall setting the center at Full range cross over.??

Levels:

Front left: +1
Center -1
Right front +1

Guess it's time for a sub? Suggestions welcome.

I imagine this sounds pretty good but...if you could move your center to get rid of or reduce the dip between 60 and 100 hz and the Right Front to get rid of or reduce the dip between 60 to 300 ARC would be able to improve the room gain a couple db.

While ARC has tamed it you could turn both integrated subs down a bit but I would only do this if you are going to do another measure.
post #7481 of 14613
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Originally Posted by jayray View Post


These look very good. Suggestions for a sub? First, volume of your room, typical volume listening levels and available funds
John

Ive got a weird shaped great room. I'll take some measurements and do my best to describe.
post #7482 of 14613
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Originally Posted by Tigger! View Post


Looks great! Bet it sounds great to

Did ARC set your center at 60? I noticed you checked the Full X-Over check box on the center, why did you do this, just curious. With the Full X-Over checked, I'm guessing you could lower your Centers Cutoff to like 50 and it would still look great. You can of course try this without re-measuring, just make the change in the targets window, re-calculate and upload.

Thanks I don't recall checking the full x-over box. If I did it was inadvertent. So lower the cut off or uncheck the box?
post #7483 of 14613
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Originally Posted by Shrike645 View Post


I imagine this sounds pretty good but...if you could move your center to get rid of or reduce the dip between 60 and 100 hz and the Right Front to get rid of or reduce the dip between 60 to 300 ARC would be able to improve the room gain a couple db.

While ARC has tamed it you could turn both integrated subs down a bit but I would only do this if you are going to do another measure.

Move the center forward or back? I've got about 6" either way that I could go on the console that it sits on.

The right front is in a corner and very little possible movement.

The amount that I moved the sub settings was a real tiny bit and it made a dramatic difference. Next time i run arc, I'll breathe on the settings. :-)
post #7484 of 14613
Hey guys, dont know if this has been brought up before, but is it ok to use an HDMI Splitter this the MRX? If so is there one that is better than the other or something like that?

I wish the MRX's had dual HDMI out. Does anyone know if they are coming out with an updated MRX line with maybe dual HDMI outs?

Thanks
post #7485 of 14613
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Originally Posted by bnrbeseth View Post

I too have noticed the popping noise since upgrading as well as lock ups going from bdp to direct tv that were not present before. How would I go back to the previous firmware? On another note how warm are you guys mrx running? I usually listen at around -20 and notice the top getting quite warm. I have ascend acoustics Sierra 1s for the front and smaller htm200 for surrounds(5.1). I did just purchase a second sub running off a splitter from the mrx. I'm not sue how warm it was before as I never put my hand on it, it has 6" of free space above it and nothing crowding the sides. Should I buy a fan for it?
Thanks, Brad

Hello,
Please report this to the Anthem tech support site. They will send you the previous version. The more people who write to them the faster they will resolve the problem.
post #7486 of 14613
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Originally Posted by hydrotex View Post

Move the center forward or back? I've got about 6" either way that I could go on the console that it sits on.

The right front is in a corner and very little possible movement.

The amount that I moved the sub settings was a real tiny bit and it made a dramatic difference. Next time i run arc, I'll breathe on the settings. :-)

It's hard to say. that's where the quick measure feature comes in handy. You can move them around and watch in real time the changes. Don't forget that quick measure zero's all settings and an ARC upload must be reloaded after you are done moving speakers.

Your settings look pretty good and we're just looking to see if we can do some real fine tuning or you can sit back and enjoy.
post #7487 of 14613
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Originally Posted by hydrotex View Post

Thanks I don't recall checking the full x-over box. If I did it was inadvertent. So lower the cut off or uncheck the box?

I don't think it is ever checked by default (on the center that is). However, looking at your charts, checking it will let you set the centers cutoff lower... I'd give it a shot at 50. Keep in mind you can do this without re-measuring, just change your targets window, re-calculate and upload

You cant try moving your Center a little, but based on what I recall about your room description and the fact that you have a similar dip in your fronts as you do the center... I'm not sure you can improve it much.

Turning down the subs a touch more may help but I'm not really sure that it is going to gain you much more... I would save your current ARC config file and mark your subs where they are so you can put them back and re-load your old settings if you decide your new tweaks are not to your liking.

You are at the point now where you can play and tweak till the cows come home... but at some point you just need to sit back and enjoy
post #7488 of 14613
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Originally Posted by Tigger! View Post


I don't think it is ever checked by default (on the center that is). However, looking at your charts, checking it will let you set the centers cutoff lower... I'd give it a shot at 50. Keep in mind you can do this without re-measuring, just change your targets window, re-calculate and upload

You cant try moving your Center a little, but based on what I recall about your room description and the fact that you have a similar dip in your fronts as you do the center... I'm not sure you can improve it much.

