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post #31 of 87
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Well, I just saw this over the weekend..and I was totally underwhelmed. I don't know if the story was just too slow and plodding or the characters not interesting, or most importantly the action nowhere near what Chloe Moretz brought in Kick Ass.

It kinda reminded me of The American- too art house Euro+ lame-o action

3.5/10

What a disappointment!

Victor
post #32 of 87
That may explain some things like why the much lower budget one arm girl Soul Surfer beat out the bigger name casts genetic trained killer girl at the weekend's box office. Regardless good or bad, I will still catch this when it's released on video simply the girl kicking-ass/assassin genre is just too good to pass up.
post #33 of 87
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zoey,

If that's what you're looking for, you're in for a big disappointment
post #34 of 87
It depends, if it's slim pickins at the video stores and red box like it is right now where there are virtually nothing decent to rent to at the moment then I probably have no choice. I checked out all 3 of the Girl with dragon tatoo/ played with fire series and have no idea what ppl see with that one either. Talk about lame euro-art-action, and it was like watching grass grow. And then yesterday I thought I had found a diamond in the rough with Carriers but that was pretty crappy too.

Btw don't you think it's funny that you hated this movie now after you've seen it when it was you who was the OP gleaming with excitement when you found out about it? I've done it too and hate having too bring the bad news.
post #35 of 87
I still plan to see Hanna in the theater, although I have some reservations about it. Most of the critics with whom I most often agree rather liked Hanna and IMDb voters have been positive, too, giving it an average score of 7.7 Stars out of 10. All of that is no guarantee, of course, but it gives me enough encouragement to still want to see it.
post #36 of 87
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Btw don't you think it's funny that you hated this movie now after you've seen it when it was you who was the OP gleaming with excitement when you found out about it? I've done it too and hate having too bring the bad news.

That's whats most disappointing about it. I loved Hit Girl, and when I saw a sneak preview of Hanna I thought "Cool, now a whole movie about her (or her type of character"

Alas, yet another Hollywood smoke and mirrors act. Great setup- lousy execution.

Victor
post #37 of 87
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Originally Posted by victor-eyd View Post

Well, I just saw this over the weekend..and I was totally underwhelmed. I don't know if the story was just too slow and plodding or the characters not interesting, or most importantly the action nowhere near what Chloe Moretz brought in Kick Ass.

It kinda reminded me of The American- too art house Euro+ lame-o action

3.5/10

What a disappointment!

Victor

That is too bad. It reminded me of Moretz in Kick Ass too

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Originally Posted by zoey67 View Post

That may explain some things like why the much lower budget one arm girl Soul Surfer beat out the bigger name casts genetic trained killer girl at the weekend's box office. Regardless good or bad, I will still catch this when it's released on video simply the girl kicking-ass/assassin genre is just too good to pass up.

FUNNY. (but true )

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Btw don't you think it's funny that you hated this movie now after you've seen it when it was you who was the OP gleaming with excitement when you found out about it? I've done it too and hate having too bring the bad news.

Funny.
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That's whats most disappointing about it. I loved Hit Girl, and when I saw a sneak preview of Hanna I thought "Cool, now a whole movie about her (or her type of character"

Alas, yet another Hollywood smoke and mirrors act. Great setup- lousy execution.

Victor

CONSTANTLY ask myself "doesn't anyone double check these movies WHILE they are making them?" Pixar gives you a character set up where you LEARN to care about the character and then the ride starts and it is that much more rewarding and immersive an experience. Instead many movies just expect you to believe in the character, or sequence of events, without going through the learning process.
post #38 of 87
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Originally Posted by victor-eyd View Post

That's whats most disappointing about it. I loved Hit Girl, and when I saw a sneak preview of Hanna I thought "Cool, now a whole movie about her (or her type of character"

Alas, yet another Hollywood smoke and mirrors act. Great setup- lousy execution.

Victor

Sit tight Victor, you'll be rewarded soon when our Hit girl co-stars with Blake lively...another live wire with a movie called Hick. That's not a bad 2 for 1 if you ask me. I think Chloe will be the Natalie portman for this decade. I predicted long ago after seeing Leon for Natalie and I'll say it now, there will be a gold statue for Chloe too sometime in the near future. Im terrible in picking stocks but when it comes to young up and coming actresses I'm like Warren buffet.
post #39 of 87
I saw Hanna today and liked it a lot. It's dark and it"s odd but it is very well made and held my interest from beginning to end. Although a few attempts were made at humor along the way, I thought they were a mistake because there is not much funny about either Hanna or her story. It was fun to see Tom Hollander as Marissa's weird blonde henchman. As usual, Cate Blanchett was luminous and Eric Bana was excellent, too.

