Originally Posted by Erich H
But I still wouldn't count mdf out for the baffle on the kits. With roundovers, it's easier to finish than a roundover on Baltic plywood. I'd have no problem using a 1" thick mdf baffle and a 3/4" Baltic enclosure.
I like that idea. That way, people can do contrasting baffles (like AJ's cool Soundfield Monitor Ones often feature), or get an easy no-diffraction grill design (with rear-mounted woofers, at least) by just machining a ridge in the sides/top of the baffle, making a thin frame to slide in said ridge, and stretching grill cloth over the baffle, attached to said frame.
[quote=Spec4;21777156So just crunching some numbers and using the current PE pricing for these components (qty. 1) including the plastic SEOS-12, I come to ~$275 a piece...ugh.
Wow. I didn't realize they'd be so cheap!
How much of that cost was in the crossover parts? I wonder if (at least for people who already have amps, and don't mind extra boxes in their room compared to just using an AVR) the ultimate cost difference between passive and a modern active unit (like miniDSP) and a passive design is going to be minimal.
Even if one considers the additional amps. These are going to be efficient enough that in a typical room one could probably use one of those little <$100 ~25 "real" wpc T-amps
per speaker and get deafening clean output. Or, for a single-box LCR solution, one of those Elan 6-channel LM3886-based ~40W/ch chipamps that regularly go for <$200 used would likely be fine.
Originally Posted by omegaslast
If your fedex rates are $30 its going be the same end price for californians
They'll likely be more than that. FWIW, last month I used my FedEx account to ship an Oppo BDP-83 back to them for repairs. (For the record, owned for almost 3x the warranty period, but handled by Oppo as if it was in warranty because "it shouldn't have broken.') The cost of shipping that one relatively light box from GA to CA was a bit under $20.
Erich probably will get good quantity discounts for shipping, but it's still heavy stuff going many, many miles.
Originally Posted by Eternal Velocity
The problem with SETs extense well beyond the sensitivity number.
You will need to construct a crossover with a resistive impedance load ~8ohm +/- 1.5 ohm (phase angles +/- 30 deg) and for the box, you will need a transmission line with a seriously neutered impedance peak.
Yes. I remember once hearing a system with a BMS coaxial driver, designed (and great-sounding) to be driven by a solid state amp, powered by a SET. It was extremely hot, because of the compression driver's impedance variations. By contrast, on modern amplification in the same room, and same positions, it sounded way better than any dome tweet I've ever heard.
Originally Posted by jholzbauer
Sorry, I should have quoted one of the posts. By these, I'm referencing the flat pack that Eric is saying under the $275 mark. I have 3 SHO-10s from Chase for my front stage. I'm just wondering if the $275 flat pack would out perform them or be similar.
It will objectively outperform the CHT speakers, because the SEOS waveguide controls directivity better, and lower. Whether or not that objective superiority translates to subjective preference for it by you in your room...nobody can answer that but you after hearing both. But it will be objectively better.