Originally Posted by cakefoo
Having used the Mitsubishi starter kit glasses (they are the SSG's just with different branding) on my DLP, I can confirm that yes, they do lose their effectiveness at certain angles while other glasses like the UltraClears have a slightly large effective hot spot. The Samsung/Mitsus can block the 80 to pitch black iat the right angle, but I can't get the glasses to block 1-80 simultaneously because the coverage isn't big enough around. The UltraClears juuust barely do cover all 1-80 at the right angle.
In real world content, I saw crosstalk only once or twice watching The Mad Magician with the Samsung/Mitsu glasses, and any time I do notice ghosting extensively it's while gaming (which is very rough on 3DTV's) I switch to the UltraClears and they show absolutely zero ghosting.
Of course, DLP is sort of the holy grail of crosstalk performance; if you're seeing more crosstalk more often than I am, blame the TV, not the glasses. The best advice I can give is that those TV's have been reported to do better after they've warmed up for like an hour.
Thank you for the information. This kind of performance is simply appalling. I agree that gaming is harder on the TV, but harder does not make such horrifying 3D performance acceptable.
I have had the nVidia 3d vision kit for a long time and spent a lot of time profiling the performance characteristics. The Samsung 2100AB's seem to retain a lot of brightness ... more than is possible. Now I know why.
The hotspot is very apparent on the glasses if you run this test. You really have to point your glasses at exactly the right spot on the TV in order to get anything resembling effective crosstalk cancellation. Meanwhile the rest of the TV is showing ALL of the numbers, and in your other eye as well.
Given what I'm seeing here and knowing the performance characteristics of plasma (which should be *better* than LCD), it makes me suspect that they did so at the expense of severe crosstalk.
I'm going to try the ultraclears (which seem to be nearly identical to the 3d vision glasses, so that may be promising if the shutter time is superior to the 2100AB's) and see if they help. Right now this kind of 3D performance is an utter sham being perpetrated on us.