Official OPPO BDP-93 Owner's Thread - Page 618

It doesn't look like mpo files are supported.

http://wiki.oppodigital.com/index.ph...s_supported.3F

I know... That's why I mentioned I know they're not supported by the Oppo DIRECTLY but someone was talking about encoding them into AVCHD to get them to play on the Oppo, am curious if anyone knows any tricks to get them to play doing something like this.

Go to Mybooklive.com, click on SETTINGS,MEDIA,STATUS and REBUILD.

Are you talking about 3D video or 3D still images?

I think the Oppo will only play standard 2D formats or 3D MVC, so unless you know how to encode to MVC, your options are probably limited to creating a side-by-side mkv video (slideshow).

Unfortunately, side-by-side throws away a lot of visual information, as both views must be fitted into a standard 1920x1080p frame.

Have a look at http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=194 as they discuss 3D technical issues there.

I suppose there is a remote chance the Oppo could be modified via firmware to play mpo and other 3D files, but that probably requires a request via a different thread.

Don't care if it's 3D video or 3D still images as long as I can see them on my projector in 3D. I'll post the question over there but the reason I posted here is I was hoping to catch someone who has a BDP-93 who also figured out a way to get it to play .mpo files INDIRECTLY since the BDP-93 doesn't support .mpos DIRECTLY. The Oppo is the only HDMI 1.4 compliant device I have other than my Epson 6010 projector.

**UPDATE: I posted the question on the 3D Content Tech area and no responses in a day

I have a 1080p HDTV and pretty much only play Blu-Ray discs and Netflix. It's been driving me insane but what are the best video settings when watching?

TV Aspect Ratio [ 4:3 Letterbox | 4:3 Pan & Scan | 16:9 Wide | 16:9 Wide/Auto ]

Output Resolution [ Auto | 1080p | 1080i | 720p | 480p/576p | 480i/576i | Source Direct ]

1080p24 Output [ Auto | On | Off ]

I'd appreciate any advise.

Thanks.

I have a different WD MyBook World Edition network drive that has a built-in Twonky DLNA server. If the MyBookLive is similar, using the WD Discovery software can access the Twonky media server settings to rescan the disc contents or rebuild the database.



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oops, what slimoli said.

Welcome to AVSForum.

Have you checked the manual? It has advice on output resolution and other things.

Some of this depends on your display and how you have it set.

Use Wide/Auto. Has no effect on Blu-ray native titles but will pillarbox 4:3 supplements and some DVD titles. Your display should be set to its 1:1 pixel mapping mode with no underscan, overscan, or aspect ratio changes.

Use 1080p for Blu-ray and DVD.

1080p24 is a matter of personal preference. AUTO is safe. If your display accepts a 24hz signal you can try it off and on to see if it matters to you.

I'll let others comment on best Netflix settings.

-Bill

Start by reading the Manual to get some idea what these settings actually do. Then also glance through the FAQ and Wiki (see links at the top of the first post of this thread) for additional explanation.

There is no substitute for spending some quality time with a good video calibration disc, such as Spears & Munsil, Blu-ray, to check that your choice of settings in the player and the display are working well for you, and to make any necessary adjustments. But what I'm going to do now is give you a STARTING POINT. These are settings you can safely use with any modern, 1080p, HDMI display -- along with a modern, HDMI AVR -- which likely won't be far off from "correct" and will give you a good way to begin.

(Another good disc to get is AIX Audio Calibration, Blu-ray, which you can use to verify your audio setup is working as it is supposed to.)

IN THE DISPLAY

Most modern displays remember settings on a "per input" basis, so you will need to make settings adjustments for the input you are using from the Oppo.

Look for a "picture mode" with a name like Movies or Cinema and set that. If there's more than one setting like that, the one you want is likely the one that seems to produce the darkest and softest picture. It is important to start here as many modern displays make settings adjustments in the background based on the picture mode you choose which can not be completely corrected using the other user settings.

Look for a "color temperature" setting and pick the choice that corresponds to 6500K. If you are lucky, your display's manual will tell you which one that is. If not, look for a choice labeled Warm. Check the owner's thread for your display if there's more than one Warm choice and the Manual doesn't tell you which is which.

Disable the various video "enhancement" features in your display for this input. This would include things like "flesh tone correction", "automatic gain control", "motion smoothing" and their ilk. All of these attempt to hide problems in crappy content and mostly just get in the way when playing good content as from Blu-ray discs.

Look for a setting in your display that allows it to show a 1080p picture all the way out to the edge pixels -- with no pixels lost on the edges.