Turning down the subs a touch more may help but I'm not really sure that it is going to gain you much more... I would save your current ARC config file and mark your subs where they are so you can put them back and re-load your old settings if you decide your new tweaks are not to your liking.

You are at the point now where you can play and tweak till the cows come home... but at some point you just need to sit back and enjoy

I think I'm at the point where I'll try lowering the center's cutoff and start looking for a sub and rear speakers. :-)

I thought what i had was a major improvement over my denon. There is clearly an audible difference with this last tweak.

Thanks for everyone's input and help!
post #7489 of 14613
I am a MXR 700 owner since this summer.
Today I finally found time to to the ARC setup but I ran into an issue.
My receiver is place in a bedroom next to the home theater.
I am following the quick startup written by Tigger.
It is my understanding that I will connect serial cable to the receiver, key span adapter to the serial cable and my laptop.
Now I need to connect the microphone usb cable to the same laptop?
My seating positions are too far away so I cannot connect the Microphone USB cable to my laptop.

Is there a work around for this?
Should I buy a longer serial cable or a longer USB cable?

Thanks
post #7490 of 14613
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Originally Posted by hehateme View Post

I am a MXR 700 owner since this summer.
Today I finally found time to to the ARC setup but I ran into an issue.
My receiver is place in a bedroom next to the home theater.
I am following the quick startup written by Tigger.
It is my understanding that I will connect serial cable to the receiver, key span adapter to the serial cable and my laptop.
Now I need to connect the microphone usb cable to the same laptop?
My seating positions are too far away so I cannot connect the Microphone USB cable to my laptop.

Is there a work around for this?
Should I buy a longer serial cable or a longer USB cable?

Thanks

Get a longer serial cable. USB has a limited spec for length compared to serial.
post #7491 of 14613
I have adapters that I was using to send serial commands over Cat 5.
Do you see any problem in using these adapters to extend the length of my serial cable?
post #7492 of 14613
Yes, get a longer serial cable with the correct Male/Female plugs at each end. Be sure you get a "straight through" serial cable. It should say pins 1-9 connect to pins 1-9.

Do not get the identical looking "null modem" cable that swaps one pair of wires.

Don't know about your CAT 5 adapters. They SHOULD work.
--Bob
post #7493 of 14613
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Originally Posted by hehateme View Post

I have adapters that I was using to send serial commands over Cat 5.
Do you see any problem in using these adapters to extend the length of my serial cable?

Can't see any problems. If you got them it's easy to try.
post #7494 of 14613
I was wondering if anyone had heard anymore about the possibility of adding FLAC as a codec? The WMA Lossless is ok, but is not as good as FLAC. WAV is obviously the best, but you can't tag the files with artwork. I've been archiving old lps, but holding out with hopes for FLAC.
In a related note, has anyone hooked up a turntable to the MRX? More specifically, a tt with a built in phono amp, via analog inputs. I'm guessing a tt with a USB port would not work.
-Peter
post #7495 of 14613
Hi:

I was cable to use Cat 5 adapters to extend the length of my serial cable.
I have taken my first stab at taking the measurements.
I was following these steps
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...postcount=3849

Step 2 says that measure the distance from primary listening position.
I have 4 reclining chairs so the middle 2 chairs are my primary position. I chose one of them as my primary to calculate the distances.
When I went to the setup for MRX 700 I found that there were already some distances entered in the speaker distance setup menu. I just changed them to the actual value.

I uploaded the settings into the receiver.
I went to the sources to turn ARC on but found that it was already turned on for each source even though I ran ARC for the first time today.

Equipment
Anthem MRX 700
Amp: Anthem MCA 30
Speakers front, center, left : Studio 100
Sub: Paradigm Sub 15
rear and surrounds: in wall Triad Bronze surrounds

The graphs are attached.

I added Target customization.

11/21/2011 10:01 PM CST
Added the level calibration values
Dolby Volume leveler Amount 9
Dolby Volume Calibration Offset 0
Front Left +3
Center +4
Front Right +4
Surround Right -1
Surround Left -2
Movie Subwoofer -10
Music Subwoofer -10
Aux Right -3
Aux Left -4

Tigger,
You were correct that my Sub will have a large number and it is -10. I will reduce the sub woofer level, disable the cross over, move the front left/right away from the back wall and take measurements again.

I will appreciate any suggestions you have for me.

Thanks
LL
LL
LL
post #7496 of 14613
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Originally Posted by hehateme View Post

Hi:

I have taken my first stab at taking the measurements.
I was following these steps
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...postcount=3849


The graphs are attached.

I will appreciate any suggestions you have for me.

Thanks

Hi,

yours is a very interesting graph set

Because you have three very capable L/R/C speakers (Studio 100s) your subwoofer crossover is going to be interesting, especially using a full-range speaker like that for a center channel!

Your subwoofer slope is very sharp (4th order at least) at 50Hz so I am wondering if there is a setting in the sub that is turned on to crossover at that frequency? Can you check this?

