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post #15991 of 25196
12/11/11 at 8:06am
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post #15992 of 25196
12/11/11 at 2:08pm
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Originally Posted by petiteface View Post

Hello all,
I was hoping that there would have been some progress on the quality of playing a DVD........So far a lot worse than my cheapo 2-yr old Samsung player.

If you don't mind me asking, but what is your setup? In my setup, which includes a Pioneer Elite Pro-151FD my BDP-95 (same video capablilties as the BDP-93) is on par with my previous BDP-83SE, which it replaced. At least that is what my eyes are telling me.
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post #15993 of 25196
12/11/11 at 2:14pm
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Originally Posted by bxbigpipi View Post

I was wondering if you guys can tell me how's the up conversion of regular dvd's?

In my opinion and in my setup I think DVD PQ is excellent.
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post #15994 of 25196
12/11/11 at 3:04pm
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Originally Posted by bxbigpipi View Post

Hey everyone I'm new here, I should be getting my oppo in about 2 months, I was wondering if you guys can tell me how's the up conversion of regular dvd's?

It has been reported that a Toshiba HD-XA2 is king, but my BDP-93 does a good enough job that I do not bother switching over to that other player (The HD-XA2) that shares the same input channel on my Integra 80.2. (I have too many devices for the limited inputs that are available)
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post #15995 of 25196
12/11/11 at 4:01pm
Thanks to everyone for your responses!!!
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post #15996 of 25196
12/11/11 at 8:36pm
Newbie question: I can't quite figure out why the "service" icons (Vudu, Blockbuster, et al) are duplicated under the "Internet" icon. Is there some advantage accessing from the main home screen icon vs. the Internet > ? It doesn't seem like there is any difference in the individual service itself, so ... ?

(fw BDP9x-57-0917)
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post #15997 of 25196
12/11/11 at 9:22pm
I have windows home server with all my music and videos. All this media is shared on public file shares.
I tried playing movies(.m2ts) files from the home server and I got an error saying "unable to connect via Window Media Connect".
I was able to play the same files from USB.
I do have Twonky media server that is currently not installed.
Do I have to install a third party software to read media files from NAS?

Thanks
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post #15998 of 25196
12/11/11 at 9:38pm
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Originally Posted by petiteface View Post

Hello all,
I was hoping that there would have been some progress on the quality of playing a DVD or the Netflix on this OPPO-93. Does anyone know if there is a future firmware that is going to improve either of these? So far these are a lot worse than my cheapo 2-yr old Samsung player.

I am really happy with its Blu-Ray performance though, but really hoping for the above 2 things to improve.

I'm very happy with my BDP-93 Bluray output. The 93 will not output 1080p/24 on SD DVD so I only use it for Bluray....
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post #15999 of 25196
12/12/11 at 4:09am
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Originally Posted by hehateme View Post

I have windows home server with all my music and videos. All this media is shared on public file shares.
I tried playing movies(.m2ts) files from the home server and I got an error saying "unable to connect via Window Media Connect".
I was able to play the same files from USB.
I do have Twonky media server that is currently not installed.
Do I have to install a third party software to read media files from NAS?

Thanks

The OPPO uses DLNA for network access; it does not mount network shares directly.

The FAQ has more information. Twonky is a popular choice for DLNA server.

-Bill
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post #16000 of 25196
12/12/11 at 8:11am
I have a OPPO DV-980H DVD player and the LPCM rate in that is set at 192khz, I am trying to change it to 96Khz (because my Onkyo is not recognizing 192khz), but the option is disabled and I don't know how to change the value.

Any help?
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post #16001 of 25196
12/12/11 at 8:25am
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Originally Posted by atlind01 View Post

I have a OPPO DV-980H DVD player and the LPCM rate in that is set at 192khz, I am trying to change it to 96Khz (because my Onkyo is not recognizing 192khz), but the option is disabled and I don't know how to change the value.

Any help?

Eject the tray. Is the option selectable then?

