Hey guys, I have some SEOS and DIYsoundgroup related questions I hope you can help me with.
I'm in the processing of choosing a design and doing a stereo pair build for my garage workshop and outdoor parties. I am starting a theater project and home remodel soon so these will likely get used for sound either in my workshop and garage or moved into the project area (whole second floor frame up remodel) or my theater.
I am looking for something with good output for parties, and such. I tend to crank it up when I working to hear it well over drills, saws etc.. and because like to rock out
. I have a subwoofer (dual 15" ported) running off a crown 402 (old XLR model) so bottom end extension is less important to me. Size and looks of the speaker and cabinet do not matter much at all. I would like something that has good output, good sound, and good value. This is being built to be used, and will get used. It will get beat on, moved around etc. I don't care if it get's chipped finish, or a little sawdust or paint or spackle on them. But as such I don't want to go with a $1000 build. My budget is probably $200-$300 or even possibly $400 but I am flexible on this all. It's more a matter of value, and how much do I want to invest into this. If I could get a bunch more sound and output for a little more $ I would consider it, but if it's really small I would save the cash.
-My first try DIY speaker project (Learn, make mistakes, gain experience on a project that would allow for such)
-Very high value
-Good sound and output.
I am having a problem understanding the differences between a Karma, Fusion, Alpha Minion etc. I understand they have different designers and use different parts but what I do not understand is what the difference in those parts is or the difference in the results of the kits. Looking for some good advice!
The Karma 8 looks like a winner. It uses the 8" Celestion for $49 which seems reasonable - and a cheaper tweeter. The price is in my budget area. But I have no clue how it sounds, how loud it plays etc..
What I really want to try to understand is exactly what do I get if I spend a little more. For Example the Alpha 8 Minion uses a higher quality B&C driver for $108 right ? So I assume there is something there, but I have trouble understanding it. Also uses the DNA205 tweeter- so again I assume something there too. Just don't really understand what it is. Am I right in thinking that the extra cost of the Alpha 8 Minion gives you more output and better sound ? If so- that seems legit for my purpose. But is it too much ? My understanding is the Alpha 8 has more output right ?
So how does that compare to a like priced Karma 12 ?? The Karma 12 looks like a good option for me too - it uses an affordable Eminence Delta-12A 12" Driver 8 Ohm for $79. Cheaper than the 8" from the Alpha. And it uses the DNA350. Am I right in assuming the 12" might have about the same output for about the same cost by having a bigger driver and tweeter ? How does the Karma 12 compare to the Alpha Minion ? What's better about each and why ?
Then again I could step up to a better larger kit like the "PRO" version of the drive the Eminence Delta Pro-12A 12" for $135 and a DNA360. Am I right in again thinking the better PRO driver and the better 360 tweeter will give better sound? Or louder?
Someone help me pick a sub $400 pair I can use for outdoor parties, and workshop and general sound. I'd like to do a project, but since this is not my main speaker or theater project I don't want to break the bank just yet. I am looking for some good advice and value. Thoughts?EDIT: Should I start my own thread and delete this post ?
One more thing: I have some cheaper consumer grade NADY 15" PA speakers that use a crappy tweeter and horn guide, with a 15" driver. The tweeter is just poor quality and cheap, but the cabinet is great and I am assuming something like a DNA360 would dig down deep enough to blend up with the 15" driver in the speakers. So I am also considering purchasing the DNA360 and a SEOS12 waveguide and Frankenstien upgrade my existing PA speakers (with blown crappy tweeters stock) as a hold over to save my costs. My intention would be to purchase and build at a later (soon) date a better 12" or 15" kit that uses the DNA360 and transplant them with the new crossover, cabinet, and driver.
Worth doing a whole kit versus just buying a SEOS12 waveguide and DNA360 and using my existing 15" PA speaker with bad tweeters and Frankenstein upgrade it ? I am not sure if Erich would even sell just the DNA360 without a full kit ?