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post #4621 of 9852
Anyone building anything? 3 posts in the last 2 days - what the?
post #4622 of 9852

I think most people are waiting to see what new designs come out. Im definitely waiting.

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Originally Posted by Brad Horstkotte View Post

Anyone building anything? 3 posts in the last 2 days - what the?
Forum n00b here. I've got one cabinet complete (minus the lipstick) and the other awaiting lumber for front baffle and back panel. These will house Eminence Omega Pro-15As, which currently reside in a pair of Klipsch Cornwall cabinets - atop which sit Radian 475PBs mounted on Altec 511B horns, the whole mess crossed at 1200 Hz (IIRC) via a MiniDSP 2x4 unbalanced unit.

Despite what you guys say about it being to small for a 15" woofer, I'm looking forward to replacing the Altec horns with the SEOS-12s once they arrive. cool.gif I'll probably goose the crossover up to 1500Hz or so and see how the Eminence drivers sound up that high. Right now they sound mighty fine at 1.2KHz.
post #4624 of 9852
The SEOS12 will do fine down at 1200Hz, with a driver that can do it such as DE250 or one of Erich's 350 or 360 drivers.
post #4625 of 9852
I'm currently designing the baffles and boxes. They should be ready very soon.
post #4626 of 9852
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Originally Posted by Erich H View Post

I'm currently designing the baffles and boxes. They should be ready very soon.

oh boy, these are going to be great.

Any word on shipping CD's to Canada?
I sent you a PM but you're probably really busy so I don't want to bug ya.
Just want to order a few before they sell out.

Let me know.
Cheers.
post #4627 of 9852
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Originally Posted by bwaslo View Post

The SEOS12 will do fine down at 1200Hz, with a driver that can do it such as DE250 or one of Erich's 350 or 360 drivers.
The Radians are spec'd to go down to 800Hz with a 4th order crossover; 1200Hz is their recommended point w/ a 2nd order xo - so no worries there. That said, for the price I'd love to hear the 360.
post #4628 of 9852
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Originally Posted by Erich H View Post

I'm currently designing the baffles and boxes. They should be ready very soon.
This is what i'm waiting on...

Hoping for a tower and bookshelf.
post #4629 of 9852
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Originally Posted by Brad Horstkotte View Post

Anyone building anything? 3 posts in the last 2 days - what the?

I have started a small build using the Denovo DW-774S/DNA-150 and a Celestion TF0818. Its over on the DIYsoundgroup forum: DW-774S/DNA150 + Celestion TF0818 design/build

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post #4630 of 9852
ooh nice, I like those dual mini slot ports
post #4631 of 9852
I'm waiting for a new sound card. I was outside measuring in the worst of the heat weekend before last and I think I cooked mine!
post #4632 of 9852
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Originally Posted by Thatsnasty View Post

oh boy, these are going to be great.
Any word on shipping CD's to Canada?
I sent you a PM but you're probably really busy so I don't want to bug ya.
Just want to order a few before they sell out.
Let me know.
Cheers.

I am in Toronto and I am having a big shipment come, maybe Erich can put them together, except I wouldn't want to drive down to Niagara to pick them up.

Jos
post #4633 of 9852
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Originally Posted by AudioJosh View Post

I am in Toronto and I am having a big shipment come, maybe Erich can put them together, except I wouldn't want to drive down to Niagara to pick them up.
Jos


Your order is literally the last one on the plate because I know you have 700 other horns and waveguides to play around with. biggrin.gif


Having said that, it will be started tomorrow because today was a BIG day for me. All orders from the website have been caught up. That's big news and a relief. I think it was nearly 250 packages in the past month. That's a lot in your spare time! And one reason why I haven't posted in a little while.

Now I just need to get Mr. AudioJosh done and double check the raffle winners. Then start contacting anyone that pre-ordered but didn't contact me yet to decide on matte/gloss or any compression drivers.


The extra time will allow me to get the boxes going, more speaker designs, get the BA drivers up, and then take photos of all the left over horns and waveguides from previous group buys that people decided not to pay for after I got their stuff in. That's really been a bummer. Probably $3k worth of stuff.
post #4634 of 9852
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Originally Posted by mtg90 View Post

I have started a small build using the Denovo DW-774S/DNA-150 and a Celestion TF0818. Its over on the DIYsoundgroup forum: DW-774S/DNA150 + Celestion TF0818 design/build
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That's some sweet stuff right there! I've let down people on the DIY forum, but hoping to get more time there to organize all the designs. I really need a website guru to help me get things under control. I stink at website work.