Finally, be aware that even having done the above, the DEFAULT video levels settings in your display (Brightness, Contrast, Color, Tint, Sharpness, and Gamma) are almost certainly INCORRECT for best quality viewing. They will be CLOSER in the Movies picture mode than in some other choices, but still are likely to be incorrect. You need to use a calibration disc to find the right settings. TV makers do this to make their TVs stand out better under garish store lighting conditions. Contrast (which controls white levels) is almost certainly too high, as is Sharpness (edge enhancement of vertical lines). Gamma (the response curve between black and white) is likely to be too low.

But again, this is just a starting point. NOTE: When it comes times to correct your video levels, do the adjustments IN THE DISPLAY. Not in the player or AVR.

Modern digital Displays are FAR MORE sensitive to correct calibration than older TVs. That is, the difference between "nearly right" and "right" in the combo of video levels settings is likely to be much more dramatic than you are likely use to from older TVs. The point is, time spent getting the video calibration nailed with something like the Spears & Munsil disc will pay off handsomely in improved quality you really can see. Also consider getting a professional in to do a full-blown video calibration adjustment of your set using test tools.

This is EVEN MORE important if you like to view SD content such as SD-DVDs. There is no margin for error when viewing SD content. Any error in the video setup and calibration will likely be noticed. HD content as from Blu-ray discs is more forgiving in this regard. Proper video calibration of your Display is the single most important factor in viewing pleasure.

Also be aware that if you've never used a properly calibrated TV before, the "correct" results are likely to strike you as darker, softer, and less color saturated than you are used to. Jot down your "original" settings, give the "correct" settings some viewing time and periodically switch back to your "originals" to see the difference. In short order you will learn that the "correct" settings REALLY DO look better than what you previously THOUGHT was right.

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IN THE AVR -- (IF RUNNING VIDEO THROUGH THE AVR TO YOUR DISPLAY)

Check to see what settings your AVR has for adjusting video input from the different Source devices and for establishing the video output to your Display. UNLIKE the case with your Display, it is likely that the factory default settings in the AVR are the correct ones to use, at least to start. For settings that adjust how the AVR reacts to video input, leave "AUTO" settings in place. For settings that set the video output to your Display, it is best to pick explicit settings instead of Auto.

So start by setting the AVR's video output to 1080p, YCbCr 4:4:4, and Deep Color 36 Bit. Again, these are starting point settings. You may end up adjusting them later as you start exploring what's really happening with your video.

Alternatively, your AVR may have a "video pass through" setting which acts pretty much like the player was directly connected to the TV for video.

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IN THE OPPO

The Oppo has two HDMI outputs. HDMI 1 is the connector in the middle of the back panel. If only using one cable, use HDMI 1. If using two cables, be sure the video connection to your display is coming from HDMI 1. Use HDMI 2 for audio to your AVR.

In Setup > Video Setup, leave ALL of the Picture Adjustment settings in the Oppo at the factory default (0) values. The Oppo puts out reference level HDMI signals with Picture Adjustment set that way. When it comes time to adjust your video levels with a calibration disc, try to make all the adjustments using ONLY the settings in your Display.

In Setup > Video Setup:

1) Set Resolution 1080p (not Auto and not Source Direct).

2) Set Primary Output HDMI 1

3) Set HDMI Options > HDMI 1 Color Space YCbCr 4:4:4

4) Set HDMI Options > HDMI 1 Deep Color 36 Bit (If your display can't accept that, the HDMI handshake will automatically use Deep Color OFF instead.)

5) Set TV System NTSC in North America or PAL in Europe (Only use Multi if you know your Display accepts both.)

6) Set 1080p/24 Auto (If your display can't accept that, the HDMI handshake will automatically use 1080p/24 OFF instead.)

7) Set 3D Mode Auto (Set TV Size correctly if you have a 3D TV)

8) Set TV Aspect Rato 16:9 Wide/Auto. With this setting, the Oppo will output everything as 16:9 -- with pillar box bars added automatically when playing 4:3 content to pad that 4:3 content out to the wider 16:9 output shape. Your AVR and Display will only see 16:9 video coming from the Oppo and so any "aspect ratio" controls in them should be doing nothing.


In Setup > Audio Format Setup

1) Set Secondary Audio ON

2) Set HDMI Audio LPCM

(The correct settings for SACD Output and HDCD Decoding depend on details of your AVR. The "safe" settings to start are SACD Output PCM and HDCD Decoding OFF.)


In Setup > Audio Processing

1) Set Dynamic Range Control OFF

Other settings can safely be left at factory default values until you discover a reason to change any of them.

