Hey guys...we need a little rallying here... - Page 215

Fyi -- The AE site has dimensions (a PDF engineering drawing) for the woofers if you want to check the dimensions, such as without the gasket.

-Max

Very nice! This is very helpful to someone (like me) comparing the options and deciding what direction to go (though mine will likely be an active-crossover bastard child of a few designs). Seeing all the equipment prices and enclosure properties in a row like that really cleaned the mud off my windshield.

-Sam

just ordered a pair of zephyrs.. I will get the crossovers ready while I wait on the flatpacks to be ready to order. Erich has been super helpful over the whole process for me. I can't wait! Just don't tell my wife!

Thanks for catching that. In my rush I copied the info from the original MTG-08 speaker, pasted it there, and obviously forgot to delete that part. But I fixed it. I contacted the 2 people that already ordered a pair to see if they want a refund. Of course the kits come with the ports, I just forgot to add those into the total cost. I'll leave it like it is until the few people that asked about them make up their mind. Changing the prices before they decide wouldn't be good.

The Karma-8 is getting a slight change from the designer. The box size for the other 8" models was identical, and it just so happen to be the same volume as the original MTG-08 speaker. So Matt reworked that speaker using the same woofer and CD, but with the EOS-8 waveguide and the slot ports to decrease the overall height of the cabinet. I'm going to try and get that photo posted this weekend with the other ones. Once that change is made, and Jeff Bagby puts the finishing touches on the 8" model he's working on, we'll be pretty good to go with only 2 speakers missing from the top tier.

There are some designs that I'll put in the "Other" category, and then I'll spend time tweaking everything and getting the write ups looking better. It all takes time. Yesterday I packed up 12 packages, today I did 14. Hoping to get another 5-7 done this evening and I'll be fairly caught up. I'm starting to see the need for help.

Erich,

Are you having baffles, flat-packs or kits CNC'd for the TD12M's and the NS6's x 2?

I've got a few different sized boxes that will work for the A&E woofers and a decent number of different baffle layouts with the matching woofer cut outs. I was going to contact you by email, but might as well ask here. What exact size did you want for your boxes? The same as Mike G (AV Science Sales 5) or something different? I've got tall baffles, mid sized for a slot port, and mid sized with ports. I can cut the bottoms to the exact size you need. Just let me know, then once I know what everyone wants, that's what I'll get made up in higher volumes.

What's the height on midsize with ports? Is it double baffle?

I'll take a few baffles when you have them available for the TD12M.

Thanks

Speaking for myself here. I would be fine with the same size as Mike's (avscience5). I plan to use my speakers in the same mannner that he is using his speakers. I think a slot port is the way to go (no scientific data to back that up). I have my speakers now and am chomping at the bit to get started on my "build"

Erich, I am willing to share my cutsheet and whatnot with you for a td12 low tuned ported build if you want. I have all the stuff cut and ready to roll. ended up with an 18" deep box but at 2.5cuft I will be able to tune it at about 40hz for the td12x and the td12s should be pretty similar. Not as High efficiency, but if you cross it higher, you get some of that back. Not a bad option for those going a little bigger and want something a little more "full range" I will trade plans for some stuff to mount the DNA360's to the SEOS12's. I don't have any hardware

Agreed. Something like Mike and RobotBuny designs would work, shallow. I think some of us would have the speaker behind an AT screen also.

That is my plan also.

That goes for me as well. Mike and RobotBunny's builds seem to be quite good.

Screws should have been there to mount the CD to the SEOS. They were either in the CD box or taped to the plastic around the waveguide. M6 screws and 14mm long.

No dice dude. I think HTDoc bought the parts from you at different time so perhaps they were not thrown in at that point? I will look at lowes to see what they have

I made a form for the TD12 people so they can give Erich and idea of how many baffles need to be made. This is an unauthorized form, but I hope it helps.

Form: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dDFjT2VrZHIyRVRRNjZKMHFRYlVXVUE6MQ#gid=0

SpreadSheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aq9nNVe5UHHbdDFjT2VrZHIyRVRRNjZKMHFRYlVXVUE

Let me know if things should be added or taken away.

Mike's Build: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1433151/my-td12m-seos-12-build
RobotBunny: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1431906/seos-12-td12m-dna-360-build
beastaudio: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1448642/ae-td12x-seos12-build
Edited by pgwalsh - 1/4/13 at 9:37am

I didn't know you bought the parts from him. Depending on what was ordered and when, the bolts were in a small ziplock bag inside one of the CD boxes, or taped to the SEOS. But if someone bought a CD without a waveguide, I wouldn't have included those bolts because they would likely need a different length anyway. But virtually all did come with the bolts.

There's a chance that HTDoc was hoarding them!

I put "2" but really want 3, only that was not an option.

Fixed

Thanks for putting it together.

Signed up for 2 (for now).

Thanks

What volume do you guys need for the A&E models?

The internal volumes are listed on the form page.

I believe it's 1.1 for Mikes; 1 for robotbunny and 2.4 for beastaudio. It's what I've gathered form PM's and build threads.

Sorry, I closed that first link, then started thinking about the volume needed. I've got the 26" tall baffles and obviously the same box as Mike used. And because Smokarz only wants the baffles, that's no problem at all to make his 24.25" tall.

The slot port can be cut exactly the way you guys want, but I would have to know where on the baffle, how wide, etc. The inner corners of the slot port would have a radius from the router bit.

Just thinking about this a little more, that tall narrow box is the same volume needed for all the 10" SEOS models. So this could be another box I should get cut in a larger volume and call it the Slim Line. Heck, the same box could be used for a 12" Dayton subwoofer as well.

I'll take whatever baffles the guys come up with.

I still got a bunch of spare BB lying around that I could build the box to any size really. The baffle is the only thing holding me back.

The slot port is 13" wide 1" tall and looks to go from start right from the bottom, so 3/4 from the bottom or perhaps a little higher. I PM'd Mike.

I thought the target was an aspect ratio of 8:1 or 9:1 at the most for slotted ports?

You would be at 13:1

Thanks Mike...

Will there be a build around SEOS18 + Beyma 15P80Nd ?

How about a sealed option?
Edited by noah katz - 1/5/13 at 2:13pm