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post #6421 of 9857
Fyi -- The AE site has dimensions (a PDF engineering drawing) for the woofers if you want to check the dimensions, such as without the gasket.

-Max
post #6422 of 9857
Very nice! This is very helpful to someone (like me) comparing the options and deciding what direction to go (though mine will likely be an active-crossover bastard child of a few designs). Seeing all the equipment prices and enclosure properties in a row like that really cleaned the mud off my windshield.

-Sam
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Originally Posted by Eyleron View Post

SEOS Speaker Kit Product Matrix



Since I'd already started a grid of SEOS speaker kits I was considering, I thought I'd keep adding to it the rest (ones that are overkill or too expensive smile.gif  for me) and share the spreadsheet.

Google Drive spreadsheet of SEOS Waveguide Speaker Kits Comparison Matrix.
post #6423 of 9857
just ordered a pair of zephyrs.. I will get the crossovers ready while I wait on the flatpacks to be ready to order. Erich has been super helpful over the whole process for me. I can't wait! Just don't tell my wife!
post #6424 of 9857
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Originally Posted by Stephen Hopkins View Post

You might want to double-check or clarify the description of the Alpha-8 since the first bullet under "Included Parts" reads "1 - flat pack made from mdf with rabbet joints and recesses for drivers" and it's the only model that mentions this. Also, the ports are included in the parts list and the site picture... not sure if the price needs to be adjusted to reflect that.
If I went with Kharma-10s across the front, would you recommend matching the Kharma-8 for surrounds? I'm not sure if I'm going to go with box or in-wall surrounds yet (already have Sonance THX-LCR and THX-SUR in-walls I could recycle from my current theater), but I would assume the Kharma-8 would be a good match and up to the task.
Thanks again!


Thanks for catching that. In my rush I copied the info from the original MTG-08 speaker, pasted it there, and obviously forgot to delete that part. But I fixed it. I contacted the 2 people that already ordered a pair to see if they want a refund. Of course the kits come with the ports, I just forgot to add those into the total cost. I'll leave it like it is until the few people that asked about them make up their mind. Changing the prices before they decide wouldn't be good.

The Karma-8 is getting a slight change from the designer. The box size for the other 8" models was identical, and it just so happen to be the same volume as the original MTG-08 speaker. So Matt reworked that speaker using the same woofer and CD, but with the EOS-8 waveguide and the slot ports to decrease the overall height of the cabinet. I'm going to try and get that photo posted this weekend with the other ones. Once that change is made, and Jeff Bagby puts the finishing touches on the 8" model he's working on, we'll be pretty good to go with only 2 speakers missing from the top tier.

There are some designs that I'll put in the "Other" category, and then I'll spend time tweaking everything and getting the write ups looking better. It all takes time. Yesterday I packed up 12 packages, today I did 14. Hoping to get another 5-7 done this evening and I'll be fairly caught up. I'm starting to see the need for help. biggrin.gif
post #6425 of 9857
Erich,

Are you having baffles, flat-packs or kits CNC'd for the TD12M's and the NS6's x 2?
post #6426 of 9857
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Originally Posted by pgwalsh View Post

Erich,
Are you having baffles, flat-packs or kits CNC'd for the TD12M's and the NS6's x 2?

I've got a few different sized boxes that will work for the A&E woofers and a decent number of different baffle layouts with the matching woofer cut outs. I was going to contact you by email, but might as well ask here. What exact size did you want for your boxes? The same as Mike G (AV Science Sales 5) or something different? I've got tall baffles, mid sized for a slot port, and mid sized with ports. I can cut the bottoms to the exact size you need. Just let me know, then once I know what everyone wants, that's what I'll get made up in higher volumes.
post #6427 of 9857
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Originally Posted by Erich H View Post

I've got a few different sized boxes that will work for the A&E woofers and a decent number of different baffle layouts with the matching woofer cut outs. I was going to contact you by email, but might as well ask here. What exact size did you want for your boxes? The same as Mike G (AV Science Sales 5) or something different? I've got tall baffles, mid sized for a slot port, and mid sized with ports. I can cut the bottoms to the exact size you need. Just let me know, then once I know what everyone wants, that's what I'll get made up in higher volumes.

What's the height on midsize with ports? Is it double baffle?

I'll take a few baffles when you have them available for the TD12M.

Thanks
post #6428 of 9857
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Originally Posted by Erich H View Post

I've got a few different sized boxes that will work for the A&E woofers and a decent number of different baffle layouts with the matching woofer cut outs. I was going to contact you by email, but might as well ask here. What exact size did you want for your boxes? The same as Mike G (AV Science Sales 5) or something different? I've got tall baffles, mid sized for a slot port, and mid sized with ports. I can cut the bottoms to the exact size you need. Just let me know, then once I know what everyone wants, that's what I'll get made up in higher volumes.