I was blown away by Saoirse Ronan's performance in Atonement when she was 12 years old and thought she was perhaps even more impressive in Hanna because she carried the picture. Ronan appeared in virtually every scene and managed to be both appealing and scary. In this connection, I see little connection between Hanna and Hit-Girl in Kick-Ass. Wonderfully entertaining though Kick-Ass was, it was campy and often, very funny. Thus, the hugely appealing Chloe Moritz was far more effective for comic relief than the Hanna character was ever meant to be.

Anyway, I really liked Hanna, 9 Stars out of 10.
post #40 of 87
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I saw Hanna today and liked it a lot. It's dark and it"s odd but it is very well made and held my interest from beginning to end. Although a few attempts were made at humor along the way, I thought they were a mistake because there is not much funny about either Hanna or her story. It was fun to see Tom Hollander as Marissa's weird blonde henchman. As usual, Cate Blanchett was luminous and Eric Bana was excellent, too.

I was blown away by Saoirse Ronan's performance in Atonement when she was 12 years old and thought she was perhaps even more impressive in Hanna because she carried the picture. Ronan appeared in virtually every scene and managed to be both appealing and scary. In this connection, I see little connection between Hanna and Hit-Girl in Kick-Ass. Wonderfully entertaining though Kick-Ass was, it was campy and often, very funny. Thus, the hugely appealing Chloe Moritz was far more effective for comic relief than the Hanna character was ever meant to be.

Anyway, I really liked Hanna, 9 Stars out of 10.

Good to hear gwsat. I'll definitley put this on my list of must see movies.
post #41 of 87
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Originally Posted by victor-eyd View Post

Well, I just saw this over the weekend..and I was totally underwhelmed. I don't know if the story was just too slow and plodding or the characters not interesting, or most importantly the action nowhere near what Chloe Moretz brought in Kick Ass.

It kinda reminded me of The American- too art house Euro+ lame-o action

3.5/10

What a disappointment!

Victor

Well, I really liked the American, which was a good throw back[ to me anyway] into 60's and 70's French crime dramas I grew up with, and I'm not surprised it wasn't popular here in the US, considering the crap Hollywood makes today in that genre. Your dismissal of this film might prove to be my endorsement after all, but I won't know till actually I see it.
post #42 of 87
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Originally Posted by victor-eyd View Post

Well, I just saw this over the weekend..and I was totally underwhelmed. I don't know if the story was just too slow and plodding or the characters not interesting, or most importantly the action nowhere near what Chloe Moretz brought in Kick Ass.

It kinda reminded me of The American- too art house Euro+ lame-o action

3.5/10

What a disappointment!

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Well, I really liked the American, which was a good throw back[ to me anyway] into 60's and 70's French crime dramas I grew up with, and I'm not surprised it wasn't popular here in the US, considering the crap Hollywood makes today in that genre. Your dismissal of this film might prove to be my endorsement after all, but I won't know till actually I see it.

I agree with Victor's negative assessment of The American, "art house Euro+ lame-o action," indeed. I liked Hanna much more, though, although it does bear some similarity to The American. The big difference in the two films to me was that Saoirse Ronan was much better cast as the assassin in Hanna that George Clooney was in The American. Clooney is at his best when he can use his charming bad boy persona as he did in the Oceans films, Oh Brother, Where Art Thou, and Up in the Air. In the American, though, he was utterly humorless and it just didn't work for me. Ronan, though, convinced me that she was part struggling adolescent and part super-skilled killer. Also, Hanna costarred Cate Blanchett, which is always a good thing.
post #43 of 87
I thought this was merely an ok movie overall. The first half hour or so was amazing, but after that we got pretty much a regular movie with some flashes of brilliance, but nothing that ever moved past alright overall to me. Some aspects were way too cliche and predictable, some parts felt like they were lifted from a totally different movie as they felt very different from the remaining parts of the movie. I wanted to love this movie, but I just ended up kinda liking it.
post #44 of 87
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I agree with Victor's negative assessment of The American, "art house Euro+ lame-o action," indeed. I liked Hanna much more, though, although it does bear some similarity to The American. The big difference in the two films to me was that Saoirse Ronan was much better cast as the assassin in Hanna that George Clooney was in The American. Clooney is at his best when he can use his charming bad boy persona as he did in the Oceans films, Oh Brother, Where Art Thou, and Up in the Air. In the American, though, he was utterly humorless and it just didn't work for me. Ronan, though, convinced me that she was part struggling adolescent and part super-skilled killer. Also, Hanna costarred Cate Blanchett, which is always a good thing.