Very soon I will be contacting the guys that have made up some speakers and get some kits going for that stuff as well. I'd like to add a little to each kit so that the designers get some type of money for doing the design. Still working on ideas for that though. I'm not sure how well the 'donation' button on the site does for the designers, so it might be better to add a few bucks to each kit. That way they will get something for their work.
post #4635 of 9852
I've not been in a hurry and it would have sat on this side for some time till I got around to setting my measurement equipment, but I am quite anxious to get those Iwata horns, as that is what I decided to go with in my speaker build, wit SEOS above....the other SEOS will be for HT system, which comes second, I am a 90% music man, hence my moniker.

My custom built tube amps are coming very soon...so I am getting excited!

I am waiting on the CNC'd flat packs for the HT speaks. I have tools, but can't be bothered as of late to bust out the stuff as I don't have a good shop space.
post #4636 of 9852
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Originally Posted by Brad Horstkotte View Post

Anyone building anything? 3 posts in the last 2 days - what the?

I am dying to start building my LCR, but I am still not sure what 12" drivers i can fit into my budget. I also have a dilema with the height of my screen. I can only fit an 18" high cabinet under it. So untill I know my budget and can figure out a center channel, I am at a stand still.
post #4637 of 9852
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Originally Posted by AudioJosh View Post

I am in Toronto and I am having a big shipment come, maybe Erich can put them together, except I wouldn't want to drive down to Niagara to pick them up.
Jos

I could pay for shipping if that's the case, but that might be more effort then its worth.
How did you even order? I don't see an option for shipping at all.
post #4638 of 9852
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Originally Posted by Erich H View Post

I really need a website guru to help me get things under control. I stink at website work.
You've done a great job with your website.
post #4639 of 9852
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Originally Posted by Krbass View Post

I also have a dilema with the height of my screen. I can only fit an 18" high cabinet under it. So untill I know my budget and can figure out a center channel, I am at a stand still.

Have you considered a phantom center?

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1420941/phantom-center-with-constant-direcitivty-speakers/0_50
post #4640 of 9852
The problems with a phantom center are that the audio track for the front speakers may be downmixed(HD/BluRay audio) and if you have a wide listening room, those sitting far off axis may have issues.
post #4641 of 9852
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Originally Posted by Erich H View Post

I'd like to add a little to each kit so that the designers get some type of money for doing the design. Still working on ideas for that though. I'm not sure how well the 'donation' button on the site does for the designers, so it might be better to add a few bucks to each kit. That way they will get something for their work.

For sure add it on; statistically you can't depend on people's gratitude/generosity for proper compensation.

Just to throw out a number, given the value we're getting, I open the bidding at $10 per XO.

I don't at all mean to put any pressure on the designers, just want to get an idea of what timeline we're talking about for completed XO designs - weeks, months ...?

Congratulations on getting the shipping done, truly heroic.
post #4642 of 9852
Hi, I know Erich is pretty busy lately so thought I'd ask here. For those of us trying to figure out how much international shipping is going to cost it would be nice to know how much the items weigh.

I'm primarily interested in plastic SEOS 12, all available CDs and the little 6 inch round waveguide.

But I'm sure it would be appreciated by us international folks if anyone with any diysoundgroup products and a scale could list the weights of the products.

If this info is already out there somewhere, please point me to it.

Thanks.
post #4643 of 9852
Not quite what you wanted, but the shipping weight of my box that contained 3 CDs and 3 waveguides was 22 pounds.
post #4644 of 9852
Okay, let's really try to get the box dimensions nailed down for these because they're ready to be cut........like right now. biggrin.gif I can't do all this figuring on my own because there are a lot of options and I'm not a speaker designer. Of course, I'm open for suggestions.

I'm figuring the narrowest baffle for the SEOS-12 while still allowing for a 3/4" roundover. That's about 14.5" wide. Height wise, I'm figuring 22" tall. I could make them 21" instead if anyone thinks it's a good idea. But the boxes will be slightly deeper. Please let me know if these groups can be narrowed down, or we should add a size. Or if you have better ideas.

14.5" x 22":

10.5" deep = 1.39 cu ft (net around 1.25)
12.5" deep = 1.69 cu ft (net around 1.5)
13.5" deep = 1.85 cu ft (net around 1.75)
15.5" deep = 2.16 cu ft (net around 2)


Here's the thing. At 22" tall, there's no room for ports on the front. We'd have to jump up around 25" to get two or three 2" ports nested on the front. That's not too bad because that's about the height needed for the SEOS-12 and a 15" woofer. So box sides could possibly be interchanged. But I think we really need something around 21"-22" tall, so I don't think we can just make all of them 25" tall, even though that would be easier.

