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post #13711 of 25204
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Originally Posted by Cal68 View Post

Bob and Dave

I'm sorry for asking another question that I would normally have asked in the Remote Control forum, but since the two of you were nice enough to answer my first question, I figured that I would ask you one more remote control related question.

When I opened the original box in which my MX-3000 remote came in, I found that there is a CD titled "MX3000 Programming Tutorial, Complete Control". Does this disc hold the software that I need to program the remote? I know that I'll probably have to contact URC to get the recent version of the software which has the Oppo codes in it, but I just wanted to find out if the disc I have has the basic program in it. Thanks for your help. I'll post all future question in the MX-3000 thread in the Remote Control forum!

Cal68

I'll only make a short comment and leave the rest to the remote forum...

I do believe the software did come with the MX3000. You will be able to load it and use it but it wont take current updates from URC. You will however be able to download your current remote file onto your computer to manipulate on the MX3000 software. It is a single file and you must use the MX3000 software to suck it out of the remote.

As for "learning" commands from the 93's remote. With the upper end URC remotes you typically need them attached to your computer via the provided software. Then you actually perform all learning functions via uploading commands into the software through your URC remote, only to then again apply the codes to your URC remote file then update your URC remote with the updated file etc....

Actually, I find the URC software quite easy to use with a minimal learning curve.

Depending on the year/rev of your provided MX3000 software, it may contain the current command files for the OPPO 93.. The OPPO 93 commands are the same as the older OPPO 83 and URC still references only the 83 command codes.

Cheers
post #13712 of 25204
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Originally Posted by KJSmitty View Post

I'll only make a short comment and leave the rest to the remote forum...

I do believe the software did come with the MX3000. You will be able to load it and use it but it wont take current updates from URC. You will however be able to download your current remote file onto your computer to manipulate on the MX3000 software. It is a single file and you must use the MX3000 software to suck it out of the remote.

As for "learning" commands from the 93's remote. With the upper end URC remotes you typically need them attached to your computer via the provided software. Then you actually perform all learning functions via uploading commands into the software through your URC remote, only to then again apply the codes to your URC remote file then update your URC remote with the updated file etc....

Actually, I find the URC software quite easy to use with a minimal learning curve.

Depending on the year/rev of your provided MX3000 software, it may contain the current command files for the OPPO 93.. The OPPO 93 commands are the same as the older OPPO 83 and URC still references only the 83 command codes.

Cheers

Thanks KJSmitty. I will spend some time this weekend "playing" with the disc that came with my remote before I hook up my MX3000 to my computer.

Cal68
post #13713 of 25204
I create them the first way and by the latter it really works. It's curious because popcorn hour c200 accepts the first way. Now I'll have to hardwork to process again all my movie files... But thanks for the help, dude!


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Originally Posted by AYColumbia View Post

Hmmm, I wonder if it's the latest firmware. Come to think of it, since I updated to the latest firmware, I've only watched MKVs without chapters I think. I'll have to check and see if I now run into the same issue you are. I'll check later today and let you know.

In the meanwhile, I'd recommend cutting a small part of one of the MKVs with at least 3 to 4 chapters and provide it to Oppo support. If it's behaving that way on all MKVs, then Oppo should be able to duplicate, so make sure to email this issue directly to them.

BTW, I use mkvtoolnix too. How do you create the chapters? Using the UI and inputing them one at a time or via an external text file with timestamps? I use the latter.
post #13714 of 25204
Hi. Got me Oppo 93EU setup. First did a testrun..all worked fine.

Tested bluray from disc and local hd (bdmv structure Beauty and the Beast worked 100% from hd).

Then installed the region free pro mod kit. Got no region locked blurays but a dvd region 1 plays fine.

Watched some 720p web-dl from HD, awesome picture quality (much better then from my dune prime 3.0!)