On the contrary... I don't necessarily like everything Clooney does, but I felt he made a more convincing assassin than the anemic Ronan... not a bad performance, just an unbelievable character.

Speaking of Clooney and those semi-comedic roles, we recently rewatched Burn After Reading and I had forgotten what a hilarious character he portrayed. I wish the Coen bros made more movies like that.

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I was blown away by Saoirse Ronan's performance in Atonement ...

Well, that explains a lot. We suffered thru that film looking for whatever it was that everyone thought was so great, but it never appeared.
post #45 of 87
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OK, guys, because of my confidence in your judgment and high regard for Ronan's talent I have put The Lovely Bones BD in my BB queue. Be advised, though, if I hate it, it will be all your fault.

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I think youll enjoy it gwsat. I was a bit apprehensive before I watched it but after viewing I loved it. It did make me upset though being a father, just makes me wonder about this crazy world we live in.

Let me know what you think gwast

Finally saw The Lovely Bones and found it to be a mixed bag. On the positive side, it has a remarkably talented ensemble cast and is imaginative and visually stunning. It'd DTS-HD MA soundtrack is also outstanding. Saoirse Ronan was wonderful, as usual.

My problem with The Lovely Bones was its inability to strike a consistent tone. It seemed to jerk back and forth between beautiful and weirdly uplifting fantasy, and jarringly dark, dreary, hard to take, reality. IMDb voters gave it an average score of 6.6 Stars out of 10, which comes close to my own assessment of the film.
post #46 of 87
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Finally saw The Lovely Bones and found it to be a mixed bag. On the positive side, it has a remarkably talented ensemble cast and is imaginative and visually stunning. It'd DTS-HD MA soundtrack is also outstanding. Saoirse Ronan was wonderful, as usual.

My problem with The Lovely Bones was its inability to strike a consistent tone. It seemed to jerk back and forth between beautiful and weirdly uplifting fantasy, and jarringly dark, dreary, hard to take, reality. IMDb voters gave it an average score of 6.6 Stars out of 10, which comes close to my own assessment of the film.

You gave it a go thats the main thing gwsat. For me I was the opposite the whole film was film was fantastic I gave it an 8.
post #47 of 87
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You gave it a go thats the main thing gwsat. For me I was the opposite the whole film was film was fantastic I gave it an 8.

Although, as noted earlier, I thought The Lovely Bones ultimately failed, I would be hard pressed to find a film with more beautiful images and sound. It was well worth the time I spent on it. Now, I have to read the book, which I have on hand but have not yet worked up my nerve to start.
post #48 of 87
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Although, as noted earlier, I thought The Lovely Bones ultimately failed, I would be hard pressed to find a film with more beautiful images and sound. It was well worth the time I spent on it. Now, I have to read the book, which I have on hand but have not yet worked up my nerve to start.

I would like to read the book but was told it goes into depth on what happens to the girl. I don't know if I can handle that.
post #49 of 87
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So, have you seen the film you are commenting on?

Have you seen female MMA participants? Most are not overly muscular, but could probably disable many (non-trained) men.

Obviously a small woman, or man, would be at a disadvantage in a real fight. But this is a movie, not reality. BTW, Royce Gracie won the first UFC tournament against much, much, larger men. Technique comes first, then strength and size.

Art

Royce gracie won the first UFC yes, but he was far from a little girl fighting grown men, and there were also rules that worked in his favor.

While I can believe that a woman is capable of beating a man in a physical confrontation, up to a point. I'd have to agree that Ronan was pretty much unbelievable doing it in this movie, and female MMA fighters are not only trained, but far stronger than a typical woman, and I'd have to disagree that they'd be able to disable most men, unless they took a man by surprise. Genetically altered or not, I never understand movies where young girls who look like a piece of bread would show through in their stomachs can beat up a large man who also makes a living killing people, especially when their technique and speed is not all that impressive or out of the ordinary.
post #50 of 87
Drove to town today to pick up the new BD.
Big frickin' mistake.

