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post #14971 of 25204
10/16/11 at 3:16pm
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what kind of tv do you have? is it an lcd that does the 120 refresh rate or 240?

Jacob

120hz.
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post #14972 of 25204
10/16/11 at 4:53pm
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Originally Posted by spike9876 View Post

Thanks for this...

Looking at the back... It does have IR/Remote Control inputs on the back. What 's the best way to have player support remote control over local network ? Can you point me on what I should be getting ?

Also, I do have a Logitech Harmony 1100 that I was going to replace with Harmony 900... but looking around I do prefer getting an IPad and having a software to control all devices... Currently I'm starting to look at iRule HD. I believe it translates codes from the iRule to IR or RS232.

The player doesn't support control over the network connection at this time, so there isn't a best way to do it. The player supports IR and RS-232 control at this time and which is best really depends on what remote you're looking to use and whether you care about the remote receiving feedback from the player (only available from RS-232). If you have a Logitech Harmony and one of their RF base station units, you can hook one of the IR emitter outputs directly to the IR input on the back of the player for control. I'm not familiar with iRule, so can't help you there. One observation though - you might find the iPad somewhat bulky to use as a hand held remote control for your home theater gear.
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post #14973 of 25204
10/16/11 at 6:01pm
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Originally Posted by Jottle View Post

120hz.

I also had an lcd with this issue.. that is the problem. it seems that 120 refresh causes problems with the netflix. I switched to plasma and no more problem.
I remember having this issue with netflix and talking with oppo about it.
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post #14974 of 25204
10/16/11 at 6:50pm
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Originally Posted by gsr View Post

The player doesn't support control over the network connection at this time, so there isn't a best way to do it. The player supports IR and RS-232 control at this time and which is best really depends on what remote you're looking to use and whether you care about the remote receiving feedback from the player (only available from RS-232). If you have a Logitech Harmony and one of their RF base station units, you can hook one of the IR emitter outputs directly to the IR input on the back of the player for control. I'm not familiar with iRule, so can't help you there. One observation though - you might find the iPad somewhat bulky to use as a hand held remote control for your home theater gear.

Main Idea was to get an IPad to have it as a remote... but at the same time be able to use it to stream music photos to my TV.

Not familiar that much with iRule yet... but it seems similar to Logitech... but instead of RF it connects to the network instead... Looks like some models also have RS-232 outputs but I'll be getting more info on this...

Talking about streaming... what is the best way to stream music/pics with OPPO ? Preferably with an IPhone/IPad
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post #14975 of 25204
10/16/11 at 7:17pm
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Originally Posted by Jacob305 View Post

I also had an lcd with this issue.. that is the problem. it seems that 120 refresh causes problems with the netflix. I switched to plasma and no more problem.
I remember having this issue with netflix and talking with oppo about it.
Jacob

Hmmm. It's possible. But then wouldn't all 120hz set users be seeing this as well? Seems like it's too widespread for only me to notice. Just saying. I appreciate your input.
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post #14976 of 25204
10/16/11 at 7:35pm
So I loaded the latest firmware and configured my Pandora account. I log in and all of my artists appear and I pick quickmix. A song appears but no matter what I do it will not begin to play. Any one else? Or better yet what am I missing?
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post #14977 of 25204
10/16/11 at 7:49pm
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Originally Posted by Gotchaa View Post

Will we ever see Amazon Video On Demand on the Oppo, or should I look for other options? Really would like this for front projection.

No one knows. OPPO is interested in adding services but will not announce until they are ready. The safest course is presume what it has now is all it will ever have.

-Bill
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post #14978 of 25204
10/16/11 at 8:21pm
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Originally Posted by spike9876 View Post

Main Idea was to get an IPad to have it as a remote... but at the same time be able to use it to stream music photos to my TV.

Not familiar that much with iRule yet... but it seems similar to Logitech... but instead of RF it connects to the network instead... Looks like some models also have RS-232 outputs but I'll be getting more info on this...

Ok, the iRule works in conjunction with Global Cache hardware to handle learning and transmitting IR codes to the gear you want to control. Note that for any devices that aren't in the iRule IR database, it looks like you would need to purchase the $75 Global Cache GC-IRL to learn the IR codes from the original remote (it looks like they have the Oppo players in their database). That should definitely work fine with the Oppo and Global Cache makes good stuff. How easy it will be to get the iRule software up and running is something you would want to look into. Further discussion of this really belongs in the remote control forum where you might find other people who are looking into or using iRule. One downside these guys share with Logitech Harmony is the way you program the remote online - if they go out of business, you'll most likely lose the ability to change your configuration.

