Official OPPO BDP-93 Owner's Thread - Page 528

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--Bob

I have the Oppo 93. It is said that it will perform vertical stretch on 2D BluRay Discs and on some 3D BluRay discs. I need this function since I use a Panamorph UH480 Anamorphic Lens. The Lens does the horizontal stretch.

I only watch the newer 3D BluRay movies. How do I know which ones will work and which ones wont? I heard its called some type of files but not sure. If you know what it is what percentage of new 3D BluRays would I be able to stretch?

The Oppo 93 supports Zoom modes (including vertical stretch) on Blu-ray 3D discs which are *NOT* authored to use a BD-Java program loaded off the disc (and perhaps updated over the network) to control their disc playback.

Disc packaging does not indicate whether discs do or do not use BD-Java. So you just have to try it, or rely on reviews from others. Here's a bit of an outdated list from the Oppo 93 Wiki (links to the Wiki and FAQ are, as always, found at the top of the first post of this thread):

http://wiki.oppodigital.com/index.ph..._stretch_3D.3F

The easiest way to discover if any given Blu-ray disc you happen to have (2D or 3D) is authored using BD-Java is:

1) In Setup > Playback Setup, confirm that Auto Resume is ON

2) Start the feature playing on the disc (not just the preview trailers or disc menus)

3) Hit Stop ONCE

You will be returned to the Oppo splash screen. If a message is displayed reading "Press PLAY to continue", then that disc is *NOT* authored using BD-Java. (This works because BD-Java programs also seize control of how Resume Play works.)

NOTE 1: Be warned that discs are frequently issued in multiple versions. For example, sometimes the retail version of a disc DOES use BD-Java, but the "rental special" version of that same disc -- authored without any "extras" content -- does NOT use BD-Java.

NOTE 2: The "BD-Live" Blu-ray feature -- which allows you to go out on the network, to view additional content from the studio's server -- uses BD-Java. So if the disc packaging says the disc includes BD-Live, then you know that disc is authored with BD-Java. (Turning BD-Live OFF in the Oppo has no affect on the BD-Java-ness of the disc itself.)

NOTE 3: Be sure you are using HDMI 1 output cabling for video, have Setup > Video Setup > Primary Output set to HDMI 1, and do NOT select Source Direct if you want to use Zoom with 3D titles.

Many of the early handful of 3D discs were authored with BD-Java. Then it was revealed that the PS3 was not able to handle both 3D and BD-Java at the same time, so studios stopped using BD-Java in newer 3D titles, for quite a while. Then Sony finally updated the PS3 to allow 3D BD-Java support, so I imagine studios are reverting to their old, bad habits and using BD-Java again.

BD-Java allows fancier disc user interfaces, certain oddball disc features, and (ahem) more onerous "copy protection". BD-Java is a computer programming language, and studios to date have proven particularly inept at coding these programs for their discs, but gosh, they keep on trying! Such pluck!

The problem with BD-Java in this case is that BD-Java disc control programs are allowed, by the rules of Blu-ray, to trigger "zoom" stuff in the decoder THEMSELVES, without warning and without the ability of the user to change that. This means that for a BD-Java disc, user controlled Zoom can't be implemented in the decoder. And even though no studios DO THAT (yet) in their BD-Java stuff, the Blu-ray certification tests test for that ANYWAY, so OPPO has to live with it.

However on HDMI 1 the OPPO has a 2nd chance to do Zoom -- in the video processor AFTER BD-Java does it's thing and gets the heck out of the way. This turns out to be tricky to do in a way that doesn't, itself, run afoul of the Blu-ray certification tests.

Oppo has figured out how to do that for 2D BD-Java discs, but not for 3D BD-Java discs. It's not clear it CAN be done for 3D given the added complexities and funky design of that format. Complaints to Blu-ray Disc Association, please.
--Bob

Anybody have issues with what I can only describe as white flashes showing up randomly on the screen. Like a frame or part of a frame is white. Only lasts a fraction of a second but will show up consistantly. It is odd. First I thought it might be my TV (Panasonic 65vt30) having issues with 24P but it doesn't do it with any other source but the Oppo Player (not on XBOX 360, not on HD cable feeds,etc..). It only started doing it within the last month and I have had the player for over 6 months.

This sounds like a cabling problem.

Check that the HDMI plugs are fully inserted STRAIGHT into the sockets without being tugged in any direction. Check both ends of each cable. Keep in mind that HDMI is an end to end protocol so the problem could be in the cable from player to AVR or in the cable from AVR to display. HDMI connections are just friction fit, and it only takes a small shift of the plug in the socket to screw things up.
--Bob

Returning the oppo today, mine is bugged and having lip sync issues even with the new firmware.

