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post #19051 of 25202
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Originally Posted by Don Landis View Post

Now here's a question for the experts- Would it be possible for the BD manufacturers to include code on all new disks that would load upon insertion that could brick the OPPO player if this iso code were present? I would imagine there would be severe liability but from a technical limitation, is this possible? They would only need code for one player since OPPO was the only one to offer this feature.

For newer players it could be required, I suppose, as American studios (movie/music) have a very long history of going out of their way to alienate consumers, but there are various consumer laws around the world that they have to work around so I do not think it will be mandated.

In any case, a "bricking" of a player will not be permanent but possibly requiring sending the player to a service center for "unbricking", similar to a "bricked" mobile phone (i.e. failing to supply a security code). More likely a phone call to get a "unbrick" code will suffice. The last is what Microsoft is doing for their operating system and I've used it as I on occasions to reinstall the OS.
post #19052 of 25202
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Originally Posted by Ornette View Post

With the USB file, I was asked seperately to confirm the installation of
- main firmware
- firmware file for MCU
- firmware file for BD loader

With the online upgrade, there was only one confirmation.

Look for yourself. The newest download contains only the main FW file. Of course you can also just check the player's setup to see what revision is installed. Here is a link for the current FW file: http://oppodigital-web.s3.amazonaws....9x-65-0302.zip
post #19053 of 25202
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Originally Posted by Ornette View Post

With the USB file, I was asked seperately to confirm the installation of
- main firmware
- firmware file for MCU
- firmware file for BD loader

With the online upgrade, there was only one confirmation.

For the Beta version for the EU version I had the files above, but for the official release there was only main firmware.

On http://www.oppo-bluray.co.uk/custome...ices/firmware/ there is a requirement of checking the loader version, though. The Beta page is gone.
post #19054 of 25202
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Originally Posted by saeyedoc View Post

Is this strange? I got my 93 about a month ago. I upgraded the firmware using the network about two weeks ago, prior to the announcement of the latest upgrade. I did this when the firmware notification alerted me that I didn't have the most recent firmware.
I went in to upgrade again earlier this week after the announcement, the firmware upgrade status showed that I was already current, it shows I'm on 65-0302. How is this possible?

Yes, that's strange. Is it possible your cat has been walking on the remote? It takes just one incautious Enter to update the firmware when prompted.

-Bill
post #19055 of 25202
Anybody ever seen this before?
Last night I loaded a commercial DVD (WKRP Season 1, Disc 2) and the picture (on my 16:9 Panny Plasma) was "horizontally squeezed" - i.e. too thin. Basically it was the reverse effect of the anamorphic stretch that typically has to happen on a 16:9 encoded DVD.
This is a 4:3 disc.
I could only rectify this by setting the output to Wide instead of Wide/Auto.
However, the problem went away on reboot of the player and I haven't seen it since (which I'm happy about)... Anybody else get their BDP-93 stuck in this mode before, and know how (and how not to do it, and how to recover other than reboot?)
post #19056 of 25202
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Originally Posted by allsop4now View Post

For the Beta version for the EU version I had the files above, but for the official release there was only main firmware.

On http://www.oppo-bluray.co.uk/custome...ices/firmware/ there is a requirement of checking the loader version, though. The Beta page is gone.

Odd, i used that file and it has 5 files inside the UPG folder.
post #19057 of 25202
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post


Yes, that's strange. Is it possible your cat has been walking on the remote? It takes just one incautious Enter to update the firmware when prompted.

-Bill

No cat, maybe one of the dogs?
post #19058 of 25202
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Originally Posted by Mike12345678 View Post

Odd, i used that file and it has 5 files inside the UPG folder.

Checked the folder for the Beta version, and there is five files inside the UPG folder (for the EU version BDP9xEU-64-0119B_USB_Update) named:

BDP9XEU.bin
BDP9XEU.sign
DVD460.bin
MCU93.bin
MCU95.bin

While the 65-0302 EU version have two files named:

BDP9XEU.bin
BDP9XEU.sign
post #19059 of 25202
I mounted the ISO using virtual clone drive then used ANYDVD with the new "Speed Menu Feature" enabled and re-ripped the mounted ISO folders to an AVCHD folder.