Can you post what ARC recommended for your targets?

Cheers.
post #7497 of 14613
Quote:
Originally Posted by hehateme View Post

Hi:

I was cable to use Cat 5 adapters to extend the length of my serial cable.
I have taken my first stab at taking the measurements.
I was following these steps
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...postcount=3849

Step 2 says that measure the distance from primary listening position.
I have 4 reclining chairs so the middle 2 chairs are my primary position. I chose one of them as my primary to calculate the distances.
When I went to the setup for MRX 700 I found that there were already some distances entered in the speaker distance setup menu. I just changed them to the actual value.

I uploaded the settings into the receiver.
I went to the sources to turn ARC on but found that it was already turned on for each source even though I ran ARC for the first time today.

Equipment
Anthem MRX 700
Amp: Anthem MCA 30
Speakers front, center, left : Studio 100
Sub: Paradigm Sub 15
rear and surrounds: in wall Triad Bronze surrounds

The graphs are attached.

I will appreciate any suggestions you have for me.

Thanks

All looks good except for your sub. First question I have is is your sub functioning correctly? Second do you have any filters and/or crossover engaged on your sub? If so, please turn off all filters and crossovers in the sub. If you answer yes to question 1 and no to question 2, my next suggestion is to use Quick Measure (QM) and play around with different sub locations. Your sub chart should be looking way better than what it's looking now. Also, post your Targets' View.
post #7498 of 14613
Quote:
Originally Posted by hehateme View Post

Hi:

I was cable to use Cat 5 adapters to extend the length of my serial cable.
I have taken my first stab at taking the measurements.
I was following these steps
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...postcount=3849

Step 2 says that measure the distance from primary listening position.
I have 4 reclining chairs so the middle 2 chairs are my primary position. I chose one of them as my primary to calculate the distances.
When I went to the setup for MRX 700 I found that there were already some distances entered in the speaker distance setup menu. I just changed them to the actual value.

I uploaded the settings into the receiver.
I went to the sources to turn ARC on but found that it was already turned on for each source even though I ran ARC for the first time today.

Equipment
Anthem MRX 700
Amp: Anthem MCA 30
Speakers front, center, left : Studio 100
Sub: Paradigm Sub 15
rear and surrounds: in wall Triad Bronze surrounds

The graphs are attached.

I will appreciate any suggestions you have for me.

Thanks

Hello Hehateme,

Your distances should probably be measured from between the two middle chairs as would probably be the ideal location for your first ARC reading... unless you mostly only have one person sitting and listening/watching, in which case pick the chair that will be used for that purpose as your measuring point and first Mic location. (And not to worry that there were already some distances in the menu, these are probably just the default distances, unless you set them when you first setup your MRX and forgot ).

ARC being turned on after you upload your first ARC settings is typical on newer MRX firmware, we always like to check that it is on just incase though. Older versions of Firmware this was a manual step.

With the exception of your sub, the graphs look great.

If possible, you might pull the front speakers away from the wall a little more... I'm guessing they are about a foot away right now? Another foot may help tame the low end a little more and possibly the dip as well. In particular the Left and Right, though it wouldn't hurt to try all three. These recommendations are not needed though, ARC has done a nice job with all three speakers... however if your into playing a little those are my thoughts. Again, no need to make changes if you are happy as these look great as they are.

As for the sub, something doesn't make sense here... it looks like you have some filters engaged. A low pass filter of some kind. Make sure your crossovers are disabled or set as high as they will go, probably something like 170Hz. Also, it looks like your sub level may be way to high... can you post the speaker calibration levels ARC uploaded for us. Also post your targets window as that will help us understand more of what is going on.

Your sub is also a good canidate for "Flat" setting under advanced in the Targets window... but it looks like you may have already figured that out? Please post your targets window.

Once you adjust your sub levels down, get rid of your subs crossover and possibly adjust your front speaker locations, you will want to run ARC again... post up your new Graphs, Targets Window and Speaker Calibration Levels for us to check out

If you check out the Quick Start Guide you referenced above, there are screen shots of the Targets window and the Speaker Calibration Levels for you to reference.
post #7499 of 14613
I think I type to much... lol...
post #7500 of 14613
I have uploaded the target settings in my original post.
I will post the Speaker calibration level when I get home today. I am assuming that I should take the picture of the calibration level with a camera. I think the calibration level had all zeros just like tiggers sample but I will post it. Does ARC set the calibration level or do I have to do this?

I was playing with the sub and I did increase its level to 50%.(I will bring it down to 30%)
I think the sub woofer cut-off was set to 60 Hz.(I will disable this and set it to zero)
There is another setting in the sub woofer called Phase alignment. Let me know if I need to change this value.


I had built a 30 inch deep false wall to hide all the speakers. I do have a little bit of room to move the speakers but I am hoping that tweaking ARC settings will be enough and not require rebuilding this wall to get more room.

Many thanks for such informative responses.
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