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Originally Posted by spike9876 View Post

Talking about streaming... what is the best way to stream music/pics with OPPO ? Preferably with an IPhone/IPad

The Oppo can only pull content using the UI on the Oppo either from attached drives or from a DLNA server. It isn't a DLNA renderer, so you can't use something like an iPhone or iPad to push content to it. That said, the best way partly depends on what content you want to watch. If you want to watch ripped Blurays and DVD's, your best option is probably locally attached hard drives so you can use the ISO support to get full support for menus and everything else just as if you had put the original disc into the player. For other content, DLNA may be more convenient as it allows you to store your content on a PC and stream it over your home network.
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post #14979 of 25204
10/16/11 at 8:28pm
A quick (please don't jump me) semi-newbie question.
I'm about to pull the trigger on the 93.
Before I do, however, I'm wondering when Oppo comes out with the new models.
Would that be in conjunction with the show next Jan.?
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post #14980 of 25204
10/16/11 at 8:33pm
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Originally Posted by easysoul View Post

A quick (please don't jump me) semi-newbie question.
I'm about to pull the trigger on the 93.
Before I do, however, I'm wondering when Oppo comes out with the new models.
Would that be in conjunction with the show next Jan.?

It may be next fall before you see anything, or even longer according to the smart folks here. Just buy it
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post #14981 of 25204
10/16/11 at 9:22pm
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Originally Posted by Jottle View Post

Hmmm. It's possible. But then wouldn't all 120hz set users be seeing this as well? Seems like it's too widespread for only me to notice. Just saying. I appreciate your input.

It was reported early on about the netflix/120 refresh rate issue on this thread.

Jacob
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post #14982 of 25204
10/16/11 at 11:12pm
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Originally Posted by spike9876 View Post

Thanks for this...

Looking at the back... It does have IR/Remote Control inputs on the back. What 's the best way to have player support remote control over local network ? Can you point me on what I should be getting ?

Also, I do have a Logitech Harmony 1100 that I was going to replace with Harmony 900... but looking around I do prefer getting an IPad and having a software to control all devices... Currently I'm starting to look at iRule HD. I believe it translates codes from the iRule to IR or RS232.

Try the Harmony Link http://www.logitech.com/en-us/remote...s/harmony-link

blairy
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post #14983 of 25204
10/16/11 at 11:41pm
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Originally Posted by IanD View Post

Surely we are on this forum to help and be helped. I do care about others difficulties, even if I'm okay Jack.

Good for you. I've tried to do the same thing for the past nine years.

My "why" had to do with the fact that I haven't noticed any posts about the existence of this particular problem. Maybe there will be now.

Who is Jack?
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post #14984 of 25204
10/17/11 at 12:17am
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

My "why" had to do with the fact that I haven't noticed any posts about the existence of this particular problem. Maybe there will be now.

Re-read your post: I interpreted it as questioning why I would bother helping someone else with an issue if my own setup was okay.

"Jack" was reference to the "Fcuk you Jack, I'm okay" attitude that I thought your post was positing.

There were posts raised on DTV Forum about a potential superdisk issue that I was trying to help resolve: AVS Forum isn't the only forum in existence.
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post #14985 of 25204
10/17/11 at 12:28am
Can anyone tell me if there are any wireless keyboards that are compatible with the Oppo?
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post #14986 of 25204
10/17/11 at 12:33am
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There are none. No driver support.
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post #14987 of 25204
10/17/11 at 12:44am
Thanks! Is there a chance that driver support could be added at a later date, or is this impossible/unlikely?
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post #14988 of 25204
10/17/11 at 5:43am
Hi,

Does anyone know if the Oppo can play DSD discs created with Korg AudioGate software? It's a DSD encoder that can burn files directly onto recordable DVDs-- not a true SACD, but an "audio only" disc, as opposed to homebrew BD-Audio discs that still require some kind of video-- which potentially makes DSD discs the perfect way to back up hi-res audio files purchased from HDTracks. Only certain Sony players (including the PS3) are known to be compatible at this time, but my fingers are crossed for the Oppo.

Thanks,
Bryan
bferr1

P.S. See here for more: http://www.korguser.net/audiogate/en/index.html And here's more on the DSD-disc format itself, from Wikipedia:

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DSD Disc Format

Some professional audio recorders can record in DSD format. Transferring this signal to a recordable DVD with the appropriate tools, such as the Korg MR-1/2/1000/2000-bundled 'AudioGate'-software, will render a DSD Disc. Such discs can be played back/transcoded to PCM on the fly on PCs with the proper software plug-ins (for Windows Media Player or foobar2000), and in native DSD on certain Sony VAIO laptops and PlayStation 3.[4] HQPlayer from Feb 16 2011 ver 2.6.0 beta includes support for direct/native playback from DSDIFF and DSF files to ASIO devices with DSD support. Moreover, Sony produces two SACD-players, the SCD-XA5400ES and the SCD-XE800, that fully support the DSD-disc format. Only so-called DSF format is supported. DSF is a stereo-only, simplified form of DFF, the format used for SACD mastering and 5.1-channel downloads.
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post #14989 of 25204
10/17/11 at 6:33am
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Originally Posted by bferr1 View Post

Hi,

Does anyone know if the Oppo can play DSD discs

No, it cannot.
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post #14990 of 25204
10/17/11 at 6:33am
Dang! Thanks, rdgrimes.
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post #14991 of 25204
10/17/11 at 8:41am
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

You will just need to run some kind of DLNA DMP server on your computer or NAS. SMB and NFS are not supported.