I am running the last firmware prior to the ISO support being removed and it played without a hitch. I couldn't get it to do anything prior to using the workaround explained above. I am also having the same problem with Footloose so I will do the same with it. I will rip that one without the "Speed Menu Feature" enabled to see if it will play that way and will report back.

****UPDATED*****
I also ripped another ISO of HUGO with the "Speed Menu" enabled and that ISO plays fine!

EJ
post #19060 of 25202
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Originally Posted by magic144 View Post

Anybody ever seen this before?
Last night I loaded a commercial DVD (WKRP Season 1, Disc 2) and the picture (on my 16:9 Panny Plasma) was "horizontally squeezed" - i.e. too thin. Basically it was the reverse effect of the anamorphic stretch that typically has to happen on a 16:9 encoded DVD.
This is a 4:3 disc.
I could only rectify this by setting the output to Wide instead of Wide/Auto.
However, the problem went away on reboot of the player and I haven't seen it since (which I'm happy about)... Anybody else get their BDP-93 stuck in this mode before, and know how (and how not to do it, and how to recover other than reboot?)

It sounds like the player and display had a disagreement about who handles the aspect ratio. Was this at 1080p, not Source Direct?

If it happens again try to invoke a new handshake by switching the display to some other input and back again.

As a general rule use whatever mode your display has for 1:1 pixel mapping, no overscan or aspect control.

-Bill
post #19061 of 25202
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Originally Posted by allsop4now View Post

Checked the folder for the Beta version, and there is five files inside the UPG folder (for the EU version BDP9xEU-64-0119B_USB_Update) named:

BDP9XEU.bin
BDP9XEU.sign
DVD460.bin
MCU93.bin
MCU95.bin

While the 65-0302 EU version have two files named:

BDP9XEU.bin
BDP9XEU.sign

The BDP9xEU-65-0302_USB.zip download from the Oppo UK page has the 5 files.
post #19062 of 25202
This is a great player but I'm not happy at all with the picture quality of netflix streaming.It's like the textures get soft and then sharp back and forth,almost like my internet connection is getting weak then strong at a fast rate.It doesn't look nearly as good as my 360 or PS3.Anyone else unhappy with the streaming?
post #19063 of 25202
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Originally Posted by Ornette View Post

The BDP9xEU-65-0302_USB.zip download from the Oppo UK page has the 5 files.

Not the one I downloaded on 2012-03-08 20:16 with size 59104 KB, though.
post #19064 of 25202
@wmcclain - thanks for the reply.
The player is set to 1080p.
(I *think* I had to change it - back to 1080p - yesterday since it had reverted to Auto with the newest firmware update I performed via USB). I've never used Source Direct.

I'll post any more info if I see it again.
post #19065 of 25202
Have you upgraded to the new firmware (the one with .iso functionality disabled)?
post #19066 of 25202
@Theresa - not sure who your Q is directed at.
I'm using BDP9x-65-0302, the latest official release. Before that I was on the non-ISO beta. I needed to update because a BBC BluRay I own had video glitches during playback on the previous official FW release (that the player came with).
post #19067 of 25202
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Originally Posted by slimoli View Post

The Oppo 93/95 with the December firmware (or older) is the only game in town if ISO is your thing. No other player can play 2D or 3D Bluray ISO with full menus and all the HD audio. I have a feeling it will sell for more than $1000.00 on Ebay a year from now.

Worried about new titles not playing ? The best choice, IMO, is to buy a new BD player for less than 200 bucks , with better streaming options and Bluray picture as good as the Oppo. The Panasonic BDT-320 at 180 bucks is a great option and has Amazon and a better Netflix .