Again, the above are not "the right settings". They are "the starting point settings". Use these until you have time to start exploring/tweaking to improve the video and audio of the player when used with your particular AVR and Display.

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To give you an idea on the sort of tweaking I'm talking about, check out this post I just made in the Oppo 95 thread today:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1#post21676091

--Bob

thanks for your input guys. Yeah, my MyBookLive drive has Twonky DLNA server component. I was eventually able to refresh my drive and I can see files now.

BTW, I went to "MyBookLive.com", not sure what I'm seeing there?

I also have an original BDP-83 player (brand-new in-box), purchased over a year ago. I plan to use this in a third bedroom system. Should'nt this player function as good as BDP-93 in regards to streaming files (WMA in my case) from a network drive? Guess firmware would need to be updated?

No, the 93 has significant improvements over the 83 in terms of handling user media files -- either from a directly attached hard drive or streamed over your in house network from your DLNA server.

Depending on the specific file types you would like to play, you may or may not run into these differences. I.e., if you stick just to stuff the 83 does well, then you'll find the 93 does that same stuff equally well.

Check the FAQs for the 83 and the 93 to learn about supported media files on an attached hard drive and supported media files from a DLNA server for each.
--Bob

Occasionally when I boot up my 93, the entire screen is bright green. I can still see the picture, but it's as if the green setting is maxed out. A reboot takes care of it.

Has anyone else experienced this? It's happened 5 or so times since I bought it (day 1 purchase), and I've been current with the firmware updates.

This is a handshake failure and a swapped color space. Simply changing inputs on your AVR or TV should resolve it. Also try setting the player's output to a specific color space instead of "auto", I'd suggest 4:4:4 as a start.

Thanks for the quick reply. Changing inputs is a hassle, but I'll the color space setting a try.

Just a heads up........ I just went to Radio Shack and found that they have the analog SPL meters on clearance for $14.97. I got the display model (none left in stock) discounted further for a whopping price of $10.00. At that price, I figured I could use a spare.

Ghastly Green and Shocking Pink video mean the player and display failed to agree on whether the video data format on the HDMI cable would be RGB or YCbCr. This isn't supposed to happen of course.

Setting explicit data format choices instead of Auto simplifies the handshake. It also may help to let the TV have some time to completely power up before you turn on the OPPO.

And as with any HDMI handshake problem, check that all your HDMI plugs are fully inserted without being tugged in any direction, and consider upgrading all HDMI cables between the player and the display.
--Bob

If an explicit color space setting doesn't solve the issue, then it's likely a failure at the other end of the HDMI chain. The Oppo boots up in RGB, then changes to whatever setting you have specified. Some TVs get confused when this happens and fail to adjust. The order in which you power up the various devices also can effect this. Turning the player on last or turning it on first may also help.

thanks Bob, this is exactly what I wanted to know

GSR...........Sorry for the delayed post but when you say "gone" do you mean that one cannot reinstall an older firmware version?

No firmware rollbacks.


Max

Bob,

Thanks for the Oppo settings. Works great. I actually spent many months calibrating my 2008 Samsung LN40B500 HDTV (it's old lol but I make the most of it). The one thing I had a question on is this 1:1 pixel mapping? I'm not sure how that would work being that I don't use the DVI or PC port, I use the HDMI to get the best picture quality. Can you explain that?

On my Samsung the correct setting is "Size: Screen Fit" under Picture Options. It works with HDMI.

The best way to confirm these things is with a calibration disc that includes an Alignment/Overscan pattern. You can see what all the screen size options do.

-Bill

Thanks.

I know the ISO deletion issue was discussed at length a few weeks ago but I'm going to seriously consider buying a 2nd unit and keep the one I have on the Dec firmware forever just for ISO. Also, as someone else posted before, SACD-ISO looks like it will not happen: Bummer.

So from reading about 3 pages back, I'm not the only one that is having problems getting lady and the tramp blu ray to load? Locks up to a black screen for me. I have the latest firmware.

No, I had the exact same problem. My earlier post included instructions I found to make it play (clearing memory).

Keep in mind that the moment the current beta FW is made official, your chances of getting a player directly from OPPO will be over. Other dealers like Amazon, may still have them in stock, but it might be a gamble.

I could be wrong, but I bet you could still load an older firmware and overwrite the no-ISO firmware.

But eventually other features/fixes will make a firmware update necessary to make newer titles play.

Personally, I'm not married to the whole need to watch via ISO. I'll upgrade when I have to.

Oppo is aware of the problem and they are working on it. I've not heard an ETA for the fix.
--Bob

No, the contract with Netflix required that firmware rollbacks be prohibited, much the same as is true on the PS3.
--Bob