Tonight I thought I have a movie night and watch my first bluray with my oppo from local media, but a lot of the BDMV structures in have on local hd's stutter when loading, tested from Esata and Usb. (giving sound interrupts when loading and picture blocks, distortion every few seconds), only a couple of them work 100%, like fore mentioned Beauty and the Beast from BDMV structure plays just fine and some others.

What is the problem with all the other BDMV's?...why don't play, they play just fine with my dune prime 3.0.

If I convert those BDMV to ISO playback will be better?

Is the Oppo 93 so picky with playback from local media?

Tested m2ts files also play fine.

I bought it mainly for playback of 3d iso's (awaiting delivery of my new 3d tv next month).


Ok...converted the hicking/stuttering bdmv structure to .iso file and it plays just fine so bdmv structure playback from local media is not optimal yet. Best to give a heads up to oppo support?
post #13715 of 25204
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Originally Posted by lanping09 View Post

please send your suggestions to oppo service and see if they can pass these information to Youtube.

I have. I've also sent requests for things like NHL GameCenter Live, Amazon VOD, and Hulu.
post #13716 of 25204
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Originally Posted by Cal68 View Post

Bob and Dave

I'm sorry for asking another question that I would normally have asked in the Remote Control forum, but since the two of you were nice enough to answer my first question, I figured that I would ask you one more remote control related question.

When I opened the original box in which my MX-3000 remote came in, I found that there is a CD titled "MX3000 Programming Tutorial, Complete Control". Does this disc hold the software that I need to program the remote? I know that I'll probably have to contact URC to get the recent version of the software which has the Oppo codes in it, but I just wanted to find out if the disc I have has the basic program in it. Thanks for your help. I'll post all future question in the MX-3000 thread in the Remote Control forum!

Cal68

Excuse me for jumping in but I would suggest you check out the website www.remotecentral.com. There are lots of remote programming wizards who post in the forums there and who have program codes for a lot of different devices set up for various remotes. Some postings over there might get you some valuable tips and possibly some ready-made code that would facilitate what you are trying to do.
post #13717 of 25204
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Originally Posted by marklima View Post

I create them the first way and by the latter it really works. It's curious because popcorn hour c200 accepts the first way. Now I'll have to hardwork to process again all my movie files... But thanks for the help, dude!

Yeah, I just checked and they work fine. Keep one thing in mind, make sure to create an initial chapter point of 00:00:00.000 to ensure that the Oppo shows the chapters from the start so you can use the GOTO function.

If you don't do this, the chapters won't show in the OSD until the first chapter point is hit. I've emailed Oppo and asked them if they'd be able to have the player check for this initial chapter point and if it doesn't exist it would be nice if they can just put one in.

I'm in the habit of inserting this initial point and yet still forgot to do it in a few MKVs so someone who doesn't do this will think they have no chapters upon starting playback.

Note that the first method works fine but is not very intuitive. AFTER you've created the chapters, you have to use the Chapter Editor menu to insert them into the existing MKV. Simply loading the MKV and then muxing it will NOT automatically include these chapters. You also can save the XML file via the Chapters Editor in case you need to manually edit it. You can then, on the Global tab's Chapters section, load this XML file. Using this method will mux the file during the MKV muxing process.

You may need to edit the XML file manually because, as far as I can tell, there's no way to insert a chapter and set its order in the UI, so if you don't have the 00:00:00.000 at the beginning, you'll have to add it to the end, save the XML file, edit it to move this to the beginning and then load it and remux (not recommended) or load it into the Chapter Editor and use the Chapter Editor | Save to Matroska file (recommended) which is much faster.

Have fun.
post #13718 of 25204
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Originally Posted by destroyer2usa View Post
Hi. Got me Oppo 93EU setup. First did a testrun..all worked fine.

Tested bluray from disc and local hd (bdmv structure Beauty and the Beast worked 100% from hd).

Then installed the region free pro mod kit. Got no region locked blurays but a dvd region 1 plays fine.

