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post #9031 of 9844
I couldn't find the mini-elliptical anywhere on DIYSG. Or the EOS4. (Are they the same WG?)
post #9032 of 9844
You're right. I think Erich took them down. Maybe he ran out. It was great and very small. I matched it up to the peerless 830656 and loved it.
post #9033 of 9844
I'm now assembling the mini elliptical here. I took them down because I was waiting on some other things to arrive. But I do have some if you need them.
post #9034 of 9844
I have 3 seos-10's on pre-order (LRC). If I plan on getting a kit once they are set (5.0 setup), should I finalize the pre-order, or wait and order all at once to save a bit on shipping?
post #9035 of 9844

EricH, sorry to be a pain but...can I get some info on the 18" ported subwoofer flatpack that you will be offering soon??

It looks like it should be a little larger then the dual opposed version if you would use a max of 2 (4x8) mdf sheets.

I am looking to get a UXL-18 with around 2000 watts rms of power and I don't really want to do sealed.

Can you give me some tidbits like outer dimesion size, port size (if round), port length, tuning point, etc??

thanks

post #9036 of 9844
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Originally Posted by tuxedocivic View Post

The mini elliptical is a rad little item also.

+1, I used them in my surrounds and was pleasantly surprised by their performance (I ran them as mains for a couple days, to get a good listening experience), even moreso when you look at the price... Very smooth and clear, no offensiveness at all, good directivity. In the spring, I'm putting together a docking station sorta deal with my step daughter ( a small L&R with the 6.5" TB sub and Dayton 2.1 plate amp and a BT module) and even she, an 11 y/o little girl, said how nice those MEs sounded and asked if we could use a set of them on her project.

I need to pick up a couple more Aura NS6's from the used market to keep on hand, so in the future if I want to go to 7 channels I can whip up another pair of Mini-Eliptical+NS6 speakers... The ME in surrounds really matches up well to my SEOS-12 mains.
Edited by Jason Galloway - 1/24/14 at 10:17am
post #9037 of 9844
Erich, you have PM smile.gif
post #9038 of 9844
I received my SEOS-15 waveguides today. For $35 each, its hard to complain. Heck it would be hard to complain at 3x the price. They look excellent and were packaged quite well. Now I wish I had the rest of my parts and a friendly thermometer reading. smile.gif

Thanks Erich!

post #9039 of 9844
ohh nice, i should prob finilize my order, however i have no idea what im gonna do with them
post #9040 of 9844
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Originally Posted by Vinculum View Post

I received my SEOS-15 waveguides today. For $35 each, its hard to complain. Heck it would be hard to complain at 3x the price. They look excellent and were packaged quite well. Now I wish I had the rest of my parts and a friendly thermometer reading. smile.gif

Thanks Erich!


Niiiaaaceee

I really want to grab some of these too...just don't know for what biggrin.gif
post #9041 of 9844
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Originally Posted by Sibuna View Post

ohh nice, i should prob finilize my order, however i have no idea what im gonna do with them

In time you will..... biggrin.gif

The SEOS-15 looks really good. They did take a few months of additional time to get them made the way I wanted, but it was worth it after seeing them. Really nice finish, extra thick material, just a great looking waveguide all around.
post #9042 of 9844
I've been thinking a nice speaker would be the Celestion ftr15-3070c mated to the DNA-360 and SEOS 15. That would be a heck of a lot of speaker for under $700 per pair. Certainly not a budget friendly option, but LCR for a grand is a pretty common budget. And that would be a lot of firepower for a grand.
post #9043 of 9844
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Originally Posted by tuxedocivic View Post

I've been thinking a nice speaker would be the Celestion ftr15-3070c mated to the DNA-360 and SEOS 15. That would be a heck of a lot of speaker for under $700 per pair. Certainly not a budget friendly option, but LCR for a grand is a pretty common budget. And that would be a lot of firepower for a grand.

