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post #1891 of 25204
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post
M2TS files will work as long as the DLNA server allows for this file to playback.

AVCHD as AVCHD will not work ever over DLNA. The best solution you have is to load the individual M2TS files in the BDMV/STREAM folder. The first 00000.m2ts will be the main feature.
Easiest would be to convert my AVCHD to the most common and convenient video format that I can play on DLNA, preferably HD. What do you recommend I convert to for streaming to the Oppo?
post #1892 of 25204
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Originally Posted by Audiodork View Post
I would not Return it. I am sure it is frustrating, but we are still in Pre Release. These issues that are being experienced are going to be resolved and thankfully it is not your only BDP.
Cheers,
AD
AD,

+1. Since these are pre-lease players I am willing to ride out some of the minor annoyances I have come across knowing that I can return the player up to 30 days post general release whenever that day will come.


Willie
post #1893 of 25204
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Originally Posted by DouglasCleary View Post

So far I cannot play music from Droid phone connected by USB.

I have my Droid Incredible connected to the Oppo via USB and it works. I had to pull down the top menu and check "Mount as a drive" when I plugged it in vs. "Charge Only".

So far I can navigate through the folders, view my images, play my .mp3 files as well as my downloaded podcasts. Very cool!




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post #1894 of 25204
I just noticed with my External USB attached HDD attached to the Oppo 93, the list of picture folders/files and movies are not in alphabetical order. I hope there is a firmware fix to better manager your file directories. Has anyone else experienced this?

Sorry if this is a repeat of an existing known bug.
post #1895 of 25204
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Originally Posted by winkyyee View Post

I just noticed with my External USB attached HDD attached to the Oppo 93, the list of picture folders/files and movies are not in alphabetical order. I hope there is a firmware fix to better manager your file directories. Has anyone else experienced this?

Sorry if this is a repeat of an existing known bug.

i agree. the file browser leaves a LOT to be desired...there are basically no options on how to view it...its oppos default and thats it...i hope they add some options for this.
post #1896 of 25204
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Originally Posted by smurraybhm View Post

You were part of the EAP program for the 83? As an early purchaser it had a number of issues that had to be addresssed as well before it's release. A poll like this is penalizing Oppo for providing some of us the opportunity to help them work out the bugs so to speak prior to release to the public. It will serve to only misinform those considering this player - not everyone understands how Oppo works - just read this thread.

What other company let's a/v freaks like us have input as they work to get a/v equipment ready for sale to the public? If you have an issue follow the guidelines you agreed to when given the opportunity to buy the player. If the player is released to the public and has issues then they should be addressed then. Just my two cents. By the way - Pioneer Elite SC-07 - no dropouts

No, I wasn't as I didn't even know about Oppo until the beginning of this year and then nabbed one. I'm excited to be part of it on the 93. I'm really just trying to help so Oppo has a place to see which receivers tend to have these audio issues since the ones they have don't seem to reproduce this issue inhouse and their response to me is that they don't see this problem. I love the product and am just trying to find a way to identify these issues to specific AVRs is all. I can see how some may look at it that way, but I think those folks are going to see it that way no matter what, just read this thread.

By the way, it's not really an audio drop out. I've really never had audio dropout issues with the Oppo players which do happen with my LG BD390. This is a specific cut off at the very beginning of a title, chapter, etc. that starts late after the video. Usually about 1.5-2 seconds after the video starts. So I don't hear the 20th Century Fox theme's opening drums when the feature begins. Once the audio kicks in, I can hit the previous chapter and start it again and it then it plays from the start.

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Originally Posted by bakerwi View Post

AYColumbia,

I'm not sure if a poll at this time is warranted since these are "pre-release" units and a future firmware will probably remedy this problem prior to general release. A poll may only serve to confuse rather than inform. I think this forum is doing a nice job of communicating issues to both the thread base and Oppo.

Just my $.02.


Willie

No problem, I understand. The only reason is because the issue exists on the 83 and was never fixed. Assuming it can be fixed as it may legitimately be an AVR issue.
post #1897 of 25204
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

With the current firmware, no. AVCHD us not working with NTFS drives at the moment, so you have to manually load the m2ts.