The rep this movie earned has doesn't pan out.
Just another one of those Style over Substance flicks the has been crapped out by the Hollywood Machine over the last few years.

Excellent cinematography.
Interesting and beautifully framed shots throughout the film.
All wasted on a poorly executed story (gotta admit the plot is stupid to begin with).

Logic problems and WTF moments are serious teeth grinders.

The conclusion is just plain ordinary idiocy.
The BD has an Alternate Ending....it's actually MORE idiotic.

Give this filmmaker a better script and Hanna might have been a nice fantasy.
As it is, dog poo.
post #51 of 87
I saw Hanna during its theatrical run back in April. I had eagerly anticipated it, being a big Joe Wright fan, and thinking Saoirse Ronan was incredible in Atonement. I was also intrigued by the premise, and of course I am also a big Cate Blanchett fan (how could you not be?).

I liked it OK, but would rate it only a 6 out of 10. I also found the idea of Ronan being genetically engineered to be a killer a stretch. I could understand her being reared to be an assassin from birth in remote woods near the Arctic, but her physique and carriage do fall short of the genetically engineered thing.

In contrast, a film with a similar premise I did enjoy immensely was Salt, which I'm surprised no one in this thread has mentioned. I expected it to be silly Hollywood fare, and I suppose in a way it is, but I was shocked at how much I really enjoyed it. In fact, I liked it so much I have watched it on BD about 6 times. Angelina Jolie is convincing as a badass fighter and killer. I think it's more her carriage and her demeanor when she turns badass than just her physique. After all, Bruce Lee weighed about 130 lbs in fighting shape, and he kicked the sh!t out of Chuck Norris, and convincingly so. Jolie makes a terrific action hero, and she is as convincing as any male action hero, even if the plot is silly and commensurate with your slightly better than average action movie.

Saoirse Ronan just isn't an action hero.
post #52 of 87
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I saw Hanna during its theatrical run back in April. I had eagerly anticipated it, being a big Joe Wright fan, and thinking Saoirse Ronan was incredible in Atonement. I was also intrigued by the premise, and of course I am also a big Cate Blanchett fan (how could you not be?).

I liked it OK, but would rate it only a 6 out of 10. I also found the idea of Ronan being genetically engineered to be a killer a stretch. I could understand her being reared to be an assassin from birth in remote woods near the Arctic, but her physique and carriage do fall short of the genetically engineered thing.

In contrast, a film with a similar premise I did enjoy immensely was Salt, which I'm surprised no one in this thread has mentioned. I expected it to be silly Hollywood fare, and I suppose in a way it is, but I was shocked at how much I really enjoyed it. In fact, I liked it so much I have watched it on BD about 6 times. Angelina Jolie is convincing as a badass fighter and killer. I think it's more her carriage and her demeanor when she turns badass than just her physique. After all, Bruce Lee weighed about 130 lbs in fighting shape, and he kicked the sh!t out of Chuck Norris, and convincingly so. Jolie makes a terrific action hero, and she is as convincing as any male action hero, even if the plot is silly and commensurate with your slightly better than average action movie.

Saoirse Ronan just isn't an action hero.
I felt about Salt as you did about Hanna, that it was a decent but ultimately ordinary film. IMDb voters thought so, too, having given Salt an average score of 6.5 Stars out of 10. The problem I had with Salt was that I saw no onscreen chemistry whatever between Jolie and Depp, which made it hard for me to accept its silly premise. That ultimately doomed Salt to second class status in my mind. Still Jolie is a joy to look at.

Because of my high regard for Joe Wright's work, I came into Hanna with high expectations. Although high expectations can be the kiss off death, I swallowed Hanna Hook line and sinker. Because I accepted the movie's admittedly preposterous premise, I also accepted that Saoirse Ronan's Hanna could kill with ruthless efficiency. The film was also helped by Cate Blanchett's great performance as the lethal CIA ice queen. Although the final scene made my blood run a little cold, I thought it was a perfect ending to a strange, dark, but very exciting film.
post #53 of 87
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I felt about Salt as you did about Hanna, that it was a decent but ultimately ordinary film. IMDb voters thought so, too, having given Salt an average score of 6.5 Stars out of 10. The problem I had with Salt was that I saw no onscreen chemistry whatever between Jolie and Depp, which made it hard for me to accept its silly premise. That ultimately doomed Salt to second class status in my mind. Still Jolie is a joy to look at.
?????? That's a different movie.
post #54 of 87
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I felt about Salt as you did about Hanna, that it was a decent but ultimately ordinary film. IMDb voters thought so, too, having given Salt an average score of 6.5 Stars out of 10. The problem I had with Salt was that I saw no onscreen chemistry whatever between Jolie and Depp, which made it hard for me to accept its silly premise. That ultimately doomed Salt to second class status in my mind. Still Jolie is a joy to look at.