The first page of this thread has a list of firmware update links. You should go there and download a copy of the December firmware for your OPPO before they realize it and pull it down. Nice to have a backup copy of that iso playing firmware. right?
post #19068 of 25202
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Originally Posted by magic144 View Post

@Theresa - not sure who your Q is directed at.
I'm using BDP9x-65-0302, the latest official release. Before that I was on the non-ISO beta. I needed to update because a BBC BluRay I own had video glitches during playback on the previous official FW release (that the player came with).

Ok.

post #19069 of 25202
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Originally Posted by corey99699 View Post

This is a great player but I'm not happy at all with the picture quality of netflix streaming.It's like the textures get soft and then sharp back and forth,almost like my internet connection is getting weak then strong at a fast rate.It doesn't look nearly as good as my 360 or PS3. Anyone else unhappy with the streaming?

Yes, mine is the same way. Of my equipment, my TV, PS3, Xbox 360, & Oppo all have Netflix and are connected to the same ethernet switch but the Oppo seems to be getting less bandwidth than the others. I always just use the one built into my TV since there's no need to turn on another device.
post #19070 of 25202
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Originally Posted by Manic_D View Post

Yes, mine is the same way. Of my equipment, my TV, PS3, Xbox 360, & Oppo all have Netflix and are connected to the same ethernet switch but the Oppo seems to be getting less bandwidth than the others. I always just use the one built into my TV since there's no need to turn on another device.

are you using an lcd with the 120 refresh rate?

Jacob
post #19071 of 25202
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Originally Posted by Don Landis View Post


The first page of this thread has a list of firmware update links. You should go there and download a copy of the December firmware for your OPPO before they realize it and pull it down. Nice to have a backup copy of that iso playing firmware. right?

Done that already ,thanks.
post #19072 of 25202
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Originally Posted by allsop4now View Post

Not the one I downloaded on 2012-03-08 20:16 with size 59104 KB, though.

I'm not sure why Oppo UK decided to change it, but the USB download of the 0302 EU firmware for the 93 and the 95 now includes all 3 parts of the firmware: Main, Loader, and Sub/MCU.

Only the Main firmware is new. If you do a network update of the EU firmware only the Main firmware gets installed if the other two parts are already up to date. If you do a USB install, all 3 parts get installed.

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The USB download of the US version of the 0302 firmware continues to have just the new, Main firmware portion.

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In Setup > Device Setup > Firmware Information you will find the version numbers of all 3 parts of the firmware as currently installed in your player. You can compare those against the version numbers listed on the Oppo Digital or Oppo UK firmware page for your US or EU version player to confirm all 3 parts are indeed up to date.
--Bob
post #19073 of 25202
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Originally Posted by Jacob305 View Post

are you using an lcd with the 120 refresh rate?

Jacob

Mine's a plasma @ 60 Hz.
post #19074 of 25202
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Originally Posted by corey99699 View Post

This is a great player but I'm not happy at all with the picture quality of netflix streaming.It's like the textures get soft and then sharp back and forth,almost like my internet connection is getting weak then strong at a fast rate.It doesn't look nearly as good as my 360 or PS3.Anyone else unhappy with the streaming?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Manic_D View Post

Yes, mine is the same way. Of my equipment, my TV, PS3, Xbox 360, & Oppo all have Netflix and are connected to the same ethernet switch but the Oppo seems to be getting less bandwidth than the others. I always just use the one built into my TV since there's no need to turn on another device.

There are important fixes for Netflix upscaling in the just-released, 0302 firmware. Go to Setup > Device Setup > Firmware Information and confirm that your Main firmware version number ends with 0302.

To take advantage of this improved video for Netflix you must use the HDMI 1 output for video (the HDMI socket towards the middle of the back panel) and you must also set Setup > Video Setup > Primary Output to HDMI 1.

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If that doesn't do it for you the next step is to check your networking. If you can connect via Ethernet instead of Wifi do that. Lot's of things can affect the speed of a Wifi connection.