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Originally Posted by dtrell View Post

as has already been answered in this thread many times, you have to place the BDMV folder in a folder called "AVCHD" and it will play...just NOT with the current 1108 firmware as for some reason oppo broke it in this release. supposedly it was working in previous betas. I am hoping that this will be fixed in the very next release.

I hope that Oppo solves this problem ASAP and removes the restriction of having the folder named as "AVCHD"
post #1898 of 25204
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Originally Posted by TreyS View Post

I have my Droid Incredible connected to the Oppo via USB and it works. I had to pull down the top menu and check "Mount as a drive" when I plugged it in vs. "Charge Only".

So far I can navigate through the folders, view my images, play my .mp3 files as well as my downloaded podcasts. Very cool!




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That is the way it usually works with the PS3. With the Oppo the Droid goes into some debug mode and I never get to the mount stage.
post #1899 of 25204
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Originally Posted by bharath23 View Post

I hope that Oppo solves this problem ASAP and removes the restriction of having the folder named as "AVCHD"

I thought the AVCHD folder name was part of the spec. You need someone of telling if this subdirectory is meant to be AVCHD or just some assortment of files.

-Bill
post #1900 of 25204
Initially I was able to successfully connect (and utilize) a G-Tech 750GB external hard drive (NTFS format), via eSATA, to my Oppo BDP-93. At the time of this initial successful connection, the external hard drive had only a few files on it.

I subsequently added several hundred files to the subject hard drive and reconnected the drive to the Oppo. Unfortunately the Oppo no longer detected the subject drive when it contained several hundred files.

Do anyone have any thoughts or observations on this behavior?
post #1901 of 25204
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Originally Posted by DouglasCleary View Post

That is the way it usually works with the PS3. With the Oppo the Droid goes into some debug mode and I never get to the mount stage.


Mine is working. I have the phone plugged into the USB extender cable that came with the 93 and that is plugged into the back of the 93. I don't use the front USB port since I have toddlers and they will break it off. Also, my Incredible is running firmware 2.2 (froyo).

How is yours connected?
post #1902 of 25204
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Originally Posted by winkyyee View Post

I just noticed with my External USB attached HDD attached to the Oppo 93, the list of picture folders/files and movies are not in alphabetical order. I hope there is a firmware fix to better manager your file directories. Has anyone else experienced this?

Sorry if this is a repeat of an existing known bug.


Did Oppo indicate they intend to change/fix this in s future firmware when you emailed them?
post #1903 of 25204
What is the time frame that I can purchase an extended warranty for my 93? How many of you have purchased an extended warranty from Oppo?

Thanks!
post #1904 of 25204
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Originally Posted by TreyS View Post

Mine is working. I have the phone plugged into the USB extender cable that came with the 93 and that is plugged into the back of the 93. I don't use the front USB port since I have toddlers and they will break it off. Also, my Incredible is running firmware 2.2 (froyo).

How is yours connected?

USB to the front. I have original Droid running 2.2

I'll try the extender.
post #1905 of 25204
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Originally Posted by DouglasCleary View Post

That is the way it usually works with the PS3. With the Oppo the Droid goes into some debug mode and I never get to the mount stage.

Make sure that on your phone under Settings->Applications->Development USB debugging is turned off (probably good to have all options under it turned off).
post #1906 of 25204
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Originally Posted by Grampa View Post

You could well be right. The funny thing is that I have no recollection of ripping this CD at all. I know I must have done it because it is a CD I own, and not a very common one at that ("The New Jazz Divas," something I got as a thank you for contributing to my local public radio station). I'm guessing that I had just installed my new 2TB WD network drive, and wanted to throw something on it to test it. And because 2TB seemed limitless to me at the time, I chose WMA Lossless. However, I don't see anything on the file properties tab to confirm that format.

I believe that the WD network drive comes with a Twonky Media Server already installed.

If you want to know for sure, you could download the VLC media player which is a free download and will play most all media types. If you have it, then you can just hover your mouse over a file and it will give you all the information about that file, including the codec, bit rate and bit depth as well as indicating whether it is lossy and what quality or lossless.
post #1907 of 25204
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Originally Posted by dtrell View Post

i agree. the file browser leaves a LOT to be desired...there are basically no options on how to view it...its oppos default and thats it...i hope they add some options for this.