Thanks, I did check the connection at the back of the Oppo but not the other end of the connection going into my Marantz AV7005. I doubt it is the main HDMI connection running to the TV as none of the other sources are showing this issue.

Trust me. Check that one too. It is very common for HDMI plugs to work loose a bit at the plug into the TV, or to be shifted a bit as you adjust wiring in the back of the AVR.
--Bob

Returning it for service or just returning it?

There are things to do to diagnose lip sync issues.
--Bob

I had a somewhat similar problem. When I connected a device to my NAD T 747 AVR via HDMI which in turn was connected to the internet, I got "white noise" in the audio background. At first I blamed the attached device. A Samsung BD player, a ROKU internet STB, even my OPPO 93. Never from my cable HD TV STB.

The problem began about the same time I started using the new AVR but I continued to suspect the device closest to the internet. Or my Wi-Fi, my internet provider, etc. After all, the AVR was new! I bought a later model ROKU only to have the problem continue. Finally, I reluctantly decided it had to be the AVR. So, I sent it in to a NAD authorized service center while still under warranty. Sure enough. They are replacing the HDMI printed circuit board.

In retrospect, I should have done a better job of troubleshooting, swapping devices, putting everything under scrutiny.

Dana

Hi,

I have a problem playing burned 3D isos on Verbatim 50GB DL.

On my LG 670 the Blu-rays work, sometimes they stotter or freeze on some points (mostly before layer break or right after layer break) but they work 99% of the movie.

On my Oppo 93 3 of 4 movies dont play or if playing then until layer break, after layer break nothing.

I bought these Verbatim BD-R DL on ebay from a japanese seller.

I burned 2x speed on my LG BH10LS30 burner with imgburn or toast 11.

Has anyone else a problem like me, with burning 3D ISOs ?

I ordered now TDK BD-R DL and will try again.

abraxas222

I am considering if I can replace my Dune media player with Oppo 93. Does it play well blu-ray folders with menus? Can I play 3d content also from hard drive? Is there any problem to play mulitple external hard drives from usb hub?

I liked dual hdmi outs so that I can avoid using projector. I heard lot of good things about oppo 93 as blu-ray disk player. I am not sure as media player from content on hard drive.

I guess this player released more than year back. Is there any plan from Oppo to release new player with updatd chipset? If it is one or two months, I can wait.

Appreciate for your help.

That all works. Maximum HD size is 2TB each. The browser user interface is very basic, and is illustrated in the online manual.


Slowly I turned...

There have been no announcements or rumors, which is typical of OPPO, which does not usually discuss futures. People are guessing later next year for a new player.

-Bill

and what might a new player include that isn't already in the 93' ?

Please see the "what features would you like in your next Oppo BR player?" thread for discussion.

This sounds like pretty typical behavior with burned discs of questionable burn quality. The layer break occurs near to the outside edge of the disc, which is where burn quality can frequently decline. If you have a HDD or a USB thumb drive of sufficient size, try playing the ISO that way, which will rule out any issues with the data itself.

FWIW, I've watched several 3D ISO from HDD with no issues.

And slowly my blood pressure reaches the boiling point.

Returning it, it had problems and just upgraded to the 95 instead.

I'm using the Verbatin 50G DL without any issues. Just tested 5 disks on the weekend

Just chuckle instead.. It's really no big deal and bound to continue to occur. :-)

Not the most exciting beta...

Thanks for the heads up, Neuromancer.
I'm always happy to see new firmware, even when it's only to improve compatibility.
Anyone with the PRO modchip try this out yet?

I didn't dig out any discs but I did change the region while I had a 2.5" external USB drive plugged into the rear USB port. I walked through regions without problems after updating. I confirmed the changes worked via Setup > 0770.

Is a fix for the stretch & full zoom modes on media files with HDMI 1 still being worked on? That has not been working since the May 2nd beta firmware.

Still no new Netflix interface or Amazon. Sigh.

I'm a little surprised amazon is still missing.

Agree. No Amazon Instant? Darn. I guess we've been spoiled with previous firmware updates which added all sorts of goodies.

You can't push a rope. Someone has to be pulling on the other end.

-Bill

I understand, it's amazons fault. They only pulled the rope for Panasonic, TiVo, roku, Samsung, lg. Should I go on

While I do understand two to tango. One does have a level of expectation for a $500 streaming universal player.

I just think if you come out with a new model, and chose a chip for its streaming ability, there would be a little more showing. I mean BB streaming, that's a joke right?

I love this player, but let's be honest.