I felt that way about The Tourist too.

Salt is way more fun than it deserves to be, if that makes sense. If you haven't seen it, I suggest you give it a go. You'll likely be pleasantly surprised.

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Because of my high regard for Joe Wright's work, I came into Hanna with high expectations. Although high expectations can be the kiss off death, I swallowed Hanna Hook line and sinker. Because I accepted the movie's admittedly preposterous premise, I also accepted that Saoirse Ronan's Hanna could kill with ruthless efficiency. The film was also helped by Cate Blanchett's great performance as the lethal CIA ice queen. Although the final scene made my blood run a little cold, I thought it was a perfect ending to a strange, dark, but very exciting film.

It was a high concept film (albeit almost a trope by now) that fell flat, in my opinion.
post #55 of 87
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?????? That's a different movie.

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I felt that way about The Tourist too.

Salt is way more fun than it deserves to be, if that makes sense. If you haven't seen it, I suggest you give it a go. You'll likely be pleasantly surprised.

You are right, I confused Salt with The Tourist in my last post. I did see Salt, too, but remember little about it. Perhaps I'll take another pass at it sometime.
post #56 of 87
I really dig girly ass kicking films like 5th element, resident evil, run lola run, kill bill, etc. And although I have been prejudice with Ronan's physical attributes a while back, I was really happy when BB sent me Hanna yesterday.

Well Im sorry to say I don't have many good things to say about this film. It was just a weird, oddball film that IMO does not have strong focus or direction. The pace was slow but that wasn't the problem. The problem is when there was some action or fighting, it was really lame. Some of her action was ok but her dad's for instance in that parking lot was like from 1972 technology. It made you feel like wires isn't so bad after all if they had to use sped up flip-book style of fighting. And the bad guys were very lame, so lame which in turn never creates any real tension or suspense for our Hanna. Ok so she can easily dismantle a squad of armed trained men with her ninja skills, yet she can't do anything with a couple hometown goonbobs that were couple notches above local bullies.

I end with some positives in that I have new respect for Ronan. I think she has massive talent and depth as an actress but not quite yet as an action star. But IMO that's more the fault of the lame script and direction. Ok I know Hanna was a genetically altered human, BUT the director could have easily made her go on some MMA/boxing training so that her physique matches some of her badassery. Another aspect that could have enhanced the Hanna character. Or like give her mohawk or something bitchin you know...not this Little house on Prairie frizzy hairdo. You know that saying: we eat with our eyes? well basic film making is not that much different. This is what happens when a period drama film guy who's know for Pride & prejudice, the Soloist, and Atonement takes on John woo/Tarantino action movie. The premise of Hanna has boundless potential in the hands of a capable director and script.
post #57 of 87
Yep, count me disappointed as well. I was hoping for a teenage hit girl but once again we got another shot at a "perfect soldier" lame ass idea that has been done many times from "Jean Claude what a dumb" to "Jessica way hot", but rarely ever works. Still there were some good things here, mainly the lead actress Ronan, who I agree might be someone to watch for in the upcoming years, however Blanchett got carried away a bit, much like she did in the last Indy film. Many of the other side characters were weird as well. I agree the action scenes were badly shot and choreographed, and they did look amateurish. Interesting score from Chemical Brothers, but it really made some of the scenes more like music video clips, as opposed to help the film along.
post #58 of 87
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The BD has an Alternate Ending....it's actually MORE idiotic.

Oink,

Since I'll never see this movie again , I'm curious to just how much more idiotic it could be

Victor
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Oink,

Since I'll never see this movie again , I'm curious to just how much more idiotic it could be

Victor

LOL, you have a good point.
post #60 of 87
I enjoyed The American and Salt, more than Hanna and Kick-Ass (great PQ though).

Actually I was looking forward to Hanna based on the trailer. Other than the acting, the action was rather lame by today's standard. Maybe I did not care for the plot.

However, I do see a sequel coming.
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