+1.

Another user here that hopes Oppo improves their rudimentary file browser. In fact I've now started contemplating returning the Oppo and going the NMT player + DVDO duo route (don't know why I didn't consider it earlier). A lot more money, but then it gives a lot more options too.
post #1908 of 25204
Watched second NFlix streaming HD movie, and it went well, with good PQ. Had a lockup though, and it took the player about 30 seconds to turn itself off, after a power button push. I loaded Netflix, realized Source Direct was still on, so I hit return and left Netflix. Cut 1080p on, then clicked the Netflix icon. Player froze on the Oppo screen.
post #1909 of 25204
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

I thought the AVCHD folder name was part of the spec. You need someone of telling if this subdirectory is meant to be AVCHD or just some assortment of files.

-Bill

There are two ways one can achieve this. First is the trivial way, for example if the user hits the play button on the folder it tries to play it, if the internal directory structure doesnt match any it can throw a error message or navigate inside the folder. The second way would be to automatically determine if the directory structure matches a specific kind of disc structure and then play it else traverse inside, a second remote key could be used if the user just wants to navigate into the directory.

When I back up my discs I keep the named as what the title is. Just to play a title would require me to connect my drive to a computer rename the title and then connect the drive to player to play it. This is just a usability issue, which if solved would make it easier for the users.
post #1910 of 25204
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Originally Posted by Grampa View Post

I just logged into the WD drive, and it is a Twonky server. First time I fired up the Oppo, it found the server and the music and movies on it -- I didn't even know it had a server (I had loaded a few media files into the /music and /video folders, but never played with it. So at this point, it seems to work fine. And yes, my computers do go into suspend mode (saves a little energy). So maybe I'll just try loading a few more files on and see how it goes. The music is filtered by artist, album, track, etc., so it looks pretty usable to me.

I am new to using a media server and network and recently started using the JRiver Media Server. I finally was able to get the Oppo to see the server and was able to play some of my WMA music files, but I noticed that it transcodes them to MP3 over the network. Do all servers do this or can you select what file format you want audio files to be sent over your network? In my opinion, the transcoded WMA files did not sound as good as the same files played directly from the computer.
post #1911 of 25204
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Originally Posted by sbarnhar View Post

Makaveli Tha Don,

I haven't been able to find discrete codes for resolution. Nor have I found them for aspect or picture mode (mode 1/2/3). Also for getting to different parts of the streaming/DLNA capabilities. All of these would be extremely helpful in using the 93 for all the different types of media it can play.

Oppo, please add discrete codes for all the things listed above - it will make your user's lives so much better! Especially for those of us whose spouse needs the simplicity a Harmony brings to the equation!

Scott,

I have the 83, not the 93, and we don't really use the network streaming much -- we have an AppleTV (and I just convert things we want to stream from the Mac to a format it can use), and we put digital files on a USB that anyone in the family can plug into the front and access. Obviously, the 83 doesn't have Netflix/Blockbuster streaming, so I can't help you there!

For Harmony use, I just use the soft button fields at the top. One of mine is labeled Blu-Ray Zoom for the Blu-Ray activity, and they all know to press that one until they get the size screen they want to watch. For resolution, I just leave the output always set to 1080p with 24fps enabled (not for DVD, although the 93 can't do that yet anyway). That way, no matter what the source, the output resolution is always as high as possible. This works great for all DVDs, BDs, and digital files I have tried. Sometimes the Oppo doesn't detect the aspect properly, but one button cycles through those just fine.

None of this is to say I wouldn't mind discrete codes, but I've learned to work around the ones that aren't present in a way that makes it easy on the family.
post #1912 of 25204
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Originally Posted by TreyS View Post

I can confirm Pandora works on the 93........using PlayOn as a dlna server. The UI needs some getting used to though. Watching hulu right now too. Free 14 day trial.