-Bill
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post #16002 of 25196
12/12/11 at 8:30am
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Originally Posted by atlind01 View Post

I have a OPPO DV-980H DVD player and the LPCM rate in that is set at 192khz, I am trying to change it to 96Khz (because my Onkyo is not recognizing 192khz), but the option is disabled and I don't know how to change the value.

Any help?

Here's the thread for that player: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=879341

-Bill
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post #16003 of 25196
12/12/11 at 2:11pm
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

Right.

Several of us use the Thermaltake BlacX. A disadvantage is that the power switch is low on the back side, making it awkward to reach around the drive itself.

-Bill

The newer ones have the button on the top left had side. A little easier to get at, but painful blue light. lol

They also (though USB 3.0) work fine on the 93.
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post #16004 of 25196
12/12/11 at 2:53pm
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Originally Posted by BobearQSI View Post

I can respond to half your question, as I have this projector as well as the BDP-93. The delay is entirely with the projector - this projector is ridiculously slow (compared to others) for power on, switching inputs, and any time the source signal changes.

Your amp finishes the handshake and starts the audio right away. The projector takes an additional 4-8 seconds to display video (seems random).

I've tried a 6ft quality HDMI cable straight from the Oppo HDMI 1 to the RS40, and used a separate cable to the AVR from HDMI 2, and this does not help at all. The RS40 simply blanks out the image for 5-10 seconds on any input any time the signal changes (even component, and even removing the cable or powering off the Oppo). There's no way to get around this.

You might try forced 1080p60 resolution and turning off 24p in the Oppo so the Oppo always converts and outputs 1080p60, thus the projector always gets 1080p60 and has less signal switching. I haven't tried this as I'd rather live with the delay to have 24p.

Thanks for the reply. The reason you mentioned perfectly makes sense. It saved lot of time for me to research on.

Hopefully, JVC can address this problem in future with firmware upgrade. It is annoying to loose picture for few seconds when audio already started. Only work around is to pause or press again previous button to start video/audio.

I also see lot of changes on the screen when I start playing. I see blue screen,no screen, again picture, showing 1080p60 ,1080p24 etc. I guess it is hdmi hand shake.

The blu-ray movie is all times 1080p24. I guess advertisements, FBI warning etc may not be 1080p24. That is why my screen changes so many times. Can anybody confirm if it is true for blu-ray media of most of movies to contain 108024 and 1080p69 content.
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post #16005 of 25196
12/12/11 at 3:06pm
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Originally Posted by sukumar View Post

Can anybody confirm if it is true for blu-ray media of most of movies to contain 108024 and 1080p69 content.

It's very common during the intro material. You'll even get standard definition segments sometimes.

As an experiment, use 1080p (not Source Direct) with 1080p24 turned OFF and see if it makes a difference. You'll be getting a constant 1080p60 in this case.

-Bill
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post #16006 of 25196
12/12/11 at 3:12pm
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Originally Posted by Jacob305 View Post

I have no idea.. perhaps someone else can answer that question.

Jacob

geodon, I've encountered the exact same problem (search for my posts in this thread). I've tried Bob and Oppo's suggestions to disable all motion smoothing, go to 20p excplicit or source direct, but nothing has made the video stuttering and half-frame/whole frame split second flashes go away. I did not try switching to hdmi 2 however. I believe this may be a netflix player issue and not necessarily a defect in the bdp. I don't see this issue with any other media. DVD and blu-ray playback is flawless with no stuttering or flashing frames. Perhaps if I see this same issue on vudu, then I could nail it down to either the player or some sort of incompatibility with my lcd tv. I have a samsung ln40c630 fwiw.

No one else who has experienced this issue and reported it here has found a satisfactory solution so far.
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post #16007 of 25196
12/12/11 at 3:32pm
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Originally Posted by Jottle View Post

geodon, I've encountered the exact same problem (search for my posts in this thread). I've tried Bob and Oppo's suggestions to disable all motion smoothing, go to 20p excplicit or source direct, but nothing has made the video stuttering and half-frame/whole frame split second flashes go away. I did not try switching to hdmi 2 however. I believe this may be a netflix player issue and not necessarily a defect in the bdp. I don't see this issue with any other media. DVD and blu-ray playback is flawless with no stuttering or flashing frames. Perhaps if I see this same issue on vudu, then I could nail it down to either the player or some sort of incompatibility with my lcd tv. I have a samsung ln40c630 fwiw.

