Official OPPO BDP-93 Owner's Thread - Page 513

Originally Posted by Thrummer

Will my Oppo stream mp3's from my PC via wireless? I currently have a PC/Laptop wireless network in my home.

When I installed the player I skipped the wireless network set up piece and have just been using it for BD/DVD/SACD/CD's up to this time.

We don't have NetFlix/Oppo capability yet (Canada), and some of the other USA services (Pandora).

But it would be convenient to stream rather than download to a usb from the PC to use in the Oppo (which I've done on rare occasions).

Originally Posted by Neuromancer

MKV does not, and likely will never, support lossless audio formats such as FLAC, Dolby Digital TrueHD and DTS-HD Master. This has been requested well before the release of the player to the public, and if it has not yet been implemented into the player at this point, it likely never will.

We have requested from MediaTek that they enable high resolution audio in a MKV container, but so far they have not been willing to do this. We have been requesting this functionality for more than a year, so it is unlikely that high resolution audio in a MKV container will be supported through a future firmware release.

Originally Posted by SeriousHorse

Sounds a little odd. If DVDFab is re-encoding the video, you'll probably notice a difference, but the ISO file should be exactly the same as the original disc, unless DVDFab is using compression (to fit a DVD9 onto a DVD5, for example) by default.
Try making sure the ISO file is an uncompressed copy. You can also try using MKVMerge GUI to simply remux the VOB files (pick one and it will automatically add the others) to an uncompressed MKV file. Again, the quality should be identical.

Originally Posted by benleeys

Thanks for responding, SeriousHorse.

Except for the .avi file, there is no file compression at all. In fact, a .vob file is an exact copy of what is on the disk. (An .iso file is simply a container for all the .vob files.) You don't even require a ripper program - simply copy the files from the disc direct to the HDD. Yet the result is still not as sharp as that played from a disc. I tried all the 4 formats. Everyone exhibits the same pic softness - not much, but easily discernable.

I wonder if the USB connection from the HDD makes a difference. Or is there another factor involved?

Ben

Originally Posted by benleeys

Thanks for responding, SeriousHorse.

Except for the .avi file, there is no file compression at all. In fact, a .vob file is an exact copy of what is on the disk. (An .iso file is simply a container for all the .vob files.) You don't even require a ripper program - simply copy the files from the disc direct to the HDD. Yet the result is still not as sharp as that played from a disc. I tried all the 4 formats. Everyone exhibits the same pic softness - not much, but easily discernable.

I wonder if the USB connection from the HDD makes a difference. Or is there another factor involved?

Ben

Originally Posted by rdgrimes

Be aware that Fab can output an ISO even when it's using a compression mode. Try using something other than Fab to create a DVD ISO. Or, use Fab in clone mode to make an ISO. I think you should stick with the assumption that there's no difference between an ISO and the disc in terms of quality. Any differences you might see would be either a matter of user error or of perception.

Originally Posted by wmcclain

That's mysterious. I doubt if the connection can make a soft picture. Try the files on an optical disc. They all should work except for ISO, which is not supported on a data disc. Obviously you can burn it as a disc image, making it normal DVD Video.

Actually, that would be a good test: compare the original DVD with a burned copy made with your method. If there is a difference then there is something wrong with your process.

-Bill

Originally Posted by tomcran

I upgraded from the 83 to the 93 a couple days ago. I'm into DVD Audio and SACD, and also the idea of playing wav files through USB.

I'm confused about something. DVD Audio has been playing beautifully, through digital optical, on my 83 and 93, but I have just discovered in the owner's manual: "Due to copyright restrictions and bandwidth limitations full resolution audio from DVD-Audio discs cannot be sent through the coaxial or optical digital output. To listen to DVD-audio in full resolution, please use the HDMI or analog audio connections."

My receiver doesn't have HDMI input. I listen to SACD through analog - set up for 5.1 (not 7.1). I've been listening to DVD Audio through digital optical.

I've A/B'd the DVD-A (played through digital optical) with CDs of the same uncompressed music played on my CD player, and I hear no difference. DVD-A sounds equal or better.

So is there really any truth to the above that analog would work much better? Digital optical sounds fantastic.

To listen to DVD-A through analog I'd have to switch the cables around every time I want to go from DVD-A to SACD? I'm reluctant to do that even once, since it's an enormous amount of crawling and squeezing into position, moving my receiver without disconnecting cables, etc.

Originally Posted by JazzGuyy

All Oppo outputs are always active so you don't have to move cables around. Just select different inputs on your AVR. Just have both analog and digital optical hooked up.

Originally Posted by Ornette

If moving the cables to another input is necessary to be able to use the player the way you want, RCA splitters would also do the trick.

Originally Posted by tomcran

Maybe I'm missing something. But there is no dedicated stereo output in the 93. You have to use the LF and RF and downmix appropriately.