Watched some 720p web-dl from HD, awesome picture quality (much better then from my dune prime 3.0!)

Tonight I thought I have a movie night and watch my first bluray with my oppo from local media, but a lot of the BDMV structures in have on local hd's stutter when loading, tested from Esata and Usb. (giving sound interrupts when loading and picture blocks, distortion every few seconds), only a couple of them work 100%, like fore mentioned Beauty and the Beast from BDMV structure plays just fine and some others.

What is the problem with all the other BDMV's?...why don't play, they play just fine with my dune prime 3.0.

If I convert those BDMV to ISO playback will be better?

Is the Oppo 93 so picky with playback from local media?

Tested m2ts files also play fine.

I bought it mainly for playback of 3d iso's (awaiting delivery of my new 3d tv next month).


Ok...converted the hicking/stuttering bdmv structure to .iso file and it plays just fine so bdmv structure playback from local media is not optimal yet. Best to give a heads up to oppo support?
Hi distroyer,do you find any difference in audio/video quality between the dune and oppo in playing back music/movies
post #13719 of 25204
I have just installed the latest firmware n the YOUTUBE is not working properly.
First, the Youtube logo came on with a redline below showing it is loading. After this opening page, it shows a choice of 'Do a search' or' Start watching', if u push the UP or DOWN button . But before I can make a choice, the screen went black n stay on n the unit just hang. I have to do a hard shutdown n reboot the unit. I repeated this process several times n it still act the same.

Can somebody tell me what I did wrong ? Or this is feature is not working in Hong Kong ???
post #13720 of 25204
The app launches a video automatically upon startup; it sounds like this is the point at which your unit is locking up. The software is loading fine, it just won't play the video.

Either your setup doesn't like something about the particular video, or the feature is not available in HK. Can someone confirm availability?
post #13721 of 25204
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Originally Posted by destroyer2usa View Post

I bought it mainly for playback of 3d iso's (awaiting delivery of my new 3d tv next month).

Ok...converted the hicking/stuttering bdmv structure to .iso file and it plays just fine so bdmv structure playback from local media is not optimal yet. Best to give a heads up to oppo support?

3D titles include multiple links to the same sectors, but if you save the disc as files those sectors get repeated. It is possible that this unlinking of sectors upsets playback. There have been reports before of some issues playing 3D titles as BDMV structure.

When extracted as an ISO, a 3D title appears to the player much the same as it does on the original disc and this seems to improve playability.

If your problems with BDMV structure are for 2D titles as well, that is a different matter, but since the Oppo now supports ISO, that would be the most compatible format to use for 2D and 3D.
post #13722 of 25204
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Originally Posted by majax79 View Post

After spending a few weeks going over every freaking Blu-ray player released within the last year, I keep returning to Oppo 93. All the other players have tons of negative reviews.

My question is, if I only have a 40" LED TV (1080P) and no other audio, could I still benefit from this player? My #1 concern is that Blu-ray discs and DVDs play quickly and without incident. I'm worried that this player might be too technical for me to understand.

If I can afford it, could this be the player for me?

The 93 is my first Oppo player, and probably the easiest set-up experience of any electronics I've ever owned- ab. 5 minutes, if that. Am not using the streaming services, though, so YMMV
post #13723 of 25204
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Originally Posted by ac388 View Post

I have just installed the latest firmware n the YOUTUBE is not working properly.
First, the Youtube logo came on with a redline below showing it is loading. After this opening page, it shows a choice of 'Do a search' or' Start watching', if u push the UP or DOWN button . But before I can make a choice, the screen went black n stay on n the unit just hang. I have to do a hard shutdown n reboot the unit. I repeated this process several times n it still act the same.

Can somebody tell me what I did wrong ? Or this is feature is not working in Hong Kong ???

I'm in the US and I've experienced the same problem several times. The Youtube software loads, but locks up when given the choice of Do a search or Start watching. It will often work correctly after rebooting.