Speaking for myself here. I would be fine with the same size as Mike's (avscience5). I plan to use my speakers in the same mannner that he is using his speakers. I think a slot port is the way to go (no scientific data to back that up). I have my speakers now and am chomping at the bit to get started on my "build" wink.gif
post #6429 of 9857
Erich, I am willing to share my cutsheet and whatnot with you for a td12 low tuned ported build if you want. I have all the stuff cut and ready to roll. ended up with an 18" deep box but at 2.5cuft I will be able to tune it at about 40hz for the td12x and the td12s should be pretty similar. Not as High efficiency, but if you cross it higher, you get some of that back. Not a bad option for those going a little bigger and want something a little more "full range" I will trade plans for some stuff to mount the DNA360's to the SEOS12's. I don't have any hardware mad.gif
post #6430 of 9857
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Originally Posted by Jon_B View Post

Speaking for myself here. I would be fine with the same size as Mike's (avscience5). I plan to use my speakers in the same mannner that he is using his speakers. I think a slot port is the way to go (no scientific data to back that up). I have my speakers now and am chomping at the bit to get started on my "build" wink.gif



Agreed. Something like Mike and RobotBuny designs would work, shallow. I think some of us would have the speaker behind an AT screen also.
post #6431 of 9857
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Originally Posted by smokarz View Post

I think some of us would have the speaker behind an AT screen also.

That is my plan also.
post #6432 of 9857
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Originally Posted by smokarz View Post

Agreed. Something like Mike and RobotBuny designs would work, shallow. I think some of us would have the speaker behind an AT screen also.

That goes for me as well. Mike and RobotBunny's builds seem to be quite good.
post #6433 of 9857
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Originally Posted by beastaudio View Post

I will trade plans for some stuff to mount the DNA360's to the SEOS12's. I don't have any hardware mad.gif

Screws should have been there to mount the CD to the SEOS. They were either in the CD box or taped to the plastic around the waveguide. M6 screws and 14mm long.
post #6434 of 9857
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Originally Posted by Erich H View Post

Screws should have been there to mount the CD to the SEOS. They were either in the CD box or taped to the plastic around the waveguide. M6 screws and 14mm long.

No dice dude. I think HTDoc bought the parts from you at different time so perhaps they were not thrown in at that point? I will look at lowes to see what they have smile.gif
post #6435 of 9857
I made a form for the TD12 people so they can give Erich and idea of how many baffles need to be made. This is an unauthorized form, but I hope it helps.

Form: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dDFjT2VrZHIyRVRRNjZKMHFRYlVXVUE6MQ#gid=0

SpreadSheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aq9nNVe5UHHbdDFjT2VrZHIyRVRRNjZKMHFRYlVXVUE

Let me know if things should be added or taken away.

Mike's Build: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1433151/my-td12m-seos-12-build
RobotBunny: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1431906/seos-12-td12m-dna-360-build
beastaudio: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1448642/ae-td12x-seos12-build
Edited by pgwalsh - 1/4/13 at 9:37am
post #6436 of 9857
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Originally Posted by beastaudio View Post

No dice dude. I think HTDoc bought the parts from you at different time so perhaps they were not thrown in at that point? I will look at lowes to see what they have smile.gif

I didn't know you bought the parts from him. Depending on what was ordered and when, the bolts were in a small ziplock bag inside one of the CD boxes, or taped to the SEOS. But if someone bought a CD without a waveguide, I wouldn't have included those bolts because they would likely need a different length anyway. But virtually all did come with the bolts.

There's a chance that HTDoc was hoarding them! biggrin.gif
post #6437 of 9857
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Originally Posted by pgwalsh View Post

I made a form for the TD12 people so they can give Erich and idea of how many baffles need to be made. This is an unauthorized form, but I hope it helps.
Form: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dDFjT2VrZHIyRVRRNjZKMHFRYlVXVUE6MQ#gid=0
SpreadSheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aq9nNVe5UHHbdDFjT2VrZHIyRVRRNjZKMHFRYlVXVUE
Let me know if things should be added or taken away.
Mike's Build: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1433151/my-td12m-seos-12-build
RobotBunny: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1431906/seos-12-td12m-dna-360-build
beastaudio: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1448642/ae-td12x-seos12-build

I put "2" but really want 3, only that was not an option.
post #6438 of 9857
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Originally Posted by Jon_B View Post

I put "2" but really want 3, only that was not an option.
Fixed
post #6439 of 9857
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Originally Posted by pgwalsh View Post

I made a form for the TD12 people so they can give Erich and idea of how many baffles need to be made. This is an unauthorized form, but I hope it helps.
Form: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dDFjT2VrZHIyRVRRNjZKMHFRYlVXVUE6MQ#gid=0
SpreadSheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aq9nNVe5UHHbdDFjT2VrZHIyRVRRNjZKMHFRYlVXVUE
Let me know if things should be added or taken away.
Mike's Build: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1433151/my-td12m-seos-12-build
RobotBunny: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1431906/seos-12-td12m-dna-360-build
beastaudio: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1448642/ae-td12x-seos12-build



Thanks for putting it together.