No one else who has experienced this issue and reported it here has found a satisfactory solution so far.

I never had a stuttering issue with vudu. it was only with netflix and the 120 refresh rate tvs.

Jacob
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post #16008 of 25196
12/12/11 at 3:33pm
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Originally Posted by axial99 View Post

Newbie question: I can't quite figure out why the "service" icons (Vudu, Blockbuster, et al) are duplicated under the "Internet" icon. Is there some advantage accessing from the main home screen icon vs. the Internet > ? It doesn't seem like there is any difference in the individual service itself, so ... ?

(fw BDP9x-57-0917)

There may be a time when there are more services available then the HOME MENU can display at any given time, so these services will be hidden unless you go into the SOURCE MENU.
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post #16009 of 25196
12/12/11 at 3:47pm
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Originally Posted by shimonmor View Post

I bought a 2TB Seagate GoFlex Desk drive (model STAC2000605) to use with the OPPO. However, I discovered the USB cable is proprietary (I think) at the drive end. Makes it a pain in the butt if you want to move the drive between the OPPO and the computer because I need to drag the cable back and forth and it's not easy getting to the back of the OPPO unit and the front port is not usable because I have the OPPO in a cabinet which I don't want to leave open.

I searched for replacement cables and I can't find one online. Does anyone know if you can get another cable? I checked the Seagate website and they don't show it. I've attached a photo.

I'm considering returning this drive for one that comes with a standard USB cable at both ends (or USB mini at the drive end). What drives come with normal cables? Thanks.

That's a USB 3 cable with a micro B USB end. Search for Sabrent CB-USB3M USB 3.0 A Male to Micro B USB Male Cable for example.
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post #16010 of 25196
12/12/11 at 4:39pm
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Originally Posted by sukumar View Post

How does it works? I have 4 external hard drives that I want to connect through usb hub. Can I connect usb hub directly to one of two usb ports?

To remove multiple hard drive clutter, does wirless dongle works? Is it fast enough to handle blu-ray? Appreciate to share any model number

I was just responding to your concern about getting to the back of an Oppo in a cabinet to plug/unplug drives: the extension cable simply brings the rear USB port to a remote location, but it has a large and heavy base for the plug so the cable doesn't slide off the surface from the weight of the cable (unlike a conventional USB extension cable).

I think there are previous posts about hubs that may answer your question. IIRC only some hubs work.

From memory, wireless is somewhat limited in bandwidth for Bluray purposes.

Some members successfully use a USB dock to connect a bare SATA HDD: it has the advantage of swapping HDD like cartridges and lower power use, but the disadvantage of having to swap HDD to see the full collection and exposure of the HDD circuitry to static-charged fingers if not careful.
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post #16011 of 25196
12/12/11 at 5:37pm
I own the Oppo now for several months but now I was finally able to solve the severest issue I had in terms of PQ.

I always have spotted massive digital artifacting and macroblocking, espacially in grainy movies or digitally shot, noisy tv shows like Hawaii Five-O. I tried everything without any luck. My Panasonic BDT-210 shows fine grain instead.

Now I know the culprit. Oppo advises to set the Deep Color setting to 36 Bit. This is plain wrong because it causes the artifacting! In fact any Deep Color setting without dithering shows digital artifacting on the Oppo. All settings with dithering show clean grain and no more artifacts.
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post #16012 of 25196
12/12/11 at 5:59pm
^ There is no pat answer to the "best" choice of either Color Space or Deep Color. It is too dependent on details of what your AVR and/or TV does with the video. You just have to try it and see which works best.

36 bit is a reasonable default setting until you have a chance to check what works best. If your AVR/Display can't accept 36 bit, that will automatically be reduced to 30 bit or 24 bit (which is what Deep Color OFF produces).

If 30 bit Dithered or OFF Dithered works better for you then by all means that's the one to use.