I wish that the initial video didn't start playing automatically. I've learned to mute the system until I'm ready to watch.

I also wish the videos would buffer more. There seems to be a few seconds worth of buffer as indicated by an orange leading edge of the red loading line. Depending on the Youtube servers (or my isp) HD videos stop/start and stutter, making them unwatchable.
post #13724 of 25204
A Stop button while the first clip is loading will cure that. Also, try a Pause at the start of an HD clip playback (or when stuttering starts) to give the YouTube app a little time to do more, initial buffering.

Unfortunately, the code provided by YouTube will not completely buffer a clip, no matter how long you leave it Paused.
--Bob
post #13725 of 25204
Just installed the latest beta firmware... So far the player has locked up once while watching Youtube and the Dolby Digital Plus no longer works for VuDu anymore! I only get PCM to my pioneer AVR now. I didn't change any settings at all so I wonder if this is an issue others are having?
post #13726 of 25204
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Originally Posted by IanD View Post

3D titles include multiple links to the same sectors, but if you save the disc as files those sectors get repeated. It is possible that this unlinking of sectors upsets playback. There have been reports before of some issues playing 3D titles as BDMV structure.

When extracted as an ISO, a 3D title appears to the player much the same as it does on the original disc and this seems to improve playability.

If your problems with BDMV structure are for 2D titles as well, that is a different matter, but since the Oppo now supports ISO, that would be the most compatible format to use for 2D and 3D.

No I can not run 3d isos yet so the problem is with a lot of bdmv structures in 2D. Placed them in a AVCHD folder but still stutters so I think I'll have to convert them to iso files...
post #13727 of 25204
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Originally Posted by J450N View Post

the Dolby Digital Plus no longer works for VuDu anymore! I only get PCM to my pioneer AVR now. I didn't change any settings at all so I wonder if this is an issue others are having?

The player decodes the audio to LPCM. The Vudu OSD still shows DD+. I can't find any reason to think the the player is not receiving DD+.

Further testing in progress.
post #13728 of 25204
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

The player decodes the audio to LPCM.

That is odd because my receiver always showed DD+ on the display before...
post #13729 of 25204
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Originally Posted by J450N View Post

That is odd because my receiver always showed DD+ on the display before...

I confirmed that in the previous firmware the player did output DD+ with HDMI set to bitstream. We'll have to wait to hear from Oppo if this change is by design or a bug. In any case you're still getting 5.1 DD+, it's just being decoded in the player. Feel free to ask Oppo support and see what they say.

I cannot duplicate any lockups with YouTube, but I have a pretty fast cable connection and no buffering. Odds are that a lockup is due to buffering. If the player does lock up, you should still be able to get out of YouTube with the Home button.
post #13730 of 25204
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by J450N View Post

...the Dolby Digital Plus no longer works for VuDu anymore! I only get PCM to my pioneer AVR now. I didn't change any settings at all so I wonder if this is an issue others are having?

This is a known bug with the current firmware. Dolby Surround (which Dolby Digital Plus is a part of) results in the player decoding the audio into multi-channel LPCM rather than Bit Streaming it to the downstream receiver. This will be resolved through a future firmware release.
post #13731 of 25204
Help me out here with the upgrade as I'm seeing conflicting results when upgrading firmware.

I use a 2GB USB driver permanently connected to the rear port for storage. According to Oppo support, I can upgrade firmware via another USB flash drive on the front port while the having a thumb drive connected to the rear port. However, the instructions for USB specifically state:
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4.Turn on your TV display and the OPPO player. Eject the disc tray from the OPPO player and remove any disc. Make sure that there is no other USB drive connected to the player.

I have, in some cases, been able to upgrade the firmware while still having the rear permanent storage thumb drive connected and in some cases I could not.