Signed up for 2 (for now).
post #6440 of 9857
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Originally Posted by pgwalsh View Post

Fixed

Thanks
post #6441 of 9857
What volume do you guys need for the A&E models?
post #6442 of 9857
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Originally Posted by Erich H View Post

What volume do you guys need for the A&E models?
The internal volumes are listed on the form page.

I believe it's 1.1 for Mikes; 1 for robotbunny and 2.4 for beastaudio. It's what I've gathered form PM's and build threads.
post #6443 of 9857
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Originally Posted by pgwalsh View Post

The internal volumes are listed on the form page.
I believe it's 1.1 for Mikes; 1 for robotbunny and 2.4 for beastaudio. It's what I've gathered form PM's and build threads.

Sorry, I closed that first link, then started thinking about the volume needed. I've got the 26" tall baffles and obviously the same box as Mike used. And because Smokarz only wants the baffles, that's no problem at all to make his 24.25" tall.

The slot port can be cut exactly the way you guys want, but I would have to know where on the baffle, how wide, etc. The inner corners of the slot port would have a radius from the router bit.

Just thinking about this a little more, that tall narrow box is the same volume needed for all the 10" SEOS models. So this could be another box I should get cut in a larger volume and call it the Slim Line. Heck, the same box could be used for a 12" Dayton subwoofer as well.
post #6444 of 9857
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Originally Posted by Erich H View Post

Sorry, I closed that first link, then started thinking about the volume needed. I've got the 26" tall baffles and obviously the same box as Mike used. And because Smokarz only wants the baffles, that's no problem at all to make his 24.25" tall.
The slot port can be cut exactly the way you guys want, but I would have to know where on the baffle, how wide, etc. The inner corners of the slot port would have a radius from the router bit.
Just thinking about this a little more, that tall narrow box is the same volume needed for all the 10" SEOS models. So this could be another box I should get cut in a larger volume and call it the Slim Line. Heck, the same box could be used for a 12" Dayton subwoofer as well.


I'll take whatever baffles the guys come up with.

I still got a bunch of spare BB lying around that I could build the box to any size really. The baffle is the only thing holding me back.
post #6445 of 9857
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Originally Posted by Erich H View Post

Sorry, I closed that first link, then started thinking about the volume needed. I've got the 26" tall baffles and obviously the same box as Mike used. And because Smokarz only wants the baffles, that's no problem at all to make his 24.25" tall.
The slot port can be cut exactly the way you guys want, but I would have to know where on the baffle, how wide, etc. The inner corners of the slot port would have a radius from the router bit.
Just thinking about this a little more, that tall narrow box is the same volume needed for all the 10" SEOS models. So this could be another box I should get cut in a larger volume and call it the Slim Line. Heck, the same box could be used for a 12" Dayton subwoofer as well.

The slot port is 13" wide 1" tall and looks to go from start right from the bottom, so 3/4 from the bottom or perhaps a little higher. I PM'd Mike.
post #6446 of 9857
I thought the target was an aspect ratio of 8:1 or 9:1 at the most for slotted ports?

You would be at 13:1
post #6447 of 9857
Exterior, 14.5" wide, 26" high and 10.75" deep. My slot port uses the bottom of the box for one side. My slot is 1" high and 13" wide. In other words full width of the cabinet. The design length of the port is 9" I believe. You then subtract off the end conditions to get actual length. After doing so, I think my actual length was 8.5". I went 13:1, because I did not want to take more volume from the box.
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post #6448 of 9857
Thanks Mike... biggrin.gif
post #6449 of 9857
Will there be a build around SEOS18 + Beyma 15P80Nd ?
post #6450 of 9857
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Originally Posted by pgwalsh View Post

I made a form for the TD12 people so they can give Erich and idea of how many baffles need to be made. This is an unauthorized form, but I hope it helps.
Form: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dDFjT2VrZHIyRVRRNjZKMHFRYlVXVUE6MQ#gid=0
SpreadSheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aq9nNVe5UHHbdDFjT2VrZHIyRVRRNjZKMHFRYlVXVUE

How about a sealed option?
Edited by noah katz - 1/5/13 at 2:13pm
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