If you search for a post by me in this thread citing "Ratatouille", Blu-ray, you'll find one suggested method for deciding which combo of Color Space and Deep Color settings works best.

NOTE: You must have your basic video levels (Brightness, Contrast, Color, Tint, Sharpness) properly set before you can make a useful choice here. With some AVRs/TVs the correct level settings will be different according to your chosen combo of Color Space and Deep Color, so be sure to check that the levels you have set are STILL correct as you change the video format. Ideally, you should have verified that Gamma Correction is set properly as well, but that's tougher.
--Bob
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post #16013 of 25196
12/12/11 at 7:56pm
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Originally Posted by IanD View Post

Some members successfully use a USB dock to connect a bare SATA HDD: it has the advantage of swapping HDD like cartridges and lower power use, but the disadvantage of having to swap HDD to see the full collection and exposure of the HDD circuitry to static-charged fingers if not careful.

There are docks available that take from one to four SATA HDDS. They offer USB-3, eSATA and USB-2 interfaces. Personally I find that USB-3 is more stable and reliable than eSATA at least at my PC, YMMV. The USB-2 port on the player offers hot swapping in the dock, which eSATA does not.
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post #16014 of 25196
12/12/11 at 9:21pm
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Originally Posted by bakerwi View Post

In my opinion and in my setup I think DVD PQ is excellent.

Yessssss it is Very impressive. I'm running my six-hours-out-of-box Oppo 93 through it's initial paces, and wow the video reviews are no joke. It looks incredibly good on the DVDs....

I'm only having one issue with the proceedings so far: It seems the "downconverted" HD audio signals from Blu Ray that are sent out of the optical output (from Dolby HD to Dolby Digital 5.1 and DTS-HD to DTS 5.1 to a lesser degree) aren't as good sounding as the DVD versions are. The downconverted 5.1s are noticeably inferior in sound to DVDs of the same film played back through the Oppo. The downconverted stuff sounds noticeably less dynamic and lifeless, especially the Dolby versions - so in an odd twist it seems that while the Blu Ray gives better picture, the DVD gives better sound out of the optical digital out of the Oppo.

I am using an older processor with no HDMI (I run the HDMI to the TV and the optical out to the processor). Other that this one issue, I'm very impressed with the video end of things in particular, and the multiple formats this machine seems to handle with no issue. I wonder if I'm missing an audio adjustment that's causing my downconverted sound "problem"......

It also seems a well made piece of equipment in general....a simple look yet feels very solid.
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post #16015 of 25196
12/12/11 at 9:35pm
I read that Oppo 93 upconverts video very well for DVD media. What about blu-ray? Does it improve 1080p content in anyway?

Is anybody using video processor like lumagen mini 3d etc with Oppo 93? Do you have any feedback on what is the role of these devices and receivers like Anthem mrx 700 for DVDs and blu-ray? How you decide to set pass through or source direct from one device to other device since every one of them have some video processors?

If you use lumagen, is it recommended to set "source direct" for blu-ray and dvd? Does it mean no effect from oppo 93?
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post #16016 of 25196
12/12/11 at 9:50pm
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Originally Posted by dndphishin View Post


Yessssss it is Very impressive. I'm running my six-hours-out-of-box Oppo 93 through it's initial paces, and wow the video reviews are no joke. It looks incredibly good on the DVDs....

I'm only having one issue with the proceedings so far: It seems the "downconverted" HD audio signals from Blu Ray that are sent out of the optical output (from Dolby HD to Dolby Digital 5.1 and DTS-HD to DTS 5.1 to a lesser degree) aren't as good sounding as the DVD versions are. The downconverted 5.1s are noticeably inferior in sound to DVDs of the same film played back through the Oppo. The downconverted stuff sounds noticeably less dynamic and lifeless, especially the Dolby versions - so in an odd twist it seems that while the Blu Ray gives better picture, the DVD gives better sound out of the optical digital out of the Oppo.