This latest firmware is one that I could not until I removed the rear drive. Anyone experiencing this inconsistency or do you always just remove all drives during firmware upgrades anyway?

Also, I noticed that YouTube is not showing on the main screen. Attempting to play YouTube the first time after the firmware was installed locked the player hard. Once reset and restarted, YouTube videos played. Although they seem more bandwidth hungry than VUDU.

Do you guys know who controls the YouTube interface on the player, i.e., is it Oppo or YouTube? I only ask because I really like the search that's on the LG BD390 which shows the available titles based on what you type where this one does not. I also don't like any video to just start playing. I'd rather see some list of the most popular or something like that from which I can choose (again I like how LG implemented this).
post #13732 of 25204
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

This will be resolved through a future firmware release.


Thanks for the info... I am glad it will be resolved at some point.
post #13733 of 25204
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

A Stop button while the first clip is loading will cure that. Also, try a Pause at the start of an HD clip playback (or when stuttering starts) to give the YouTube app a little time to do more, initial buffering.

Unfortunately, the code provided by YouTube will not completely buffer a clip, no matter how long you leave it Paused.
--Bob

'The first clip' u meant the Youtube logo that came on or the 'choice' page or the one after that ????????????? When u stop, will the loading stop too ? However, I never see any HD playback.

Thanks.
post #13734 of 25204
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

Odds are that a lockup is due to buffering. If the player does lock up, you should still be able to get out of YouTube with the Home button.

Nothing worked. Not the home button or any other button. It was totally dead and I had to power it off. Hasn't happened since but it was weird.
post #13735 of 25204
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Originally Posted by AYColumbia View Post

This latest firmware is one that I could not until I removed the rear drive. Anyone experiencing this inconsistency or do you always just remove all drives during firmware upgrades anyway?

I left my hard drive connected to the rear USB on this last beta update by mistake and it still upgraded without a problem. However, I usually remove the hard drive when doing firmware updates. I'm of the belief that firmware updates are too critical to risk doing anything that is not recommended.
post #13736 of 25204
Recently was watching movie via network using TVERSITY with transcoding off. I checked the display using the 93 remote and it said 720p 24 frames.. My display, which is 24 frames compatible showed 60hz. Is the oppo converting or my display? I didn't think 720p 24 was even possible. Running latest public firmware (not beta).
post #13737 of 25204
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Originally Posted by heavy-b View Post

Recently was watching movie via network using TVERSITY with transcoding off. I checked the display using the 93 remote and it said 720p 24 frames.. My display, which is 24 frames compatible showed 60hz. Is the oppo converting or my display? I didn't think 720p 24 was even possible. Running latest public firmware (not beta).

Yes 720p/24 content exists, but HDMI can't carry it (there are no HDMI signal timings for that combo). So the player has to change either the resolution or the frame rate for HDMI output.

If you use explicit 720p resolution then the player will convert the frame rate and output 720p/60.

If you use Source Direct resolution then the player gives priority to preserving the frame rate, so it outputs 1080p/24.
--Bob
post #13738 of 25204
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Originally Posted by J450N View Post

Nothing worked. Not the home button or any other button. It was totally dead and I had to power it off. Hasn't happened since but it was weird.

Same for me too !!!

Anybody here can help ?
post #13739 of 25204
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Originally Posted by J450N View Post

Nothing worked. Not the home button or any other button. It was totally dead and I had to power it off. Hasn't happened since but it was weird.

I'm experiencing the same thing now. It's inconsistent as it works sometimes and sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes I actually get into the interface, select something to watch and then get a black screen and the remote becomes uselsess. If it is due to buffering, I'm not sure what it's buffering as my LG's YouTube has no issues and neither does VUDU in both players.

Well, it IS beta so I'm sure they'll work out the kinks. Make sure to report it to Oppo support.
post #13740 of 25204
So this beta is almost meaningless for a lot of people when the Youtube feature is not working properly.

Hope Oppo is listening !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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