Thanks for checking that out!
post #1913 of 25204
Expendables Redbox rental played without error last night via HDMI 1 (bitstreaming) to my Pioneer SC-05, which is connected to a Pioneer PRO-111FD. I experimented with 1080p (audio lost sync with video) and source direct (all went well). With all my fiddling with navigation (pausing, rewinding, advancing), I lost audio once. Rebooting the receiver brought it back. Haven't tried any SACDs or DVD-As yet.
post #1914 of 25204
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Originally Posted by Redbeemer View Post

I am new to using a media server and network and recently started using the JRiver Media Server. I finally was able to get the Oppo to see the server and was able to play some of my WMA music files, but I noticed that it transcodes them to MP3 over the network. Do all servers do this or can you select what file format you want audio files to be sent over your network? In my opinion, the transcoded WMA files did not sound as good as the same files played directly from the computer.

WMA lossless lossy is supported by the player and does not require transcoding, so this is a setup issue with your server.

-Bill
post #1915 of 25204
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Originally Posted by bharath23 View Post

There are two ways one can achieve this. First is the trivial way, for example if the user hits the play button on the folder it tries to play it, if the internal directory structure doesnt match any it can throw a error message or navigate inside the folder. The second way would be to automatically determine if the directory structure matches a specific kind of disc structure and then play it else traverse inside, a second remote key could be used if the user just wants to navigate into the directory.

When I back up my discs I keep the named as what the title is. Just to play a title would require me to connect my drive to a computer rename the title and then connect the drive to player to play it. This is just a usability issue, which if solved would make it easier for the users.

Or we could stick with the spec and you could put your AVCHD folders in subdirectories named for the title.

-Bill
post #1916 of 25204
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

Or we could stick with the spec and you could put your AVCHD folders in subdirectories named for the title.

-Bill

If we had other players which did the parsing of the tree to detect the content, this would break the players that did things right. AFAIK the spec is not a published standard. It is something that Oppo or other players adopt to make their implementation easier. At the end of the day I advocate usability, which I think is the difference between something being good or great. Implementing the first method is trivial, it just exercises the "AVCHD" code path of the firmware when a key is pressed with a folder selected.
post #1917 of 25204
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

WMA lossless lossy is supported by the player and does not require transcoding, so this is a setup issue with your server.

-Bill

Bill: That is the way the media player came "out of the box'. I did not set it up to transcode the WMA's to Mp3, it just did that. However, as you may recall, apparently there is an issue with the Oppo not being able to play WMA's (confirmed by Oppo to me) at the moment, so I guess it would have to transcode these files to something the 93 can currently play. Hopefully, this issue will be shortly rectified and we can play 'em the way they come off the HD.
post #1918 of 25204
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Originally Posted by Redbeemer View Post

Bill: That is the way the media player came "out of the box'. I did not set it up to transcode the WMA's to Mp3, it just did that. However, as you may recall, apparently there is an issue with the Oppo not being able to play WMA's (confirmed by Oppo to me) at the moment, so I guess it would have to transcode these files to something the 93 can currently play. Hopefully, this issue will be shortly rectified and we can play 'em the way they come off the HD.

I suspect rectification will have to be on the server end. You might pursue this on the server support forums, or whatever they have.

I play WMA locally and over DLNA now. They are not transcoded to MP3. I'm using Twonky but I believe other servers work as well.

Standard WMA lossy only, not Pro, Lossless, or Voice.

-Bill
post #1919 of 25204
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

I'd expect your Sammy to play nice with explicit 4:4:4 and 36 bit deep color. You'll likely not see much, if any, difference. Check the dedicated threads for that display, but I'm pretty sure Sammy uses 4:4:4 for processing. If you set the Oppo to "auto" it will send 4:4:4.

I have been trying to find out if my sony 55NX810 did 36bit deep color. I have posted in the forum for that tv but no response. Is there any other way that you all would recommend to me to find out if it did it. I gues I could just turn it on and see right?

I bought an extended warranty. I havent heard of others doing the same.
post #1920 of 25204
I contacted Oppo regarding the playback for backed up Blu-ray. They officially dont support the playback of the backups. But since they support AVCHD which requires the BDMV directory be nested inside "AVCHD" directory. I will not complain about usability now. Luckily in this world there exists symlinks. I guess I will just use symlinks to create a directory structure that works with Oppo and other players.
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