I am using an older processor with no HDMI (I run the HDMI to the TV and the optical out to the processor). Other that this one issue, I'm very impressed with the video end of things in particular, and the multiple formats this machine seems to handle with no issue. I wonder if I'm missing an audio adjustment that's causing my downconverted sound "problem"......

It also seems a well made piece of equipment in general....a simple look yet feels very solid.

Can you use the analogue out?
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post #16017 of 25196
12/12/11 at 9:58pm
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Originally Posted by blairy View Post

Can you use the analogue out?

Not for multichannel - because my pre/pro only has multichannel digital ins and no multichannel analog.

My cable box's 5.1 DD optical audio is better than anything I can get from BR downconverted from the Oppo optical out so far. And it's a bit odd, as everything else out that optical pipe sounds quite good. I figure it's either the downconversion process - or a setting I need to play with.......
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post #16018 of 25196
12/13/11 at 1:19am
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Originally Posted by dndphishin View Post

My cable box's 5.1 DD optical audio is better than anything I can get from BR downconverted from the Oppo optical out so far. And it's a bit odd, as everything else out that optical pipe sounds quite good. I figure it's either the downconversion process - or a setting I need to play with.......

That's strange, because the Oppo should be using the DTS core from DTS-HD MA or the supplementary AC3 track from TrueHD soundtracks, when sent via SPDIF output: there is no "downconversion" occurring, simply sending out the digital "cores" unmolested.

However, if you set the SPDIF output to LPCM, then you will only get a stereo downconversion of the original tracks.

There is a setting for activating secondary audio: when this is active, the primary soundtrack is decoded and mixed with the secondary audio, then either downconverted to stereo (if LPCM is selected for SPDIF) or encoded to DTS (if bitstream is selected for SPDIF).

It is possible that you are losing some audio quality in the DTS re-encoding process if SPDIF is set to bitstream and secondary audio is activated.

You surely would be losing audio quality if downconverting audio to stereo LPCM when LPCM is selected for SPDIF.

I would suggest ensuring Secondary Audio is set to OFF and SPDIF set to bitstream and see if that makes a difference.
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post #16019 of 25196
12/13/11 at 2:19am
I just noticed that Blu-rays backed up to the BDMV folder structure on an external drive now play when you click on the folder that encloses the BDMV files instead of having to click through to the BDMV folder itself. So if the folder structure is My Bluray/BDMV, the movie starts up as soon as you click on 'My Bluray', which I'm sure it never did before. Less clicking is always a good thing:-)
Is this an undocumented Easter egg from the latest firmware?
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post #16020 of 25196
12/13/11 at 2:54am
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

^ There is no pat answer to the "best" choice of either Color Space or Deep Color. It is too dependent on details of what your AVR and/or TV does with the video. You just have to try it and see which works best.

36 bit is a reasonable default setting until you have a chance to check what works best. If your AVR/Display can't accept 36 bit, that will automatically be reduced to 30 bit or 24 bit (which is what Deep Color OFF produces).

If 30 bit Dithered or OFF Dithered works better for you then by all means that's the one to use.

If you search for a post by me in this thread citing "Ratatouille", Blu-ray, you'll find one suggested method for deciding which combo of Color Space and Deep Color settings works best.

NOTE: You must have your basic video levels (Brightness, Contrast, Color, Tint, Sharpness) properly set before you can make a useful choice here. With some AVRs/TVs the correct level settings will be different according to your chosen combo of Color Space and Deep Color, so be sure to check that the levels you have set are STILL correct as you change the video format. Ideally, you should have verified that Gamma Correction is set properly as well, but that's tougher.
--Bob

Thanks for the hints, unfortunately I don't have the Ratatouille BD but I have a demo scene in Rise of the Planet of the Apes where the artifacting is extremely severe. Color Space does not make a difference, I tested all combinations. The thing which makes the difference is Dithering ON/OFF. The result is the same in 30/10/... Bit settings, so the color depth is also not relevant. My TV can accept 36 Bit (it shows me on the info screen).

Also: When I force my HTPC with MPC and ffdshow to disable dithering in the video decoder settings I also do not have any problems. For me it looks like a bug in the Oppo firmware.
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