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Originally Posted by omegaslast 
To be blunt i think too many bites are being taken without considering whether or not they can be chewed
When you become a manufacturer of drivers who's responsible for all of them? When one breaks who would i contact for repair? is there a warranty? Are these drivers made here or in china? if china screws up a huge batch do you want to get sunk like kevin haskins did? etc. DE250 works for us already because all the infrastructure is already there.
Of the $128 parts express charges for a DE250:
$30-$40 of that is parts express "profit" (though they use it to pay all sorts of people)
X amount is the cost of the driver to B&C
Y amount is the cost of B&C employees
Z amount is profit
So obviously youre cutting out the dealer (parts express), which is nice, but also shouldering all the costs of infrastructure
I think most at this point were completely ready to pay the money for a DE250, or X or Y driver, and were hoping to save money by buying cheap cement SEOS and cheap flat packs. These dont require the same sort of tech support as a driver does and are far less complicated. Once those are rolling out to customers and everythings smooth sailing then yeah it would be cool to have a super cheap but high performing compression driver to bundle with a plastic SEOS-12 and possibly a flat pack that would allow people to have insane performance for $300-$400 a speaker (including crossover and 12" woofer).
To be blunt i think too many bites are being taken without considering whether or not they can be chewed
When you become a manufacturer of drivers who's responsible for all of them? When one breaks who would i contact for repair? is there a warranty? Are these drivers made here or in china? if china screws up a huge batch do you want to get sunk like kevin haskins did? etc. DE250 works for us already because all the infrastructure is already there.
Of the $128 parts express charges for a DE250:
$30-$40 of that is parts express "profit" (though they use it to pay all sorts of people)
X amount is the cost of the driver to B&C
Y amount is the cost of B&C employees
Z amount is profit
So obviously youre cutting out the dealer (parts express), which is nice, but also shouldering all the costs of infrastructure
I think most at this point were completely ready to pay the money for a DE250, or X or Y driver, and were hoping to save money by buying cheap cement SEOS and cheap flat packs. These dont require the same sort of tech support as a driver does and are far less complicated. Once those are rolling out to customers and everythings smooth sailing then yeah it would be cool to have a super cheap but high performing compression driver to bundle with a plastic SEOS-12 and possibly a flat pack that would allow people to have insane performance for $300-$400 a speaker (including crossover and 12" woofer).
I'll be a little blunt as well.
There aren't too many bites being taken without considering whether or not they can be chewed'. I'm simply making sure every aspect gets covered.
There's a lot of waiting time between prototyping, getting things made and shipped, finding cheaper methods ect. So why wouldn't I explore other things that the group might want during that time? I run a landscaping business....things are pretty slow right now, so I just turned my sites on other related things.
I got the idea prototyped, and it's available for purchase right now. In the spare time I looked for cheaper methods. Those poured models will be available on the next pallet from Poland. I also looked into an even cheaper method which I'm doing right now.
There's a lot more going on behind the scenes than you might realize. I didn't say there was a compression driver specifically designed for the SEOS. I just said it should be as good and hopefully better than the DE250 and should be cheaper. It's nothing like what Kevin did. These don't cost $200+ with a minimum order of 250 units. There's not much that can go wrong with CD's. Replacement diaphragms, phase plugs, whatever. I think you're looking into this much more than needed right now. I hope you don't think I haven't thought about all the things you talked about.
It's not like anyone will be forced to buy the CD's that are going to be tested. I'm just getting samples for people to look at. If something turns out great, that's a plus.
I hoped this portion of the project would have been done by now, but I lost about a month due to things beyond my control.
. I'm glad to see you have the disposition to not let the minority of people that have beat you for product, and the comments from the peanut gallery, turn you away from these projects.