Curious how it would be different from sentinel ? smile.gif
post #9044 of 9844
The sentinel uses the SEOS 12, so it would afford the benefits of the larger waveguide. Likely a 900hz XO.
post #9045 of 9844
And the woofer just interests me.
post #9046 of 9844
I have been thinking about building one of these to get started http://www.diysoundgroup.com/waveguide-speaker-kits/fusion-series-kits/fusion4-kit.html

And was wondering if I could use it as a sound bar. If that might work, how could I amp it? This would be for my living room tv which we watch movies on and listen to music on.
post #9047 of 9844
Made a cardboard cutout of a SEOS Tempest build that I am considering ( almost certain, I even have all the parts in my DIY Sound basket). It is a 40" tower design with an added 14" base that will be isolated from the speaker cabinet volume, but integral. I used the cutout to see how it would fit on my front stage. Perfectly!. Now I have to figure how I can modify my existing cabinet for an Fusion 8 Alchemy to fit for the center. I have 26 x 10 x 16 w x h x d opening now. I will need to remove the uprights that are 26" apart and move them out. There is also a trim piece at the top of this speaker opening that needs to be removed to get the 10" necessary. It is currently only 9.5" . I certainly want the speaker to hang out front of the cabinet a little like my RC-7 does now. The cabinet was bulit to fit the TV and the speaker (if you can't tell).

Cabinet


Center Speaker Overhang


Front Stage - only one of the subs in is the picture, number 2 is on the far right a few inches from the side wall facing into that wall.


Front Stage with Cutout
post #9048 of 9844
before you do anything with your TV cabinet, try the Tempests with a phantom center. you will be surprised at how good it is and it could save you a lot of trouble and some cash.
post #9049 of 9844
I can handle the TV cabinet modification, I have the tools. I much prefer to have a center channel.
post #9050 of 9844
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Originally Posted by tuxedocivic View Post

And the woofer just interests me.

Tux cause I'm curious what about it interests you?


Personally I'd like to see a design with the faital pro 15fx560 because I think the 8 sided woofer baskets are sexy
post #9051 of 9844
I have one of those FaitalPro woofers. It's too expensive for the Fusion line, but it's a nice woofer.
post #9052 of 9844
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Originally Posted by Claybe View Post

I have been thinking about building one of these to get started http://www.diysoundgroup.com/waveguide-speaker-kits/fusion-series-kits/fusion4-kit.html

And was wondering if I could use it as a sound bar. If that might work, how could I amp it? This would be for my living room tv which we watch movies on and listen to music on.

For a small unobtrusive $44 solution, you might try THIS 15 wpc class T amplifier. it is small enough to fit in the palm of your hand:



Run a line out from the HDTV's headphone jack to the amp, then regular speaker wire to the speakers.

I have one I use for experimenting with different speakers, and it is currently running a pair of 15" Celestion midwoofers and a pair of DNA-360 compression drivers in SEOS 12 waveguides, output through my PC. It is loud enough to be heard throughout my entire house, with 15 wpc, and it is super clean power. It even comes with the little cable you need to make the connection.

I don't own this Lepai amp, but it looks good for $26, and has treble and bass controls:
http://www.parts-express.com/lepai-lp-2020a-tripath-class-t-hi-fi-audio-mini-amplifier-with-power-supply--310-300
Edited by wvu80 - 1/26/14 at 1:17pm
post #9053 of 9844
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Originally Posted by Erich H View Post

I have one of those FaitalPro woofers. It's too expensive for the Fusion line, but it's a nice woofer.

How about for the Erich line , for the top dog status cool.gif
post #9054 of 9844
There is an Alpha Line, but not sure which way it's going yet.
post #9055 of 9844
Quote:
How about for the Erich line, for the top dog status cool.gif (Chalug)
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Originally Posted by Erich H View Post

There is an Alpha Line, but not sure which way it's going yet.

Translation: (from Erich) You're not going to name it after me! tongue.gif
post #9056 of 9844
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Originally Posted by Sibuna View Post

Tux cause I'm curious what about it interests you?


Personally I'd like to see a design with the faital pro 15fx560 because I think the 8 sided woofer baskets are sexy

I didnt give celestion a second thought until recently. Bill tried that cheap thrills woofer. Matt used that little 8" (the 0808 or something) and I really liked those mids I used in the tux10-99. Looking at their lineup I am interested in all the ftr woofers. They look look performers. Unibox has these making an easy 80hz XO and even full range music if you push it. All for a great price.
post #9057 of 9844
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Originally Posted by wvu80 View Post

For a small unobtrusive $44 solution, you might try THIS 15 wpc class T amplifier. it is small enough to fit in the palm of your hand:



Run a line out from the HDTV's headphone jack to the amp, then regular speaker wire to the speakers.