An idea for ports on the front:

14.5" x 25" x 11.25" = 1.72 cu ft (net around 1.5)
14.5" x 25" x 14 = 2.2 cu ft (net around 2)



For the 15" woofers, the box needs to be roughly 17" wide and 25" tall.

17" x 25":

9.5" deep = 1.68 cu ft (net around 1.5 sealed?)
12" deep = 2.21 cu ft (net around 2 when ported?)



As you can see, I need ideas. biggrin.gif If anyone has a a specific dimensions on the 12" JBL, FaitalPro 12", or AE 12", or anything else please don't hold back.
post #4645 of 9852
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Originally Posted by Brad Horstkotte View Post

Not quite what you wanted, but the shipping weight of my box that contained 3 CDs and 3 waveguides was 22 pounds.

Actually that's exactly what I wanted, thanks very much. (That's plastic SEOS 12, right?)

Hopefully someone can weigh the little waveguides too, I'm guessing about 1/2 lb each.
post #4646 of 9852
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Originally Posted by diy speaker guy View Post

Hi, I know Erich is pretty busy lately so thought I'd ask here. For those of us trying to figure out how much international shipping is going to cost it would be nice to know how much the items weigh.
I'm primarily interested in plastic SEOS 12, all available CDs and the little 6 inch round waveguide.
But I'm sure it would be appreciated by us international folks if anyone with any diysoundgroup products and a scale could list the weights of the products.
If this info is already out there somewhere, please point me to it.
Thanks.


2 waveguides will weigh about 6 lbs in a double thick box.
2 waveguides and 2 drivers will weigh about 17lbs in a double thick box.


Add about 7lbs for each waveguide and CD combo.

The little waveguides and compression drivers are extremely light.


Ideally someone in your country can handle a pallet shipped directly from the manufacturer. It would be cheaper because you would only be paying for shipping once, not first shipped to me, then to you. There was a guy that helped me get all the items to one central location so things could be shipped together. I've already asked if he could help other people in other countries and he said yes.
post #4647 of 9852
I've been chatting with diy speaker guy about this Erich. Canada Post isn't that cheap. I think we talked about this, but I'd be will to accept a pallet. I'm way on the west coast though. I'm moving, but once I'm done that I'll have plenty of space to do it.
post #4648 of 9852
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Originally Posted by tuxedocivic View Post

I've been chatting with diy speaker guy about this Erich. Canada Post isn't that cheap. I think we talked about this, but I'd be will to accept a pallet. I'm way on the west coast though. I'm moving, but once I'm done that I'll have plenty of space to do it.

I think a pair of SEOS 12s and their CDs will be a very popular package.

Based on a 17 lb package 18x12x12 (random but should be more than big enough), the USPS price is $64.05 in store or $60.85 online. The Canada Post price for the same package from BC to Southwestern Ontario is $32.28.

That's almost exactly half price, and doesn't even include the $5 Canada Post surcharge for USPS packages. I think that's worth looking into.
post #4649 of 9852
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Originally Posted by noah katz View Post

Have you considered a phantom center?
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Originally Posted by Face2 View Post

The problems with a phantom center are that the audio track for the front speakers may be downmixed(HD/BluRay audio) and if you have a wide listening room, those sitting far off axis may have issues.

Yeah my concern is the size of my room, I am at 26'x24'. I like the idea of a center channel like the Malcolm. Was the malcolm designed just with the designer 12s in mind? Or ould I also be able to use them with a higher end speaker like the JBLs if I decide to go with those?
post #4650 of 9852
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Originally Posted by Erich H View Post

Okay, let's really try to get the box dimensions nailed down for these because they're ready to be cut........like right now.

Erich, aren't these to send to send to the XO designers?

If so, the box size doesn't effect most of the design, which is mostly from the XO freq on up.

I suspect it's going to be really hard to get agreement on a box size when what people want will cover the gamut; I'd just pick one of the middle sizes and call it a day.
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Originally Posted by Face2 View Post

The problems with a phantom center are that the audio track for the front speakers may be downmixed(HD/BluRay audio) and if you have a wide listening room, those sitting far off axis may have issues.

By definition it *will* be downmixed, but I'd think mixing the center into L/R is pretty benign.

As for off axis, I believe Bill said he gets a great center image in his chair which is directly in front of his R speaker; with toe-in of course.
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