In the Vudu app, under the My Vudu tab, you'll find a Network Speed Test. As I recall you can get to that even if you have not already created a Vudu account, but if you need to create a Vudu account you might as well do so -- it doesn't cost anything unless you actually buy or rent something from them.

The Network Speed Test is not a definitive test of your speed to the Netflix servers since the internet path to them will be different than the path to the Vudu servers, but it is still a good indication of your actual streaming throughput. You may discover there's something in your network setup, for example, which is unexpectedly reducing your network speed to the Oppo.

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If firmware and network speed are both good and you still have problems, check to make sure you don't have "motion smoothing" active in your display -- the actual name used will be a marketing name which differs from brand to brand but basically it has to do with the TV creating intermediate video frames. The compression scheme used by Netflix screws up such TV schemes. Turn it off in the TV at least while viewing Netflix.

And finally, be aware that Netflix content is all over the map in terms of quality, and even for their better quality content you will have problems if you happen to catch them at a time when the server they've connected you to is too busy. So check across a few different titles, and at a few different times of day, to see if the problem is associated with specific titles or viewing times. If you let Oppo know about specific titles that are coming in poorly, they too can check to see if they can reproduce the problem.

Note also that your Netflix account (see their web site) has a new setting which limits the maximum bit rate they send you -- for folks worried about exceeding their monthly internet service limit. Check that this is set to the "best" video setting.
--Bob
post #19075 of 25202
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Originally Posted by saeyedoc View Post

Is this strange? I got my 93 about a month ago. I upgraded the firmware using the network about two weeks ago, prior to the announcement of the latest upgrade. I did this when the firmware notification alerted me that I didn't have the most recent firmware.
I went in to upgrade again earlier this week after the announcement, the firmware upgrade status showed that I was already current, it shows I'm on 65-0302. How is this possible?

If Setup > Device Setup > Firmware Information says you have the 0302 "Main" firmware already installed, then someone else in your house must have accepted the additional network update when it was offered.
--Bob
post #19076 of 25202
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Originally Posted by counsil View Post

I reflashed the firmware and retested the same 720p mkv's. They all played at 1080p/24. I did end out finding a 720p mkv file that played at 1080p/60 though.

Why do some 720p mkv files play at 1080p/24 and others at 1080p/60?

I have not retested any ISO's. I can only assume they will no longer play and/or be recognized. I'll attach my hard drive later to test that.

You'll need to check with Oppo on the MKV files that are producing the odd result so they can see what's up with them.
--Bob
post #19077 of 25202
I have problem with my 3TB HDD, i tryed with set separate to 2TB and 1TB via MBR but not works... My old 1TB HDD works withno problem. I know thats 3TB HDD is not from OPPO supported but its must be some way how to get work. I have 3TB WD external HDD. Thanks for any advice.
post #19078 of 25202
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Originally Posted by IanD View Post

I'm all for making things simpler, but you really need to ask yourself whether the effort in getting all your backups accessible at the same time, with the attendant power usage and wear & tear on multiple HDD running simultaneously for hours is worth it, considering you can only watch 1 file at a time.
. . .
Consequently the only backup solutions are RAID striping or simply duplicating each HDD 1-for-1. In compliance with the above method of viewing, 1-for-1 duplication tends to be easier, if a little more manually intensive: I'm not sure it is more expensive than RAID.

Have you considered unRAID? It provides parity (without striping) and spins up only the drive(s) necessary to access the file(s) you access; it spins them down when done. Array expansion is easy, too. You'll have to add your own DLNA server. (Of course ISOs are no-go over the network.)
post #19079 of 25202
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

I can't speak for all the devices I mentioned, but looking at the specifications for the Asus O!Play BDS-700 it clearly states:

Is that actually available for sale anywhere? Google comes up empty for the US.
post #19080 of 25202
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Originally Posted by lsarver View Post

Is that actually available for sale anywhere? Google comes up empty for the US.

Available from Ebay only and ,as far as I know, will never reach our shores officially.
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