You will then be able to playback any file over the network that normally loads on USB/eSATA.

Thanks for pointing me toward that. I have a ReadyNAS NV which should be running DLNA. I'll also try the Twonky add on if I decide to stream HD content.
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post #14992 of 25204
10/17/11 at 9:03am
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Originally Posted by Jacob305 View Post

It was reported early on about the netflix/120 refresh rate issue on this thread.

Jacob

Can you point me in the right direction to this info? I'm trying to eliminate the panning jitter, but I've turned off all motion processing that could be affecting it.
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post #14993 of 25204
10/17/11 at 10:42am
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

This is an issue with your television. Any motion flow will be incorrect for SD Netflix (HD seems fine). I have seen this happen on other players including a PS3 when motion flow is enabled.

hopefully this is the answer you are looking for?

Jacob
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post #14994 of 25204
10/17/11 at 10:43am
AFAIK, Netflix uses frame rate compression which is partly responsible for some judder that everyone sees. This will be most noticeable when your connection is not it's best. This could also be a source of issues in some displays, as has been pointed out. While the player is still putting out the pre-set 60 FPS, the effect of the compression is still clearly seen.

Satellite and cable cos are also using some frame rate compression at times as part of a greater algorithm of compression. I don't think this is something that we can expect to go away.

Oppo may have a 120Hz display or 2 in their labs, so follow up with Oppo support is suggested if you think you have an issue with the player's output.
But my gut feeling is that issues with Netflix are usually related to a slower than ideal connection.
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post #14995 of 25204
10/17/11 at 5:02pm
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Originally Posted by gsr View Post

Ok, the iRule works in conjunction with Global Cache hardware to handle learning and transmitting IR codes to the gear you want to control. Note that for any devices that aren't in the iRule IR database, it looks like you would need to purchase the $75 Global Cache GC-IRL to learn the IR codes from the original remote (it looks like they have the Oppo players in their database). That should definitely work fine with the Oppo and Global Cache makes good stuff. How easy it will be to get the iRule software up and running is something you would want to look into. Further discussion of this really belongs in the remote control forum where you might find other people who are looking into or using iRule. One downside these guys share with Logitech Harmony is the way you program the remote online - if they go out of business, you'll most likely lose the ability to change your configuration.



The Oppo can only pull content using the UI on the Oppo either from attached drives or from a DLNA server. It isn't a DLNA renderer, so you can't use something like an iPhone or iPad to push content to it. That said, the best way partly depends on what content you want to watch. If you want to watch ripped Blurays and DVD's, your best option is probably locally attached hard drives so you can use the ISO support to get full support for menus and everything else just as if you had put the original disc into the player. For other content, DLNA may be more convenient as it allows you to store your content on a PC and stream it over your home network.

My understanding is that iRule supports many devices but will list all my devices and check with them... Yes, I will start checking the remote control forum for this topic. Thanks for your input.
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post #14996 of 25204
10/17/11 at 7:25pm
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Originally Posted by IanD View Post

Re-read your post: I interpreted it as questioning why I would bother helping someone else with an issue if my own setup was okay.

"Jack" was reference to the "Fcuk you Jack, I'm okay" attitude that I thought your post was positing.

There were posts raised on DTV Forum about a potential superdisk issue that I was trying to help resolve: AVS Forum isn't the only forum in existence.

Your interpretation is incorrect.
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post #14997 of 25204
10/17/11 at 8:20pm
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

AFAIK, Netflix uses frame rate compression which is partly responsible for some judder that everyone sees. This will be most noticeable when your connection is not it's best. This could also be a source of issues in some displays, as has been pointed out. While the player is still putting out the pre-set 60 FPS, the effect of the compression is still clearly seen.

Satellite and cable cos are also using some frame rate compression at times as part of a greater algorithm of compression. I don't think this is something that we can expect to go away.

Oppo may have a 120Hz display or 2 in their labs, so follow up with Oppo support is suggested if you think you have an issue with the player's output.
But my gut feeling is that issues with Netflix are usually related to a slower than ideal connection.

I'll email oppo to double check. But I'm absolutely sure it isn't a connection issue as I'm hardwired to the modem. I have 10mbps down consistently using my bandwidth meter. Even using the vudu speed test is shows highest quality. So it's got to either be netflix, the oppo, or the tv.
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post #14998 of 25204
10/17/11 at 9:03pm
Any word on the return of the skip forward / skip back functionality for .ts files? I miss this ability.
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post #14999 of 25204
10/18/11 at 4:20am
thank everyone for all the info about this player
just buy this player yesterday(not arrive yet) to replace my panasonic
i have an old stereo receiver without the hdmi input only has the optical input for the audio
so i m going to use hdmi cable output from the oppo to my tv and use optical output to the stereo receiver
may i ask what is the best set up for this should i turn off the hdmi audio out and get the audio signal from the optical cable to the receiver
and what is the best and easy set up to start,and i will do a later set up and adjustment when i have time in the future
thank you!
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post #15000 of 25204
10/18/11 at 4:36am
camshow, this standard situation is so well explained in the manual, that probably nobody can do this better here.
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