Since I have the LF and RF on my Oppo tied up for SACD - connected to the multi-channel input on the receiver, I'd have to take those connections from the multi-channel input on the receiver and move them to the stereo input on the receiver. Isn't this true, or am I missing something?

Originally Posted by rdgrimes

For stereo sources, you may also find that the multichannel inputs works just as well, but it's easy to connect both and compare on the same source material.

Originally Posted by tomcran

I tried switching to multichannel and back and the MC sounded terrible. Much lower volume, more trebly, and harsher. (And I tried changing the "Down Mix" to both "Lt/Rt" and also "Stereo" - made no difference.) Doing this through the AVR's multichannel would not seem to work well. I'd need to try doing it through the AVR's "stereo" input next, but it sounds so good now through the forbidden digital optical output, that it seems like a waste of time unless someone who's tried both reports back and says the analog route sounds not just outstanding, but super duper, hyper-amazing compared to digital.

Originally Posted by tomcran

I'm now listening to the Beatles entire studio catalog, together with Anthology and the BBC in (uncompressed) WAV format - using shuffle play, through a USB thumb drive. I've never been set up to do that before in WAV format. The possibilities this device opens up are amazing.

The one problem is that when going to songs direct or through random or shuffle play the first split second of each song is cut off. This is true with USB input or with DVD-A discs. (This wasn't the case with DVD-A with the 83.)

Maybe I'll email Oppo notifying them of this -- unless I learn they are fully aware of it and are working on it.

Before I did the latest firmware update, the time display for DVD-A was stuck at 0 after the first song. That was fixed in the latest update. Impressive!! Hopefully these split second drops at the beginning of songs is something they will also fix soon.

Originally Posted by WillyJ

Not sure but I think the problem may be with the Beatles songs themselves (the ones you purchased via USB stick in the novelty apple - the 20bit/44K versions). I too had this issue but it only seemed to be with those Beatles songs so I am not sure if it is something in the build of the music files or the way they are being seen by the Oppo/AVR or something in the chain. Might even be some issue with the 20 bit......Dunno.

I just moved all my music over to NAS and playable via Twonky but haven't had a chance to see if this issue duplicates there too. Same files and all - just playing through Twonky. I may try this over the weekend and post back. You may also want to try some other music and see if you can duplicate it with other songs or file types.

Originally Posted by tomcran

The one problem is that when going to songs direct or through random or shuffle play the first split second of each song is cut off. This is true with USB input or with DVD-A discs. (This wasn't the case with DVD-A with the 83.)

Originally Posted by Neuromancer

The only real disadvantage to using optical or coaxial for DVD-Audio is that you are restricted to stereo only. You will not be able to get multi-channel, like you would using analog or HDMI, from a DVD-Audio source when using optical or digital coaxial.

Originally Posted by obxdiver

I hope someone can help me
I have several BD rips in MKV format on an external har drive connected to the USB of the 93.
When I play a 2.35:1 MKV (1920x804), the 93 is stretching the image to fill the screen, eliminating the top and bottom black bars. This of course distorts the picture by making the people look tall and skinny.
If I play a BD disk with 2.35:1, the aspect is correct, with top/bottom black bars.
Why do only my MKV's get stretched?

Originally Posted by JimVR4

Not happy with the BDP-93. I failed to thoroughly read this thread and I don't like:
1) Can't play DVD structures over DLNA without glitches. They play but I have 1GB .VOB files and when the player has to switch to the next file it pauses and if there is more than one audio track it often switches that too. So I'm listening in English and it pauses and switches to Italian The pausing is documented in the guides which I failed to read. Removing the glitches means re-encoding all my movies
2) I don't like that the Optical / Coaxial digital audio outputs are dumbed down to audio only. I don't have an HDMI AVR and I'm not going to be forced into an upgrade. My only solution is to let the 93 do the decoding and output 7.1 to my AVR.
3) Don't like that My Network has no means of showing movie summaries, lengths, cover art, or cast.
4) Don't like that BMP and TIFF picture formats aren't supported.

I'm returning my player and sticking with my Windows Media Server. It's much more wife friendly. I just need to upgrade it to play Blue-ray and I'm all set. The only other thing I can't due is stream Netflix.

Originally Posted by SeriousHorse

Short answer: because they've been muxed in an incompatible way.
First step, make sure your display is set to "Wide/Auto" in the Oppo's settings.
Second step, remux the files that aren't working properly with MKVMerge GUI (this is available for Windows, Linux and Mac).
There is no third step. That's all you have to do: just remux it with MKVMerge. You don't even have to change anything within that app. After that, the aspect ratio will be just fine.

Originally Posted by JimVR4

2) I don't like that the Optical / Coaxial digital audio outputs are dumbed down to audio only. I don't have an HDMI AVR and I'm not going to be forced into an upgrade. My only solution is to let the 93 do the decoding and output 7.1 to my AVR.

Originally Posted by heavy-b

Could you please explain what you mean in number 2 by the coax/optical being dumbed down to audio only? I don't understand what you mean by that.