I have one I use for experimenting with different speakers, and it is currently running a pair of 15" Celestion midwoofers and a pair of DNA-360 compression drivers in SEOS 12 waveguides, output through my PC. It is loud enough to be heard throughout my entire house, with 15 wpc, and it is super clean power. It even comes with the little cable you need to make the connection.

I don't own this Lepai amp, but it looks good for $26, and has treble and bass controls:
http://www.parts-express.com/lepai-lp-2020a-tripath-class-t-hi-fi-audio-mini-amplifier-with-power-supply--310-300

This is perfect! Thanks. I have a cable box. Could I just run out from that to this amp and then to the speakers? Also will the volume on the cable box control the volume of the speaker? Also how would the fusion quad 4 work as a sound bar for the tv?
post #9058 of 9844
quote name="Claybe" url="/t/1291022/hey-guys-we-need-a-little-rallying-here/9050_50#post_24270388"]
This is perfect! Thanks. I have a cable box. Could I just run out from that to this amp and then to the speakers?
If you have an audio out from the cable box like an RCA plug, all you is the other end to be a standard 3.5 mm plug into the mini-amp.

Also will the volume on the cable box control the volume of the speaker?
If you do it like you are suggesting, then yes. I run my little amp around 3/4 full volume, then let my computer (or TV remote) control the volume. If you are interested in the Dayton Audio DTA-1 like I have, it does an amazing job for its small size. It has a slightly rubberized black texture, and it is so light if you wanted you could mount it with velcro to nearly any solid surface. I have also run this off my HDTV with the headphone jack, and then let the TV control the volume. If you are planning to have it run just the Quad 4, the Fusion designs are so efficient this amp should be able to run the Quad 4 only just fine.

Also how would the fusion quad 4 work as a sound bar for the tv?[/quote
That Fusion Quad 4 looks sweet, and has come onto the DIY Soundgroup site in the last week, so you may be the first one writing a review! My current center is a little too tall for the 5.1 setup in my living room, and I wish that Quad 4 was around when I started putting together my system, it is exactly what I needed,
Edited by wvu80 - 1/27/14 at 6:27am
post #9059 of 9844
Hi all-

My dad has enlisted me to help him restore a pair of Original Large Advents that have been sitting in his crawlspace, and I've talked him into putting waveguides on them. I came across this crossover from bwaslo earlier in the thread for the Advent woofer paired with the SEOS 12.
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Originally Posted by bwaslo View Post

Without all the drama and detail of the previous, here is a design using the 10" Advent woofer in the same (Advent) box. Directivity will be pretty much the same (since it uses the same waveguide), crossover is at 1200Hz.



http://www.avsforum.com/t/1291022/hey-guys-we-need-a-little-rallying-here/3120#post_21765435

Does anybody know whether this crossover would work with the SEOS 10? The SEOS 12 is a bit too large for the OLA cabinet, but it looks like the SEOS 10 would fit perfectly. On the other hand, the 1200hz crossover point looks like it would be pushing the lower limits of the SEOS 10. My other options would be to try trimming the edges of the SEOS 12 to fit, or to use a standard econowave configuration.

Thanks!
post #9060 of 9844
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Originally Posted by tuxedocivic View Post

I've been thinking a nice speaker would be the Celestion ftr15-3070c mated to the DNA-360 and SEOS 15. That would be a heck of a lot of speaker for under $700 per pair. Certainly not a budget friendly option, but LCR for a grand is a pretty common budget. And that would be a lot of firepower for a grand.

I'd really be interested in seeing that SEOS-15/Celestion combo... I found a tube amplifier in a pile of junk in excellent shape (FREE, the only type of tube amp I'd consider wink.gif )that I'm restoring to make a nice 2-channel setup for my bedroom, I was looking for a very VERY high sensitivity design to mate to them, and that Celestion driver got my attention (going by spec-sheets alone). Probably pick up some small digital amp from PE to feed them the TV's signal too.
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